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Title: Holy ****, Osama Bin Laden is dead!
Post by: BranDonk Kong on May 01, 2011, 10:45:00 PM
Discuss.
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Post by: UncleBob on May 01, 2011, 10:48:14 PM
Discuss... carefully
ftfy...
Title: Re: Holy ****, Osama Bin Laden is dead!
Post by: Ceric on May 01, 2011, 10:49:07 PM
It is irrelevant now.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 01, 2011, 10:56:45 PM
I need to see the VHS tape for myself.

Does this mean we can finally bring all our peoples home?
Title: Re: Holy ****, Osama Bin Laden is dead!
Post by: Stogi on May 01, 2011, 10:56:58 PM
Must be real. Obizzy is holding a press conference tonight.

And I think it has more relevance than you think. If we didn't find him and kill him (or just find him dead like I think we did), our time in Afghanistan would have seemed like a waste. But on the flipside, since we found him in Pakistan, our time really was a waste.

So to the people, this is it. This is the time we actually withdraw from Afghanistan.
Title: Re: Holy ****, Osama Bin Laden is dead!
Post by: ShyGuy on May 01, 2011, 11:07:44 PM
I'm glad he's dead. I feel a little conflicted about that, but I'm glad he's dead.
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Post by: broodwars on May 01, 2011, 11:22:00 PM
This is a great symbolic victory, though ultimately pointless if we didn't kill all his lieutenants and utterly cripple his organization's support structure.  These terrorists are like cockroaches: kill one and 50 more rise to take his place.  If Bin Laden is all we got, I'm concerned about retaliation as Al Quaeda sets out to show us that they still exist.

Maybe I'm just cynical, but it comes off as just a little convenient that this just happened to occur now after all these years of searching, when the President's approval numbers are what they are.

Still, it's a victory for justice, and I hope this helps the families of September 11th and Afganization victims/soldiers find solace and closure.
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Post by: stevey on May 01, 2011, 11:41:15 PM
oh ****, I was just thinking today how awesome it would be if Obama were to kill him...
Title: Re: Holy ****, Osama Bin Laden is dead!
Post by: Stogi on May 01, 2011, 11:55:06 PM
Ahh the internet. So quick to make it funny.

(http://i.imgur.com/lBDfA.gif)
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Post by: lolmonade on May 02, 2011, 12:13:08 AM
(http://sutas.lt/wp-content/gallery/priceless/america_fuck_yeah.jpg)
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 02, 2011, 12:20:02 AM
Quote from: NeoGaf
I guess someone finally watched CSPAN between 4-5pm

Seth Myers to receive honorary marks for his help in the capturing killing of Osama Bin Laden?
Title: Re: Holy ****, Osama Bin Laden is dead!
Post by: Kytim89 on May 02, 2011, 12:39:51 AM
Thousands of virgins in heaven have called in sick after hearing of Bin Laden's death.
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Post by: FZeroBoyo on May 02, 2011, 12:43:26 AM
(http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_lkjwsc0qnp1qg18i8o1_1280.png?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAJ6IHWSU3BX3X7X3Q&Expires=1304397778&Signature=b7zqxj0gn9vhCHrNxVUDJlxU2lE%3D)
Something like this had to come up at some point.
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Post by: oohhboy on May 02, 2011, 12:57:35 AM
The US found their Unicorn.

Obama just got re-elected.

Obama from 3 Years ago just found today in Dick Cheney's basement. Impostor's head found exploded from deadly head lock from Michelle.

People ar cheering like it's VJ day. Japanese beaten. Victory in the Pacific!

Now what will the US Hunt?
Title: Re: Holy ****, Osama Bin Laden is dead!
Post by: Stogi on May 02, 2011, 01:03:02 AM
Well today, NATO (aka pretty-much-the-US) killed Ghadafi's son. So we still have Ghadafi himself.
Title: Re: Holy ****, Osama Bin Laden is dead!
Post by: ThePerm on May 02, 2011, 01:12:14 AM
i was wondering what we would do to top the royal wedding
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 02, 2011, 01:16:04 AM
So Obama & Seth team up to roast the living **** out of Trump @ the White House Correspondents Dinner
US Forces shoot Osama in the head the very next day (8 years to the day of Bush's Mission Accomplished Speech - 5/1/2003)
and then President Obama's speech cuts off the end of the Celebrity Apprentice finale....

What a week indeed Obama, what a week indeed (referencing the WHCD video)
(http://i.imgur.com/a3nZg.jpg)
To 2012


edit:
Quote from: Twitter
BREAKING: Osama bin Laden is dead. Shouldn't have put his address on PSN.
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Post by: Stogi on May 02, 2011, 02:32:24 AM
Great post.
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Post by: SupaKirb on May 02, 2011, 02:47:03 AM
(http://content.screencast.com/users/SupaKirb/folders/Jing/media/2c84b04a-67c1-45d0-8742-f2c3b155af50/2011-05-02_0154.png)

And the text images begin...
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Post by: ShyGuy on May 02, 2011, 02:54:36 AM
uh oh POLITICS
Title: Re: Holy ****, Osama Bin Laden is dead!
Post by: nickmitch on May 02, 2011, 03:43:55 AM
Guess where I just was!

(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m74/nickmitch889/photo.jpg)
(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m74/nickmitch889/photo1.jpg)
(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m74/nickmitch889/photo2.jpg)

You can really see the varying sentiments.
Title: Re: Holy ****, Osama Bin Laden is dead!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 02, 2011, 04:15:01 AM
I just want to point out that Obama's tweet that announced the death of Osama was tweet #1337

8th anniversary of Mission accomplished & tweet # 1337

Obama planned this ****. He just trolled the entire U.S.
boosting poll #'s, securing re-election funding, shutting up Trump, killing Osama, Fox News has to sound happy & say nice things about the president.

We need more weeks like this.
it's time to go play one of my ringtones "Baracka Flocka Flame - Head of the State"
(http://www.abload.de/img/barackawfkx.gif)
Title: Re: Holy ****, Osama Bin Laden is dead!
Post by: Chozo Ghost on May 02, 2011, 04:43:37 AM
Now hopefully Muammar Gadhafi's death will soon follow. Gadhafi blew up that Lockerbie plane over 20 years ago so he is also a terrorist.
Title: Re: Holy ****, Osama Bin Laden is dead!
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on May 02, 2011, 06:21:14 AM
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Osama Bin Laden is dead. Shouldn't have put his address on PSN.
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won't believe it without long-form death certificate
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Waldo: 1, Osama Bin Laden: 0
Title: Re: Holy ****, Osama Bin Laden is dead!
Post by: Ian Sane on May 02, 2011, 12:17:05 PM
So Bin Laden is dead but we buried him at sea so there is no actual evidence that we killed him but CNN says we did so we did!

I do sincerly believe they are telling the truth but could you possibly give conspiracy theorists more ammunition?  This is like when someone takes a picture of the "biggest warthog/moose/bear/whatever" that they killed but are too stupid to stand next to the body to provide a size reference.

I predict there will be a "Bin Laden lives" myth among his followers.  There are people who don't think Elvis is dead when his funeral was on TV so for THIS it will easy to assume he's still alive.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 02, 2011, 12:46:21 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQ47eGSilPc&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQ47eGSilPc&feature=youtu.be)



(http://i.imgur.com/lBDfA.gif)
(http://www.abload.de/img/baracka2gfmh.gif)
Title: Re: Holy ****, Osama Bin Laden is dead!
Post by: BranDonk Kong on May 02, 2011, 12:52:54 PM
There will probably be pictures released, like when Saddam Hussein's sons were killed. Anyway, if they didn't get rid of the body, they'd be going against Muslim tradition, but no country in their right mind would be so stupid as to allow Osama Bin laden to be buried on their turf, so dumping him in the ocean was the best thing they could do on short notice. There are already sympathizers trying to say he fought to the death and that one of his wives humped in front of him (doubtful, since he was shot in the head, and he's 6'4", she was used as a human shield), but most people realize that he is actually dead.

Edit - I'm totally gonna make a T-Shirt of the "I was busy killing Osama Bin Laden" caption.
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Post by: Plugabugz on May 02, 2011, 01:02:16 PM
So they could find time and money to get Osama Bin Laden but can't find Carmen San Diego?
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Post by: Chozo Ghost on May 02, 2011, 01:16:03 PM
They probably wanted to get rid of the body in the sea because if it was buried anywhere that spot could end up being used like a shrine for his followers and supporters. I seen a show once on the history channel about what supposedly happened with Hitler's charred remains, and apparently the Soviets took the body and fully cremated it and then dumped the ashes in the sewer. That way there can be no burial spot or shrine for supporters to make pilgrimages to. However, for some reason the Soviets did keep a piece of Hitler's skull which is still kept in Moscow to this day.
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Post by: Plugabugz on May 02, 2011, 01:21:48 PM
I hope they literally went to the sea floor and pulled out shovels?
Title: Re: Holy ****, Osama Bin Laden is dead!
Post by: BranDonk Kong on May 02, 2011, 01:27:12 PM
I assume the fishies have finished off most of the body by now, but you never know.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 02, 2011, 01:38:08 PM
I'm hoping they started a shark feeding frenzy by stirring some chum in the water and then dumped the body. The little fishies can have whatever the sharks didn't eat.

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Post by: Chozo Ghost on May 02, 2011, 04:04:36 PM
Human remains have been known to wash ashore from time to time. That was what happened to Lacey Peterson a few years back and that was the only proof she had died. Scott Peterson killed her and dumped her body and he probably would have gotten away with it were it not for that fact. So I guess it depends on how the body was disposed of and where exactly it was dumped in the ocean.

It would be an interesting story to say the least if Bin Laden's remains are found washed ashore on a Pakistani beach a month from now.
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Post by: Ceric on May 02, 2011, 04:18:52 PM
I don't think we have to worry about that.  The Navy should know how to bury someone at Sea.
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Post by: NeoStar9X on May 02, 2011, 04:46:02 PM
Great night lead into a great day.  ;D ;D ;D

Seal Team 6 Rocks. President Obama Rocks. America Rocks!!!!

I haven't felt this pro America in a long time. I hope they release the pictures soon.
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Post by: apdude on May 02, 2011, 04:46:51 PM
I'm hoping they started a shark feeding frenzy by stirring some chum in the water and then dumped the body. The little fishies can have whatever the sharks didn't eat.

GO SHARKS!!!
Title: Re: Holy ****, Osama Bin Laden is dead!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 02, 2011, 05:03:03 PM
I just want to point out that Obama's tweet that announced the death of Osama was tweet #1337
(http://i.imgur.com/V3o2q.jpg)
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Post by: Ian Sane on May 02, 2011, 05:05:22 PM
One thing that is kind of funny about this is that this is the most significant news story in years and yet the Canadian news stations can't really cover it much.  Today is the Canadian Federal Election so every Canadian news program is going to be covering the election results while American networks like CNN and Fox News have a field day with the Bin Laden story.  D'oh!

Though I know they'll tie it in somehow with at least one "expert" being asked if Bin Laden's death has had any effect on the voters.  "Well with Bin Laden out of the picture there is a less of a need for military funding and Canadians know that that money can be funneled into other public services which may sway the vote more towards... blah blah blah"
Title: Re: Holy ****, Osama Bin Laden is dead!
Post by: ThePerm on May 02, 2011, 05:21:18 PM
Gi-Joe has taken out the cobra commander

on the news they were talking about the special forces unit and I was like...this is flippin GI-Joe
Title: Re: Holy ****, Osama Bin Laden is dead!
Post by: Kytim89 on May 02, 2011, 06:32:48 PM
They probably wanted to get rid of the body in the sea because if it was buried anywhere that spot could end up being used like a shrine for his followers and supporters. I seen a show once on the history channel about what supposedly happened with Hitler's charred remains, and apparently the Soviets took the body and fully cremated it and then dumped the ashes in the sewer. That way there can be no burial spot or shrine for supporters to make pilgrimages to. However, for some reason the Soviets did keep a piece of Hitler's skull which is still kept in Moscow to this day.

They should have strung his ass up in Time Square and let the people of New York take pictures and throw stones at him. The (radical) Muslims of the world have no issue with burning our flags and carricatures of our national identity, so let's show any other potential Osamas what they will get if they screw with us. Also, let's finally get the hell out of the Middle East and rebuild the towers.

If he is really dead, I hope that he is in the deepest pit of hell.
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Post by: broodwars on May 02, 2011, 06:42:45 PM
They probably wanted to get rid of the body in the sea because if it was buried anywhere that spot could end up being used like a shrine for his followers and supporters. I seen a show once on the history channel about what supposedly happened with Hitler's charred remains, and apparently the Soviets took the body and fully cremated it and then dumped the ashes in the sewer. That way there can be no burial spot or shrine for supporters to make pilgrimages to. However, for some reason the Soviets did keep a piece of Hitler's skull which is still kept in Moscow to this day.

They should have strung his ass up in Time Square and let the people of New York take pictures and throw stones at him. The (radical) Muslims of the world have no issue with burning our flags and carricatures of our national identity, so let's show any other potential Osamas what they will get if they screw with us.

No, as amusing as that might be to some, we are better than the scum we fight.  There's no need to stoop to their level and desecrate the dead.  We killed him and threw him in the ocean, and I'm satisfied with that.  Besides, the last thing we need right now is for us to incite even further violence in the Middle East through government-sanctioned anti-Islamic "insensitivity".
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Post by: Chozo Ghost on May 02, 2011, 06:51:38 PM
I think this quick disposal of the body without any videos or even photos of it released to the public is going to fuel conspiracy theories. For example, some people believe that Bin Laden has been dead for years, so someone could make the claim that the government had his body on ice all this time and maybe Obama just decided to thaw it out for a public approval boost or something. Another theory may be that he's not really even dead at all. I'm not saying I personally believe that, but those are examples of the sort of conspiracy theories that are going to pop up because of the way this was played out.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 02, 2011, 06:53:48 PM
I just edited this pic ;)
http://i53.tinypic.com/6dzfuu.jpg
Title: Re: Holy ****, Osama Bin Laden is dead!
Post by: BranDonk Kong on May 02, 2011, 07:20:22 PM
That pic is awesome. I really do plan on making that T-**** tonight, I'll take pics if I do. I've got some transfer paper somewhere.
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Post by: Stogi on May 02, 2011, 07:20:57 PM
So...has anyone heard the story of what happened that fateful night? It's sounds crazy - crazy enough to be in the next Modern Warfare (calling it now).


Supposedly, 4 helicopters flew into the compound and were engaged by militants on the roof shooting RPG's. One helicopter was hit and crashed. Obama said no one hurt, so either he's lying or that was a crazy crash escape. The soldiers proceed to kill the shooters, drop down and breach a door. Once inside, they are met with resistant by OBL's top couriers and sons. After a firefight, they move in and find OBL using his wife as a human shield.

BTW, the President, CIA, and Military specialists are all watching this live.

So without any hesitation, they give the order to shoot them both. Then they shot him again in the head. Afterwards, they search the compound for any information. They find more wives and children. They arrest them and leave them for the Pakistan military. After grabbing all the intel they could find, they then destroy the crashed helicopter and set the entire mansion on fire.

Fucking bad ass.
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Post by: Shaymin on May 02, 2011, 08:23:26 PM
Part of the Muslim burial procedure in case of a threat of defilement involves tying weights to the body when putting it in the sea. So nothing should be washing up on shore for several million years.
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Post by: ShyGuy on May 02, 2011, 08:45:36 PM
Maybe they crashed the helicopter into the compound on purpose and came out guns a blazin' like A-team. (I expect helicopter crash/I don't give a f---- GIFs soon)
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Post by: ThePerm on May 02, 2011, 08:48:39 PM
im guessing the helicopter crash was a huge distraction

half the crew rushes in to see the helicopter and they're like oh ****, thats when snipers take them down
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Post by: Stogi on May 02, 2011, 10:41:00 PM
Yo look at this picture of them watching it go down! It says it all!

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5226/5680724572_d4696d593d_z.jpg)
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Post by: gregmde7 on May 02, 2011, 11:46:52 PM
WOW!

I can't believe that it took them this long to actually get him though. Didn't we supposedly kill him a few years ago?

I think this time it's actually for real, but I think they should show a little bit more proof than what they have - he was the most wanted man in America by the way.
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Post by: Oblivion on May 02, 2011, 11:56:30 PM
They will. Photos will be released soon.
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Post by: Stogi on May 03, 2011, 12:07:58 AM
Supposedly, they are deliberating whether to release photographs. Since Osama was shot in the eye, they are pretty graphic. So who knows if they will or not. The decision is suppose to be made in a couple days.

EDIT: How do you know that, Oblivion? Intuition or something else?
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Post by: Oblivion on May 03, 2011, 12:22:26 AM
MSN. It's been reported all over the place. Plus my local news got to interview a Tacoma man who was partly in charge of the operation. I lived near Tacoma, obviously.
Title: Re: Holy ****, Osama Bin Laden is dead!
Post by: Stogi on May 03, 2011, 12:50:22 AM
Senators are calling for it, but that is in no way a confirmation. The latest news is that the White House is only still considering it.
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Post by: Chozo Ghost on May 03, 2011, 04:16:16 AM
Part of the Muslim burial procedure in case of a threat of defilement involves tying weights to the body when putting it in the sea. So nothing should be washing up on shore for several million years.

That was exactly what Scott Peterson did to his wife. But that doesn't work, because eventually the body begins to decay and it will at some point break free of whatever is holding it down. For example, you can chain something heavy to the leg of a body, but eventually the leg will rot and break off and the rest of the corpse will rise to the surface.
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Post by: Stogi on May 03, 2011, 04:58:01 AM
LOL What is wrong with you, Chozo?
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Post by: Ceric on May 03, 2011, 09:48:16 AM
Part of the Muslim burial procedure in case of a threat of defilement involves tying weights to the body when putting it in the sea. So nothing should be washing up on shore for several million years.

That was exactly what Scott Peterson did to his wife. But that doesn't work, because eventually the body begins to decay and it will at some point break free of whatever is holding it down. For example, you can chain something heavy to the leg of a body, but eventually the leg will rot and break off and the rest of the corpse will rise to the surface.
It will also need to break free of the body bag I'm sure its in.
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Post by: MaryJane on May 03, 2011, 10:21:23 AM
Navy SEALS FTW!!

Lol, this is awesome, and the conspiracy theories help keep it fresh in people's mind come election time. The real work was done, and now the politics begin.

That picture of them watching the operation is great, and really shows the character of the people watching. I've been looking at it for two days now, and frankly, the look of confidence on Gates face is a little scary, but reassuring. It kind of says, "This ain't ****, I've seen them face worse.", but then again, it says, "This ain't ****, I've seen them face worse.", know what I mean?

And out of the three former presidential candidates in the room, I definitely prefer the look on the face of the man who won the primaries, and went on to win the election.

I also like that chick in the background kind sticking her head in, like she's not sure if she's supposed to be there, but she damn sure wants to see it.

I wish I knew who that chick is, and the guy standing next to her, and I could have sworn that first bald guy standing up with the look of smug resignation (like he's glad to be there, but what he's seeing bother him somewhat) was a political pundit for CNN. I could find no picture with names, which is disappointing, and I also wonder who's the guy in the black suit and yellow tie whose face you can't see. Also, there's that guy who head is occupying most of the space on the bottom left.

Damn, would I have loved to have been in that room, and kudos to the president for ordering bin Laden's death, despite the human shield. Whoever he used as a shield was likely there willingly, as having any dissenters in a hideout is not a good idea. I'm not one for violence, but this delivers a clear message to our enemies: We Will Find You!!
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Post by: Ceric on May 03, 2011, 10:24:25 AM
Navy SEALS FTW!!

Lol, this is awesome, and the conspiracy theories help keep it fresh in people's mind come election time. The real work was done, and now the politics begin.

That picture of them watching the operation is great, and really shows the character of the people watching. I've been looking at it for two days now, and frankly, the look of confidence on Gates face is a little scary, but reassuring. It kind of says, "This ain't ****, I've seen them face worse.", but then again, it says, "This ain't ****, I've seen them face worse.", know what I mean?

And out of the three former presidential candidates in the room, I definitely prefer the look on the face of the man who won the primaries, and went on to win the election.

I also like that chick in the background kind sticking her head in, like she's not sure if she's supposed to be there, but she damn sure wants to see it.

I wish I knew who that chick is, and the guy standing next to her, and I could have sworn that first bald guy standing up with the look of smug resignation (like he's glad to be there, but what he's seeing bother him somewhat) was a political pundit for CNN. I could find no picture with names, which is disappointing, and I also wonder who's the guy in the black suit and yellow tie whose face you can't see. Also, there's that guy who head is occupying most of the space on the bottom left.

Damn, would I have loved to have been in that room, and kudos to the president for ordering bin Laden's death, despite the human shield. Whoever he used as a shield was likely there willingly, as having any dissenters in a hideout is not a good idea. I'm not one for violence, but this delivers a clear message to our enemies: We Will Find You!!
Any particular place with these pictures?
Title: Re: Holy ****, Osama Bin Laden is dead!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 03, 2011, 10:34:03 AM
Bush wasted 7 years on it.

Obama reorganized/refocused and it only took him 2

Bush was looking for Oil
Obama was looking for Blood
Title: Re: Holy ****, Osama Bin Laden is dead!
Post by: MaryJane on May 03, 2011, 11:05:35 AM
Any particular place with these pictures?

Yo look at this picture of them watching it go down! It says it all!

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5226/5680724572_d4696d593d_z.jpg)



Bush wasted 7 years on it.

Obama reorganized/refocused and it only took him 2

Bush was looking for Oil
Obama was looking for Blood


I'm not the biggest Bush fan, but the investigation that lead to bin Laden death started under the Bush administration.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 03, 2011, 11:21:23 AM
Bush wasted 7 years on it....

(http://i.imgur.com/bs4ZA.jpg)
Title: Re: Holy ****, Osama Bin Laden is dead!
Post by: ShyGuy on May 03, 2011, 12:00:27 PM
Really, we started looking for him under the Clinton administration.
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Post by: Ian Sane on May 03, 2011, 12:14:02 PM
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So without any hesitation, they give the order to shoot them both.

I can't help but imagine Obama saying it like that dude in Raiders of the Lost Ark.  "Shoot zem.  Shoot zem both."
 
I like how in that photo Hilary Clinton is all like "oh dear" and looks very uncomfortable while Obama just has a "let's get this **** DONE!" look on his face.  Way to set feminism back 20 years there, Hilary.  Unless you imagine that Hilary has a cigarette in her hand in which case she looks supremely badass.
Title: Re: Holy ****, Osama Bin Laden is dead!
Post by: Ceric on May 03, 2011, 12:23:22 PM
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So without any hesitation, they give the order to shoot them both.

I can't help but imagine Obama saying it like that dude in Raiders of the Lost Ark.  "Shoot zem.  Shoot zem both."
 
I like how in that photo Hilary Clinton is all like "oh dear" and looks very uncomfortable while Obama just has a "let's get this **** DONE!" look on his face.  Way to set feminism back 20 years there, Hilary.  Unless you imagine that Hilary has a cigarette in her hand in which case she looks supremely badass.
I'm thinking she is looking more thoughtful and "how do I spin this to my advantage for 2016"
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Post by: apdude on May 03, 2011, 12:39:06 PM
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So without any hesitation, they give the order to shoot them both.

I can't help but imagine Obama saying it like that dude in Raiders of the Lost Ark.  "Shoot zem.  Shoot zem both."
 
I like how in that photo Hilary Clinton is all like "oh dear" and looks very uncomfortable while Obama just has a "let's get this **** DONE!" look on his face.  Way to set feminism back 20 years there, Hilary.  Unless you imagine that Hilary has a cigarette in her hand in which case she looks supremely badass.

She seemed uncomfortable during the press confrence she had regarding the opperation when she was reading her speach in a "hooked on phonics" style. 
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Post by: MegaByte on May 03, 2011, 12:40:29 PM
(http://idisk.me.com/rexhammock/Public/Pictures/Skitch/hillary-clinton-detail-20110503-071925.jpg) (http://www.xydo.com/articles/19386871-why_the_white_house_situation_room_photo_is_so_powerful)
Title: Re: Holy ****, Osama Bin Laden is dead!
Post by: Ceric on May 03, 2011, 12:56:31 PM
I wonder how much harder this makes her job.
Title: Re: Holy ****, Osama Bin Laden is dead!
Post by: Chozo Ghost on May 03, 2011, 02:10:43 PM
I'm not the biggest Bush fan, but the investigation that lead to bin Laden death started under the Bush administration.

Actually, the hunt for Bin Laden began in 1998 under the Clinton administration. The 9/11 attack was Bin Laden's worst act of terrorism, but it wasn't his first. Many people forget he bombed a few embassies in Africa and also blew up the USS Cole.
Title: Re: Holy ****, Osama Bin Laden is dead!
Post by: MaryJane on May 03, 2011, 02:51:06 PM
I did say the investigation that lead to his death, and not just the general investigation of him right?
Title: Re: Holy ****, Osama Bin Laden is dead!
Post by: broodwars on May 03, 2011, 02:58:30 PM
There's actually a lot of word going around that the intelligence that led to this operation was, if not started by the Bush administration, was uncovered through the "enhanced interrogation methods" put into place by the Bush administration.  I'll be curious to see what kind of political legs Bin Laden's death will have come November next year.  It's a feel-good story now, but in a few months time the economy and whatnot will still be there and will still be a major issue.
Title: Re: Holy ****, Osama Bin Laden is dead!
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on May 03, 2011, 03:14:06 PM
Bush wasted 7 years on it.

Obama reorganized/refocused and it only took him 2

Bush was looking for Oil
Obama was looking for Blood

Sounds more like complacency and carelessness on Bin Laden's part, an aid of his answered the phone and unwittingly lead the special ops right to his doorstep.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/pakistan/8489078/Osama-bin-Laden-killed-phonecall-by-courier-led-US-to-their-target.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/pakistan/8489078/Osama-bin-Laden-killed-phonecall-by-courier-led-US-to-their-target.html)

The CIA and the military had been looking for him for years, it isn't "President Obama refocused", it is a matter of, like so many, the fugitive screwing up, or someone around him screwing up. Just happened under President Obama's watch when it occured.
Title: Re: Holy ****, Osama Bin Laden is dead!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 03, 2011, 03:24:40 PM
Bush wasted 7 years on it.

Obama reorganized/refocused and it only took him 2

Bush was looking for Oil
Obama was looking for Blood

Sounds more like complacency and carelessness on Bin Laden's part, an aid of his answered the phone and unwittingly lead the special ops right to his doorstep.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/pakistan/8489078/Osama-bin-Laden-killed-phonecall-by-courier-led-US-to-their-target.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/pakistan/8489078/Osama-bin-Laden-killed-phonecall-by-courier-led-US-to-their-target.html)

The CIA and the military had been looking for him for years, it isn't "Obama refocused", it is a matter of, like so many, the fugitive screwing up, or someone around him screwing up.

And that mistake might not have been caught if Obama didn't order the troops to refocus all efforts back into the AfPak region and quit being sidetracked by Hussein & oil reserves in Iraq. You can downplay it all you want, but up until Obama took office we were only occupying the Afghan region with focus in Iraq.

Obama gets the credit now since he is at the controls just as Bush would have gotten credit if this happened on his watch. It doesn't matter who messed up, who snitched or who made took actual shot. This is a victory for Obama, the USA and the World as a whole.
Title: Re: Holy ****, Osama Bin Laden is dead!
Post by: apdude on May 03, 2011, 03:29:33 PM
The CIA and the military had been looking for him for years, it isn't "President Obama refocused", it is a matter of, like so many, the fugitive screwing up, or someone around him screwing up. Just happened under President Obama's watch when it occured.

But Obama did pull the trigger on the type of opperation.  He could have tried to go to Pakistan officials and try to go the diplomatic way giving time for Bin Laden to escape, or just launch a missle and hope for the best.  He made a gutsy call and put terrorists on notice.  He should get some credit for that aspect of the mission.
Title: Re: Holy ****, Osama Bin Laden is dead!
Post by: Ceric on May 03, 2011, 03:56:03 PM
The CIA and the military had been looking for him for years, it isn't "President Obama refocused", it is a matter of, like so many, the fugitive screwing up, or someone around him screwing up. Just happened under President Obama's watch when it occured.
But Obama did pull the trigger on the type of opperation.  He could have tried to go to Pakistan officials and try to go the diplomatic way giving time for Bin Laden to escape, or just launch a missle and hope for the best.  He made a gutsy call and put terrorists on notice.  He should get some credit for that aspect of the mission.
I have to Agree.  Obama definitely called the "How" and this how is definitive, gutsy, and show that the USA is willing to gets boots on the ground and not hide behind our technology.  If Bin Laden hadn't been in their I can guarantee you that the conversation today would be about one of the biggest US diplomatic blunders this year.
Title: Re: Holy ****, Osama Bin Laden is dead!
Post by: NWR_insanolord on May 03, 2011, 07:32:29 PM
This is getting dangerously close to political discussion in here, people. Don't make me shut this thing down.
Title: Re: Holy ****, Osama Bin Laden is dead!
Post by: broodwars on May 03, 2011, 07:35:22 PM
While I don't doubt that the Administration succeeded in killing Bin Laden, it bothers me how they keep changing their story regarding the operation.  Now the White House is saying that Bin Laden was not armed, but was "still resisting" and that he did not use one of his wives as a human shield.  Why did the White House lie about such minor things, as I don't think the American people really give a damn how he was inevitably killed so long as he did actually die?
Title: Re: Holy ****, Osama Bin Laden is dead!
Post by: UncleBob on May 03, 2011, 08:01:04 PM
This is getting dangerously close to political discussion in here, people. Don't make me shut this thing down.

I've been avoiding this topic for just this reason.  I'm not sure too many would care for what I have to say on the subject...
Title: Re: Holy ****, Osama Bin Laden is dead!
Post by: NWR_insanolord on May 03, 2011, 08:08:57 PM
This is getting dangerously close to political discussion in here, people. Don't make me shut this thing down.

I've been avoiding this topic for just this reason.  I'm not sure too many would care for what I have to say on the subject...

Don't forget your duty as a moderator. If you go against regulations and start talking politics I'll have your badge!
Title: Re: Holy ****, Osama Bin Laden is dead!
Post by: ShyGuy on May 03, 2011, 08:13:24 PM
Lock this thread up like the Republicans have locked up the 2012 Presidential election. Whooooo!
Title: Re: Holy ****, Osama Bin Laden is dead!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 03, 2011, 08:27:21 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/vPGOo.jpg)


Lock this thread up like the Republicans have locked up the 2012 Presidential election. Whooooo!

(http://i.imgur.com/gjcZ8.gif)

(http://i54.tinypic.com/1zyc30k.jpg)
Title: Re: Holy ****, Osama Bin Laden is dead!
Post by: Stogi on May 03, 2011, 09:00:49 PM
Ahaha that the greatest .gif I've ever seen!


Broodwars, what's being said around the major news networks (including Fox) is that these interrogation techniques stopped being used on 2004. It wasn't until 2008 that US intel learned the nick-name of the courier. So people are arguing that once you break a man with 'EI' he is more willing to talk regardless of if you don't use them again. Other's are arguing that they never worked, hence the gap in time.

Maryjane, go to the white house's flickr page. It has everyone listed in the image.
Title: Re: Holy ****, Osama Bin Laden is dead!
Post by: MaryJane on May 03, 2011, 09:34:17 PM
Thanks Unagi! I thought Denis McDonough was Arne Duncan, and I was wondering why the Secretary of Education got a seat in that room lol.

@Broodwars
Of course the story is changing. They're declassifying things, and the media is getting reports from different sources who are getting their information from different sources. As for the unarmed resisting, they're not just going to say, "Oh, well we couldn't even try KSM in NYC, so what were we going to do with bin Laden? We had to kill him in cold blood or put at risk every American life everywhere as he awaited trial." But I'm guessing that's what happened. If they had the presence of mind to shoot the unarmed wife in the leg, but kill another woman, they could have captured him, and he probably wanted them to, but it's probably better that they did not. Radical Muslims you to say Praise bin Laden, as often as they said Praise Allah, so I don't think transporting him anywhere would have been a good option. But I definitely like the strike team decision vs. the drone strike option, which as we now know, would have killed women and children.
Title: Re: Holy ****, Osama Bin Laden is dead!
Post by: Plugabugz on May 04, 2011, 05:11:37 AM
This is getting dangerously close to political discussion in here, people. Don't make me shut this thing down.

YOU SAID THE P WORD! BAN HER!
Title: Re: Holy ****, Osama Bin Laden is dead!
Post by: Oblivion on May 04, 2011, 10:49:33 AM
Wait, why can't we talk politics? If you're all the mature adults some of you are, then you should be able to handle it. If they can't handle it, why not tempban them?
Title: Re: Holy ****, Osama Bin Laden is dead!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 04, 2011, 10:58:03 AM
Wait, why can't we talk politics? If you're all the mature adults some of you are, then you should be able to handle it. If they can't handle it, why not tempban them?

Don't even go there. We've been down this road many times before. so just don't go there & leave it be.
Title: Re: Holy ****, Osama Bin Laden is dead!
Post by: Chozo Ghost on May 04, 2011, 10:59:05 AM
The 2012 election is a year and a half away. At that point no one is going to be talking about the death of Bin Laden still. We can't predict what will happen between now and then, but the media is going to be focusing on more current issues.
Title: Re: Holy ****, Osama Bin Laden is dead!
Post by: Ceric on May 04, 2011, 11:53:52 AM
The 2012 election is a year and a half away. At that point no one is going to be talking about the death of Bin Laden still. We can't predict what will happen between now and then, but the media is going to be focusing on more current issues.
lol, Obama's Birth Cerificate says Hi.
Title: Re: Holy ****, Osama Bin Laden is dead!
Post by: vudu on May 04, 2011, 05:28:21 PM
****, am I the only mod who does his job around here?

I'll lock this up with an amusing anecdote:  I learned of Bin Laden's death while browsing Jam Graph during breakfast.  After seeing two nonsensical charts about him I deduced something went down recently and hopped onto Google News.  Guess I need to rearrange the order of my RSS Feed.   :Q