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Title: No DS Games from Rare
Post by: D-Mac Double on August 10, 2004, 09:48:10 AM: I'm suprised no one else has mentioned this yet.
Check the note at the bottom of MagicBox's DS Game List

Well, there go the chances of a Killer Instinct port to DS....

Edit: They were wrong, I suppose.
Title: RE: No DS Games from Rare
Post by: Bill Aurion on August 10, 2004, 10:48:34 AM: That is now, but how about in the future?
Title: RE:No DS Games from Rare
Post by: Canada on August 10, 2004, 02:30:08 PM: big deal rare is gone they ain't coming back i ain't going to miss them
Title: RE:No DS Games from Rare
Post by: Chongman on August 10, 2004, 02:43:42 PM: Who knows?

More likely that Rare will support the DS in the future than PSP...since we all know how much microsoft hates Sony.

I think it'll come eventually...providing the DS is a success....here's to hopin!
Title: RE:No DS Games from Rare
Post by: StrikerObi on August 11, 2004, 09:38:51 AM: Quote
Originally posted by: Canada
big deal rare is gone they ain't coming back i ain't going to miss them

Oh yeah, except that they never left GBA development. They still make GBA games.

Also, I could care less because frankly I don't think a touch screen would make collecting 5 zillion bafmodads any more fun.
Title: RE: No DS Games from Rare
Post by: Deguello on August 11, 2004, 12:26:23 PM: And really, even if they announced anything, I doubt we would see it until 2007.

I mean it even took them 2 years to released a completed GBA game...
Title: RE: No DS Games from Rare
Post by: couchmonkey on August 11, 2004, 12:45:28 PM: I will play them and they will be fun. I think Rare will develop games for the DS, Microsoft wants to keep Sony from controlling the entire industry, because once it does, it will be too hard for Microsoft to control the entire industry.
Title: RE: No DS Games from Rare
Post by: Lost101 on August 18, 2004, 07:45:37 PM: Rare hasnt released a single good game since Star Fox Adventures, and even that was iffy. I used to be a big fan of Rare and thought that when MS bought them it was really gonna suck... but I havent really felt like I missed out on anything. Their last GREAT game was conkers bad fur day, and they are already remaking it
Title: RE:No DS Games from Rare
Post by: PoopyLoopy on August 19, 2004, 10:38:48 AM: Hahaha
Title: RE: No DS Games from Rare
Post by: thepoga on August 21, 2004, 04:53:35 PM: Rare is no more. Free Radical is made up of the people who made Rare great. Rare lost it's magic way before star fox adventures.
Title: RE:No DS Games from Rare
Post by: Chongman on August 21, 2004, 05:04:46 PM: it's not a remake

and apparently it looks to be uber sweet....but then again....we'll just have to wait and see
Title: RE: No DS Games from Rare
Post by: Berto2K on August 21, 2004, 10:48:31 PM: Graphically the new Conker for Xbox looks amazing having seen it first hand. I never played the one for n64, so I'll stear clear of gameplay comments ^_^.
Title: RE: No DS Games from Rare
Post by: Bill Aurion on August 22, 2004, 05:36:03 AM: "it's not a remake"

The single-player mode sure is...It's the multiplayer that's being completely revamped...
Title: RE: No DS Games from Rare
Post by: KDR_11k on August 22, 2004, 08:51:00 PM: Wasn't the MP mode something like Battlefield: Vietnam?
Title: RE: No DS Games from Rare
Post by: odifiend on August 23, 2004, 02:07:32 AM: It had a bunch of multiplayer modes.
They had teddez vs. french squirrels (kinda like nazis vs. the french).
They had a bank vault stage where everyone is a weasel and trying to steal loot (my favorite!).
They had deathmatch modes where everyone is given weapons and they duke it out.
There was also tank competition where the goal was to release something like mustard gas then get back to safety.
That's all I remember, but there could be more.
Title: RE: No DS Games from Rare
Post by: Bill Aurion on August 23, 2004, 02:27:10 AM: AKA

Beach
Heist
Deathmatch
Tank
Raptor
War/Colors
Title: RE: No DS Games from Rare
Post by: MaleficentOgre on September 09, 2004, 10:22:45 AM: Rare is an amazingly talented group of people. Their problen is it takes them five years to make game without nintendo being there saying hurry the F up. People don't know this but conker was suppose to come out last year, I'm pretty sure around summer time, but rare hit some snags and decided to just not announce its release day. Trust me Rare will develop for the DS, and chances are they are developing now. Microsoft doesn't want nintendo fanboy's getting happy about anything. It would aslo be very stupid for them to annoucne support now when they won't put the game into full development until at least february or march of next year. They're putting all of their effort into conker and its mister pants, more so conker than anything because that's their breadwinner.
Title: RE:No DS Games from Rare
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 07, 2005, 06:58:36 AM: New job listing at Rare Ltd.
Quote
EXPERIENCED 3D ARTISTS (NINTENDO DS)
Good understanding of 3D packages (preferably Maya), strong modelling and texturing abilities, imagination and motivation are all required from anyone hoping to join our Develop award-nominated team in creating key DS titles.

GAMES PROGRAMMERS (NINTENDO DS)
Must be motivated, enthusiastic and skilled in C/C++ to join our dedicated handheld team, recently nominated for a Develop Industry Excellence Award. 3D skills also an advantage in creating high-profile titles for this unique system.

From their website rareware.com
goto "Join Us"
then "Software"
and "Artist"

Here comes the ports!!!!with upgrades?

Killer Instinct
Banjoe Kazooie
Blast Corps?
Diddy Kong?
dare I say GoldenEye?
Perfect Dark
Conker BFD?
Donkey Kong 64?
did I miss any?

*all games completely unconfirmed
Title: RE: No DS Games from Rare
Post by: Ian Sane on July 07, 2005, 07:09:49 AM: Pretty much every Rare N64 game made extensive use of the analog stick. We might get a bunch of ports but they're probably not going to be all that great. Touchscreen analog control = teh suck.

I think Rare should stick to making original handheld games since that's pretty much the only thing they did right this last gen.
Title: RE:No DS Games from Rare
Post by: Arbok on July 07, 2005, 07:16:12 AM: Quote
Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
Here comes the ports!!!!with upgrades?

Killer Instinct
Banjoe Kazooie
Blast Corps?
Diddy Kong?
dare I say GoldenEye?
Perfect Dark
Conker BFD?
Donkey Kong 64?
did I miss any?

*all games completely unconfirmed

You'll never see Donkey Kong 64 again from Rare... as for myself, the only games I would like to see re-released on the DS there are Perfect Dark (unlikely) and Goldeneye (very unlikely)... although I would kill someone for a KI game on the DS. I want one where I can finally play both Raptor and Kim Wu, god damn it! I don't care if Raptor's dead, he was still bad ass.
Title: RE:No DS Games from Rare
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 07, 2005, 07:27:36 AM: I put ??? marks next to games that they made that I thought were unlikely(or not possible).

I also heard a rumor that Rare was playing around with PD on the DS and actually had (a) level(s) up & running. Who to say they never continued on that project? If said rumor was true that is........
Title: RE: No DS Games from Rare
Post by: Draygaia on July 07, 2005, 07:29:57 AM: I think in the long run Rare might really show something. I didn't really see Rare blast off on the NES, and on the SNES you got KI and DKC, and then the N64 is when they finally gunned us down with their games.

Personally other than the shooting games and even few others I don't think there was a Rare games that wasn't strongly influenced by a Nintendo games. Rare's best bet are their shooting games, but when I look at Xbox 360 you're getting Perfect Dark, Quake, Halo, Ghost Recon, Half-Life, etc Oh gosh where is the improvement?
Title: RE:No DS Games from Rare
Post by: hudsonhawk on July 07, 2005, 07:33:32 AM: Quote
Originally posted by: Ian Sane
Touchscreen analog control = teh suck.

I thought you didn't have a DS? What's your basis for this opinion, hearsay?

Touchscreen analog control works suprisingly well. Mario DS controls almost as well with the thumbstrap as it does with the analog stick.
Title: RE: No DS Games from Rare
Post by: Draygaia on July 07, 2005, 07:43:14 AM: I think its more like people just simply prefer a joystick feel or want more control, other than that I just simply have to shift my thumb in the direction the character wants to go. Its like controling a mouse where you hit the scroll-button and you just push it a little bit up, down, left or right and it just moves. It the closes thing to mouse and keyboard control. I complain that up until now mouse and keyboard haven't been the norm for consoles. They're great for FPS, Meteos, point and click, PC style games, etc

Joystick for FPS or in general moving some cursor = teh suck

Free Radical actually pulled the FPS control pretty good for the GCN control pretty well but its still not mouse and keyboard
Title: RE: No DS Games from Rare
Post by: KDR_11k on July 07, 2005, 08:24:06 AM: hudsonhawk: No because it's impossible to judge where the center of the virtual analog stick is and therefore you're usually moving into some random direction instead of standing still when you try to center quickly.

Perfect Dark might actually have a steady framerate on the DS, that plus touchpad "mouselook" == potential megaseller. They might decide to make a new FPS instead but the DS is clearly the best platform for console FPSs.
Title: RE:No DS Games from Rare
Post by: Bill Aurion on July 07, 2005, 08:34:46 AM: Quote
Originally posted by: Ian Sane
Touchscreen analog control = teh suck.

Sounds more like a "You suck at touchscreen analog control" issue to me...
Title: RE: No DS Games from Rare
Post by: Spak-Spang on July 07, 2005, 08:45:02 AM: I don't need Rare. I am having a great time with my DS without them.

Would they possibly make a good game. Maybe, but I can wait for Metroid Hunters for my FPS fix on the DS.
Title: RE: No DS Games from Rare
Post by: 1day on July 07, 2005, 08:54:06 AM: check out Rare's main page at the bottom to find out that:

"VACANCIES

EXPERIENCED 3D ARTISTS (NINTENDO DS)
Good understanding of 3D packages (preferably Maya), strong modelling and texturing abilities, imagination and motivation are all required from anyone hoping to join our Develop award-nominated team in creating key DS titles.

3D ARTISTS
Must have imagination, motivation and a natural flair for creating detailed environments, characters or animation. Strong creative and technical abilities essential; previous experience with 3D packages (including Maya) advantageous. "
Title: RE:No DS Games from Rare
Post by: hudsonhawk on July 07, 2005, 09:12:39 AM: Quote
Originally posted by: KDR_11k
hudsonhawk: No because it's impossible to judge where the center of the virtual analog stick is and therefore you're usually moving into some random direction instead of standing still when you try to center quickly.

Right, that's why when you need to center quickly you just lift your finger off the touch screen. Voila, it's centered.

Quote

Perfect Dark might actually have a steady framerate on the DS, that plus touchpad "mouselook" == potential megaseller. They might decide to make a new FPS instead but the DS is clearly the best platform for console FPSs

It would be huge and a good way to reinvigorate the PD franchise, in anticipation of PD0 coming out.
Title: RE: No DS Games from Rare
Post by: D-Mac Double on July 07, 2005, 11:01:18 AM: I suppose this thread's title will need an additional "w" now.
Title: RE:Now DS Games from Rare
Post by: thepoga on July 07, 2005, 11:47:15 AM: Quote
Originally posted by: hudsonhawk
Quote
Originally posted by: Ian Sane
Touchscreen analog control = teh suck.

I thought you didn't have a DS? What's your basis for this opinion, hearsay?

Touchscreen analog control works suprisingly well. Mario DS controls almost as well with the thumbstrap as it does with the analog stick.

no.

But to respond to Ian, Perfect Dark and Goldeneye would work well obviously with the DS. Even better than the console versions probably.
Title: RE:Now DS Games from Rare
Post by: Blackknight131 on July 07, 2005, 06:11:52 PM: Quote

Perfect Dark might actually have a steady framerate on the DS, that plus touchpad "mouselook" == potential megaseller. They might decide to make a new FPS instead but the DS is clearly the best platform for console FPSs.

You forgot the key ingredient that would really make it explode: Wifi Network support. Whoever can get out a good solid FPS that can be played over Nintendo's forthcoming network will be richly rewarded.
Such a game is a good number of months off however, now that we know Hunters will not have the support.

It certainly could be Rare tho....still, seeing how the ad depicts Banjo, perhaps that is their hint. Rare does so love to be clever sometimes...
Title: RE: Now DS Games from Rare
Post by: Stimutacs Addict on July 14, 2005, 06:51:00 AM: i want to use my DS as my camspy in PD0 damnit! that was practically a guarantee when PD0 was supposed to come out on the GCN.

also, Touchscreen analog control requires one simple thing: discipline. You have to know where you placed your finger and limit your movement to the target zone. once you start sliding everywhere it gets a little hairy, but guess what: if you cant control your thumb, stay out of the kitchen (aka you suck at teh life)
Title: RE: Now DS Games from Rare
Post by: KDR_11k on July 14, 2005, 07:15:10 AM: It's good as long as the center stays where it was and doesn't move around just because you've moved the "stick" further than maximum. That's like having your analog stick decalibrate when you touch the frame. Imagine playing SSBM and having to stop your move exactly at the edge of the movement radius...

Besides, it's a FPS, you don't use "analog", i.e. relative control for that. Mouselook, goddamnit!
Title: RE:Now DS Games from Rare
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 18, 2005, 02:23:36 AM: Rare wants input on what games thaey should & shouldn't make...

Rareware.com
Title: RE: Now DS Games from Rare
Post by: KDR_11k on August 18, 2005, 05:20:17 AM: I'd like more games that are great and don't miss their release dates and less bad games that get delayed endlessly, please!
Title: RE: Now DS Games from Rare
Post by: couchmonkey on August 18, 2005, 10:41:21 AM: I'd love to see Perfect Dark ported, I think it could work well on the DS. The system is great for FPSs. DK64 could still happen, Rare has been porting the DKC games for Nintendo on the GBA even though they're working for Microsoft, so why not? However, who really wants to play DK64 again? I mean, I personally liked it, but even I thought there was too much collecting in there. Maybe if they tweaked the collecting a bit and made it easier to swap characters.

But what I'd really like are NEW games! Rare is one of those developers that I believe cuold come up with some really outstanding ideas for the DS's extra features.
Title: RE: Now DS Games from Rare
Post by: Babyboy8100 on September 07, 2005, 11:13:31 PM: Killer Instinct - I would really just want this game from Rare....
Banjoe Kazooie - Maybe
Blast Corps? - Yeah
Diddy Kong?- Yes with Wifi
dare I say GoldenEye? Yes but we all know it cant happen thank to EA..
Perfect Dark - I would really hope so to help PDO on the xbox sell.
Conker BFD? - Hell Yeah.
Donkey Kong 64? Nope banjo-kazoie - banjo-toie- no more collecting 1 million bananas or coins im tire of it already. The GC version of jungle beat is cool though.