Post by: RahXephon on February 12, 2003, 07:31:57 PM
Post by: DrForester on February 12, 2003, 08:16:55 PM
Part of me really wishes they had stuck with the Final Fantasy Unlimited game rathter than canning it and making FF:CC
Post by: Nile Boogie on February 12, 2003, 08:27:18 PM
Post by: Grey Ninja on February 12, 2003, 08:33:52 PM
Final Fantasy IX I thought had some real potential. The character and art design were excellent, the soundtrack was quite nice, and the combat system was awesome. However, a boring plot and weak characters killed the game for me. It became my second least favorite Final Fantasy after that. (behind Mystic Quest, but after FF2j)
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles has some real similarities with FF9, and I respect that. I just hope it does it right this time around. I want to see a classic Final Fantasy once more.
Post by: Hybrid Hunter on February 12, 2003, 08:35:34 PM
Square or Nintendo should start up a site soon, giving us bios of the characters and story plot!
Post by: Grey Ninja on February 12, 2003, 08:42:44 PM
It seems that a village is protected by a magical force, which must be replenished every year. In a new year celebration or something like that, 4 young people are selected to retrieve some more Mana to replenish the village's barrier from a dangerous area outside the village's protection. Things kind of go from there.
Mind you, it's been a long time since I read the synopsis, so I don't remember quite clearly... but it's sort of like that. I just thought I would throw it in, since you sparked my memory of it, and everyone here seems ravenous for information.
Post by: theaveng on February 13, 2003, 07:23:33 AM
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Post by: Hemmorrhoid on February 13, 2003, 10:09:56 AM
Anyway, im ridicilously hyped about this game. It looks deep, magic, fun, great in any which way. This is like 2nd on my wanted list after zelda.
Post by: Icons by Size on February 13, 2003, 10:43:47 AM
Does FFCC require a GBA? I wont buy it if it does and that will be very bad and make me very angry
Also i heard it requires 4 human players at all times...that is also not good.
Post by: The Omen on February 13, 2003, 11:52:10 AM
Post by: theaveng on February 13, 2003, 12:04:24 PM
Post by: RahXephon on February 13, 2003, 05:04:58 PM
On a side note, i just got my OoT/MQ disc today, and i allready beat the deku tree... in 20 minutes. But i still had so much fun reminiscing and such. It was truly a great experience to relive the game again on my cube.
Back to FF:CC, from that little synopsis i can allready see a FF plot forming. Whenever there is a little village like the one described, there is usually a big tech world outside of it. And you know they just would love to get there hands on that Mana. I JUST WANT TO SEE AN AIRSHIP ON MY CUBE. Here's hoping for some good word about it. Thanks for your posts so far, keep um coming.
Post by: BlkPaladin on February 13, 2003, 06:55:24 PM
Post by: Calibretto on February 13, 2003, 08:41:48 PM
Post by: theaveng on February 14, 2003, 04:38:40 AM
Also would you rate FF4 (akaFF2-US) beter or worse than FF7/9? (again just curious)
Post by: EggyToast on February 14, 2003, 06:01:01 AM
I was worried at first, hearing that it was an action RPG, but it looks like it's turning into something great.
Post by: theaveng on February 16, 2003, 06:13:41 AM
QuoteHave you played the Japanese Original Nintendo ES Final Fantasies (2,3,5) that were not released to the U.S.?* Just curious.
Originally posted by: RahXephon
Now i LOVE final fantasy, i do not own a ps2 or ps1 but have found away to beat them all. I love all the ones in the original systems too
*FF5 was later released to the U.S. on PS1.
Post by: theaveng on February 16, 2003, 06:13:45 AM
QuoteHave you played the Japanese Original Nintendo ES Final Fantasies (2,3,5) that were not released to the U.S.?* Just curious.
Originally posted by: RahXephon
Now i LOVE final fantasy, i do not own a ps2 or ps1 but have found away to beat them all. I love all the ones in the original systems too
*FF5 was later released to the U.S. on PS1.
Post by: Hemmorrhoid on February 16, 2003, 06:21:29 AM
Im hoping its as long as FFX with less movies, more magical and just cooler. After all, its realtime action battles which I love.
Post by: WesDawg on February 25, 2003, 01:00:42 PM
http://www.nintendo.com/games/gamepage/gamepage_main.jsp?gameId=1539&showMe=1
Don't know if that link will work, but I tried. It's looking beautiful. 4-player looks interesting. I hope it plays like classic FF.
Post by: AlphaDragoon2002 on February 25, 2003, 03:19:32 PM
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Originally posted by: Grey Ninja
Personally, I am guardedly optomistic. I hated FF8 and 9, and from what I have seen, FFX isn't that great. FFXI is of course, someone's sick idea of a joke, and FF-X2... well... I might prefer playing Tomb Raider (and I HATE Tomb Raider). Basically, that covers all the recent Final Fantasies. But to be fair, I haven't played FFX yet. I am just going on word of mouth and plot details I have picked up here and there.
Final Fantasy IX I thought had some real potential. The character and art design were excellent, the soundtrack was quite nice, and the combat system was awesome. However, a boring plot and weak characters killed the game for me. It became my second least favorite Final Fantasy after that. (behind Mystic Quest, but after FF2j)
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles has some real similarities with FF9, and I respect that. I just hope it does it right this time around. I want to see a classic Final Fantasy once more.
Personally, I loved FFVIII (one of the best IMO) and can't stand FFVI (which many people say is the best) so what does that say? I'm hoping they don't stick to boring old "classic" FF for this game, make it innovative and new with just a bit of the old flair. And before anybody starts talking trash, I did play all the old-school FF games, when they first came out. I just (shock and horror) like the new FF games better.
Anyway, it looks like Square has the right idea with this game, especially the 4-player thing. It's like Secret of Mana on GC, maybe better! I think I'll trust their judgement on this one (like I'm trusting them with FFX-2)
Post by: Grey Ninja on February 25, 2003, 04:26:18 PM
1) Final Fantasy VI/IV (Tie for first place)
2) Final Fantasy Tactics
3) Final Fantasy VII
4) Final Fantasy I
5) Final Fantasy V
6) Final Fantasy IIIj
7) Final Fantasy VIII
8) Final Fantasy IIj
9) Final Fantasy IX
10) Final Fantasy Mystic Quest.
AlphaDragoon, it would seem that you and I are wishing for exact opposites in Crystal Chronicle. I hope that through some miraculous act we are both pleased with the end result, but I really have to shake my head at your taste. There's just no accounting for it.
As for Secret of Mana on GameCube, word has it that Brownie Brown (makers of Seiken Densetsu (Mana)) series are working on a GameCube game. Maybe we will see something at E3?
Post by: RahXephon on February 25, 2003, 04:45:51 PM
Oh yeah, and i found no problem with any of the games gameplay. When i say i am a FF fan i mean it. It has been too long since i played the old ones so i can't remeber much, but i did play the japanese ones that werent released in america.
Anyway, that game better get on the shelves soon, and i mean it. I just pray for a good plot, with better characters.
Post by: Grey Ninja on February 25, 2003, 04:51:43 PM
I am about the most hardcore Nintendo fan you will ever meet. I do try to be fair though, and Xenosaga seriously has the potential to be the greatest game ever made. When I say that I have a desire to get a PS2 for that game, you better believe it's something special.
Regarding Final Fantasy IX however, I thought the characters were far too cliched and flat, and the story was laughable. I really don't know what you saw in the game.
Post by: RahXephon on February 25, 2003, 04:58:25 PM
But i know that the xenogear/saga's are supposed to be something speacial. And i need to play them. it is not a want, it is a need. My friend has ps2, and i told him i would buy him the games, if i could come over and play them now and then. So i am gonna do that. So that is that, i just LOVVEEEEEEEEE RPG's. Mario RPG was one of the best games ever.
Post by: Zeth on February 25, 2003, 06:08:43 PM
crazy nut!
Post by: RahXephon on February 25, 2003, 06:59:11 PM
Post by: Calibretto on February 25, 2003, 07:48:53 PM
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Originally posted by: theaveng
What does FF6 (akaFF3-US) have that FF7/9 do not? (just curious) I've played FF6 and it was a very good game, but I didn't think it was superior to FF7 or FF9. What does FF6 have that makes it so outstanding in your mind?
Also would you rate FF4 (akaFF2-US) beter or worse than FF7/9? (again just curious)
I haven't checked this topic in so long; this response may be a bit late, but here it goes. (hopefully the question was directed at me)
The main reason I liked FF6 over 7 and 9 was the story and characters. Gameplay wise I liked all the Final Fantasy games (except 8 wasn't my thing; too slow and monotonous for me.) FF6's story and characters were a good blend of deep and simple. There are magical beings, known as Espers, and an evil empire wants to suck out their magic to conquer the world. (That is the short version.) When FF7 went on the whole "save the planet/sprit of the earth" thing I was just waiting for Captain Planet and the planeteers to show up. And there were parts of the story that did not seem fleshed out or explained enough to me, such as the ancients and their origin and such.
The character's lacked the same charm that the old ones had in my opinion. Part of the problem is the newer Final Fantasies are moving to more movie like presentations, no longer presented in sprite animations and text boxes, but in cut scenes and such. This thematic direction is not a problem to me in and of itself, but it just throws the story of the game even further into the foreground, thus making the flaws or weak spots in the stories all the more visible and dissapointing. The newer generation of Final Fantasies just reek of the same crap they used to make the "Spirits Within" storyline. That was not a good movie story wise, and as the games become more akin to movies, that kind of thing won't cut it.
Post by: Sean on February 25, 2003, 08:37:32 PM
By the way, Grey Ninja, your FF list's number 1 was perfect. Call it nostalgia, but those two are the best. I simply cannot imagine appreciating Final Fantasy without adoring FF 2/4 and 3/6 (darn it, this gets complicated...haha). I'll never forget playing FF3/6 for the first time and seeing that beautiful, snowy mode-7 into as the city drew nigh and the best song Nobuo ever wrote faded in slowly, perfectly in-sync with the on-screen graphics. No polished cinematic Square has done since has matched that magic. If you ask me. Just thinking about it makes me want to boot it up again. I think I will, with the stereo up really, really loudly. FF6--best music of any videogame, period.
Post by: Grimlock on February 25, 2003, 09:46:38 PM
Post by: Grey Ninja on February 25, 2003, 10:48:28 PM
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Originally posted by: Sean
By the way, Grey Ninja, your FF list's number 1 was perfect. Call it nostalgia, but those two are the best. I simply cannot imagine appreciating Final Fantasy without adoring FF 2/4 and 3/6 (darn it, this gets complicated...haha). I'll never forget playing FF3/6 for the first time and seeing that beautiful, snowy mode-7 into as the city drew nigh and the best song Nobuo ever wrote faded in slowly, perfectly in-sync with the on-screen graphics. No polished cinematic Square has done since has matched that magic. If you ask me. Just thinking about it makes me want to boot it up again. I think I will, with the stereo up really, really loudly. FF6--best music of any videogame, period.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who still remembers the golden era, where Square ruled all.
RahXephon, might I suggest ePSXe? I finished Xenogears using it, and only had some minor problems. If your PC is up to the task, then it shouldn't be much problem. I can help you through the parts that crash the emulator. Trust me though, you can't go wrong by buying the discs if you can find them anywhere.
Post by: RahXephon on February 26, 2003, 05:13:20 AM
Anyway you guys see the new screen on the PGC Home Page. THERE ARE HEARTS. I don't think it is a wild guess to say that they are not hitpoints. I am starting to doubt that you lvl up in this game. Of course i still want it, but i will be terribly sad if i cant lvl up/
Post by: Hemmorrhoid on February 26, 2003, 06:19:22 AM
I really hope thats not the case, for the controls sake alone.
Ofcourse it would be a reason(on of thousands) to buy a GBA, but it could IMO hurt sales.
Post by: EggyToast on February 26, 2003, 06:53:36 AM
Post by: RahXephon on February 26, 2003, 07:00:50 AM
And as far as GC-GBA connectivity goes, i got the link cable early on, cause i knew there would come a time when i would need it.
And how can you NOT own a GBA. It has so many good games.
Post by: RahXephon on February 26, 2003, 07:16:25 AM
on the first pic, the girl in the top right is something like RISORYU, and on the bottom, RASUTIA. anyway, it has been a while sine i used Katakana, so i'm probably a bit of. However i looked up the words and they don't seem to exist. Soe ither a spell name or character name i would guess.
Post by: Hemmorrhoid on February 26, 2003, 08:28:58 AM
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Originally posted by: RahXephon
And how can you NOT own a GBA. It has so many good games.
Yes you can, and that is if you have a limited amount of money to spend, and rather invest that in a few cube games. Im gonna get a job though so I can buy a GBA SP but I really hope the controls wont suck, I dont want to play a 3d game with a D-Pad.
Post by: Grey Ninja on February 26, 2003, 11:30:54 AM
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Originally posted by: RahXephon
actually, through an extremely odd turn of events, i do own the discs for xenogears. An i am intrested in this ePSXe thing.
Well, head over to here and download ePSXe 1.5.2
head over here and get Pete's GPU plugins (1.68). Use the OpenGL plugin if you have an nVidia card, and the D3D if you have an ATI card. You can also pick up the CDR plugin if you wish. It's the one that I use, but the default one works pretty good too.
go here to get the Eternal SPU 1.20. It's about the best SPU plugin for ePSXe, and is also the one I use.
After you do that, you are all set to go, except for one thing. PM me if you need help with that, as it is not something to be discussed on this board. Once you do get it up and running though, I assure you that the picture quality is far better than you could ever expect to come up with on the PS2. The graphics are nice and crisp, and you can play with all kinds of cool settings to make everything look nice.
If you need help configuring your plugins, let me know, and I will help.
Post by: RahXephon on February 26, 2003, 11:52:16 AM
Post by: AlphaDragoon2002 on February 26, 2003, 02:42:41 PM
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Originally posted by: Grey Ninja
Since someone asked, I thought I would give a list of my favorite Final Fantasy games, in order.
1) Final Fantasy VI/IV (Tie for first place)
2) Final Fantasy Tactics
3) Final Fantasy VII
4) Final Fantasy I
5) Final Fantasy V
6) Final Fantasy IIIj
7) Final Fantasy VIII
8) Final Fantasy IIj
9) Final Fantasy IX
10) Final Fantasy Mystic Quest.
AlphaDragoon, it would seem that you and I are wishing for exact opposites in Crystal Chronicle. I hope that through some miraculous act we are both pleased with the end result, but I really have to shake my head at your taste. There's just no accounting for it.
As for Secret of Mana on GameCube, word has it that Brownie Brown (makers of Seiken Densetsu (Mana)) series are working on a GameCube game. Maybe we will see something at E3?
Why is there no accounting for it...? Just because I like the new FF games better? Don't get me wrong-I think FFIV (2 here in the US) is one of the best in the series, and FFV was awesome. I just hate FFVI, and I think most of the new FF's (except for IX) were superior to the older ones, especially FF Tactics and FFVIII. I guess it's just a difference in opinion, but it's known to happen.
BTW, I also think that Xenogears is the best RPG ever made.
Post by: rpglover on February 26, 2003, 02:58:34 PM
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Originally posted by: RahXephon
when i play an Rpg, i look for 1 very important element, story. To me the rpg is like a living anime epic. The story doesn't have to be huge, just well told. And out of the story, my favorite part is the romance involved. Like in FFIX, i thought Dagger and Zidan had the best example of an in game love story i have ever seen. I played the game through just to watch it develope. I smiled my biggest smile ever when the cutscene came where Zidan swung and saved Dagger. VIII also had an awsome love story. X's was ok, but I died alittle inside when Aries died in VII. However in answer to my favorite, I withhold an opinion. I think each game had a story that was worth playing to see. This is also why i put in the general post Grandia II on dreamcast as my fav game of all time. It's all about the story.
Oh yeah, and i found no problem with any of the games gameplay. When i say i am a FF fan i mean it. It has been too long since i played the old ones so i can't remeber much, but i did play the japanese ones that werent released in america.
Anyway, that game better get on the shelves soon, and i mean it. I just pray for a good plot, with better characters.
i agree with you all the way... grandia 2 had one of the better love stories told through an rpg
i really couldn't say what my favorite rpg is of all time though
there are many good ones but one that stands out is a very underrated game--- valkyrie profile
not only does it have one of the best battle systems of an rpg, the game has lots of depth
the story to some was not that great, but if you played through to get the best ending, it all gets tied together
the ever lasting love between lucian and platina really set the story
that game may have some of the best characterization in an rpg ever
enought about valkyrie though.... my top rpgs of all time are:
valkyrie profile, chrono trigger, grandia 1+2, final fantasy 6 (the best final fantasy), final fantasy 7, skies of arcadia, xenogears, and of course earthbound!
i think final fantasy cc looks pretty good- it really does look like a mana game
hopefully this is really how it works out
Post by: Calibretto on February 26, 2003, 06:09:28 PM
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Post by: snorgasmo on April 27, 2003, 12:59:37 AM
graphically, the game looks fantastic.. glad to see they kept the game in a fantasy realm as opposed to a more sci-fi realm like more recent FF games have been.. nevertheless, i can't help but feel disappointed that instead of getting an epic story driven rpg, we'll be getting a gimmicky and possibly quite shallow experience in crystal chronicles...
i'm gonna go ahead and make a few assumptions:
1) the game will be short..
2) the story will be thin
3) progress will be made in a linear path... go from point a to point b.. no REAL overworld map to explore...
4) gameplay will be simplistic.. there doesn't seem to be HP or MP.. there are heart containers for health, doesn't seem to be a magic meter... two-button control scheme.. no mention of character skill upgrading of any kind.. will there even be a status screen?
but i guess we'll hafta wait till e3 before we will know for sure...
Post by: Hemmorrhoid on April 27, 2003, 01:04:40 AM
and since when where FF games not linear? Sure, they werent really totally linear, but you always had a fixed path you could go on(but i might be wrong havent played much FF yet)
Post by: snorgasmo on April 27, 2003, 01:38:28 PM
as for the linear nature of the FF games, i don't think so.. you often had a whole world map to explore at your leisure... you were given hints of where you had to go next, but never was the path totally paved for you..
i really just hope this game has a good single player experience.. i like playing these games at my own pace... plus none of my friends really like rpgs
Post by: rpglover on April 27, 2003, 03:34:05 PM
it will have a decent story (nothing earth shattering)
the computer will control the other characters and people can just plug in a controller and press start to take control of the character
i would guess the game would be of an average length for an rpg (about 25-30 good hours)
and the game may have multiple paths
this is all speculation as i have not seen enough to make a good distinction
hopefully it will help in sales of gc's and bring square back to nintendo
Post by: Grey Ninja on April 27, 2003, 04:23:13 PM
Post by: Locke Cole on April 27, 2003, 04:32:03 PM
Post by: Grey Ninja on April 27, 2003, 04:33:42 PM
I know a few Sony/Square fanboys who are buying a GameCube just for this game.
Post by: Zelda on April 27, 2003, 04:38:50 PM
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Square could sell dog crap if they labelled it with the Final Fantasy name and included a CD with a bit of FMV
yeah, and if nintendo made a dog crap game w/ mario all the nintendo fanboys would buy it.
Post by: Locke Cole on April 27, 2003, 04:42:34 PM
Post by: EggyToast on April 27, 2003, 04:42:48 PM
I'm pretty sure both Square *and* Nintendo realize that releasing a game that requires 3 friends and an extra $280 or $400 investment wouldn't sell well at all. So I'd assume there most definitely would be a way to play, at the very least, 1 player w/o a gameboy (as there's no reason to hide stats then).
That said, the Secret of Mana game that made it out in the US had a very elegant menu system that never obscured the gamefield and still had a wide variety of items available. It wouldn't surprise me if FF:CC used a system similar to rings in order to keep the screen uncluttered and to keep down on programming time.
That likely means that there aren't a million different items that all do slightly similar things, but rather a few key items used for specific purposes. I personally liked the SoM way of dealing with items. Especially since most of the items in Final Fantasy games accumulate simply because you get better items but think that maybe you'll find a use for that old item because it has some special power until you beat the game and find that you just never used it again after all. I like Golden Sun's approach to items -- small items can be grouped up to 30, and large items are separate, and each player can hold a set amount. It makes you really think about what you want to keep and where you want to keep it. And it's certainly a bit more realistic...
Post by: joeamis on April 27, 2003, 10:21:22 PM
yeah, and if nintendo made a dog crap game w/ mario all the nintendo fanboys would buy it.
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actually mario sunshine wasn't seen as a big enough step up from mario 64 and it hasn't sold
well compared to Nintendo Gamecubes other major franchises
someone made a comment about the story being drivel, i would have to disagree,
the whole thing about the poisonous mist and all sounds very intriguing
Post by: Mario on April 27, 2003, 11:41:09 PM
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Square could sell dog crap if they labelled it with the Final Fantasy name and included a CD with a bit of FMV
A piece of sh!t wrapped in a ribbon is still a piece of sh!t.
Post by: Grey Ninja on April 28, 2003, 12:30:01 AM
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Post by: DRJ on July 09, 2003, 06:56:16 AM
Single player can have a regular controller.
cube.ign.com
Post by: Grey Ninja on July 09, 2003, 06:17:01 PM
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your point stinks.
Yes it does. It smells like crap. But explain to me the popularity of Final Fantasies 8 and 9 if you think I am wrong. Those game just sucked, but people bought them and loved them.
Post by: AgentSeven on July 09, 2003, 08:06:51 PM
As for the popularity of FF8+9, that will always be a mystery to me. Especially after suffering through the horrible ending of FF8.
Just my two cents
Post by: Zelda on July 09, 2003, 09:44:26 PM
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