Gaming Forums => Nintendo Gaming => Topic started by: Shaymin on March 11, 2014, 11:21:34 PM
Title: The NFRIT - For the games NWR left out of March Madness
Post by: Shaymin on March 11, 2014, 11:21:34 PM
So if you're familiar with March Madness, you also know about the National Invitational Tournament (or NIT), which allows quality teams to enjoy postseason success even if they don't make the big dance.
In talking with local management (Neal, the conversation is on Connectivity 125), I found a grip of games that were quite frankly, shocking omissions from the tourney field. As such, I'd like to give those games a chance to shine.
The four play-in runners up will get automatically in, but I'd like to get this to 32 games if possible. So let's see your selections. One per person, make a case, and make it a good one.
Check for your game on this sheet before nominating. (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApwJEZWGUKL_dFUxTnJPcnMyUVVTamFIWVBiRV9QMUE&usp=sharing) The only other rule is that the game has to come out in 1999 or later to be eligible, as a celebration of the site's 15th anniversary.
Title: Re: The NFRIT - For the games NWR left out of March Madness
Post by: Shaymin on March 11, 2014, 11:23:18 PM
Qualifiers: - Luigi's Mansion - Viewtiful Joe - WWF No Mercy - Radiant Historia
Title: Re: The NFRIT - For the games NWR left out of March Madness
Post by: ShyGuy on March 12, 2014, 01:00:18 AM
This all seems so complicated. How do I win the billion dollars from Warren Buffet?
Title: Re: The NFRIT - For the games NWR left out of March Madness
Post by: Stratos on March 12, 2014, 01:50:06 PM
I was about to throw up a huge list, then I noticed you said one per person. I'll need to think about this a bit.
Title: Re: The NFRIT - For the games NWR left out of March Madness
Post by: Ian Sane on March 12, 2014, 01:53:39 PM
Conker's Bad Fur Day.
Title: Re: The NFRIT - For the games NWR left out of March Madness
Post by: Luigi Dude on March 12, 2014, 02:52:10 PM
Wario Land: Shake It
The fact that Kirby's Epic Yarn is in the tournament while Wario Land isn't is pretty sickening to me considering Shake It was the much better Good Feel game. So Wario Land: Shake It easily gets my nomination.
Title: Re: The NFRIT - For the games NWR left out of March Madness
Post by: NWR_Neal on March 12, 2014, 03:22:50 PM
I'll just dump the other games that were up for Wild Card spots and missed out
Metroid Prime 2 Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon Mario Strikers Charged Rhythm Heaven Fever Excitebots Metroid Prime Hunters Professor Layton and the Last Specter Harvest Moon 64 Animal Crossing: Wild World Super Mario Deluxe
Title: Re: The NFRIT - For the games NWR left out of March Madness
Post by: Ian Sane on March 12, 2014, 04:35:00 PM
Eh, screw it, I'm breaking this "one per forumer" rule because I thought of two other games that were neglected: the Zelda Oracle games. Phantom Hourglass gets a spot in the tourney but not these? And the NWR forum Zelda rankings even put those games ahead of the DS Zeldas.
Title: Re: The NFRIT - For the games NWR left out of March Madness
Post by: Fatty The Hutt on March 12, 2014, 04:40:59 PM
Dragon Quest IX.
Title: Re: The NFRIT - For the games NWR left out of March Madness
Post by: Stratos on March 12, 2014, 04:41:20 PM
Really? Harvest Moon 64 was in the running? I didn't realize it came out that late. That one is still my favorite of the series.
Title: Re: The NFRIT - For the games NWR left out of March Madness
Post by: Mop it up on March 12, 2014, 07:15:58 PM
Of Neal's list, I would want these:
Metroid Prime 2 Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon Rhythm Heaven Fever Excitebots
Great games.
Title: Re: The NFRIT - For the games NWR left out of March Madness
Post by: Evan_B on March 12, 2014, 08:12:56 PM
The fact that Kirby's Epic Yarn is in the tournament while Wario Land isn't is pretty sickening to me considering Shake It was the much better Good Feel game. So Wario Land: Shake It easily gets my nomination.
I'm playing through Shake It! right now and by golly it's so damn good.
However, I was personally shocked and appalled by the exclusion of Pikmin 3.
Title: Re: The NFRIT - For the games NWR left out of March Madness
Post by: Khushrenada on March 12, 2014, 08:13:48 PM
I'll just dump the other games that were up for Wild Card spots and missed out
Metroid Prime 2 Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon Mario Strikers Charged Rhythm Heaven Fever Excitebots Metroid Prime Hunters Professor Layton and the Last Specter Harvest Moon 64 Animal Crossing: Wild World Super Mario Deluxe
Still no F-Zero GX. >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: The NFRIT - For the games NWR left out of March Madness
Post by: Shaymin on March 12, 2014, 10:15:28 PM
My own nomination:
The World Ends With You.
Title: Re: The NFRIT - For the games NWR left out of March Madness
Post by: rlse9 on March 12, 2014, 11:21:23 PM
I was going to have to think about this until seeing that Harvest Moon 64 did indeed come out in 1999. Best game in the series, was such a blast to play, best characters in any Harvest Moon game I've played, it expanded on what made the original great and added so much more, it's a shame that was left off the main tournament, though it probably wouldn't have made it far against more popular games.
On a side note, Natsume needs to announce a Harvest Moon game for Wii U...
Title: Re: The NFRIT - For the games NWR left out of March Madness
Post by: Soren on March 15, 2014, 09:56:22 PM
Tiger Woods PGA Tour 10.
Probably the only time the Wii held the definitive version of a sports title.
Title: Re: The NFRIT - For the games NWR left out of March Madness
Post by: Nemo on March 16, 2014, 01:12:32 PM
Kirby: Canvas Curse
Title: Re: The NFRIT - For the games NWR left out of March Madness
Post by: rlse9 on March 16, 2014, 01:32:34 PM
I agree about Tiger Woods, though I believe I have 11. That game was without a doubt one of the best uses of motion controls.
Title: Re: The NFRIT - For the games NWR left out of March Madness
Post by: Stratos on March 16, 2014, 04:12:16 PM
So we got 23 so far out of a possible 32. Nine slots left if we just go with every title mentioned so far.
1-Luigi's Mansion 2-Viewtiful Joe 3-WWF No Mercy 4-Radiant Historia 5-Conker's Bad Fur Day 6-Wario Land: Shake It 7-Metroid Prime 2: Echos 8-Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon 9-Mario Strikers Charged 10-Rythm Heaven Fever 11-Excitebots Trick Racing 12-Metroid Prime Hunters 13-Professor Layton and the Last Specter 14-Harvest Moon 64 15-Animal Crossing: Wild World 16-Super Mario Deluxe 17-Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Ages/Oracle of Seasons 18-Dragon Quest IX 19-Pikmin 3 20-F-Zero GX 21-The World Ends With You 22-Tiger Woods PGA Tour 10/11 23-Kirby: Canvas Curse
I'll add 24-Okami 25-World of Goo 26-Boom Blox 27-Trauma Center: Under the Knife
Need 5 more unless Shaymin wants to take more nominations and toss out some others.
Title: Re: The NFRIT - For the games NWR left out of March Madness
Post by: NWR_insanolord on March 16, 2014, 08:44:51 PM
Henry Hatsworth. Probably to this day my favorite DS game.
EDIT: Also, since I'm the games biggest fan in the whole world, Mutant Mudds.
Title: Re: The NFRIT - For the games NWR left out of March Madness
Post by: rlse9 on March 16, 2014, 10:41:51 PM
I can't believe I didn't realize that Okami didn't make it into March Madness. That was one of my favorite Wii games.
How about Hotel Dusk and 999? Both games had great stories, made good use of the DS hardware, and were very memorable experiences.
Title: Re: The NFRIT - For the games NWR left out of March Madness
Post by: Shaymin on March 16, 2014, 11:11:56 PM
That would get us to 31. Now, there's one game I'm wondering if we should consider that got rejected for lack of an (official) US release, and that's Mother 3. I think it should be in, but if not I do have one other game that a certain Z Miller is badgering me to include (Beyond Good and Evil).
Title: Re: The NFRIT - For the games NWR left out of March Madness
Post by: Nemo on March 16, 2014, 11:14:49 PM
Picross 3D.
Title: Re: The NFRIT - For the games NWR left out of March Madness
Post by: Stratos on March 17, 2014, 06:05:42 PM
I very much am behind having Beyond Good and Evil in. I am surprised that I didn't think of it either. It is right behind Okami in the "how could they forget that?" category.
Title: Re: The NFRIT - For the games NWR left out of March Madness
Post by: Shaymin on March 18, 2014, 10:30:58 AM
So aside from the Elite 4... 5-Conker's Bad Fur Day 6-Wario Land: Shake It 7-Metroid Prime 2: Echos 8-Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon 9-Mario Strikers Charged 10-Rythm Heaven Fever 11-Excitebots Trick Racing 12-Metroid Prime Hunters 13-Professor Layton and the Last Specter 14-Harvest Moon 64 15-Animal Crossing: Wild World 16-Super Mario Deluxe 17-Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Ages/Oracle of Seasons 18-Dragon Quest IX 19-Pikmin 3 20-F-Zero GX 21-The World Ends With You 22-Tiger Woods PGA Tour 10 23-Kirby: Canvas Curse 24-Okami 25-World of Goo 26-Boom Blox 27-Trauma Center: Under the Knife 28-Henry Hatsworth and the Puzzling Adventure 29-Mutant Mudds 30-Hotel Dusk 31-999 32-Mother 3 33-Beyond Good and Evil 34-Picross 3D
Two of the games above have to go... I know which ones I'd personally cut (hint: they start with "Metroid") but is there anything above that we should cut? I'd like to start the voting on Friday if at all possible, and there's still brackets to draw up.
Also, I recall Tiger Woods 10 reviewed better so should we go with that one?
Title: Re: The NFRIT - For the games NWR left out of March Madness
Post by: Stratos on March 18, 2014, 11:34:28 AM
I wholeheartedly agree with dropping Prime Hunters. It is thoroughly unplayable for me as a lefty and it never really seemed that interesting to me.
Prime 2 did review lower than 1 and 3 but I would be fine letting the 'lesser sibling' compete since it's brothers are in the big leagues. Though really, we shouldn't be having any of them in any of the brackets and be running Prime Trilogy instead.
It is a tough call but I'll agree with dropping both Metroid titles. Metroid is already in the big leagues and we should leave room in this match for all of the 'lesser' titles to have a shot to shine.
Title: Re: The NFRIT - For the games NWR left out of March Madness
Post by: Ian Sane on March 18, 2014, 02:42:10 PM
There are probably a good 20 games in that list worse that Metroid Prime 2. I agree with Hunters as that's just Metroid for rubes that think "first person view = FPS". It's the equivalent of turning Zelda into a platformer to appease idiots that complained about the lack of jump button in Ocarina of Time.
I would axe Super Mario Bros. Deluxe from the list because it is NOT a game from the last 15 years. It is a re-release of a game from 1985. If we're going to put re-releases on this list, why not just throw on Super Metroid because the VC release of it came out less than 15 years ago and it's a better game than that entire list. Or why not OoT 3D while we're at it?
So drop Hunters because it sucks and SMBDX because it should be unqualified for the list.
Title: Re: The NFRIT - For the games NWR left out of March Madness
Post by: Evan_B on March 18, 2014, 05:04:26 PM
I would axe Super Mario Bros. Deluxe from the list because it is NOT a game from the last 15 years. It is a re-release of a game from 1985. If we're going to put re-releases on this list, why not just throw on Super Metroid because the VC release of it came out less than 15 years ago and it's a better game than that entire list. Or why not OoT 3D while we're at it?
Well, SMBDX did add some features to the game, so it isn't a straight-up re-release like the VC Super Metroid or the GBA NES Classics series. It's probably closer to the remake side of things.
That said, I'd still agree on dropping that one from this list.
I never played Metroid Prime Hunters either so I'm fine with dropping that also.
Title: Re: The NFRIT - For the games NWR left out of March Madness
Post by: jarodea on March 18, 2014, 09:28:13 PM
I'd say SMB DX is an easy drop. The only reason compelling me to say Metroid Prime Hunters should stay is just due to the multiplayer. It wasn't very good multiplayer so it's not a terribly good reason to keep it in. The only other game that strikes me as different enough from the rest is Mother 3, which is unplayable on a Nintendo system to 98% or more outside of Japan (that's a lot more people prevented from playing than lefties who couldn't play MPH).
Title: Re: The NFRIT - For the games NWR left out of March Madness
Post by: Shaymin on March 19, 2014, 09:28:56 PM
So we dis-invite Mario DX and Hunters... I believe we have a 32, everyone.
I'll be doing the drawing tomorrow night... if you want to know what the bracket shakes out with, I'll be in the chatroom at 10pm (Eastern) for the drawing. And then there's a flood of threads here on Friday morning.
Title: Re: The NFRIT - For the games NWR left out of March Madness
Post by: Ceric on March 20, 2014, 09:20:57 AM
I got distracted by Diablo or I would have been in that Chat Room.
Title: Re: The NFRIT - For the games NWR left out of March Madness
Post by: Wah on March 20, 2014, 10:25:40 PM
Metriod:prime hunters Pokemon: Diamond and Pearl MK7 Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney The list can go on!
Title: Re: The NFRIT - For the games NWR left out of March Madness
Post by: Shaymin on March 20, 2014, 10:45:03 PM
And the draw has been made, and your first round matchups are...
Hollywood Region Viewtiful Joe (1) v The World Ends With You (8) Beyond Good and Evil (4) v Professor Layton and the Last Specter (5) Okami (2) v Mother 3 (7) Animal Crossing Wild World (3) v Picross 3D (6)
Parts Unknown Region WWF No Mercy (1) v Trauma Center: Under The Knife (8) Rhythm Heaven Fever (4) v Boom Blox (5) Conker's Bad Fur Day (2) v Henry Hatsworth (7) Dragon Quest IX (3) v Wario Land Shake It (6)
Alistel Region Radiant Historia (1) v Hotel Dusk: Room 215 (8) Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Seasons/Ages (4) v Tiger Woods PGA Tour 10 (5) Metroid Prime 2 (2) v Mario Strikers Charged (7) Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon (3) v 999: Nine Hours, Nine Persons, Nine Doors (6)
Mansion Region Luigi's Mansion (1) v Harvest Moon 64 (8) Pikmin 3 (4) v Kirby's Canvas Curse (5) World of Goo (2) v Excitebots: Trick Racing (7) F-Zero GX (3) v Mutant Mudds (6)
Polls open 9am ET tomorrow and if there are no objections, will be open for three days.
Title: Re: The NFRIT - For the games NWR left out of March Madness
Post by: Fatty The Hutt on March 21, 2014, 04:01:39 PM
How do we vote? I am not seeing polls
Title: Re: The NFRIT - For the games NWR left out of March Madness
Post by: NWR_Neal on March 21, 2014, 04:21:20 PM
