Post by: StrikerObi on March 08, 2005, 04:39:25 PM
1up is reporting that Sega took the wraps off a brand new Sonic the Hedgehog game at today's Walk of Game event. However, the new game does not star Sonic. Instead, Sonic's nemesis Shadow the Hedgehog is the main character this time around.
While the core gameplay is very similar to that of Sonic Adventure, there is one huge difference. Shadow is armed and dangerous. That's right, Shadow is packing a gun. He can shoot things with his gun, as well as attack in a more traditional style. Check out 1up's story (linked above) for a video clip of the game. The game will release in the holiday season of this year.
Post by: NotSoStu on March 08, 2005, 04:46:50 PM
Post by: Hostile Creation on March 08, 2005, 04:52:41 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 08, 2005, 04:53:18 PM
ZOMG
Post by: UniversalJuan on March 08, 2005, 04:56:26 PM
Post by: Robotor on March 08, 2005, 04:56:36 PM
Post by: Famicom on March 08, 2005, 04:57:04 PM
Post by: KnowsNothing on March 08, 2005, 04:57:10 PM
Then I said something along the lines of this being "total balls" meets "ASS."
Post by: MaleficentOgre on March 08, 2005, 05:24:57 PM
Post by: odifiend on March 08, 2005, 05:42:27 PM
Post by: Djunknown on March 08, 2005, 05:49:37 PM
If you watched the trailer, notice the strange inclusion of Sonic CD during the montage. It seems Sega has been trying to make the fans forget about this one Sonic game that Sonic Team didn't make. No Sonic CD on Sonic Mega Collection plus? For shame!
Its still too early to tell if this will restore or destroy 'Sonic's' good grace, even though he's not starring in it. But I agree this is their last chance. Even Sonic heads like me aren't going to buy ok-mediocre games forever....
On the bright side, I don't think Shadow will be shooting hookers.
Post by: Ian Sane on March 08, 2005, 05:54:28 PM
My biggest problem with this is that Sonic Team STILL has not delivered a good 3D Sonic game. Sonic Adventure 1 & 2 were okay. Realistically they could have been improved on and eventually a decent 3D Sonic could have been made. But instead of trying to improve Sonic Team has just tried to disguise the games faults by trying to change Sonic into something else. Instead of fixing Sonic Heroes they just added multiple characters. And now instead of fixing Sonic they're just going with a different main character and adding guns. Either put in the effort to make a good 3D Sonic or don't bother making the game at all.
I criticize Nintendo for making too many Mario spinoffs but at least they have not made any crappy cash-in Mario platformers. Ever since Sega got bought by Sammy they've sucked. They're not game artists anymore. This and crap like Virtua Quest and that Shenmue MMO they're making demonstrates that they're just a corporation trying to con us into buying crap because it has a familiar franchise from an era when Sega meant something. Sega Sammy might as well be the current incarnation of Atari: notable in name value only.
Post by: NotRimmer on March 08, 2005, 05:58:30 PM
Post by: thepoga on March 08, 2005, 05:58:44 PM
Post by: thepoga on March 08, 2005, 06:30:57 PM
Quote
Originally posted by: NotRimmer
I hear Mario had a gun in Super Mario Sunshine
The "gun" mario had actually affected the gameplay of platforming and moving. The gun Shadow has doesn't look like it can be used well while running fast. So it slows down the gameplay. It's only purpose is destroying enemies, something that he can already do well. Oh, AND boxes. The gun can also destory boxes that get in his way while running. WOW. But shouldn't he be able to do that with the SUPERSPINNINGROLL thing? Shadow can destory giant robots, but can't destroy a box.
Mario goes pretty slowly (compared to sonic) and is more thinking oriented. Sonic were all about speed and jumping on people.
One more thing about the gun. I don't like how Shadow looks like with it. It's not really him. If Sega really wanted to add a weapon I think a rocket launcher suits his style more. They really should've gotten him two beam swords and he can destroy all the stuff by running by them. If they want violence, i think a stabbing of some random guy through the chest with one of them would work. In fact, its even better than gunning him down. Swords are cooler than guns.
Post by: anubis6789 on March 08, 2005, 06:48:21 PM
Seriously though I just saw the trailer and it did not look THAT bad, although I do think the gun is a little to much, but besides that the game looked pretty cool. More info will need to be released before I even consider buying it though.
Post by: MaleficentOgre on March 08, 2005, 06:52:21 PM
Post by: pyrokamileon on March 08, 2005, 06:54:26 PM
anyways, one more arguement that I have is the graphics and acting. okay firstly the graphics are fine I like then the way they are, sure they could be better, but they always can, right? what I think they need to work on more is the acting. it's really hard to stomach when the voices and lips are way off. not to mention the acting is very slow at times. I think if you run the game in japanese the lips match up better. and I think I've also heard that in japanese the timing is different, some things are slower because of what they're used to? so it seems that they never quite finish the translation to the american audience, I realize that has nothing to do with the gameplay, but I really enjoy the sonic stories and I wish they would improve that so it wouldn't be so hard to watch (it really scared me when knuckles and sonic go super and hyper, because of the motions they were making with their hands!)
Post by: Caillan on March 08, 2005, 07:23:05 PM
I hope Sega finally dies properly, with its franchises. The the talent in the Sonic Team could then be dispersed throughout the industry and used for good, not evil.
Post by: BiLdItUp1 on March 08, 2005, 08:05:13 PM
Post by: KDR_11k on March 08, 2005, 09:40:32 PM
A flaw with Sonic games was always that they weren't really fast, just a set of jump'n'runs with very low friction. The only fast passages were essentially cutscenes, a predetermined path you'd be flung along. Going fast was suicide because you couldn't really see where you were going. Perhaps people just have incorrect memories of the 2d Sonic games... In the end Sonic with guns is exactly what Jazz Jackrabbit was back then. With the difference that Jazz wasn't serious. And Spaz ate the dopefish.
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on March 08, 2005, 10:21:08 PM
Post by: FFVII_Cloud Strife on March 09, 2005, 02:58:44 AM
Post by: Deguello on March 09, 2005, 03:45:45 AM
Post by: couchmonkey on March 09, 2005, 04:08:10 AM
As for this game, on paper it sounds absolutely horrible. Ditch the main character and add guns...could it possibly sound any more desperate? But that doesn't mean it won't be good. It could turn out to be the best 3D Sonic by far...though I admit that's being optimistic. I wish Sega good luck.
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on March 09, 2005, 04:09:33 AM
Post by: FFVII_Cloud Strife on March 09, 2005, 04:17:49 AM
Post by: couchmonkey on March 09, 2005, 04:18:10 AM
Ha ha ha, the idea sounds terrible on paper and after visiting the site, it looks even worse in video form. Or IS HE???
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on March 09, 2005, 04:33:47 AM
This...I'm not sure. The trailers do look pretty sweet. And I don't think it can really be called a Sonic game with the whole shooting aspect. Sure, they're milking the series, but it's a new game that to my knowledge SEGA's never experimented with (the type of game, I mean). I think I might check it out.
This game looks like a sure one for a T rating. OMG LOL WHAT WILL THE 12 YEAR OLDS DO NOW!?
Post by: Bartman3010 on March 09, 2005, 04:53:49 AM
I think its good for Shadow to turn into such a rebel, if they just fixed up the model, gave him a more agressive expression, and shrunk Shadow's gun, it wouldnt look as ridiculous as many have depicted.
Thats PS2 hardware for you, but oh well.
Post by: FFVII_Cloud Strife on March 09, 2005, 06:40:11 AM
Post by: FFVII_Cloud Strife on March 09, 2005, 06:42:33 AM
Post by: Hostile Creation on March 09, 2005, 07:22:34 AM
Post by: joshnickerson on March 09, 2005, 12:09:13 PM
Quote
Originally posted by: Famicom
It's times like this I wish Ninty bought Sega at their lowest point and smacked some sense into their creative dept.
That's what my friend, a huge Sega-holic, as been saying for the past three years. Just buy Sega and put them back on whatever it was they were on when they made NiGHTS.
Is this the supposed "GC Exclusive Sonic" game that was rumored about a month or so ago? I hope not... I was actually laughing my ass off when I first saw Shadow walking towards the screen with the gun in his hand. It just looks so stupid and out of place. God, could you imagine the board meeting?
Developer: "It's gonna be like Sonic... but with a GUN!"
Sammy President: "Huh? I was too busy counting my money to listen. Uh, sure, whatever."
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on March 09, 2005, 04:42:05 PM
Roxy: Yes, Mr. President.
LATER
Sammy President: You got some explaining to do bub. I was just on the PGC forums, and apparently there's some wild new game with a HOLY GOD WHAT ARE YOU DOING!?
*Naka is doing the Monkey naked*
