Community Forums => General Chat => Topic started by: cool_ranch_1234 on January 06, 2005, 08:33:25 PM
Title: Wrestlemania 21
Post by: cool_ranch_1234 on January 06, 2005, 08:33:25 PM
I am, like a lot of people in North America, a wrestling fan, and it excites me that Wrestlemania is under 3 months away . But there is, however, one match, which is interpromotional (Raw superstar Vs Smackdown! superstar), that I would be most excited to see. That match is Shawn Michaels VS Kurt Angle.
I could be wrong, but i do not think that these superstars have faced each other before, and both of them are HUGE stars on their respected brands. But i'm not thinking about this match just because, but if you remember back at Survivor Series in November, Kurt Angle made fun of Edge for never winning the World Title, and for losing at the Taboo Tuesday fan balloting to an injured Shawn Michaels. Edge said that "I took Shawn Michaels out, something that you could never do". Angle replied with "Oh really. I'd made Shawn Michaels tap in seconds." So maybe Kurt Angle was foreshadowing something by saying this.
But another reason why this would be a good match is because both Angle and HBK are "Grand Slam" or "Triple Crown" Champions (meaning that they have held the WWE, Intercontinental, and Tag Team titles at least once); Shawn Michaels being the first to do it, and Kurt Angle being the fastest to do it. And i also know of the rivalry that HBK is having with Edge as of late, but I am hoping that should HBK and Edge have a match, that it is on RAW or at the Royal Rumble, and then see the HBK/Angle match happen at the biggest stage of them all, at Wrestlemania!
Title: RE: Wrestlemania 21
Post by: nickmitch on January 07, 2005, 01:07:56 PM
I think HHH also did it. But that does sound like a good match.
Title: RE:Wrestlemania 21
Post by: zelos_rules on January 07, 2005, 09:22:02 PM
Yeah I was thinking bout that match while I was on the toilet this morning. Im pretty sure it would go down as a classic. Im hoping that Y2J and HBK fued at wrestlemania. Then in the draft the next Raw HBK, Y2J, Christian, Tajiri and a random few get traded for Big Show, John Cena, and there 2 or 3 tag teams.
I think the star power of Y2J and HBK along with future star Christian can really help smackdown. I say bring Cena and Show down to Raw because they are becoming rather stale on Smackdown in my eyes with no great forseeable fueds left on the show for them.
Title: RE: Wrestlemania 21
Post by: nickmitch on January 08, 2005, 11:45:12 AM
Yeah, Cena just can't keep raping for no reason.
Title: RE:Wrestlemania 21
Post by: zelos_rules on January 08, 2005, 02:51:12 PM
U mean rapping yeh? ...if not then we got Heidenrape ver.2
Title: RE:Wrestlemania 21
Post by: cool_ranch_1234 on January 08, 2005, 07:52:28 PM
I agree that there should be a switch of superstars, but some superstars are kind of "made" for their respected brands and shouldn't be moved. One of these people is Chris Jericho. While he was originally drafted a Smackdown superstar (and he is by the way a good fit on both RAW and Smackdown!), you need to remember one slogan: "RAW is Jericho!".
It also kind of the same situation for HBK. I think he's only appeared on Smackdown! once (On the VERY FIRST Smackdown! in 1999, when he refereed the WWE Title match between Triple H and The Rock, and then hit The Rock with Sweet Chin Music). And he's also one of the superstars, that I personally think, put RAW on the map. He was a key member of DX (and the NWO, i guess), and i think RAW would really hurt if they lost him.
But ya I was going through the Smackdown Archives a couple days agos, and i noticed that Cena had a lot of victories, but most of them were against wrestlers like the Bashams and Rene Dupree. So i think he should either start to fight better superstars on Smackdown, or go to RAW, where we know he will fight better opponents (personally I think hes a better fit on Smackdown!). Tajiri and The Hurricane should go to Smackdown, so they can at least compete for the Cruiserweight Title, and RVD should come back to RAW, because he's better known as "Mr. Monday Night" than "Mr Thursday Night".
Title: RE:Wrestlemania 21
Post by: Shift Key on January 09, 2005, 12:33:06 AM
Quote Im hoping that Y2J and HBK fued at wrestlemania.
Whaaaaat? When HBK showed up as guest ref at New Years Revolution on the last Raw I saw a couple of weeks ago, Y2J was one of the happy ones. I think you're just being too optimistic there.
Title: RE:Wrestlemania 21
Post by: cool_ranch_1234 on January 09, 2005, 09:00:59 AM
yeah, and besides, HBK and Y2J already fought each other at Wrestlemania 19 (which was a classic match by the way), and there both faces right now anyways.
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Post by: zelos_rules on January 09, 2005, 12:25:14 PM
Yeh I know it aint gonna happen. It looks to be HBK/Edge at Wrestlemania but still ..one can hope cant they?
NYR is on in 1 hour and a half. Even though I know Jericho isnt gonna win im still looking forward to the match. If Y2J dont get the belt then Edge should.
IF ORTON GETS THE BELT I WILL SUICIDE MY ACCOUNT
Title: RE: Wrestlemania 21
Post by: MysticGohan24 on January 09, 2005, 02:20:04 PM
You know it sucks, that THQ pulled Wrestlemania from Nintendo, give us a new name "Day of REckoning" and gives Xbawk Wrestlemania 21 game, I'm like WTF? Why change what was Raw, and give what was a nintendo system staple?
Bah THQ sux.
Oh the Best Match would be Bret the "Hitman" Hart Vs. Angle or Benoit. Maybe Shawn Michaels. But we know that the Iron man match was a screw job by Vince. Shawn could never win against Bret.
Best there is, best there was and the best there ever be`
Title: RE:Wrestlemania 21
Post by: zelos_rules on January 12, 2005, 01:09:32 AM
DAMN HHH is a selfish son of a bit*h.
Even though the man is perhaps one of the greatest in-ring talents and on mic peformers: noone deserves to be in the spotlight this much. The only way I would of accepted the HHH title reign would be if it were a result of a HBK heel turn.
Does anyone else agree that HHH has had the title 10 times too many? (thats an exageration but ....)
Title: RE: Wrestlemania 21
Post by: nickmitch on January 14, 2005, 06:25:12 PM
I'd say 2-4 times too many. It's about time they got some one fresh to hold the title. You see the WWE now is like a boggle. At first it's fun and you can see lots of words, then it starts getting hard and the damned thing starts giving you a headache, so you shake the thing up a bit and BAM! The fun starts all over again.
Title: RE:Wrestlemania 21
Post by: zelos_rules on January 15, 2005, 02:04:38 PM
Im just gonna go through my list of superstars on Raw ...tell us what u think
Batista - He is being pushed properly and I really hope the man doesnt part with Flair because once the man is on his own : his lack of mic skills will begin to become apparent.
Benoit - The man is a awsome wrestler with decent mic skills and has no storyline going for him. I believe he and Jericho are going to fued until Wrestlemania 21. ...Deserves another title run. Maybe one that will offer him more opponents beside HHH.
Orton - The man was awsome as a heel. Whether you liked him or not you must agree that he raised the prestige of the IC title. But since turning face he has changed to much, going from the young cocky legend killer to the "Happy Happy guy who will do anything for a cheap pop" **Orton Pose**
Jericho - Underrated. The man is perhaps the greatest on the mic in the buisness today and his in-ring skills rival that of Benoit, Angle and Eddie. If given the title Jericho can be given the chance to have some awsome fueds. Imagine Y2J vs Edge, or Y2J vs Orton, or Y2J vs HBK fued. The man has the ability to make the crowd go wild. Last time I remember seeing him on the mic besides his Highlight reel where he is usually cast aside is when he had a go at HHH in what was an awsome promo. ...GIVE THE MAN THE WHC TITLE!!!
Kane - Kane doesnt need the title in my opinion, he just needs a fued with someone besides Snitsky or Hardy. Also he should be tainted as unbeatable not as someone who can be taken down by some ugly SOB who cant even pronounce Tuesday (Snitsky).
Edge - Being pushed properly and at the rate he is going will have the title by the end of the year.
HHH - he has been pushed down our throats and the whole Raw show revolves around him. Whole year he has been fueding with Benoit for the title, and if he wasnt fueding with Benoit he was main eventing with HBK in a HIAC. If it wasnt HBK or Benoit then it was Eugene in which the storyline was HHH getting the title back. ...simple soloution for us would be if the man was to be run over by a bus.
What are ur opinions on these guys?
Title: RE: Wrestlemania 21
Post by: nickmitch on January 16, 2005, 05:39:54 PM
Batisa - Needs to fight HHH. Benoit - (Ken Shamrock + Owen Heart)/2 + Canada style crazy = Entertainment. Orton - Kind of a dutche. Jericho - Go back to the rock thing. Kane - Sucks now. Beter with mask on. Edge - should team up with Christian again and go back to giving blood baths. HHH - Needs to shut up. I'm getting sick of him.