Post by: Gamebasher on February 10, 2005, 07:55:26 PM
Nintendo´s new baby is doing what it was meant to do - not just turning heads, but converting die-hard Sony and Microsoft fans back to the Nintendo fold.
In simple terms, the simplicity of the gameplay in DS games makes people who were shown the DS (in this example at a local school) instantly interested, and so much in fact that they won´t easily hand over the DS to the next in line, after their alotted play-sessions. Amazed, delighted, happy and addicted is what they all are, and I think that that is just how it is in many places these days where the DS is shown to people. At least a lot of the people who got to play the DS in this outstanding example, decided to buy it for themselves! Nintendo hit the BullsEye!!! Read about it
right here
About time I got a DS myself. It´s not out here yet, though. So I´ll have to wait (frowns)!!!
Post by: Hostile Creation on February 10, 2005, 08:16:31 PM
Post by: Artimus on February 11, 2005, 09:43:56 AM
Post by: Stimutacs Addict on February 11, 2005, 11:43:33 AM
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 11, 2005, 12:02:46 PM
Post by: Noble~Feather on February 11, 2005, 09:53:20 PM
Post by: Cube_King on February 11, 2005, 11:50:44 PM
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on February 12, 2005, 03:27:19 AM
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on February 12, 2005, 04:38:14 AM
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And yet people like EGM and IGN and Joystiq still have the audacity to call it the next Virtual Boy
The guys at IGN and EGM lack Imagination, all they know is more power better graphics and the such, which is why they love the PSP.
Nintendo thinks more in terms of creating new experiences and possibilities.
Like all really creative people in history they get scorned by those who lack the imagination.
Post by: Gamefreak on February 12, 2005, 12:13:31 PM
I only care about freaking online Mario Kart.
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on February 12, 2005, 01:20:14 PM
Post by: Artimus on February 12, 2005, 01:31:37 PM
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Originally posted by: Avinash_TyagiQuote
And yet people like EGM and IGN and Joystiq still have the audacity to call it the next Virtual Boy
The guys at IGN and EGM lack Imagination, all they know is more power better graphics and the such, which is why they love the PSP.
Nintendo thinks more in terms of creating new experiences and possibilities.
Like all really creative people in history they get scorned by those who lack the imagination.
Too bad 95% of the consumer public agree with IGN and EGM, eh?
Post by: Noble~Feather on February 12, 2005, 02:26:38 PM
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Originally posted by: ArtimusQuote
Originally posted by: Avinash_TyagiQuote
And yet people like EGM and IGN and Joystiq still have the audacity to call it the next Virtual Boy
The guys at IGN and EGM lack Imagination, all they know is more power better graphics and the such, which is why they love the PSP.
Nintendo thinks more in terms of creating new experiences and possibilities.
Like all really creative people in history they get scorned by those who lack the imagination.
Too bad 95% of the consumer public agree with IGN and EGM, eh?
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Well, you don't know that, now do you?
Post by: Gamefreak on February 12, 2005, 03:55:52 PM
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Originally posted by: Lord_die_seis
Why do you only care about a online mario kart? Are so narrowminded that your whole system purchase revolves arround one game and if it has online or not?
No I'm making a point. Nintendo should focus on making online multiplayer standard and revolution games with new forms of online multiplayer using the DS's features, instead of trying to convince Nintendo fanboys that DS owns because Nintendo has captured the attention of your mom and sister who have found a new toy to play on weekends.
At the expense of your brother and father now playing a PSP.
I mean, great Nintendo DS attracts non-gamers. So does Game Boy Advance. Everyone has one. Those people aren't that important. The core demographic - 13 - 30 year old males - is being ignored (ok not ignored, but they aren't being focused on) and it's going to regret it.
Nintendo is just being it's usual stubborn self, trying to act smarter and wiser than it is, trying to fix something that's no broken. And you know what happens when you try to fix something that's not broken. You break it.
Post by: PaLaDiN on February 12, 2005, 05:10:27 PM
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on February 12, 2005, 06:00:30 PM
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Post by: Gamebasher on February 12, 2005, 06:40:42 PM
Just look at the response from people who never played games!!! You´d NEVER see that kind of response with the PSP! That much is sure.
Post by: Hostile Creation on February 12, 2005, 09:31:10 PM
My father loves the DS, too. He got the Bob-ombs Away highscore in Mario 64 DS. In fact, everyone I've showed the DS to loves it, every friend and family member. Whereas none of them either know about or care about the PSP. And my mother is considering buying one, which means as much, sales-wise, as a "hardcore gamer" buying one.
Mario Kart DS online would be awesome, yes, but Mario Kart isn't all there is to life, y'know.
Post by: couchmonkey on February 13, 2005, 04:42:15 AM
Post by: KDR_11k on February 13, 2005, 07:40:21 AM
Post by: Gamebasher on February 13, 2005, 10:42:41 AM
That is EXACTLY why Nintendo made the DS!
And the PSP will get it´s day in hell, when the number of DS owners grow to such numbers that there will be one DS for every PSP. Then people will instantly see the contrast between the two worlds of gameplay, and when tiring of the ubiquitous gameplaymechanics in ALL the PSP games, want to try the DS. Just like people described in that editorial did!
Nintendo is the best!
There is just nothing that Sony can do about that. By the way, do you know that Sony stole the WipeOut gameidea from Nintendo´s F-Zero? They did! Wait till F-Zero comes out on the DS! RRRRR-ROCK!
Post by: NWR_Lindy on February 13, 2005, 11:41:34 AM
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Originally posted by: KDR_11k
Well, the DS should also pull in the disgruntled gamers who got bored of playing the same crap over and over agian with different names wrapped around it.
It's not like the DS is doing anything new. Mario Kart? Animal Crossing? Castlevania? Advance Wars? Wario Ware? Yoshi? Rayman? Pokemon? Sonic? Zelda? They've all been done before but they're all the most anticipated games for the DS. So don't go slamming the PSP because they're rehashing "the same crap over and over again". EVERYBODY does that.
Gamebasher, that's possibly the best Nintendo fanboy posting I've ever seen. Kudos. ;-D
silks
Post by: Mr. Segali on February 13, 2005, 12:04:54 PM
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Originally posted by: SilksQuote
Originally posted by: KDR_11k
Well, the DS should also pull in the disgruntled gamers who got bored of playing the same crap over and over agian with different names wrapped around it.
It's not like the DS is doing anything new. Mario Kart? Animal Crossing? Castlevania? Advance Wars? Wario Ware? Yoshi? Rayman? Pokemon? Sonic? Zelda? They've all been done before but they're all the most anticipated games for the DS. So don't go slamming the PSP because they're rehashing "the same crap over and over again". EVERYBODY does that.
Gamebasher, that's possibly the best Nintendo fanboy posting I've ever seen. Kudos. ;-D
silks
Rehashes or not, Nintendo needs to release SOMETHING. I spent $250 on a bundle pack that I didn't really need just so I could play Mario 64 again. Don't get me wrong, I had a blast collecting all 150 stars and all, but now I'd like another game. Last month... only one game was released- an overpriced Bejeweled clone... and all the titles that I'm looking forward to (rehashes or not) keep getting pushed back further and further...
I think Nintendo released the DS a few months too early. Sure, it was a good idea to create a userbase to contend with the PSP's launch, but I think putting Nintendo users through another gaming dryspell is a really bad move- especially when it's only a couple month's after the system's launch. Sure, I could just keep buying GBA games to tide me over, but that's what my GBA, GBA SP, and GBPlayer are for. I didn't spend 200 plus dollars to play my GBA games on a 4th screen...
Post by: PaLaDiN on February 13, 2005, 12:05:50 PM
They may have been done before, but not with two screens and not with a touch screen. It makes a difference.
Why are you conveniently ignoring games like Feel the Magic and Metroid Hunters? How has Yoshi been done before? How can you pass judgement on the rest of the games, considering we know next to nothing about what their DS versions will offer?
I agree with Segali though, I'm still waiting for those games to come out.
Post by: Bill Aurion on February 13, 2005, 12:12:52 PM
Post by: Shecky on February 13, 2005, 03:48:40 PM
Post by: Gamefreak on February 13, 2005, 06:46:23 PM
QuoteUm that's a bold statement to make, since the PSP isn't out anywhere but Japan yet.
Originally posted by: Gamebasher
You know, I don´t care a flying bit about what these websites are saying. They will be proven wrong!
Just look at the response from people who never played games!!! You´d NEVER see that kind of response with the PSP! That much is sure.
As for Sony charging a Wi-Fi fee, I don't believe that. They don't charge a fee for PS2 games online.
Anyway, this isn't really that bad since I fully expect Nintendo will in fact release an online Mario Kart and they have an online plan. They just need to hurry up, and freaking say something about it.
Post by: Gamebasher on February 14, 2005, 04:39:27 AM
"It's not like the DS is doing anything new. Mario Kart? Animal Crossing? Castlevania? Advance Wars? Wario Ware? Yoshi? Rayman? Pokemon? Sonic? Zelda? They've all been done before but they're all the most anticipated games for the DS. So don't go slamming the PSP because they're rehashing "the same crap over and over again". EVERYBODY does that."
"Gamebasher, that's possibly the best Nintendo fanboy posting I've ever seen. Kudos. ;-D"
First of all, Silks, THANKS! I looove getting appraisal´s. So done with that part of my reply, on to the next part:
DS not doing enything new? Are you kiddin´? There is no where that the PSP give you so many NEW ways of playing with the known types of franchise characters in their respective gameworlds as on the DS. And that´s just the start! We haven´t seen nothing yet! Sony and PSP ARE rehashing the same gameplay over and over again, and which has people tired of it after a short time looking to the next game on the short list of PSP games so far on offer.
Also, the DS is far cheaper to develope for, as opposed to the PSP which is a developer nightmare, as it is a portable Ps2 demanding huge leaps in graphical power that drain batteries fast. This means less playtime, and more annoying battery-changes/-purchases, not to mention high-cost original 1. party games that will be scarce - expensive as they are to make and leaving the rest to third-parties who will mostly just directly port their existing games library over to the machine (or just slightly enhancing certain of them in various ways). But that is still nothing compared to DS, and what it will boast as per gameplay innovation in upcoming games. The developers love it, and they will make full use of it´s awesome possibilities. DS winns!
Post by: KDR_11k on February 14, 2005, 05:16:00 AM
Silks: It's more the potential than the actual stuff delivered so far but I'm damn sure we'll see some quite original games on the DS, though perhaps not from Nintendo. Devs love to experiment and with that many lined up you can bet that at least some of them are allowed to experiment, especially considering the reviewers' attitude of "everything must use the mic and touchscreen". The DS follows what gamers demand (less emphasis on graphics, fresh gameplay) at least in hardware design and has a MUCH higher chance of seeing interesting new titles than the PSP. I doubt they'll sell but gamers don't care whether their games have mass appeal.
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on February 14, 2005, 05:41:07 AM
Post by: nemo_83 on February 15, 2005, 03:30:48 PM
what it has done wrong is that it is presently doomed to franchise hell and hasn't shown off that key game that uses the stylus that makes the system a must have.
Post by: Gamebasher on February 18, 2005, 04:53:34 AM
I am happy, though, to hear that you saw people enjoy playing the DS. And I agree that we need to see unique software taking full advantage of the touchscreen. So Ninty´s got work at hand. But I am sure they´re on to it even as I write this, as is more than 100 other developers. I am still preplexed though as to why they launched the DS without more compelling software. The sales numbers clearly indicate that people are content with one or two games. So why the apparent rushed launch? Perhaps it takes so damn long to make the games that make the difference show?
Post by: nemo_83 on February 22, 2005, 05:19:16 PM
The most striking thing I felt about the design was the way it radiates from the center where the thumb rests on the trackball rather than creating a mold with parts like shelves, prongs, and bridges and then tacking on the input mechanics afterwards. I tried to let the form radiate from the center like a shell, similar to the golden mean.
Post by: Gamebasher on February 23, 2005, 05:38:16 AM
I downright expect something way cool which´ll blow us all away!
Post by: nemo_83 on February 23, 2005, 09:49:41 AM
Post by: Gamebasher on February 24, 2005, 06:22:25 AM
The complete list of the latest "Revolution"-rumours...
Tell me what you think!
Just one thing I forgot: we should probably go over to another area to discuss this matter further, as this is supposed to be only about NDS!
Post by: nemo_83 on February 24, 2005, 09:05:17 AM
Post by: Hostile Creation on February 24, 2005, 10:34:46 AM
