Gaming Forums => Nintendo Gaming => Topic started by: ECubed4 on February 16, 2003, 07:59:56 AM
Title: Contra: Shattered Soldier ported over to GameCube
Post by: ECubed4 on February 16, 2003, 07:59:56 AM
Hey guys, I was browsing the web looking at NGC news and found this at www.ningc.com. They posted that Konami has decided to port the game over to GameCube, but there isn't any news on new levels or enhanced graphics. The release date is mid-2003. Sounds great to me, I have always loved the Contra series. I have also experienced the title on PS2, and the game was great with a friend by your side. I do hope for new levels, but I bet that is doubtful with the port. But, who knows? What do you all think?
P.S. This is my first post, just wanted to say "hey" to everyone.
Note from WindyMan: This "news story" is most likely to be fake. Please refer to my post further below and remember, it isn't news until you see it on Planet GameCube!
Title: Contra: Shattered Soldier ported over to GameCube
Post by: Sean on February 16, 2003, 08:02:50 AM
I read about this a bit ago! A friend sent me the link. I really hope this happens--I've played it out the wazoo on the PS2, and it's an absolute blast (no pun intended). Rejoice!
Title: Contra: Shattered Soldier ported over to GameCube
Post by: TheResidentEvil on February 16, 2003, 08:09:57 AM
Sweet. But Konami should be ass raped for going to ps2 first. I hate companies that abandon the consoles that started them because they think they'll get more money. By the way, my ps2 wont play this, in fact the stupid piece of crap broke, so did bnoth my friend's. Sad.
Title: Contra: Shattered Soldier ported over to GameCube
Post by: JP on February 16, 2003, 08:15:38 AM
Now, correct me if I'm mistaken, but I thought this game got bad reviews and that it was not that good. I loved the old Contra on NES because so few games focus on co-op play. But if this one sucks, I couldn't care less that they ported it over to us.
Title: Contra: Shattered Soldier ported over to GameCube
Post by: Sean on February 16, 2003, 08:19:37 AM
Most reviews from IGN to Gamespot, etc. were really, really quite good, as I recall. Rest assured--it's as good a Contra game as we could wish for in these anti-2-D days. I love it.
Title: Contra: Shattered Soldier ported over to GameCube
Post by: Sir Daniel Fortesque on February 16, 2003, 08:29:15 AM
Don't think for a second that Konami is starting already to support the Gamecube, this is merely because Contra didn't sell well on the PS2. How come they never gave us Silent Hill or MGS?
Title: Contra: Shattered Soldier ported over to GameCube
Post by: Biohazard on February 16, 2003, 12:24:40 PM
"Don't think for a second that Konami is starting already to support the Gamecube, this is merely because Contra didn't sell well on the PS2. How come they never gave us Silent Hill or MGS?"
Always got something to say, geeze Nintendo fans are never happy. Accept the fact that Konami is willing to give the Gamecube a chance...don't purchase this port? Then forget future titles...I wouldn't mind a Silent Hill port or even MGS...oh it's not exclusive...get real.
Title: Contra: Shattered Soldier ported over to GameCube
Post by: WesDawg on February 16, 2003, 12:42:03 PM
The GBA Contra got raped by the critics. They hated it. I think the PS2 one is pretty well liked.
Title: Contra: Shattered Soldier ported over to GameCube
Post by: draft on February 16, 2003, 12:46:33 PM
the PS2 contra got fair reviews. most people pointed out its difficult on the level of "oops, i smashed all my controllers." of course, thats the way contra should be
Title: Contra: Shattered Soldier ported over to GameCube
Post by: willys85 on February 16, 2003, 01:14:43 PM
The Game is good, but if Konami wants to sell games in the Cube they need to bring just 3 titles: Metal Gear Solid, Silent Hill and Winning Eleven. because Contra is crap against those 3 games
Title: Contra: Shattered Soldier ported over to GameCube
Post by: Sir Daniel Fortesque on February 16, 2003, 02:05:49 PM
Quote Originally posted by: Biohazard "Don't think for a second that Konami is starting already to support the Gamecube, this is merely because Contra didn't sell well on the PS2. How come they never gave us Silent Hill or MGS?"
Always got something to say, geeze Nintendo fans are never happy. Accept the fact that Konami is willing to give the Gamecube a chance...don't purchase this port? Then forget future titles...I wouldn't mind a Silent Hill port or even MGS...oh it's not exclusive...get real.
Who says I'm complaining. I'm just pointing out the facts, some people may actually start thinking Konami is gonna support the GC with strong titles, which is highly unlikely. Besides I don't care much about Contra anyway.
Title: Contra: Shattered Soldier ported over to GameCube
Post by: WindyMan on February 16, 2003, 02:40:58 PM
Uh, where did this information come from? I just checked every major gaming news site, press releases, and even Konami's official websites, and this hasn't come up anywhere. This site didn't even link to the source of the information (something that we always do, ahem) they got this from. Seems like B.S. to me.
Regardless, Contra is damn hard old-school fun. It got average scores because of the difficulty. But you'd still want to play it. (On the PS2 of course, because it's not coming to the GC anytime soon.)
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Post by: GoldShadow on February 16, 2003, 03:48:54 PM
Cool, another game to add to a list somewhere.
Title: Contra: Shattered Soldier ported over to GameCube
Post by: ThePerm on February 16, 2003, 04:53:49 PM
playing shinobi today irealised how easy it would be to port it to gamecube.
Title: Contra: Shattered Soldier ported over to GameCube
Post by: Perfect Cell on February 16, 2003, 05:26:28 PM
It would be nice if Konami did give us somehting more than Disney sports. Even a port of the Contra game would be swell.
Title: Contra: Shattered Soldier ported over to GameCube
Post by: Sean on February 16, 2003, 06:46:08 PM
Hmm...willys85...Contra is "crap" compared to Silent Hill and Winning Eleven? You must have a really low opinion of Contra, or you think that Silent Hill and Winning Eleven are some of the greatest games ever, in which case you're probably in a very small minority...haha. No, seriously, I can't really say having never played WE and only having played SH on the PSX (seemed good, but not THAT great). But I can say that Contra is loads of fun, and I know a lot of people who say that Metal Gear's storyline half ruins the thing. And where's the fun in that? haha...
Title: Contra: Shattered Soldier ported over to GameCube
Post by: Samwise Gamgee on February 17, 2003, 07:29:11 AM
Quote Originally posted by: TheResidentEvil .... I hate companies that abandon the consoles that started them because they think they'll get more money.
OK BUDDIE!! if u had a job, your first job lets say, and it payed u $10 an hour.... but then u saw another job that gave u $100 an hour for doing the exactly the same task, would u stay with your original job because it was your original job?? HELL NO!!!
and if your going to think that way, then why isnt almost EVERY company developing for nintendo b/c many of them made games on that system before!
oh, and incase u didnt know, contra was a multi platform franchize!!! there was a contra on sega!
meh, i'm through here, i just kinda thought that post was a lil dumb sayin u lost respect for them for making a good buisness move!
Title: Contra: Shattered Soldier ported over to GameCube
Post by: godwheel on February 17, 2003, 07:31:28 AM
The only "bad" thing I heard about Contra was that it was "too hard."
I personally enjoyed this about the Playstation 2 version. I'm tired of all these easy ass games!
Title: Contra: Shattered Soldier ported over to GameCube
Post by: Christberg on February 17, 2003, 07:53:09 AM
I wouldn't trust ningc.com at all. They're one of the main sites responsible for making "teh megaton" go for 6 months. If you're not peeved about that, then I don't know what else can convince you.
Wait till you see word about it on here or IGN or something.
Title: Contra: Shattered Soldier ported over to GameCube
Post by: Sean on February 17, 2003, 08:14:44 AM
Samwise, there certainly was a Contra game on the Genesis--it's one of the best, easily. Just behind Super C, if you ask me. I still play that game (Contra Hard Corps) every so often! In fact, if you ask me, Hard Corps (or as my old roommate thought it was pronounced: Hard Corpse...haha...that's just wrong) was the main inspiration behind Shattered Soldier--even some of the bosses are blatant nods to Hard Corps (see the train bosses in both). And the whole aesthetic of the game is right out of Hard "Corpse," what with the dark and dingy scorched future style.
And yes, Shattered Soldier is freaking hard, but it is in fact not substantially harder than some other Contras! Some friends and I played it for about 5 hours (co-op makes it MUCH easier) and we found that it's hard, but it's entirely do-able with lots of practice and pattern memorization. Better yet: the game is SO FUN you WANT to keep playing. Even more than that, it's old-school in the way that it really sparks your gaming pride--you find yourself saying, "You'll never take me alive, Contra!!!!!"
So, don't be a wussy; get this game. ;-)
(Likewise with Ikaruga. Anyone who says it's not good because it's "too hard" is a friggin' pansy. How's that for a ridiculous macho American statement? hahaha....)
Title: Contra: Shattered Soldier ported over to GameCube
Post by: ShockingAlberto on February 17, 2003, 09:20:30 AM
Nintendo fans do have the right to complain. Despite what you may think, Konami is not being "charitable" by porting a game to the GC. Konami owes Nintendo it's lifeblood. They never would have become the power they are now without the NES, the SNES, and (most importantly) the GBA. Nintendo lets them freely develop for the GBA without a contract clause that they need to support the GC. It's the same clause they have with Square (rather, it's subsidiary company). Konami makes a ton off the GBA, the least they could do is give us what we want on the Gamecube.
So, yes, we have a right to complain. Imagine if Nintendo only supported the GBA, and occascionally threw an N64 port at the Gamecube.
-- ShockingAlberto
Title: Contra: Shattered Soldier ported over to GameCube
Post by: JSR on February 17, 2003, 10:04:44 AM
If it's true: If it's not true:
BTW, Welcome ECubed4!
Title: Contra: Shattered Soldier ported over to GameCube
Post by: Koopa Troopa on February 17, 2003, 12:17:20 PM
Quote And yes, Shattered Soldier is freaking hard, but it is in fact not substantially harder than some other Contras! Some friends and I played it for about 5 hours (co-op makes it MUCH easier) and we found that it's hard, but it's entirely do-able with lots of practice and pattern memorization. Better yet: the game is SO FUN you WANT to keep playing. Even more than that, it's old-school in the way that it really sparks your gaming pride--you find yourself saying, "You'll never take me alive, Contra!!!!!"
So, don't be a wussy; get this game. ;-)
(Likewise with Ikaruga. Anyone who says it's not good because it's "too hard" is a friggin' pansy. How's that for a ridiculous macho American statement? hahaha....)
I adore insanely difficult games! You want replay value? Don't give us saves, DO give us a limited lives/continues, and make the enemy number in the thousands with insane levels of difficulty!
Title: Contra: Shattered Soldier ported over to GameCube
Post by: Sean on February 17, 2003, 12:31:56 PM
Quote ShockingAlberto writes: Nintendo fans do have the right to complain.
Um, ShockingAlberto, don't take this the wrong way, but no, Nintendo fans don't have the right to complain. Konami doesn't owe Nintendo or YOU anything. They are a company trying to make good, entertaining games, and if they don't think the GCN is a viable platform, that's their decision!!
I don't see where everyone gets off thinking they have the "right" to claim they deserve this or they deserve that. It's the height of selfishness to carry on in this way, and it needs to stop.
Let me clear up what I mean before everyone starts yelling about free speech...haha.
You have the right to yell about what you want. You have to right to scream that you deserve this or that. You have the right, let's face it, to do whatever the crap you want. What does that mean in the end? Nada.
Some of us need to get over ourselves and realize that there are three actual consoles vying for profit. On top of that, there are HUNDREDS of game makers doing the same thing. If Konami has an unfair view of the GameCube's audience, fine. That's their thing. But your so-called "right" to complain is so utterly useless.
And saying that Konami wouldn't be where they are today without SNES and NES is not a valid argument considering Nintendo held the monopoly on gaming for many a year (though not through all of the SNES' run). Competition is actually a good thing, and sometimes--[here comes a grand breakthrough you may not have heard before]--you don't get everything you want! Can you imagine?
Konami owes Nintendo its lifeblood??? I think you've got that at least a LITTLE backward: without great third parties like Konami and Capcom, etc., Nintendo wouldn't have been as successful as they were. Nintendo's first party stuff keeps them afloat, sure, but quite a few years ago, the work of third parties like Konami made Nintendo a super-power towering over everything else. When they left, or lessened support, Nintendo dropped to second or third. Period.
Konami owes Nintendo fans nothing. They owe Sony fans nothing. They owe MS fans nothing. They owe it to themselves to do as they please. Sometimes I wish some people could step outside of themselves and read what they are typing when they type it--they might be shocked by what they see.
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Post by: Nintendork SP on February 17, 2003, 01:34:40 PM
Contra woops butt!! Love it!! Unfortunately the new sucks.
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Post by: willys85 on February 17, 2003, 01:47:50 PM
Sean, really you have to play WE, and you will see why I told you that Contra isn't that good, but well it's not crap, but the others games are espectacular, if you liked fifa, WE is your heaven, I play it almost every day, and well Silent hill i played once and its a great game, but Contra isn't a bad game, is a good game in my opinion but no so good as WE or SH
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Post by: Kulock on February 17, 2003, 04:37:13 PM
I've been meaning to get Contra: Shattered Soldier for the PS2, I'd be quite happy if it did in fact get a port. But I don't understand where this "news" generated from, unfortunately. Konami recently announced their planned GCN titles, I remember, and it was quite bad. They then invited gamers to post on their message boards what they thought about the list, whoo boy, I took one look in there, pages of irate topics from Gamecube fans. Not that that probably did anything, but then again, maybe it did suggest to Konami to try a few small port projects to see if sales on the GC would be worth it.
Title: Contra: Shattered Soldier ported over to GameCube
Post by: ThePerm on February 17, 2003, 07:35:09 PM
well quite frankly i bought nes for mario bros. without a system filled with mario bros addicted nintendo crackheads there would be no popular system for Konami to put their games on. Where did Konami make alot of its money? Ninja Turtles. At the time most kids were Nintendo fans, at the same item most kids were Ninja Turtles fans. Konami made some fucking crazy dough off Nintendo's platform. Would this shit have done as well on the pc? other systems? HELL NO!!!!! So, while i bought Ninja Turtles, Contra, Tiny Toon Adventures!(a fucking kiddy ass game) i was oen of the millions givign them their money and they have the nerve to say im unimportant? I do not think so.... your not even experimenting with us. There are millions of people who have gamecubes. That is a justifiable userbase to test. If the game is good you can guarantee a userbase at least this big will buy enough to make a profit. Are there million seller games? Yes there is. Is there hit games yes there is? What does this mean the system is profitable. Jump on it. As capitalist its important to capitalize. Also, if you dotn cover your bases you will be screwed.
Title: Contra: Shattered Soldier ported over to GameCube
Post by: Sean on February 18, 2003, 04:35:15 AM
I still say that if you're expecting them to make games for YOU because YOU somehow made them who they are today is a selfish and ridiculous idea.
I can understand if you feel sort of "hurt" by a company you love, but seriously, look at the big picture here. It's not about you or what you've done for the company, even if you think it should be.
Title: Contra: Shattered Soldier ported over to GameCube
Post by: Samwise Gamgee on February 18, 2003, 12:29:58 PM
Quote Originally posted by: Sean
Quote ShockingAlberto writes: Nintendo fans do have the right to complain.
Um, ShockingAlberto, don't take this the wrong way, but no, Nintendo fans don't have the right to complain. Konami doesn't owe Nintendo or YOU anything. They are a company trying to make good, entertaining games, and if they don't think the GCN is a viable platform, that's their decision!!
I don't see where everyone gets off thinking they have the "right" to claim they deserve this or they deserve that. It's the height of selfishness to carry on in this way, and it needs to stop.
Let me clear up what I mean before everyone starts yelling about free speech...haha.
You have the right to yell about what you want. You have to right to scream that you deserve this or that. You have the right, let's face it, to do whatever the crap you want. What does that mean in the end? Nada.
Some of us need to get over ourselves and realize that there are three actual consoles vying for profit. On top of that, there are HUNDREDS of game makers doing the same thing. If Konami has an unfair view of the GameCube's audience, fine. That's their thing. But your so-called "right" to complain is so utterly useless.
And saying that Konami wouldn't be where they are today without SNES and NES is not a valid argument considering Nintendo held the monopoly on gaming for many a year (though not through all of the SNES' run). Competition is actually a good thing, and sometimes--[here comes a grand breakthrough you may not have heard before]--you don't get everything you want! Can you imagine?
Konami owes Nintendo its lifeblood??? I think you've got that at least a LITTLE backward: without great third parties like Konami and Capcom, etc., Nintendo wouldn't have been as successful as they were. Nintendo's first party stuff keeps them afloat, sure, but quite a few years ago, the work of third parties like Konami made Nintendo a super-power towering over everything else. When they left, or lessened support, Nintendo dropped to second or third. Period.
Konami owes Nintendo fans nothing. They owe Sony fans nothing. They owe MS fans nothing. They owe it to themselves to do as they please. Sometimes I wish some people could step outside of themselves and read what they are typing when they type it--they might be shocked by what they see.
THANK YOU!!!! you are so right!!! konomi doesnt owe nintendo their life blood!!! if you are going to think like then, then why dont also say that both sony and microsoft owe nintendo!! its the same freaking thing! if it wasnt for nintendo makin a boom in the market, we wouldnt see seeing these other systems! and then u can think that creating the playstation and xbox is total disrespect to ninteno because they compete against them! BAH!!! see how dumb your reasoning is! there is no layalty, at the end of the day, its all about makin the $$$
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Post by: Kai on February 18, 2003, 12:52:08 PM
People complain whether they have a right to or not. People complain when they feel something is unfair or unjust, and we can argue the merits of that over and over, but in the end it comes down to opinions.
My opinion - people have a right to go to the Konami boards and put forward the game titles they would love to see on the cube. Konami then have the right to either ignore those requests or take them into some sort of account. They are a business.
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Post by: ThePerm on February 19, 2003, 08:58:33 AM
The least i could say konami could do is make a exclusive badass E rated game......their not even doing that. Somethign can be said for ninja turtles though......Ninja Turtles! It better rock liek the classic ones.