Post by: RCmodeler on August 11, 2004, 03:11:09 AM
I DON'T like games that allow you to change direction in mid-air (Mario). Okay yes I like Mario, but that aspect has always bothered me. You're a humanoid character, not a bird. In the real world when you jump off a cliff, you can't just turn around in mid-air. You drop to your death. Realistic jumps should be like Pitfall-style jumps...when you leave the ground, you're committed.
POWERSLIDES:I also don't like racing games that claim to be recreating reality (Daytona USA), but allow you to "slide" around corners. On dirt, yes, but on macadam? No Way. When the car loses traction, and the tires are squeeling, you're screwed. Time to kiss the wall.
ENDINGS: Games could end like many movies and novels do: Half survive. Half die. I'd be happy with that. One thing I liked about FF10 is that it was NOT a happy ending. 3 key characters ended up dead (okay ghosts).
STUPID PUZZLES: I'm in the middle of playing Wild Arms 3, fighting monsters, exploring, enjoying the story. And suddenly I have to stop all that, and go find a stupid cat. I've literally wasted HOURS on this damn cat, and it has *nothing* to do with the *reason* I bought the game (fighting/exploring/story). STUPID PROGRAMMERS. I don't buy RPGs to waste time chasing a stupid pussy around... so why the helll did you put it there?!?!? STICK TO THE CORE GAME. Don't add dumbass kiddie stuff like "chase the kitty" or "dress Cloud like a girl". I want battles/exploration/story. That's what I paid for. Save that other trash for the next Sims game.
TOO MUCH REALISM:
Get out of bed.
Dress.
Eat.
Work.
Repeat.
That's not a game. That's my boring life. I don't play games to live *another* boring life. I play games to escape it, experience excitement, and do stuff I can't do for real (like race NASCAR).
And finally: RESIDENT EVIL: S-L-O-W-L-Y OPENING DOOR/LADDER/STAIRS:
I agree this was a good solution to "disguise" the PS1's slow loading times, but why do they dontinue using this on the N64 carts and PS2/GameCube DVDs??? The room-to-room loading times are virtually non-existent with modern media.
This "style" should die. It just wastes the player's time. (And looks cheesy.)
Post by: Ms.Pikmin on August 11, 2004, 03:40:43 AM
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Post by: Mario on August 11, 2004, 03:45:05 AM
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I DON'T like games that allow you to change direction in mid-air (Mario). Okay yes I like Mario, but that aspect has always bothered me. You're a humanoid character, not a bird. In the real world when you jump off a cliff, you can't just turn around in mid-air. You drop to your death. Realistic jumps should be like Pitfall-style jumps...when you leave the ground, you're committed.
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TOO MUCH REALISM:
Get out of bed.
Dress.
Eat.
Work.
Repeat.
That's not a game. That's my boring life. I don't play games to live *another* boring life. I play games to escape it, experience excitement, and do stuff I can't do for real (like race NASCAR).
Hypocrite?
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I hate games with slow text scrolling. Like Zelda Ocarina of Time. Especially when I've died 100 times, and I want to skip the dialogue, but the game forces you to s-l-o-w-l-y re-read the same old stuff. I prefer the games with adjustable text speeds.
Luckily that isn't a problem in Wind Waker.
I agree with you about Resident Evil though.
Something that annoys me in games is... eh i cant think of anything right now.
Post by: Infernal Monkey on August 11, 2004, 03:46:30 AM
Post by: Shift Key on August 11, 2004, 03:54:25 AM
~ Hypocrites: People who have double-standards and cannot see past the end of their nose AT THE SAME TIME.
~ Ignorance: Apparently it's bliss. I wouldn't know.
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STUPID PROGRAMMERS
1. It was probably the designer, not the coder, who decided to put in that "chase the cat" sidequest.
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This "style" should die. It just wastes the player's time. (And looks cheesy.)
2. The door animations are still in the GC and PS2 versions. It won't die while optical media is in use. No matter how big the media is, there is always a delay from the time you open the door, to the time you end up in the next room. Don't blame the developers for this either.
Post by: Infernal Monkey on August 11, 2004, 04:01:10 AM
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Originally posted by: Shift KeyNo matter how big the media is, there is always a delay from the time you open the door, to the time you end up in the next room.
It is the future and there is time for... Door animations!
"BWUP BWUP BWUP BWUP, WAAAH!"
"Animation Wave!"
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on August 11, 2004, 04:12:47 AM
Any game that still has load time in this day and age is behind the times. This year, it should be abolished forever. People should get over the door thing in RE, though, I'm tired of hearing about it.
I strongly dislike putting in experience/levels in games that don't really need it. Which, IMO, is pretty much every game that isn't a tweaky statbastard of a game like Disgaea. I LOATHE the arcade version of SC2's Conquest almost as much as I do the people that exclusively play that mode.
I hate collecting items or finding hundreds objects to "100%" a game. That's a given for most of us, I'm sure.
Something that made me really angry about a couple certain Mortal Kombat games are depressing endings. Like, you kill everyone and reign supreme, but in the ending, your character dies anyway, or their writeup doesn't even place them as beating the boss? WTF? (Scorpion's MK DA ending was the worst ever)
Post by: Infernal Monkey on August 11, 2004, 04:25:19 AM
Post by: Jale on August 11, 2004, 04:32:56 AM
I also hate when people release games on Xbox, Gamecube, PS2 and GBA. Xbox GC and PS2 are okay, they are all pretty similar in the way they are presented, but GBA???? There is no way they are going to put effort into this and make it anything good. Its gonna be something that trys to be like the console games but will end up looking and playing worse than Lisa Riley in her nighty eating dung.
Post by: RCmodeler on August 11, 2004, 05:11:25 AM
QuoteYes, just like you can have too little beer (none) or too much beer (pass-out and die). The middle road is the best. i.e I want to drive a car that realistically portrays sliding off the track & hitting a wall, but I do NOT want to waste time visiting a restaurant before/after the race to make sure my driver is well-fed and healthy. (That is what GT: Sin City will be doing...stupid.) It's boring/mundane.
Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
particularly complaining about the lack of realism AND too much realism in games... -_-
As for Resident Evil's doors/stairs animations: (1) loading time on the N64 carts is zero. It wasn't necessary to insert the animations...waste of gamers' time. (2) Loading times on PS2/GC are less than a second... again, no need to insert those stupid animations. IMHO if Metroid Prime can provide a smooth transition, so too can/should Resident Evil Zero.
Post by: couchmonkey on August 11, 2004, 07:16:17 AM
Here's my tiny pet peeve: games where they couldn't be bothered to make the music loop correctly. It really takes me out of the game (and kills the music) when a song ends and then abruptly starts all over again from the beginning.
Post by: DrZoidberg on August 11, 2004, 09:18:09 AM
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POWERSLIDES:I also don't like racing games that claim to be recreating reality (Daytona USA), but allow you to "slide" around corners. On dirt, yes, but on macadam? No Way. When the car loses traction, and the tires are squeeling, you're screwed. Time to kiss the wall.
August is drifto month.
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on August 11, 2004, 10:48:21 AM
. EDIT: But the biggest thing that annoys the hell out of me are the SUPER DE DUPER EVIL NESS CALLED PASSWORD SAVE . Sorry I had to get that out of my system.
Post by: Deguello on August 11, 2004, 10:55:19 AM
Naw you shouldn't hate that. "Hundred percenting" should always be optional and you should get some cheezy reward for it. It's when they say "OK Get 40 chartruse bog bananas to get past a door to the next level that you should get the irk for.
Post by: joshnickerson on August 11, 2004, 02:37:47 PM
I hate ice levels. I hate the way they always have slipperly floors that totally knock you off your game and send you plummeting into pits and off the sides. I hated World 6 in Super Mario 3. I hated the Ice temples in Ocarina of Time and Wind Waker. And I hated climbing that damn snowman in Super Mario 64! GRAHHHHHHHHH!!!!
Well, I guess I can tolerate them okay, but most likely, once I get through those levels I won't be coming back through.
Post by: DrZoidberg on August 11, 2004, 04:51:05 PM
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Post by: Shift Key on August 11, 2004, 06:12:43 PM
QuoteI'd agree with you, but there are some movie games which are going agains this trend. But yeah, most of the film licensed movies are rushed jobs.
I hate games that are film licences and are purely money beehotches. Most people do.
However, I saw a preview for a game based on The Punisher in EB recently. When they showed Frank Castle interrogating people in creative ways, such as pulling down a fire escape ladder to pin a guy, and threatening another guy's groin with a bandsaw, I got very interested. I also hoped that this game doesn't suck when it does come out
Here's a snippet from a Gamespy preview:
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One had The Punisher pointing a foe's head towards a rotating Gattling gun. He would dip his target's head towards the gun as he questioned him. It was cool watching the baddie violently tremble with fear. It was even cooler letting his head totally ram into the gun.
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on August 11, 2004, 07:11:55 PM
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Post by: S-U-P-E-R on August 11, 2004, 08:54:34 PM
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Originally posted by: RCmodeler
POWERSLIDES:I also don't like racing games that claim to be recreating reality (Daytona USA), but allow you to "slide" around corners. On dirt, yes, but on macadam? No Way. When the car loses traction, and the tires are squeeling, you're screwed. Time to kiss the wall.
Der derrr de durrr durrrp
http://www.onewest.net/~superty/ae86.wmv
Post by: Infernal Monkey on August 11, 2004, 08:54:39 PM
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Originally posted by: RCmodelerAs for Resident Evil's doors/stairs animations: (1) loading time on the N64 carts is zero. It wasn't necessary to insert the animations...waste of gamers' time. (2) Loading times on PS2/GC are less than a second... again, no need to insert those stupid animations. IMHO if Metroid Prime can provide a smooth transition, so too can/should Resident Evil Zero.
Shadowgate 64 had to load, too. Because it was so very awesome. MORE awesome than Blues Brothers 2000 and Duel Heroes combined. MORE. Also, what's this about one second loading times on PS2 and GC? Rent out Quake III Arena on PS2, it can take up to two minutes to load.
Post by: DrZoidberg on August 11, 2004, 09:40:35 PM
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Originally posted by: S-U-P-E-RQuote
Originally posted by: RCmodeler
POWERSLIDES:I also don't like racing games that claim to be recreating reality (Daytona USA), but allow you to "slide" around corners. On dirt, yes, but on macadam? No Way. When the car loses traction, and the tires are squeeling, you're screwed. Time to kiss the wall.
Der derrr de durrr durrrp
http://www.onewest.net/~superty/ae86.wmv
that isn't realistic, if it was real he'd smash into a wall while singing DAAAAAYTONNNNNNNNAHHHHHHHHHHH.
for expert drifto watch the 54th second and onward, that part is amazing am i rite
august is drifto month
Post by: ABlueflameA on August 12, 2004, 05:04:53 AM
I also dislike, as someone else stated, having to watch a cutscene or go through dialogue a second (or third, fourth or 5th) time after dying. You should ALWAYS be able to skip past a dialogue/cutscene/FMV if you want to.
Oh, I just remembered: Cheap-ass computer opponents! They cheat! I swear! Just go play Mario Kart on Gamecube at 150cc or mirror mode in Grand Prix. You can have as big a lead in first as you'd like, but then you're gonna get hit by 5 spiny blue shells, 4 red shells, a giant koopa shell, and then when ALL the computer opponents pass you they'll all drop banana peels and fake item boxes. When I'm in last place I get bananna peels and green shells. What the hell? There are 100's of other examples of cheap computers, how I hate thee!
-Blue
Post by: evil intentions on August 12, 2004, 08:23:38 PM
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I hate it when games suck. That's really annoying.
*Sigh* Don't we all hate it when games suck.
Post by: Smashman on August 12, 2004, 08:31:10 PM
Post by: King of Twitch on August 12, 2004, 09:21:23 PM
flashing graphics (Atari Pacman)
having to pause and switch items all the time (Zelda)
not having any items (3D Marios)
any type of collecting
AHG I hate just reading the word DAAAAAYTONNNNNNNNAHHHHHHHHHHH
oh well more later maybe
Post by: Shift Key on August 12, 2004, 09:51:41 PM
QuoteOIC
AHG I hate just reading the word DAAAAAYTONNNNNNNNAHHHHHHHHHHH
DAAAAAYTONNNNNNNNAHHHHHHHHHHH
DAAAAAYTONNNNNNNNAHHHHHHHHHHH
DAAAAAYTONNNNNNNNAHHHHHHHHHHH
August is drifto month
QuoteBLASPHEMY. I DEMAND YOU REMOVE CRATES FROM THERE. CRATES ROCK. GOLDENEYE WOULD HAVE BEEN HALF AS GOOD WITHOUT CRATES!!!!
I'm really starting to hate block/crate/box puzzles.
Post by: odifiend on August 13, 2004, 04:58:43 AM
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Originally posted by: ABlueflameA
I also dislike, as someone else stated, having to watch a cutscene or go through dialogue a second (or third, fourth or 5th) time after dying. You should ALWAYS be able to skip past a dialogue/cutscene/FMV if you want to.
-Blue
While I agree for the most part, it sucks when you accidently skip a cut scene- in MGS2, when Solidus and Ocelot are talking, i was all like talk faster and was pressing buttons. The cutscene ended to my dismay
. DAMN you, Kojima, for thinking of us!!!11!
Post by: RCmodeler on August 13, 2004, 07:59:32 AM
QuoteCarts don't have loading times. They are memory...instantaneous. There's no excuse for door/stair animations in RE2 on the N64.
Originally posted by: Infernal MonkeyQuoteShadowgate 64 had to load, too. ;
Originally posted by: RCmodelerAs for Resident Evil's doors/stairs animations: (1) loading time on the N64 carts is zero. It wasn't necessary to insert the animations...waste of gamers' time. (2) Loading times on PS2/GC are less than a second... again, no need to insert those stupid animations. IMHO if Metroid Prime can provide a smooth transition, so too can/should Resident Evil Zero.
And DVDs, it might not be a second, but it's short enough that the 10 second door/staircase animations are not necessary. When you walk room-to-room in Eternal Darkness, there's no stupid animation. If ED can do it, so too can RE.
Post by: GoldShadow1 on August 13, 2004, 05:33:14 PM
Post by: Myxtika1 Azn on August 14, 2004, 03:04:09 AM
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Originally posted by: RCmodeler
Carts don't have loading times. They are memory...instantaneous.
Have you ever played Street Fighter Alpha 2 on the SNES? It has load times up the ass!
Post by: Infernal Monkey on August 14, 2004, 03:32:18 AM
Post by: enigma487 on August 14, 2004, 10:04:07 PM
and speaking of control, my pet peeve in video games is when control is relative to a character, and not to the screen. a friend of mine tried to get me to play Galerians on PSX one time, i quit before i got out of the first room. if i want to walk to the left of the tv screen, i'm going to press left, not forward so the character walks forward. %#)*&$&*#%$*!!!!!!!
Post by: evil intentions on August 15, 2004, 07:43:27 PM
Post by: RCmodeler on August 16, 2004, 03:41:14 AM
QuoteIt has lots of built-in pauses by the programmer to achieve an effect... those are not loading events. Cartridge memory is instantaneous from the human point-of-view. There's no such thing as waiting with a cart.
Originally posted by: Myxtika1 AznHave you ever played Street Fighter Alpha 2 on the SNES? It has load times up the ass!
So given that a cart has no loading time, the "loading screens" in RE2 for the N64 were not necessary.
Post by: KDR_11k on August 16, 2004, 04:07:25 AM
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Post by: RCmodeler on August 17, 2004, 03:17:10 AM
And, I still don't see why these door/stair animations are needed for RE on DVD consoles. Eternal Darkness, Metroid Prime, Final Fantasy, yada yada yada.... they don't need them. Neither should Resident Evil. It just looks cheesy.
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Post by: Infernal Monkey on August 18, 2004, 12:58:50 AM
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Originally posted by: RCmodeler
Considering that RE2 is the *only* N64 game with full motion videos, I don't think "the prgorammers didn't know what they were doing" is an accurate statement. Clearly they pushed the boundaries further than anyone else.
Nup, Gex 3 and Starcraft 64 also had full motion video.
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Post by: Forte on August 19, 2004, 09:10:11 PM
10) I hate time limits (specifically the ones that give you like 30 seconds to complete something...Majora's Mask didn't
bother me as much)
9) I hate stealth missions (James Bond games suck now because of the levels with the no-kill policy)
8) Non-related missions (Missions that you have to do that has nothing to do with the outcome of the game)
7) Slow games (Not really a problem anymore)
6) Playstation and X-Box games (Yes, including Halo for X-Box and Kingdom Hearts and Final Fantasy for PS2)
5) Games with too many button to pay attention to (I think Red Faction for PS2 was the game that really ticked me off
about this for the first time back in 2000)
4) Easy games (Don't make me pay $50 for a game I can beat the same day...Yoshi's Story...)
3) Slow loading times...get with the times (I especially target PS2 and the game Turok)
2) Long, boring cut scenes (In Chrystal Chronicles...possible spoiler...that very last boss in the game after you get the
like neutral element, you know, that boss. Well, his 3rd or 4th form where he sucks up your family, I've died on him
maybe 2 times, but I spent about a fricken' hour in a half watching the cut scene before it. Also, the lame Lord
of the Rings games make you watch long parts of the movies again before every level. If you die, you have to
watch it again. They didn't even bother letting you skip the scenes. Waste of time)
1) Games that think they are funny, but are stupid (I really hate lame humor like Blue Collar TV. It's stupid. I think
of these games like this one that is based off of an Adult Swim on Cartoon Network show with a dancing meatball.
What the heck? I also thought Veutiful? Joe was stupid. I hate lame humor)
Post by: KDR_11k on August 19, 2004, 09:49:51 PM
Post by: Mario on August 19, 2004, 10:38:28 PM
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I also thought Veutiful? Joe was stupid. I hate lame humor
You're stupid.
Post by: odifiend on August 20, 2004, 04:45:21 AM
What the heck? I also thought Veutiful? Joe was stupid. I hate lame humor)'
GASP. If you don't like Aqua Teen Hunger Force, you have no soul.
Post by: DrZoidberg on August 20, 2004, 05:06:27 AM
Also, I think you entirely missed the point of Viewtiful Joe, It's a game centered around a movie / being in a movie, the cheesy lines / comedy were intentional. Also, you spoke ill of Yoshi's Story, so I hate you
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