Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on February 18, 2005, 10:25:39 AM
Cube-europe.com
Post by: Ian Sane on February 18, 2005, 10:41:48 AM
Good to see that sort of inane thought process being rectified for the Revolution. Just the fact that Nintendo acknowledges that an RPG early in the Rev's life is important is great. And this suggests that the Revolution will be capable of playing normal games.
Post by: Bill Aurion on February 18, 2005, 10:43:00 AM
I, for one, have been strutting around since I found this out...If Camelot can get this out within the first 6 months of Rev launch I will be very, very happy...Golden Sun, plz ^_^
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on February 18, 2005, 10:47:46 AM
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And this suggests that the Revolution will be capable of playing normal games.
You're assuming this will be a normal RPG, Ian
Bongo RPG!!! WOOT!
Post by: Bill Aurion on February 18, 2005, 10:53:44 AM
But yeah, we have absolutely no idea what the Rev will entitle, and thus have no idea how "normal" Golden S...errr, this RPG, will be...Hopefully not very normal at all, since that's boring!
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on February 18, 2005, 10:56:44 AM
Post by: Ian Sane on February 18, 2005, 11:09:17 AM
True but at the very least the Virtual Boy was unable to have games as long as RPGs so we at least can assume it's not the VB2.
Post by: nemo_83 on February 18, 2005, 11:30:54 AM
Luigi's Vacum RPG
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on February 18, 2005, 11:36:39 AM
Post by: PaLaDiN on February 18, 2005, 12:24:41 PM
Post by: Bill Aurion on February 18, 2005, 12:40:53 PM
Post by: Caillan on February 18, 2005, 01:56:34 PM
I remember in an interview one of the brothers stating that the Golden Sun games created a world that was not yet fully explored (like Dyack said with Eternal Darkness). I guess that makes it possible to have a sequal to Golden Sun which can still be very original.
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Hopefully not very normal at all, since that's boring!
The only thing boring about Golden Sun was all the text at the start.
Post by: Savior on February 18, 2005, 03:34:24 PM
Post by: MysticGohan24 on February 18, 2005, 07:35:51 PM
that's ok I'll copyrigt it GS Rev would be awesome! I can't wait to see what it's about. Hopefully it'll continue with Issac since we know what happens at the end of GS:LA
Post by: Famicom on February 19, 2005, 05:12:49 AM
Post by: KDR_11k on February 19, 2005, 05:39:28 AM
No.
Do you accept?
No.
Do you accept?
No.
Do you accept?
Yes.
I'm soooo proud of you!
Post by: Bill Aurion on February 19, 2005, 05:41:03 AM
Post by: cat_cube on February 19, 2005, 07:42:26 AM
btw, how many other RPG's have Camelot made apart from the Golden Sun series?
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on February 19, 2005, 08:06:27 AM
Post by: Ian Sane on February 19, 2005, 08:16:43 AM
Camelot made the Shining Force games. The GOOD ones. None of that Shining Soul crap.
Post by: KnowsNothing on February 19, 2005, 01:47:06 PM
"Do you think we should go back to help him?"
Choose YES: "Good idea, that's what I would have said!"
Choose NO: "But he could be in real trouble and only you can help him! Let's go!" "Screw you, I said no." "I'm sooooo proud of you! ^_^"
Oh, if this is indeed Golden sun, I have no doubt that it will be THE most beautiful game ever made.
Post by: ruby_onix on February 19, 2005, 03:08:58 PM
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btw, how many other RPG's have Camelot made apart from the Golden Sun series?
The Takahashi Brothers (going under company names ranging from "Sega" to "Camelot"), made Sega's "Shining Force" strategy-RPG series. It was possibly Sega's premiere RPG series, alongside Phantasy Star, until Sega's non-Camelot-developed games in the expanded "Shining" series killed it's reputation.
When the PlayStation came out, Camelot made "Beyond the Beyond" for Sony, because apparently they weren't tied down to Sega. Sony supposedly pushed them really hard, and demanded that they make sacrifices to the game, because it needed to be a launch RPG. Among most people, Beyond the Beyond seems to have the reputation of being the single worst RPG on the PlayStation. Camelot was clearly not happy about this, got really pissed off, and apparently never wants anything to do with Sony ever again. Probably the best thing I've heard anyone say about Beyond the Beyond is "Ehh... it's not bad... for a Genesis RPG. Which is probably why the Golden Sun games are so good."
Then Camelot made "Shining Force III" for the Saturn. It's supposedly really good, but it never got released in America (of course) so people outside of the most hardcore Sega fans don't seem to know much of anything about it. While making the game, Camelot apparently got into some sort of fight with Sega, got pissed off at them, and don't want anything to do with them ever again. So, they started talking to Nintendo.
Then Camelot made the Golden Sun games on the GBA, and pretty much everyone says they're awesome.
They've supposedly had a "vague intention" of making a GameCube RPG since before the GameCube's launch. But they seem to just keep saying "Nah, we don't want to make another RPG today. Hey Shiggy! Give us Mario! We want to make... ummm... a crazy tennis game! Yeah, that's what we want to do today." Nintendo isn't pushing Camelot to do anything. And it's funny, because Camelot practically seems like a Nintendo second-party these days, but they're just a regular old third party. They're just really happy working with Nintendo.
Personally, I think that after the mess of Beyond the Beyond, and the invisibility of Shining Force III, and the general tarnishing of their old Shining Force name, Camelot needs to get back to work. They need to prove that they can go beyond 16-bit. And they need to prove that they don't just make games for dead systems. Shifting their planned "console RPG" from the GameCube to the Revolution seems like a great idea. I just hope they deliver it this time.
Post by: Ian Sane on February 19, 2005, 08:04:15 PM
Shining Force III was released in North America just not completely. They actually made three games in one. There were three "scenarios" and each one was sold as a seperate game in Japan. In North America however only scenario 1 was released due to some bullsh!t thing with that f*cking moron Bernie Stolar who was running Sega at the time. This would be the "fight with Sega" that ended Camelot's relationship with them.
Post by: KDR_11k on February 20, 2005, 01:12:41 AM
Bill: Me neither, I've been nice and honest on my first playthrough, just wanted to see the differences in my second play. There were only two parts where I said "no", IIRC, both being hostage situations with the enemies saying "Hand over the object XY or we'll kill your friends!". Both times that rat Garret betrayed me, if the game had as much freedom as western RPGs I'd have executed him immediately. You have failed me for the last time!
I guess a GC GS wouldn't fall under my buy all of The Lost Age (TLA?) so that'd definitely be interesting. The combat system could use some improvements and the random encounters must be removed, though.
Post by: Bill Aurion on February 20, 2005, 04:38:49 AM
Post by: KDR_11k on February 20, 2005, 06:47:31 AM
Post by: couchmonkey on February 21, 2005, 11:34:52 AM
Post by: ZombieGalford on February 21, 2005, 02:11:41 PM
Post by: Bill Aurion on February 21, 2005, 02:14:12 PM
Post by: Don'tHate742 on March 05, 2005, 02:11:17 PM
Also, the thing with sequels, they tend to get reviewed lower than the original. Something about people's anticipation and experience with the previous game just ruins the new one alittle. People want this since they had that in the previous game, and cuase of this it would be awesome instead of this they did that, so this game sequel should be...2+2...-6...x 11....two times better! Ya it's gonna ROCK!
It would just be better if they made something original, plain and simple. They already made a sequel, so give it a rest...try something new then hit us with nostalgia (sp?) later.
just my two cents...
Post by: KDR_11k on March 05, 2005, 10:48:26 PM
Only true for japanese games, look at the GTA series or any of EA's sports franchises.
Besides, GSLA wasn't a sequel, it was the second half of the game.
Post by: Don'tHate742 on March 06, 2005, 04:20:50 AM
Also do we really need a sequel to an already established game? Let Camelot work on what ever they want, if they want GS then that's fine. That's really all I was saying. I just hope Nintendo said the same thing.
Post by: Bill Aurion on March 09, 2005, 11:02:33 AM
Um, Camelot said that there's a lot of the Golden Sun realm they haven't explored yet...
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And for us, as far as the whole Golden Sun setting, the world, the storyline for us, in our minds, Golden Sun 1 and 2 are prologues to the real event yet to come… So those games are created—again, from our viewpoint—as a way of introducing this world to the game players.
Post by: Don'tHate742 on March 13, 2005, 07:47:31 AM
Post by: cubist on May 07, 2006, 07:03:34 AM
Post by: Mario on May 07, 2006, 07:24:13 AM
Mario Tennis please! The Wii is begging for a tennis game.
Post by: Bill Aurion on May 07, 2006, 07:54:55 AM
Post by: Caliban on May 07, 2006, 09:33:07 AM
Post by: couchmonkey on May 07, 2006, 05:09:41 PM
Now, I agree a Tennis game is a great idea for Wii, but as the Time article points out, it already exists, and it's fun, so...here's hoping it's either developed by someone other than Camelot, or that it hasn't forced Camelot to delay its RPG.
Post by: Caliban on May 07, 2006, 05:24:09 PM
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Originally posted by: couchmonkey
DS has plenty of RPG support coming down the line, Wii NEEDS an RPG a.s.a.p, it's something Nintendo has been missing two generations in a row now.
Uh, I know GC didn't have many RPGs but the few we had they were pretty good: Skies of Arcadia Legends, Baten Kaitos 1 and 2, Tales of Symphonia, Paper Mario Thousand Year Door, <insert more good RPGs that I might have forgotten>.
Post by: KnowsNothing on May 07, 2006, 05:34:59 PM
I'd rather not have Camelot be making a DS golden sun, the Wii needs it more. Besides, the GBA games were so beautiful I'm really anticipating how awesome it'll look on the Wii
Post by: couchmonkey on May 08, 2006, 06:47:48 AM
But KnowsNothing expresses my biggest complaint: there's already plenty happening on DS with Tales, Final Fantasy, Xenosaga, Mana, and Mario & Luigi. With the system being as hot as it is, you can bet there will be solid RPG support for the rest of its life. If GameCube and N64 are anything to go by, the Wii will need some help with RPGs, especially early on.
Post by: Requiem on December 24, 2006, 07:41:17 PM
Any new developments?
I know camelot updated their site, but it doesn't help since I have no idea what the hell it says. Still, the rollover image on the main page gives me hope that they are finally working on a Wii project....especially because it looks like GS.
www.camelot.co.jp
Post by: BlkPaladin on December 24, 2006, 07:56:09 PM
I didn't get much though they are still making games for the home console though they also want some people with PC experience. They mention RPG and Sports games and Networking experience for the programmers that is all.
Post by: Stogi on March 02, 2009, 12:42:27 AM
Shall we dine with destiny once again? Camelot recently finished Wii Play Mario Tennis so they have to be working on something new. Is it finally what we all have been waiting for?
P.S. I didn't know this at first because I never pronounced it correctly nor have I ever seen it written in english but djinn or JINN comes from Islam. It is used to describe other beings that live among us but cannot interact with us. They are lesser beings; made before us but were not as important as us to warrant the kneeling of angels before us.
Anyway, I found that fascinating.
P.S.S All three of my accounts are in this thread ;D
Post by: Mop it up on March 02, 2009, 03:03:51 AM
What everyone is waiting for probably isn't what I've been hoping for as I found Golden Sun to be boring. Unless this mysterious Wii RPG is an RPG/Mario Tennis hybrid similar to the Mario Tennis game on the Game Boy Color, then colour me uninterested.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 04, 2009, 04:28:41 PM
