Gaming Forums => Nintendo Gaming => Topic started by: Nile Boogie on October 14, 2004, 09:49:40 AM
Title: Metriod Prime 2: Ad Campagin
Post by: Nile Boogie on October 14, 2004, 09:49:40 AM
Any word on the style of the ad campain. Will it be in the style of "Who Are You", or will it be on a larger scale and scope.
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Post by: Rancid Planet on October 14, 2004, 07:25:43 PM
I haven't heard or seen jack squat on the matter. But Nintendo had better push this game hard. I'm talking a sales push the likes of which we haven't seen since....man Nintendo sucks at advertising. I can't think of a good example.
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Post by: King of Twitch on October 14, 2004, 08:00:43 PM
Yea a month away, and the sequels to some of the biggest selling games of the past generation are coming out at the same time. Do they know they're competing with them?
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Post by: Rancid Planet on October 14, 2004, 09:46:17 PM
You know, I don't think they do.
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Post by: Nile Boogie on October 15, 2004, 06:06:43 PM
There's seems to be a distinct lack of hype for a game of this importantace. Maybe the just didn't turn the hype machine on yet. With the Ds Launch and MP2 @ just about the same time maybe they will somehow link the two of them together to make a larger impact. Hopefully...
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Post by: nemo_83 on October 15, 2004, 09:23:28 PM
They are pushing Prime2 the same way the pushed Prime1. They are giving away a Metroid Prime DS game. Last time they released a GBA Metroid. I think the free game idea is a great idea, but it makes me wonder what they could do as far as a complete 3d Metroid on the DS.
Nintendo does need to launch an aggresive add campaign. The commercial will probably stick with the "Who Are You?" thing. In the Pikmin 2 commercial they used two guys, I believe in the MP2 commercial they should use four girls. Sell the sex like its Budweiser. They are competing with two very adult oriented games.
I have an idea for a DS commercial. People could be playing pool at a bar and someone has a DS. The ball could be hit into the corner pocket and the camera could follow it as it goes down the tracks inside the table. As the ball enters the darkness there is a subtle eddit to game play where Samus is in ball form in a pipe with wild lighting effects.
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Post by: Ian Sane on October 15, 2004, 09:25:53 PM
"Yea a month away, and the sequels to some of the biggest selling games of the past generation are coming out at the same time. Do they know they're competing with them?"
How much does Metroid Prime 2 really compete with those games though? Half-Life 2, Halo 2, Metal Gear Solid 3, GTA: San Andreas, etc. are not available on the Cube. Out of all of the big sequels for this Christmas the new Prince of Persia is really the only other one that's going to the Cube. For people who only own a Cube (which would thus be major Nintendo fans) Metroid Prime 2 faces very little competition. The only problem is regarding fans who own multiple consoles. I think the situation is far worse on the other two consoles though which each have at least two very high profile exclusives that are going to directly cut into each other's sales.
Still Nintendo should do some agressive advertising. Metroid Prime was considered by several web sites and magazines as Game of the Year 2002. That should be played up since in the world of marketing the sequel should be even better. It's a shame this game doesn't really improve the visuals much (at least compared to Halo 2). They had a huge chance to show of the first Metroid Prime's graphics in their ads since at the time it was one of the best looking games around. But they blew it. Still Metroid Prime 2 does look really great and I would show a lot of game footage in the ad. There's a stupid misconception that the Cube has weak graphic capabilities and a lot of that is likely because Nintendo "hides" game footage too much in their ads.
Oh and get whoever does the GBA ads to do the Metroid Prime 2 ads. It's completely idiotic for the GBA to always get the better ads when the Cube is the struggling system that needs strong marketing.
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Post by: KDR_11k on October 15, 2004, 10:32:11 PM
Available on the Cube means zero, I think the estimated percentage of Cube owners that own at least one of the other two onsoles is as high as 95%. I only have a gameworthy PC in addition to the Cube aqnd there's still plenty to choose from.
Me I don't care about Halo 2, HL 2, MGS3 or GTASA and only have slight interest in MP2 but I'm no average punter.
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Post by: cubiot on October 16, 2004, 05:41:36 AM
I was at my local EB games yesterday, when a lady from Nintendo came into the store. I am guessing she was a sales rep, but don't know for sure. I never got a chance to talk to her, but I was able to over hear her lengthly conversation with the store manager. Here is a summary.
She asked how pre-orders of Metroid Prime 2 were going. The reply was very, very poorly. We hope they pick up as the date nears.
She asked how did they compare to GTA San Andreas, and Halo 2. The reply was that those 2 games are out pre-ordering Prime by 20-1
She then asked about Paper Mario. He said first day sales were again much slower than expected.
She then asked about Tiger Woods 2005. SHe said I see you have a lot for PS2 and X-box. The reply was yes, we got about 25 of each, and 1, yes 1, copy for the cube.
The rest was simply sales rhetoric.
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Post by: KDR_11k on October 16, 2004, 06:58:41 AM
Sounds staged if you ask me.
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Post by: Nile Boogie on October 16, 2004, 08:24:26 AM
I just want a dope ad campaign. The 1st Metroid Prime had that 60 Sec. Live-action slash in game footage masterpiece that is second only to The Ocarina Of Time campaign from 1998. "Who Are You" just won't cut it for me this time.
Hype goes a long way. Sure its shallow but this is the days and times we live in.
PoP2, MGS3, Halo2, KillZone, GTA5, Mp2, HL2, GrandTurismo4 this a list of AAA titles, one console or 4 they are competing.
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Post by: mantidor on October 16, 2004, 03:41:03 PM
I watch a clip of the "who are you" campaign featuring Mp2, but thats all Ive seen. It was in nintendo's website.
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Post by: Deguello on October 16, 2004, 07:09:07 PM
"She asked how did they compare to GTA San Andreas, and Halo 2. The reply was that those 2 games are out pre-ordering Prime by 20-1"
Other than GTA, which is astounding if your anecdotal evidence is true, OF COURSE Halo will be pre-ordered more than MP2.
In addition to being the only game worth having on the Xbox this last quarter </fanboy> this game has quite possibly been the most hyped game in history, and it was available for pre-order since the end of 2002.
You know what? I'm tired of this horse race crap. I'm glad if some games sell well enough to make a profit, and saddened if they get neglected and forgotten like BG&E, but other than that I just do not give a damn.
In fact I just think this whole "gotta be number 1" crap is what is making some games become neglected. The next victim? I say PoP2. If you think PoP2 will sell a truckload this holiday, you will be sorely mistaken when it gets overlooked again for exactly the same reason as last year.
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Post by: KDR_11k on October 16, 2004, 09:56:22 PM
MP2 won't sell as well, of course. I mean, what is it? A semi-sequel, a game that uses pretty much the same graphics and gameplay as the previous one, just with the obligatory more weapons and more levels. Realy, I'm not hyped up for the game simply because to me it doesn't seem like something that new. I have MP already, what do I need Prime 2 for?
Halo 2 seems to be a bigger jump than Prime 2 and I heard San Andreas is getting PC zealots to convert to Sony. I still haven't found a single title I'm looking forward to this christmas season (not entirely true, I want Mario vs Donkey Kong, but that doesn't count as a major release).
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Post by: PaLaDiN on October 16, 2004, 11:01:16 PM
"MP2 won't sell as well, of course. I mean, what is it? A semi-sequel, a game that uses pretty much the same graphics and gameplay as the previous one, just with the obligatory more weapons and more levels. Realy, I'm not hyped up for the game simply because to me it doesn't seem like something that new. I have MP already, what do I need Prime 2 for?"
How about we wait for reviews and see if that opinion holds.
I doubt Retro's planning a cookie-cutter sequel. Just call it a hunch. If the Dark Suit is expendable information, I'm sure there's a lot more fancy stuff in there.
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Post by: KDR_11k on October 16, 2004, 11:39:07 PM
Well, preorders depend mainly on hype and to me the hype for MP2 is pretty much zero. Result? Few preorders.
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Post by: Renny on October 17, 2004, 08:32:57 AM
Are you telling me the ugly Metroid shirt isn't boosting pre-orders? Back to the drawing board, Nintendo.
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Post by: Ian Sane on October 17, 2004, 11:07:24 AM
"MP2 won't sell as well, of course. I mean, what is it? A semi-sequel, a game that uses pretty much the same graphics and gameplay as the previous one, just with the obligatory more weapons and more levels. Realy, I'm not hyped up for the game simply because to me it doesn't seem like something that new. I have MP already, what do I need Prime 2 for?
Halo 2 seems to be a bigger jump than Prime 2 and I heard San Andreas is getting PC zealots to convert to Sony."
How can you possibly say that Metroid Prime 2 is too cookie-cutter but GTA: San Andreas and Halo 2 aren't? The Halo franchise is cookie cutter. It's a total by-the-book FPS. GTA: San Andreas is going to be like Vice City: a very competent sequel that adds a few new things but ultimately plays the same. Metroid Prime 2 at least looks like it's trying to change things up with the light/dark world stuff.
All three sequels are going to play pretty similar to their predecessor and all three are going to add some new stuff to freshen things up a bit. It's quite unfair to accuse one of being too similar and not the other two.
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Post by: VideoGamerJ on October 17, 2004, 12:42:37 PM
I agree!
I'm hyped about Metroid Prime 2 Echos. Multiplayer! COME ON, this is going to be awesome. Besides, my favorite game of all time uses Light and Dark worlds. I'm sure you all can guess it.
As far as hype for the holiday seasons goes, I am all DS, I simply cannot wait.
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Post by: Chongman on October 17, 2004, 03:09:19 PM
Ok, just a few things
I'm not sure if linking like this is allowed...but whatever. Read this:
http://cube.ign.com/articles/557/557517p1.html
punks. There you go, that's what you can be looking forward too. Personally I think it looks awesome...much more satisfying than getting fat and killing innocent people in GTA. Cookie cutter sequel? Maaaaaaybe...but at least this one looks like it's got some awesome sprinkles...and missles that fire out of your arm cannon.
What a lot of people mistake metroid for is an action game. The metroid games have never been action based. They've always been exploration/puzzlers, you really cannot confuse it with anything else. I mean, not to downplay the awesome action in the game, that's just the root of the series.
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Post by: Renny on October 17, 2004, 05:24:15 PM
...the sequel to the now-classic 9.8-rated...
Cause you say so, IGN.
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Post by: PaLaDiN on October 17, 2004, 05:57:52 PM
"Cause you say so, IGN."
?
What's wrong with that?
By "9.8-rated", they obviously mean an implied "by us" in there.
By "classic", they obviously mean the kind of game only retards would hate.
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Post by: Rancid Planet on October 17, 2004, 10:58:42 PM
And by "sequel" they obviously mean that it's a continuation of a series...heh...I'm SMRAT!
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Post by: Aussie Ben PGC on October 18, 2004, 03:11:58 AM
Quote By "classic", they obviously mean the kind of game only retards would hate.
Then colour me retarded.
If I want to eat junk food (and get fat omg!1!! NNOVATION!) I'll do it in real life, thanks very much.
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Post by: KDR_11k on October 18, 2004, 06:02:43 AM
I think you got the context wrong.
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Post by: Nile Boogie on October 18, 2004, 07:29:13 AM
What in the blue-hell are you people going on about? Anyone who doesn't want Mp2 can simply post elsewhere. Thank you in advance for your understanding.
Now, where's my off-the-hook, live action, better than 02 ad campaign. Maybe the $40,000,000 they're spending on Ds launch is a straining the bugdet for Mp2. Ahhh kcuf ti, just gimme the game.
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Post by: PaLaDiN on October 18, 2004, 07:52:07 AM
"Then colour me retarded.
If I want to eat junk food (and get fat omg!1!! NNOVATION!) I'll do it in real life, thanks very much."
You can eat junk food and get fat in Metroid Prime?
Besides, before anybody gets offended, I was kidding.
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Post by: joshnickerson on October 18, 2004, 03:53:58 PM
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Post by: Nile Boogie on October 18, 2004, 04:32:03 PM
Well I just saw the teaser on MTV, and it was just that a teaser. "Scared of the dark...you will be 11.17.04". "Protect the light". 15secs. I thought it was alright for what it was.
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Post by: Mario on October 19, 2004, 06:07:40 PM
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Post by: Nephilim on October 20, 2004, 03:12:51 AM
the fact is that it will get hated on 1. because its nintendo 2. became fan boys of other systems dont want a game showing up there's
Anyway Im glad that this is less to do with metroids, as interviews have said because the most annoying thing in no.1 was rolling around with a metroid humping your ball every 10secs later in the game (if you were rushing)
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Post by: Bill Aurion on October 20, 2004, 03:28:03 AM
"the most annoying thing in no.1 was rolling around with a metroid humping your ball every 10secs later in the game (if you were rushing)"
I guess you've never played the other Metroid games have you? :\
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Post by: Renny on October 20, 2004, 10:42:26 AM
And by "9.8-rated," they obviously mean their reviews should be engraved in stone and placed infront of the developers' studios. The lack of comma further cements their intentions of defining classics for us.
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Post by: nolimit19 on October 20, 2004, 08:37:33 PM
i am starting to get psyched about this game...and the ad campaign is pretty good from my view. they had some good commercials during yanks bosox games.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 20, 2004, 10:06:30 PM
Was it only the short teaser commercial?
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Post by: cubiot on October 21, 2004, 08:08:14 AM
"they had some good commercials during yanks bosox games. "
I didn't see a single one up here in Canada and I watched every inning of every game.
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Post by: kennyb27 on October 21, 2004, 11:46:58 AM
Quote Originally posted by: Professional 666 Was it only the short teaser commercial?
That's the only one I saw during the games.
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Post by: Nile Boogie on October 21, 2004, 12:22:22 PM
Yeah it was only the teaser but its better when its not expected.
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Post by: bender on November 09, 2004, 09:43:13 AM
this pretty much says it all as fas as hype goes I searched for these on google, and what shoes is the number mentions I guess:
778,000 for metroid prime 2. 1,660,000 for gta:San andreas 5,000,000 for halo 2.
i tried "link:halo2.com" in google, and there were only 52 sites linking to it but when i tries "link:metroidprime2.com" there were no sites linking to it, makes sense, as the site isnt even up*
*I could be wrong about this as my flash plugin isnt workin so i cant get onto the nintedo site
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Post by: Hostile Creation on November 09, 2004, 12:47:35 PM
Well, Halo 2 is going to bring up a lot more non-game related results than either of the other two, particularly Metroid Prime. Or did you put it in quotations?
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Post by: Renny on November 09, 2004, 12:57:54 PM
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 09, 2004, 01:54:47 PM
You're supposed to visit metroid.com
no "2".
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Post by: Hostile Creation on November 09, 2004, 04:42:08 PM
Hey, soon as that "Iron Woman" commercial becomes available, someone let me know (assuming I don't find it first, and if I do I'll tell). I want to check it out.
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Post by: couchmonkey on November 10, 2004, 05:45:58 AM
I saw the Iron Woman commercial somewhere this week, but I can't remember where or when. Personally, I thought it was a lame sex appeal grab. By the time she's "covered" in metal, she still doesn't look like Samus...her face and I think her breasts were still sticking through the metal suit and the suit looks wrong and stupid and wrong. I think it's what you would get if you asked an advertiser who doesn't know anything about Metroid to make a "sexy" commercial for the game.
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Post by: Hostile Creation on November 10, 2004, 06:16:47 AM
How unfortunate. I'll still check it out, but too bad it wasn't ultra-awesome.
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Post by: 1day on November 10, 2004, 09:53:15 AM
Check out the commercial on Gamespot. I however, do think it is an ultra-awesome commercial!
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Post by: Hostile Creation on November 10, 2004, 11:29:03 AM
Is that the teaser or the one I was talking about? Though I suppose it doesn't matter, because Gamespot won't let me get past the FIRST PAGE DAMMIT.
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Post by: Mario on November 10, 2004, 03:16:57 PM
Looks good. Effective. Could have shown more gameplay footage but I guess it's okay.
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Post by: mantidor on November 10, 2004, 03:36:46 PM
argh, I cant download it, and with my crappy conection, I hardly see anything T_T, hopefully PGC will post the comercial to download some time soon.
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Post by: Hostile Creation on November 10, 2004, 03:56:13 PM
Okay, Gamespot freakin' sucks. I watched it, but damn do I hate streaming. Curse you, Gamespot.
Anyway, I thought it was great. The music was pretty good, the light/dark effect was an unexpected yet great surprise, and it was well done overall. Had her face sticking out, but I think that's part of the who are you thing. I didn't see any excessive breast sticking-out-ness, and believe me, I woulda noticed. For me, it didn't particularly appeal sexually, it was just cool looking. The suit looked fine, though not 100% Metroid, but how are you going to do that with scraps of metal flying onto her. It's only supposed to get the idea across. In short, I thought it was good, even if it was just a tad bit lacking in gameplay footage.
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Post by: mjbd on November 10, 2004, 04:28:26 PM
I like this commercial, I think its very differant from what nintendo usually does. The "who are you" ads were pretty good to, but this should really intrigue people.
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Post by: KDR_11k on November 10, 2004, 08:39:04 PM
It's impossible to have a transition between "naked" Samus and Samus in a suit, the suit's shoulders are proportioned so only a yeti would fit in there.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 10, 2004, 09:12:11 PM
the umm Proportional Power Suit always lies underneath. Getting the Varia Suit and such is like getting new Xmas tree ornaments.
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Post by: Berto2K on November 10, 2004, 09:20:06 PM
Notice the very selective camera angles they also used: thighs, butt, chest shots. They are doing little things that would attract the casuals to it.
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Post by: Renny on November 11, 2004, 02:05:35 PM
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Post by: Hostile Creation on November 11, 2004, 02:33:25 PM
Thanks, Renny.
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Post by: Bill Aurion on November 11, 2004, 02:53:03 PM
Very cool commercial...Stylish, great music, and just a plain good tease...
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Post by: mantidor on November 12, 2004, 12:08:39 PM
thanks Renny for the link, I watched it an I liked it nice commercial, which annoys me is that Ive seen the Halo 2 commercial in MTVLA but no Nintendo comercial T_T they were the only ones who used to make commercials for latinamerica, but now is Microsoft O_o