Gaming Forums => Nintendo Gaming => Topic started by: Pikkcuber on August 26, 2004, 05:04:43 PM
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Post by: Pikkcuber on August 26, 2004, 05:04:43 PM
You proably all heard of the massive number of good titles coming our way this christmas season. With Paper Mario, Mario Tennis,Viewtiful Joe2, Metroid Prime2, Mario Party 6, Mortal Kombat(not sure if its coming this year or not), and holdovers Pikmin 2,X-Men,Madden 2005 and get on the Mic and get on the floor seem kinda fun, along with the multitude of GBA games do you think Ninty is throwing to much at us at one time. And they still want us to purchase a DS. A teen like myself doesnt know what to do seeing he can proably only get 1 maybe 2 new games. Though there is something for everyone here, what do you guys think are they overloading us too much
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Post by: S-U-P-E-R on August 26, 2004, 05:08:13 PM
More like, topic overload
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Post by: Pikkcuber on August 26, 2004, 05:13:07 PM
you noticed that too, yeah im in a posting mood today i guess
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Post by: Bill Aurion on August 26, 2004, 05:16:48 PM
Jonny says there aren't enough games...Let's egg him! ^_^
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 26, 2004, 06:14:01 PM
Mario Tennis, Metroid Prime 2, Viewtiful Joe 2, all in the same month.
OH THE TORTURE.
YES, THAT'S GOOD, SNAKE. GIVE ME MORE.
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Post by: Flames_of_chaos on August 26, 2004, 06:33:32 PM
My wallet will be empty after I buy RE4 in 1/11/05 Oh well great videogame fixations.
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Post by: Bloodworth on August 26, 2004, 06:58:58 PM
Quote Jonny says there aren't enough games...Let's egg him! ^_^
CHICKEN HEAD will egg you.
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Post by: MattVDB on August 26, 2004, 07:15:38 PM
Darn college anyway. I don't get to buy any of these at launch. (I am thinking and pondering to see what I can do to get Prime 2 though. Always pondering) Think about it though, if you could wait one year all the money you would save. I've bought dozens of games at their launch, and IGN says I have some 250 dollars worth of stuff. That's really pathetic for the grand I've sunk into it...
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Post by: Bill Aurion on August 26, 2004, 07:25:38 PM
Quote Originally posted by: Bloodworth
Quote Jonny says there aren't enough games...Let's egg him! ^_^
CHICKEN HEAD will egg you.
Good thing I love Chicken Head! (Donkey Kong: Jungle Beat will be fantastic!)
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Post by: Mario on August 27, 2004, 03:42:34 AM
Quote Originally posted by: Professional 666 Mario Tennis, Metroid Prime 2, Viewtiful Joe 2, all in the same month.
OH THE TORTURE.
YES, THAT'S GOOD, SNAKE. GIVE ME MORE.
WHOA.
I'm going to move to the US just to experience this magical month.
(woohoo I hear Four Swords and Wario Ware are coming out soon guys! ... ;__; )
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Post by: WuTangTurtle on August 27, 2004, 06:49:12 AM
no wonder RE4 was set for next year instead of cramming itself into the holiday season. In my case i will definately be broke. I will indeed buy alot of DS stuff, system, games, accessories. Paper Mario seems to be the only game i will pick up due to saving up for the DS.
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Post by: Plugabugz on August 27, 2004, 07:05:35 AM
I'm only going to get Metroid Prime 2 this christmas - Everything else can wait for a while.
The DS being out in Europe in "2005" will leave me loads of time to save up.
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Post by: BlkPaladin on August 27, 2004, 07:30:35 AM
I have reserved over $400.00 worth of games and I'm still have to reserve the DS stuff.
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Post by: joshnickerson on August 27, 2004, 07:32:40 AM
Quote Originally posted by: ShaolinKilla no wonder RE4 was set for next year instead of cramming itself into the holiday season.
That was my thinking too. But try telling that to IGN. They make it look like the game is going to do terribly because it's not being released in the flood of games in November.
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Post by: BlkPaladin on August 27, 2004, 08:33:22 AM
You know this title is about as anticipated as WW was for the Gamecube, and it didn't hurt it to released in the off season. It accually probally helped it because there was nothing else competing for money.
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Post by: Ian Sane on August 27, 2004, 08:43:17 AM
I personally think that releasing a game in November is idiocy unless you have THE game for that console that everyone is anticipating. Otherwise you just get lost in the shuffle. Capcom is smart. They know that Metroid Prime 2 is the game for Cube owners this Christmas. They also know that with Cube owners that also own PS2s and Xboxes they have to compete with GTA: San Andreas and Halo 2. Why would you willingly compete with those three monster games? RE4 is going to stand alone when it's released and it will get all of the attention to itself.
If I made games I would release major titles in July. No one releases games during that time and people complain that there's no games to play during the summer. Seems like a perfect opportunity to me. Movies have summer blockbusters so why not games?
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Post by: KDR_11k on August 27, 2004, 09:05:24 AM
Even analysts say this is going to be the worst christmas slaughter ever. They predict that even major titles will take big hits due to the overcrowding and only HL2, Halo 2 and STALKER (okay, not sure on that last bit) are going to come out of this unscathed.
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Post by: couchmonkey on August 27, 2004, 10:41:21 AM
I think RE4 would have done really well this Christmas...Metroid Prime 2 is the only serious competition for it on the GameCube, although I won't deny that some of the other console titles like Halo 2 and Grand Theft Auto might hurt it. At any rate, I agree that releasing an unknown game at Christmas is not usually a good idea.
Is Mario Tennis really going to be ready for Christmas? I need that game. Personally, I'll be buying Pikmin 2, Paper Mario 2 and maybe a couple of the "weird" titles; everything else can go on my list or wait until next year.
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Post by: Hostile Creation on August 27, 2004, 07:42:02 PM
I'm at college and am thus far Cubeless. However, soon as a new game I want comes out. . . have no doubt that there will be a cube here, ready and willing and thoroughly played.
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Post by: Chongman on August 27, 2004, 07:50:28 PM
ninty has soooo many good games this winter....holy crap. If I had the money...gah...I might get one or two titles, but everything else will have to wait. I bet paper mario, mario tennis, viewtiful joe 2, and pop2 will all get shafted majorly....which is a TERRIBLE shame...
-off topic-
what other games besides gta is there on the ps2 this summer? i mean, giant, immense hits.
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Post by: WuTangTurtle on August 27, 2004, 07:59:02 PM
Hostile Creation get Tales of symphonia and CUBE while u can, currently Sony and Micro$oft have stopped shipments of systems in order to clear their warehouses (Nintendo did this already earlier) who knows whats gonna happen during the holiday season, PLUS! Tales of Symphonia out right rocks if you are into RPG's that is.
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Post by: Uncle Rich AiAi on August 27, 2004, 09:52:06 PM
The only game I'm interested that is being released in the US around xmas (read: not Australia) is Baten Kaitos.
Yes. Flame me all you want!
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Post by: Mario on August 27, 2004, 10:51:26 PM
Quote Originally posted by: Chongman ninty has soooo many good games this winter....holy crap. If I had the money...gah...I might get one or two titles, but everything else will have to wait. I bet paper mario, mario tennis, viewtiful joe 2, and pop2 will all get shafted majorly....which is a TERRIBLE shame...
Paper Mario and Mario Tennis will sell very well I think, Viewtiful Joe 2 should do as good as the first one did.
Oh yeah, and AiAi sucks.
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Post by: MattVDB on August 28, 2004, 12:19:41 AM
I just realized, REzero came out the same month and Metroid Prime did. Are there any numbers to show how well that game did or didn't do in its first month? It would be interesting to see, and figure if the game may have done better had it been released in the spring. Just a thought.
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Post by: Mario on August 28, 2004, 12:56:20 AM
Well it did ok, sold around 200k first month, i think, and its at well over 400k now. Also, RE2 launched in January and it's the highest selling RE game to date.
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Post by: Uncle Rich AiAi on August 28, 2004, 03:48:11 AM
Quote Originally posted by: Mario Oh yeah, and AiAi sucks.
Nintendo fanboys are hard to please!
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Post by: Bill Aurion on August 28, 2004, 04:14:40 AM
And it's Baten Kaitos, the least exciting of all of them...
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Post by: Bloodworth on August 28, 2004, 06:24:40 AM
*is more excited about Baten Kaitos than Tales of Symphonia or Paper Mario 2
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Post by: Chongman on August 28, 2004, 07:27:20 AM
The bloodworth has spoken! and all remain speachless...
MP2 is going to be the system seller for the holidays...
perhaps I'm just bitter about what happened last year. So many good titles, so little recognition. It really is a shame.
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Post by: Bill Aurion on August 28, 2004, 07:35:57 AM
*Gets shot down by Bloodworth for the second time in the same topic*
;_;
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Post by: Pikkcuber on August 28, 2004, 04:10:13 PM
Viewtiful Joe 2 will be a flop on the GC. There arent a lot of GC owners out there. The ones that are in the market will buy metroid, and paper Mario, and Mario Tennis. Viewtiful 2 doesnt add anything new to the mix and those other games are awesome. Espicially since Viewtiful's core audience is hardcore gamers and thsoe will be buying the DS, metorid,papermario, and saving for RE4
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Post by: KDR_11k on August 28, 2004, 10:36:18 PM
Of course VJ2 will flop, look at how "well" the first title did. There's no real market for hardcore, old-school, sidescrolling games.
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Post by: Uncle Rich AiAi on August 29, 2004, 01:59:15 AM
Quote Originally posted by: Bill Aurion And it's Baten Kaitos, the least exciting of all of them...
You prove my point. And let me remind you of 2 words: "personal" and "opinion". I forgot to add Prince of Persia: Warrior Within to my previous post. ^_^
Quote Originally posted by: Bloodworth *is more excited about Baten Kaitos than Tales of Symphonia or Paper Mario 2
I you Bloodworth!
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Post by: Bill Aurion on August 29, 2004, 05:07:26 AM
(hence the at then end of it...sarcasm ++!)
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Post by: Mario on August 29, 2004, 06:08:34 AM
Everyone buy Viewtiful Joe 2 please, on GC. Thanks.
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Post by: Flames_of_chaos on August 29, 2004, 06:56:16 AM
I hope Capcom gets shut down on their sales expectations on VJ on the PS2 side just for them to learn their lesson also I think Burnout3 and other titles will overshadow VJ and VJ2 on PS2 especially since both titles are released few months apart from each other.
EDIT: Also I heard PoP2 will be rated M Big LOL because I guess UbiSoft wanted to focus on the prince killing people via mutilating and decapitating them ehh(I think UbiSoft is following the violence sells formula) Im not really sure if I want to get PoP2 this time arround since I found PoP boring at times but dont get me wrong it was a good title maybe if UbiSoft does the same deal like they did for SplinterCell and PoP then I'll consider it.
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Post by: evil intentions on August 29, 2004, 10:45:06 AM
I'm looking forward to Paper Mario2. Viewtiful Joe 2 looks fun as well.
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Post by: rpglover on August 29, 2004, 07:21:25 PM
agrees with bloodworth
but i also want metroid prime 2 very badly
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Post by: KDR_11k on August 29, 2004, 08:37:51 PM
Lord die seis: Hm, so that's why NoE put PoP in their Adult section on some demonstration (I think it was on the GC, but I'm not sure)?
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Post by: Flames_of_chaos on August 29, 2004, 10:34:03 PM
Wow if NoE did that, I wonder what NoE will do to RE4?? But yeah I find it sad that UbiSoft stooped to that level since PoP wasnt really know for decapitating enemies but more of a stylish killings with less focus on the violence. Its sad that casual gamers flock to gory killings in videogames like sheep, and UbiSoft must think they will garner more sales with the formula.
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Post by: KDR_11k on August 30, 2004, 05:35:07 AM
I think they had RE4 in there, too. That might be because in Germany (if it was on the GC, but I think it was) age restrictions of 16 and over apply to kiosks as well and you have to make sure noone under 16 or 18 (depending on the game) gets to play (maybe even see) the game. The easiest way to make sure that never happens is to seal off an area and ask for people's ID cards. Hm, do violent movies get filed under "Adult" in the US too or do only pornographic movies get put there? (i.e. put into the adult sections of video rental places)
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Post by: Flames_of_chaos on August 30, 2004, 05:50:18 AM
They where just supposed to be on shelves higher but when I was 13 - 16 I bought Rated M (now branded M 17+) without a problem. The problem is 4 out of 5 retailers in America doesnt check age because their getting a sale no matter what.
EDIT: on the pornography in rental places some indy rental places just have a book you have to ask the employee for the title of the video and some other places are way way way in the back or their own small section in a seperate room. It depends how strict the retailer is. Games rated AO (Adults Only) are usually banned from retailers in America and its rare for a game to get that mark now a days the newest game to get a rating of AO is "Singles" from Eidos on the PC.
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Post by: ib2kool4u912 on August 30, 2004, 07:17:17 AM
Yeah KDR, 'Adult' is basically only used for pornographic movies, not violent ones.
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Post by: KDR_11k on August 30, 2004, 10:17:39 AM
Lord die seis: Funnily Germany's "strict" rating system filed Singles under "16 and over".
I know that getting an AO rating without nudity is practically impossible, Manhunt got rated M. The ESRB must be on crack or something.
Also I noticed our local rental place has the US version of Painkiller in the 18 section... And Deus Ex, too! (funny that they have Deus Ex but not Fight Club because it's too old...)
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Post by: Flames_of_chaos on August 30, 2004, 01:16:31 PM
Im surprised ESRB didnt force Rockstar/Take 2 Interactive to put a warning label on Manhunt for its content. I too sometimes question some of ESRB actions on rating games but for the majority they do a satisfactory job.
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Post by: Uglydot on September 05, 2004, 09:32:08 PM
Hmm, who would notice if I left school and used my student loans for GCN games...
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Post by: BlkPaladin on September 06, 2004, 07:29:40 PM
Unless you are using a third party for you student loans, you will never see that money since it usally goes stright to the school. And the bill collector comes in pretty fast after you leave/drop out of school if it is a governement sponsored loan.
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Post by: GoldShadow1 on September 07, 2004, 10:31:07 AM
I'll just wait until I can find them cheaper anyway, I'm in no hurry - I still have a bunch of older games I haven't got yet. Really, I wonder if Nintendo could make higher profits pricing games at $30. I know I would buy a hell of a lot more games new.
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Post by: MaleficentOgre on September 09, 2004, 08:12:57 PM
NO they wouldn't make a profit. They'd have to sell a lot more games at that price to break even. If they wanted to boost sells they could pull a sony and drop all first party games to $40 or even $45. That would not be a good idea either because third parties would have to drop prices even more in order to try and compete on gamecube.
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Post by: KDR_11k on September 10, 2004, 09:08:35 AM
They WOULD make a profit unless their manufacturing costs are higher than the sales price. However, they don't need to drop their prices for the games to sell.
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Post by: MaleficentOgre on September 12, 2004, 05:01:21 PM
Nintendo isn't making real money on the gamecube right now. Nearly all of their profits in the console market come from software sales. Software prices go down profits go down. profits go down new nintendo innovations go down. innovations go down nintendo goes down. my logic final.
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Post by: joeamis on September 12, 2004, 05:57:14 PM
I can't blame Ubisoft for what they're doing with POP2, considering the sales for POPST, I got the game last xmas myself, but it's gotten lost with all the other games I'm playing, but really noone bought it relative to other AAA games.
This year is truly the year of the games, after cutting the list of the game's I'd like to purchase to about 50% of what it was, I'm left with these titles to consider buying:
Pikmin 2- out ToS- out Star Ocean 3- out Burnout 3- out Demon Stone- Sept 14 Monster Hunter- Sept 21 Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne- sept 28 Choro Q- Oct 5 Midway Arcade Treasures 2- Oct 11 Paper Mario 2: TYD- Oct 11 Grand Theft Auto SA- Oct 18-25 Killzone- Oct 26 Neo Contra- Oct 26 ATV Offroad Fury 3- Nov 2 Lord of the Rings 3rd Age- Nov 2 Shadow of Rome- Nov 2 Fullmetal Alchemist and the Broken Angel- Nov 4 Mario Tennis- Nov 8 Gran Turismo 4- Nov 14-21? MP2- Nov 15 MGS3:SE- Nov 15 NFS UG2- Nov 15 Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga- Nov 16 Baten Kaitos- Nov 16 Call of Duty:FH- Nov 16 Goldeneye RA- Nov 16 Wild Arms: Alter Code F- Nov 19 Midnight Club 3- Nov 23 Flatout- Dec 7 Farcry: Instincts TBA 2004 Camelot RPG- TBA 2004
Good thing I don't own an Xbox, and beyond those titles, theres an equal amount I'd like to get next year already lol.
Resident Evil 4- Jan 11 Suikoden 4- Jan Timesplitters 3- Jan/Feb Champions: Return to Arms -Feb Starcraft Ghost- Feb XENOSAGA 2- FEB Killer 7- Feb 28 Geist- Mar 1 Star Fox 2- Mar 14 Advance Wars: UF- June 1 Fire Emblem GC- June 1 LOZ GC- June 1 errr.... Final Fantasy 12- winter 2005 Enthusia Professional Racing- 2005 Lunar 3- 2005 Rygar 2- 2005 Plague of Darkness- 2005 The Movies- 2005 Animal Crossing 2- 2005
And that doesn't even count the DS and the PSP, both of which I plan on getting, not to mention the gba lol! I can hear the Pink Floyd song, Money, playing in my head. Oh god and what about all the used games I'll find at Gamestop... god this is too much. Damn having to buy 3 birthday gifts, and an anniversary gift these last 3 months as well!!! DAMN!
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Post by: Chongman on September 12, 2004, 07:28:31 PM
a slaughter....
thats what this christmas is going to be....
gah...those about to die...i salute you...
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Post by: MaleficentOgre on September 12, 2004, 09:32:57 PM
I'm working as much as humanly possible now so that I can afford the new games and systems coming out by christmas. Speaking of PoP:tWW, I don't like that all my games are turning darker, but at least this one makes sense. I'm tired of games becoming darker just for the sake of becoming darker(Jak II) PoP:SoT was a pretty dark game in its own rights, I mean the prince's life should have been extinguished at the begining of the first game, it only makes sense that after being chased for so long that he would get real pissed go on a killing spree. At least he didn't start off hopping around and then majically pulling out guns and shooting things.
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Post by: KDR_11k on September 12, 2004, 10:07:16 PM
Christmas 2004 is going to be a publisher's nightmare, analysts predict that the only ones left standing will be Half-Life 2 and Halo 2. We have a 5x over saturation on the market coming up.