Topic: N64 worse than GC...but better?

[The Omen]

  I've ressurrected my N64 after a 3 year hiatus, and I am starting to feel the exclusive games were some of the best games ever, maybe even surpassing the GCs lineup thus far..  I just think the 64 was so underrated.  Me and my friends were having a great time with these games this weekend.  I have Goldeneye, Perfect Dark, SM64, OoT, TLOZ:MM,  Hybrid Heaven,Super smash bros, Mario party, Beetle adventure racing, Mario Kart, Golf and Tennis.   Put those up against RE, TLOZ:WW, MP, SMS, SSMB:MELEE, MKD, ED and its closer than i would've thought.  I still prefer the GC overall, but for some reason i neglected the N64 so long, even in favor of the NES and SNES.  Oh well, just goes to show you, Nintendo wins even when they 'lose'.

[Cap]

i always loved my n64. i dont own one anymore unfortunately becouse it was stolen along with everything i else i owned about 2 weeks before the gamecube came out. i'd like to pick one up again, for perfect dark if nothing else. it was and still is the best fps i have ever played. i dont think i've ever put so much time into a game.  

[Hostile Creation]

I still love my 64.  One thing I feel the cube is missing is a good Star Fox game.  Also, Kirby Air Ride is cool, but Crystal Shards is a more classic Kirby game.

And Mischief Makers.  Can't forget that.

[DrZoidberg]

shake shake ^_^

i still play my n64, hell i still play my master system, truely good games never age. oh hey, grab a copy of tetrisphere if you can find it, it's a great puzzle game (and it has good music )

[SearanoX]

'Tis called nostalgia, my friends...

Every month or so I dust off the 'ol N64 and play some stuff...it never gets old.  Good games simply don't age, much like...something I can't think of.

[The Omen]

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oh hey, grab a copy of tetrisphere if you can find it, it's a great puzzle game (and it has good music )

Thats amazing you say that, i just picked it up a few days ago for $5.  

[Smashman]

I would have loved my N64 even more if it could have had some really good RPGs. Paper Mario, Aidan Chronicles, and a few others were not enough.

I am enjoying my GCN almost too much, and is now my favorite system, but N64 was kind of... lackluster for a Nintendo console, IMO.

[The Omen]

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I am enjoying my GCN almost too much, and is now my favorite system, but N64 was kind of... lackluster for a Nintendo console, IMO.

For exclusives, it kicked ass.  But 3rd party support, as we all know, really hurt it.

[Ian Sane]

As an overall system the Gamecube is better.  It has more third party games, more mature games, and more variety.  However Super Mario 64, Goldeneye, and the N64 Zeldas are better than anything released on the Gamecube thus far.  I think the Gamecube needs more amazing killer apps that really define it and are remembered for a long time afterwards.  Metroid Prime is probably the only Nintendo published Cube title I can think of that ten years from now people will really be talking about though there are a few cult hits like Pikmin and ED that may also reach that sort of status by word of mouth.

If I was trapped on an desert island with one console and five games of my choice I would choose an N64 over a Gamecube.

[DrZoidberg]

for nintendo games n64 was better, for games in general gcn is better, i want better first party gcn support

[Ocarina Blue]

I agree. I honestly couldn't care less about 3rd party support or CD's if I can play the many brilliant 1st/2nd party games that are available. The 64 out-does the GC in my opinion, but many of it's best games were made available only near the end of it's life cycle. The GC isn't there yet. Diddy Kong Racing > the GC lineup.

[Smashman]

Yes, but OOT and MM were remade for GCN, and, IMO, WW is right up to both of their calibers.

GCN has alot of good games, and never seem to run out of quality titles to buy. NES and SNES, Nintendo were "on track". With N64, they fell off that track, with their blatant arrogance and ignorance (not switching to CDs, losing Square). With GCN, they revered back onto that "track", and learned their lesson from the N64, and are kicking ass once again with GCN.

IMO, SMS is superior to SM64, with references to their older games (play the game and you'll know what I mean), and a good leap in the series. IMO, the only superior Nintendo made game franchise that was superior on N64 than GCN was OOT (and MM), but WW comes close. N64 DID have fantastic games like Banjo-Kazooie, GoldeneEye, Perfect Dark, Diddy Kong Racing, and Killer Instinct Gold (all from Rare!), but I feel GCN is just superior, as Rare lost their quality (although Star Fox Adventures was fantastic, IMO).

However, this is only my opinion.

[Guitar Smasher]

I think the reason some people here feel that N64 was worse than GC, but better, is because of the games.  I believe that every GC sequels to N64 games are better.  Yes WW, SMS, Mario Spinoffs are ALL BETTER.  But the reason you don't feel so 'satisfied' (for lack of a better word) is because they aren't as much of an improvement compared to the N64's improvements.  We're basically talking about going from 2D to 3D.  Nowadays, you can't make a leap anywhere close to the scale, but it doesn't mean that improvements haven't been made.

[DrZoidberg]

a leap from 3d to 1d (text based games)? that would be rad.

[KDR_11k]

There should be Nethack for GBA. For those not in the know, Nethack is simply the most evolved game in existance. You can do anything, involving eating the corpse of the floating eyeball you just killed.

[TenceRiker]

I love n64 but like GC it had its flaws. However, what 64 had will beb achieve by GC this year. We are in good standing so far so MGS , FF:CC , and other exclusives will help N through the dry season.

GC > N64 ...... one question begs though.....Would n64 be as successful if there was a 3rd system during its timeline , like if a (weakened) dc had made it on the market ?

[DrZoidberg]

like the saturn?

[MysticalMatt517]

always loved my n64. i dont own one anymore unfortunately becouse it was stolen along with everything i else i owned about 2 weeks before the gamecube came out. i'd like to pick one up again, for perfect dark if nothing else. it was and still is the best fps i have ever played. i dont think i've ever put so much time into a game.

Babbages (Gamestop under a different name) has them for $30. Not a bad price. The games run from $10 - $25.  

[TenceRiker]

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like the saturn?

Yea , but if Saturn had been released when people actually gave a sh-- about CDs , I mean Saturn was too much too early , but DC-like system could have made for a more diverse market.

Today you have GC>Xbox>PS2 and sometimes it goes GC>PS2>Xbox depending on which month and what games are out...but for the casual gamer it will almost always be PS2>Xbox>GC becasue from experence I know casual gamers know very little to no depth and expect a game like madden 2004 is some sort of god-sent...silly bastards. Oh well since gamestop is allabout sales we have to keep our opinions to ourselfs.

[Uglydot]

While the n64 has nestalgia on the GCN, I still love my GCN far more than I ever did my n64.  I was a huge 64 fan, enjoying all of the exclusives, but the GCN will hold far more memories, they are honestly stacking up near my SNES.  

[Sooper Dood]

I agree with Guitar Smasher about the evolution thing. The jump from Super Mario World to Super Mario 64 was so huge compared to the jump from SM64 to SMS, mainly because when you look at them, the differences seem minimal in compariosn. From SMW to SM64, you think: "Wow, there's a whole new dimension! Imagine how much this could open up the game! So much room for new ideas and innovation!" And then the jump from SM64 to SMS, you think "Well, the graphics are better. Sound is better... the system is more powerful maybe the areas will be bigger?" It just doesn't have the same excitement for the jump. The improvements don't seem as huge. And sometimes, they even feel like it's just the same game again.

And, of course, the nostalgia thing matters, too. I mean, shows like the old Transformers, or Samurai Pizza Cats, are super amazingly cheesy, but I enjoy watching them now and then because of the nostalgia.

[Ymeegod]

Actually the GC is only 2 years old :0.   Vrs the N64 first two years it's leaps and bounds ahead of it in terms of quality and variety.  

But if you looking at just sale numbers then no,  the N64 held more of a market share then the GC is now, kinda reminds me of the ill-fated DC which road the backburner of two failed systems--the 32X and Saturn.

 

[The Omen]

The GC has more of a following than the Dreamcast.  Segas failures compared against the N64 is...no comparison.  The N64 made Nintendo plenty of cash.  

[Uglydot]

Oh good go, Samurai Pizza Cats, I loved that show!

I would say the GCN is probably ahead of the N64 was at this time.  Around now the N64 was losing ground, third parties were leaving, GCN has gained support from some big players, even if they are only "test the water" style games such as FF:CC and the new MGS version.  I also have far more games, at 22, rather than the 10 or so I had then.

[VoodooMerlin]

My favorite system of all time IS the N64. It was such a fun system. I collect all of the various peripherals and limited edition consoles and their boxes. My Pokemon Pikachu console started to give up the ghost this afternoon. Time to perform some surgery.

I just bought a mint complete copy of Diddy Kong Racing this afternoon. I never did beat Wiz Pig on his rocket the first time I owned it. This time he's going down! I just turned the console off after playing a few hours of the original Quake 64. It's still fun.

There was so much that I liked about the 64 from the get-go. Indestructible cartridge format, a console with no moving parts, 4 controller ports, a comfortable controller and the freakiest texturing around. All soft and smooth with square edges everywhere. It was a mutant at 64 bits. The expansion pak was a Godsend. From the moment I went to a friend's house on launch day and saw Mario running around in 3-d, I was hooked.

Nicest thing? You can get used games and memory cards everywhere for next to nothing. One gamer's old crap is another gamer's treasure. Next on my list is another copy of Goldeneye. The 64 collection grows.