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Title: Baten Kaitos
Post by: WuTangTurtle on November 30, 2004, 09:55:39 PM
Wow, anyone else pick this game up?

So far im not really that far in (4hrs worth) but what ive seen ive loved.

Except one thing leveling up is weird, u must pray at a church to realize your true strenghts in order to level up and class up.  With my luck i didn't figure this out and when i finally did my character jumped up 5 levels, and 1 class, LOL
Title: RE: Baten Kaitos
Post by: PaLaDiN on November 30, 2004, 11:05:10 PM
I just got the game... haven't done anything yet, too busy with other stuff.
Title: RE: Baten Kaitos
Post by: vudu on December 01, 2004, 07:57:45 AM
Something I've been wondering now for the past few months ... exactly how does one pronounce Baten Kaitos?  I haven't seen any commercials for it, and none of my friends know either.
Title: RE: Baten Kaitos
Post by: Ian Sane on December 01, 2004, 08:09:23 AM
Bah-ten Keye-toes?  I don't know since I don't have the game but that's how I assume it's pronounced.
Title: RE: Baten Kaitos
Post by: PaLaDiN on December 01, 2004, 08:33:38 AM
Well, it's pretty horrible Arabic.

Batn Kayy-tos (ka as in karma) would be my guess, but then again I've never heard the word "Kaitos" in Arabic. Maybe it's a different dialect.
Title: RE:Baten Kaitos
Post by: WuTangTurtle on December 02, 2004, 06:25:20 AM
there is a developer interview at gamespot, i believe he pronounced it bat-in-ki-toes.  I'm not totally sure myself, if it is driving you crazy go to (http://www.gamespot.com/gamecube/rpg/batenkaitos/index.html?q=baten)  The video clip is free to stream on that link's page!
Title: RE:Baten Kaitos
Post by: Dasmos on December 03, 2004, 10:18:50 PM
What date is Baten Kaitos expected to be released in Australia? Cause i am kinda interested in picking this up
Title: RE: Baten Kaitos
Post by: Caillan on December 03, 2004, 10:26:07 PM
According to NAL's website, 'TBA', but that hardly means much. I think the general consensus is Q1 2005.
Title: RE:Baten Kaitos
Post by: Dasmos on December 03, 2004, 11:04:41 PM
Yeah i was just looking at NAL's site and it says TBA for alot of upciming games oh well....
Title: RE: Baten Kaitos
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on December 05, 2004, 06:24:13 AM
Baah-TEN KY-tose.

"Ky" as in "Kyle."

And it is Arabic.  Shinji Noguchi, producer, say that it's an Arabic term for a star located in the center of the Cetus (whale) constellation.  Hence the whale we see at the end of the opening FMV.
Title: RE: Baten Kaitos
Post by: PaLaDiN on December 05, 2004, 11:28:00 AM
"Shinji Noguchi, producer, say that it's an Arabic term for a star located in the center of the Cetus (whale) constellation. Hence the whale we see at the end of the opening FMV."

It actually means "belly of a whale" in Arabic, if I'm not mistaken. It's pretty horrible Arabic though, the way they spell it. The "e" should be silent.  
Title: RE:Baten Kaitos
Post by: Hemmorrhoid on December 08, 2004, 08:05:15 AM
Do you speak arabic Paladin? That is quite impressive to say the least.
Title: RE: Baten Kaitos
Post by: PaLaDiN on December 08, 2004, 08:28:48 AM
Only a little... I've got a working knowledge of Arabic from where I grew up, but I'm planning to learn more sooner or later.

I know the basics... can have a small conversation with most Arabic people. And of course, a few choice swearwords here and there, because nothing is more fun than insulting people to their face when they can't tell if you did or not. Enta homar.

It's not that impressive, it's just another language, although it is harder than French and English to learn.

Anyway, back on topic. I'm on disc 2 of this game now... it's absolutely gorgeous, and the battle system is much deeper than I thought it would be. What I love most about this game is the obvious imagination that went into it... some of the weirdest dungeons and enemies I've ever seen. It's like playing through a fairytale spun by an insane lunatic. Granted, some of the pieces are cliche, but their presentation definitely isn't, and that more than makes up for it for me.
Title: RE: Baten Kaitos
Post by: PaLaDiN on December 08, 2004, 07:59:04 PM
Update: Just when I thought it was safe to assume I knew everything that would happen...

Certainly didn't see that coming.
Title: RE: Baten Kaitos
Post by: BlkPaladin on December 09, 2004, 11:25:39 AM
Yeah the story is pretty good. I'm very close to the end, just finishing up the side quests before I go on.
Title: RE:Baten Kaitos
Post by: Dasmos on December 09, 2004, 01:39:19 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: PaLaDiN
It's like playing through a fairytale spun by an insane lunatic.


Just like Alice in Wonderland was written by Lewis Carroll when he was smoking something......it shows if you've read the book
Title: RE: Baten Kaitos
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on December 09, 2004, 01:52:21 PM
Ooh!  Ooh!  Or like Snow White was written while Abraham Lincoln was high.  Ha.  I said high.  That's kinda like drunk.  Which I am.
Title: RE:Baten Kaitos
Post by: zelos_rules on December 09, 2004, 02:59:13 PM
What were you trying to say Paladin? Im fluent arabic and I couldnt make out that swear word.

If and when someone finishes it can you please tell me the longevity of the game and if it is any good compared to Tales.
Title: RE: Baten Kaitos
Post by: PaLaDiN on December 09, 2004, 05:19:50 PM
zelos, what dialect of Arabic do you speak? That was Masri.

As for the Carroll analogy, yeah, that's pretty accurate.
Title: RE:Baten Kaitos
Post by: zelos_rules on December 09, 2004, 07:51:13 PM
Im from Syria so I speak it quite fluently. Its the only way I talk to certain family members as not all of them know english very well.

And too keep on topic I wanna also ask if the characters devolep as deep as they do in Tales of Symphonia, the charectars in TOS were my favourite part of the game.
Title: RE: Baten Kaitos
Post by: BlkPaladin on December 09, 2004, 08:17:55 PM
They get into the two main character pretty deeply. And the supporting characters well not as well. Its basically centered all around the male lead though and somewhat the female lead.
Title: RE: Baten Kaitos
Post by: PaLaDiN on December 09, 2004, 08:41:13 PM
zelos, Syrian Arabic is a type of the Shami/Levantine group, like Lebanese if I'm not mistaken. There's plenty of different dialects of Arabic and some of them are practically different languages. I know Egyptian/Masri Arabic is entirely different from Syrian and Lebanese, which would explain it.

Back on topic. I really like some of the characters here... none of them match Kratos of course, but it's not like any RPG character will ever quite match Kratos. And besides, I play with the voices off so it's harder to get attached to them.
Title: RE: Baten Kaitos
Post by: Caliban on December 11, 2004, 07:46:22 AM
So this game uses some arabic terms, right? Then can anyone tell me if Mira has any arabic meaning or what does it relate to in any way to the real world? I'm just curious because my family name from my father's part is exactly Mira. Btw, I haven't been to Mira yet in the game so don't spoil anything for me.

Edit: I forgot to mention that this game beautifully gorgeous!
Title: RE: Baten Kaitos
Post by: PaLaDiN on December 11, 2004, 08:36:56 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mira_variable
Also, it could be the first part of "Mirage".

As for Arabic, not as far as I know. It does sound like a normal Arabic name though.
Title: RE: Baten Kaitos
Post by: Caliban on December 11, 2004, 12:46:27 PM
LOL, never thought of it being part of the word Mirage. Nevertheless it's awesome to at least find your family name in a game.

Btw, to those that have finished the game, when you finished the game did you have seen/collected every card available in the game or were there still some? I'm only like close to 20 hours to this game and I have like 225/1022 cards that I've seen/collected, is that a good or am I being too lazy?
Title: RE: Baten Kaitos
Post by: KDR_11k on December 11, 2004, 07:06:32 PM
Guess how I felt when I played Silver and suddently wondered how the game knew my name.
Title: RE: Baten Kaitos
Post by: Bloodworth on December 12, 2004, 09:24:28 AM
I didn't keep track, but I don't believe I got anywhere near finding all the cards.  There are a lot of crazy combinations to experiment with.
Title: RE:Baten Kaitos
Post by: Caliban on December 12, 2004, 12:12:59 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: KDR_11k
Guess how I felt when I played Silver and suddently wondered how the game knew my name.


I bet you had one big grin on your face!


Quote

Originally posted by: Bloodworth

I didn't keep track, but I don't believe I got anywhere near finding all the cards. There are a lot of crazy combinations to experiment with.


*sigh* I forgot about the combinations. No matter, because I love the card collecting, specially when a group of cards on my hand fuses into one new card it just makes me laugh at the poor enemy that is going to get hit with it.
Title: RE: Baten Kaitos
Post by: BlkPaladin on December 14, 2004, 07:30:28 PM
Well I beat the game two days ago. It was all in all a very good game, and storyline. I wouldn't mind playing it again. (And I will more than likly do so with the DS.) I just have one problem the accual last fight wasn't really hard and basically uncalled for. And the ending did creep me out a little bit.