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Re: Everything Android - The Official Android Thread
« Reply #750 on: October 31, 2013, 02:37:18 PM »
Nexus 5 is official. Its out today.


You can get it in Black and White.



16GB-$350
32GB-$32GB


Also a few offical cases already directly from Google plus a new NFC charging Plate. Yeah think this will be my next phone unless by the time I decide to get this (next year) I decide to wait for the Nexus 6.


Only carriers so far are T-mobile and Sprint.


ALso looks like i'm getting my nexus 7 back which should hold me off until next year. SO far only five big products on my must purchase list for next year.
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Re: Everything Android - The Official Android Thread
« Reply #751 on: October 31, 2013, 02:46:55 PM »
I managed to snag one!

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Re: Everything Android - The Official Android Thread
« Reply #752 on: October 31, 2013, 03:12:18 PM »
Galaxy Nexus is DOA despite falling into the specs requirements for Kit Kat. They use the just fixation that its no linger in the 18 month support window. I don't want to call politics but I think Google doesn't want to support a Samsung nexus.

Also apparently the kitkat moto x style voice features are only for the Nexus 5.
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Re: Everything Android - The Official Android Thread
« Reply #753 on: October 31, 2013, 04:01:25 PM »
So why does Google have to rely on carriers when sending out Android updates, yet Apple and Microsoft don't have this problem?
 
Wouldn't sending automatic updates through WiFi solve the fragmentation issues and allow Google to bypass the carriers?
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Re: Everything Android - The Official Android Thread
« Reply #754 on: October 31, 2013, 04:17:25 PM »
Mostly due to the vast amount of flavors of androids. Google puts up the bits out and now every phone maker has to test and adapt it too however they changed android. Than carriers have to test it too see that it doesn't **** with the phone in anyway or add any features the carriers will hate like WiFi calling.


Nexus devices don't have this problem. When 4.3 hit it was pushed to my 7 and 4 pretty quickly. There's a reason why I only buy nexus, or recommend a nexus or iOS device.
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Re: Everything Android - The Official Android Thread
« Reply #755 on: October 31, 2013, 04:40:56 PM »
But the carriers don't interfere with Apple and Microsoft's OS updates, so why is Android singled out?
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Re: Everything Android - The Official Android Thread
« Reply #756 on: October 31, 2013, 04:47:06 PM »
Do all devices that run stock Android get updates quickly (not just Nexus devices)? Because Dell's new Venue tablets run stock Android, as do many Acer and Asus tablets.
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« Reply #757 on: October 31, 2013, 06:34:32 PM »
Do all devices that run stock Android get updates quickly (not just Nexus devices)? Because Dell's new Venue tablets run stock Android, as do many Acer and Asus tablets.
No, even the nexus brand has had some issues with updates (on verizon, getting it directly from Google avoids these things)
Honestly I don't think it's worth ruling a device out just because it doesn't always get updates and I certainly don't think stock android is hands down the greatest thing in existence.

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Re: Everything Android - The Official Android Thread
« Reply #758 on: October 31, 2013, 06:45:37 PM »
Galaxy Nexus is DOA despite falling into the specs requirements for Kit Kat.

I think it's Google policy generally to support only two versions (the newest and one before). Even Chrome falls into that bracket (sort of).

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Re: Everything Android - The Official Android Thread
« Reply #759 on: November 01, 2013, 09:16:32 AM »
And it's all true! Nexus 5 already shipping, Android 4.4 KitKat is released...not for me (for now) though. RAZR HD (not dev edition), locked bootloader (and missed out on the bootloader unlock a while back).
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« Reply #760 on: November 01, 2013, 10:50:05 AM »
Galaxy Nexus is DOA despite falling into the specs requirements for Kit Kat.

I think it's Google policy generally to support only two versions (the newest and one before). Even Chrome falls into that bracket (sort of).


Yeah I guess. I just don't think the 2012 Nexus 7 or Nexus 4 will be EOL'd so soon. I did get a laugh out of the verge hands on when they saw that the OS still has some lag and in the same video its smooth as silk and super responsive. Think i'm going to wait it out for the nexus 6 just to be safe and just upgrade my Nexus 7.


The one thing I noticed about the Nexus 4 is that unless you really like colors there's honestly no real point in grabbing a Moto X anymore. Its just too expensive to defend when its feature set can be had for $200 less.


Like Pokepal said though even the nexus line has problems. It only seems to be the verizon variant through. The Verizon Galaxy Nexus didn't get updates on time or at all because of the big V's interference. The Verizon variant also had carrier branding. My nexus 4 is through T-mobile and it has no Carrier branding and I've gotten all the updates on time as well. Google just needs to work on getting updates out on time. Kitkat should be rolling out right now instead of in a few weeks,


The main features to the OS are


-using Google Now from anywhere in the OS as long as you have a Nexus 5. (says alot this isn't on the 7)



-Full screen album and movie art on the lock screen when listening to music or watching a movie on chromcast.



-Full Screen apps



-Faster Multi-Tasking



-A new phone app that uses other Google data to make sort of the yellow pages in the dialer.



-when ever you get a call that's not in your contacts, google looks up google Maps data and matches the number to a bussiness if it can.



-Hangouts is the new all encomassing messaging app.(update with imessage style functions and you've won googy)
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Re: Everything Android - The Official Android Thread
« Reply #761 on: November 01, 2013, 05:11:35 PM »
My girlfriend has a Galaxy S4, and can't believe how shitty TouchWiz looks compared to pure Android.
 
I can't wait to finally see the reviews for the Dell Venue 7 & 8. They're within my budget and they run pure Android.
 
Those new Lenovo Yoga tablets look very nice too, but they'll probably never be updated to 4.3.
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Re: Everything Android - The Official Android Thread
« Reply #762 on: November 02, 2013, 09:27:28 AM »
http://www.androidcentral.com/nexus-5-and-android-44-kitkat-video-walkthrough

Nexus 5 and KitKat 4.4 look really nice. Almost makes me wish I didn't have Verizon...almost.
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Re: Everything Android - The Official Android Thread
« Reply #763 on: November 02, 2013, 10:54:53 AM »
Any chance that the Asus MeMo Pad HD and Dell Venue tablets get updated to 4.4 KitKat, since they run stock Android?
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Re: Everything Android - The Official Android Thread
« Reply #764 on: November 02, 2013, 10:13:28 PM »
Any chance that the Asus MeMo Pad HD and Dell Venue tablets get updated to 4.4 KitKat, since they run stock Android?
idk i'm curious as to what your usage plans are.
dell I would avoid atm, they just don't have any reputation to speak of with android

if you're that worried about updates just get the nexus, it's that simple.

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Re: Everything Android - The Official Android Thread
« Reply #765 on: November 03, 2013, 12:15:27 PM »
The reason why I want the Dell Venue 8 is because it comes in 32 GB for only $200, which is a great deal.
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Re: Everything Android - The Official Android Thread
« Reply #766 on: November 03, 2013, 12:30:33 PM »
That's not a good reason, unless storage matters much more than performance.
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Re: Everything Android - The Official Android Thread
« Reply #767 on: November 03, 2013, 12:41:08 PM »
The dell tablets just seem to be a poor man's nexus 7. The only other tablet in that size range I can recommend is the galaxy note 8.0 but that price is pretty far out of your budget

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Re: Everything Android - The Official Android Thread
« Reply #768 on: November 03, 2013, 12:43:25 PM »
That's not a good reason, unless storage matters much more than performance.


The more storage you have, the more apps and games you can store on the device. And I'm pretty sure the Intel chips in the Venue tablets are perfectly capable of offering good performance.
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Re: Everything Android - The Official Android Thread
« Reply #769 on: November 03, 2013, 01:49:48 PM »
I said the same thing when I got the ZTE avail... been waiting 2 years to jump ship from that garbage.

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Re: Everything Android - The Official Android Thread
« Reply #770 on: November 03, 2013, 04:12:59 PM »
ZTE has always been and always will be garbage. Dell at least has a decent record to go on. Having said that, I still say the Dell tablets are a bad choice. They are advertised as upgradeable to KitKat 4.4, but I'm a firm believe that you get what you pay for, and if you can get a significantly better tablet for $80 or less, then it's worth the price of admission.
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« Reply #771 on: November 03, 2013, 11:07:49 PM »
Well the zte phone works fine to be fair but it's just so low end that the official facebook app takes up 1/4th of it's available whopping user storage of 120mb and the new google play update crashes half the time.

But based on what I posted in the news thread dell tablets could become the cat's meow :D


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Re: Everything Android - The Official Android Thread
« Reply #772 on: November 04, 2013, 10:47:37 AM »
120 MB for app storage? If it has 4 GB of internal storage, with the OS taking about half of that, then there should be about 2 GB left for apps and games.
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Re: Everything Android - The Official Android Thread
« Reply #773 on: November 13, 2013, 09:23:23 AM »
http://www.androidcentral.com/motorola-officially-announces-moto-g

Motorola announces the Moto G - unlocked and off contract for $179 (8GB) or $199 (16GB). It's definitely mid-range (or high range from a year or so ago) - Snapdragon 400, 4.5" 720p display, 1GB RAM. Ships with Android 4.3 with guaranteed update to 4.4. Definitely they best phone you can get for $199 or less (brand new). Someone explain to Apple that this is how you make a mid-range device with a low price tag.
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Re: Everything Android - The Official Android Thread
« Reply #774 on: November 13, 2013, 09:27:41 AM »
Livestream here.

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