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Title: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: NWR_DrewMG on March 18, 2009, 03:00:00 PM
EDIT:

Signups for Super MAFIA Bros. will end on Monday 3/23 at 11:00 PM CST

The game will start Wednesday Morning at 9:00 AM CST

The game: MAFIA
The setting: MUSHROOM KINGDOM
The thread: DO YOU WANT DO LIKE, PLAY AND STUFF

Depending on how quickly signups come, I'll aim to start this either on Monday the 23rd, or Wednesday the 25th. 

PROLOGUE:
Late one night, Professor E. Gadd was working in his lab on what was to be the pinnacle of his career: The "Super Heated Reticulation Ocular Oscillation Mega-gun" or S.H.R.O.O.M. Gun. which, if working correctly, could could turn ANY mushroom into a Power Mushroom!  Mario had to rescue Princess Peach from the clutches of Bowser three times this year, and was beginning to run low on his back stock of Power Mushrooms. 

The good professor got up from his chair and headed over to his bag of standard, regular plain-ol mushrooms.  He reached in the bag, pulled out a mushroom, and gave it a good once over.  It smelled like a normal mushroom, it LOOKED like a normal mushroom, and after a quick bite - it tasted like a normal mushroom.  He gave out a triumphant whoop and raced back to his desk.  He placed the mushroom on his desk, and took a few steps back, with the S.H.R.O.O.M. gun in hand.  He fired the gun at the mushroom and then BOOM! 

There was a white light... it seemed to last forever, but in reality, it was only maybe a minute.  When the light subsided, he peered at the mushroom.  Nothing had changed!  His device hadn't worked! 

But wait.... as he walked toward the mushroom, he noticed something was different.  He looked down at his legs and screeched - his pants had transformed!  Also his shoes.  Professor E. Gadd was suddenly filled with dread, and raced over to a mirror.  ACK!  He looked just like Toad!  He reached over to his shelf and grabbed a picture that was taken shortly after last month's great rescue of Princess Peach.  The picture contained Mario, Luigi, Peach, and Toad.  And after a quick comparison, YES!  E. Gadd was suddenly IDENTICAL to Toad! 

E. Gadd felt very strange, and went back to his desk to go over the plans for his device.  What had caused this?  Were there any other side effects? 

It was only a few minutes later when he heard a very loud knocking at his door.  He went to answer the door and was completely taken aback by what he saw: Dozens upon Dozens of clones of TOAD!  The gun had transformed the ENTIRE MUSHROOM KINGDOM into clones of Toad!  How strange!

One of the toads came forward, wearing a nametag that said "My Name Is Actually Princess Peach".  She was furious at the professor and started throwing vegetables at him.  He wasn't sure how she got a hold of so many vegetables, but now wasn't the time to question!

"People of the Mushroom Kingdom, I understand you're upset!  I will have NO problem transforming you all back to your normal selves, but I will need some time!   I happen to have the formula for a potion that will undo what I've done, but I will only be able to make one dose a day! For now, you've all got name tags!  That should help!"

It was then that the Toad who called himself "Princess Peach" described what had been happening down at the castle when everything had gone awry - Bowser had launched a full on assault! Bowser, as well as a number of Koopa Troopa, the Hammer Bros, and Bob-omb were all inside the castle when everyone was changed."

"We have no way of knowing who is who, except for to take their word on it!"

E. Gadd knew he was in for a stressful week...


PLAYERS SIGNED UP:
Decoyman - Toad
vudu - Birdo
Khushrenada - Waluigi
Pale - Another Toad
Maxi - Luigi
Stevey - Rosalina
Plugabugz
Dasmos - A Blooper
pap64 - Wario
ShyGuy - ShyGuy
nickmitch
ThePerm - Bowser
Spak-Spang - Rescue Yoshi
GoldenPhoenix - Wendy O. Koopa
insanolord - Waluwaluigi
Stratos - Boshi
Gylldas - Luma
Mop_it_up - Purple Birdo
SirSniffy - Pauline
RABicle
DAaaMan64 - Peach
Kashogi Y. Stogi
blackfootsteps - Chain Chomp
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: NWR_DrewMG on March 18, 2009, 03:00:15 PM
The Rules:

(plagiarized from Khushrenada, who plagiarized it from Pyropizm)

Everyday each player is allowed to vote for whomever they believe is mafia.  Since all roles remain anonymous, mafia members will vote along with the townies.

Each day a new thread will be made and will open up with a narrative.  Each player then has the chance to vote off another player.  Simply type in BOLD for whom you wish to vote.  You may change your vote as much as you like, but any old votes must remain legible.  Simply edit the post, unbold the vote, and make a new post with the new vote.

You must vote at least once every three days.  If three days pass without a vote from you, you are dead.

Every night, the mafia is able to make one hit. These are not based on calendar numbers, but rather on game days.  The only one who may contact the game-master with the kill is the Godfather.

For the townies to win, they must kill all mafia members and "Other" roles.

For the mafia to win, they only need to tie the game. I.E., there are two townies left and two mafia members left. The mafia would also have to kill the "Other" roles just the same as the townies.

For the "Other" roles to win, they would have to fulfill the requirements of their role. Those requirements are explained in each role description.

In the event of a tied vote, there will be an overtime, sudden death voting period of 30 minutes.  The only votes that may be cast are votes for one of the players who were tied in the voting.

If the tie is unresolved after 30 minutes, then the vote is nullified and both players will live to see another day.


THE ROLES:

Mafia Roles:

Godfather - King Koopa


King Koopa AKA Bowser is the godfather of the Koopa Mafia.  He is delighted at his new undercover disguise, and will use the opportunity to take down Mario and the rest of the Mushroom Kingdom.  He has the ability to kill one player at night by sending his henchmen, the Koopa Troopa.  He must choose himself, or a specific henchman to perform the hit.  If King Koopa is eliminated from the game, one of the Koopa Troopa.  This is done via a vote amongst the remaining Mafia members.    King Koopa will appear as "Townie" if he is investigated.  ONLY KING KOOPA can perform a hit on Mario without dying.

Mafia Members - Koopa Troopa

Will ascend to Godfather if King Koopa is eliminated, and voted in by peers.

Imposter- Koopa Jr.

Koopa Jr. sees this fortunate turn of events as a way to gain father with the old man.  He can choose one person a night to impersonate.  If that person is the same person that Mario investigates, then that investigation will come back "Mafia" even if the person is innocent.


Townie Roles:

Investigator - Mario

Mario was protecting the Princess from Bowser when everyone was transformed.  He has been around the kingdom a few times, and will be able to coerce a confession from anyone in town who might be lying about their identity.  He can investigate any player once a night and will learn their role.  The only Koopa Mafia member who can kill Mario safely is Bowser himself.  If any other Koopa Mafia members attempt to hit Mario, they will be killed along with Mario.

Protector - Luigi

Luigi sees this oppurtunity as a chance to finally step out of the shadow of his brother Mario, and has declared himself the "Knight in Green Armor".  He will be relentless in his pursuit of justice, and will walk the streets at night, protecting the innocent from the clutches of Bowser and the Koopa Mafia.  Luigi will choose one player to protect from death by Mafia hit, Bob-omb's attack move, or Hammer Bros. hit, and that player will be saved from death.  Luigi cannot prevent death caused by placing a hit on, or voting out, Bob-omb.  Luigi cannot protect himself from death.

Saint - Peach

Peach is revered in the Mushroom Kingdom, and has thwarted death so many times, that it is believed by most that she will never die.  If Peach is voted out by the players, then the player who INITIALLY cast a vote for Peach will be lynched and killed immediately.  If a player stars the bandwagon, but later changers their vote, then they are still responsible for the bandwagon.  Start your bandwagons carefully.

Vote changer - Wario

Wario was peddling some cheap wares in the Kingdom that day, and was turned into a Toad, just like everyone else.  The difference is, Wario's version of Toad has considerably deeper pockets.  Wario can use his financial influence to change a single vote once a day.  He can cancel a vote out, or change the name on the vote.  Wario's ability does not affect Peach's ability.  Much like a player cannot change their vote to un-bandwagon themselves, Wario cannot un-bandwagon a player.  He submits his choice at night. 

Other Roles:

Suicide Bomber - Bob-omb (potentially omitted, depending on the number of signups)

Bob-omb was working under contract with Bowser, and never much cared for him anyways.  Now is his time to strike out on his own!  If Bob-omb is voted out, he will take out everyone who voted for him.  If he is taken out by the mafia, he will take out the Godfather of the mafia.  If he is taken out by the Hammer Bros, he will kill the Hammer Bros.  Bob-omb also can take out any two members of his choosing at any time, but that action will also take Bob-omb with them.

Hammer Bros.

The Hammer Bros. are taking this oppurtunity to go into business for themselves.  They've decided the best way to take over the Mushroom Kingdom is to play both sides against each other.   The EVIL Brother still works for the Koopa Mafia, but keeps cover as a regular Koopa Troopa.  The GOOD Brother works for the Mushroom Kingdom and keeps cover as a regular townie.

The Hammer Bros., however, do not work with EITHER side.  They only work for themselves.  If the Mafia wins, the Hammer Bros. do not.  The only way for the Hammer Bros. to win is for the entire mafia to be eliminated, and for the townies to be reduced to a number of two.

The GOOD Hammer Bros. can put a hit out on a townie once a night.
The BAD Hammer Bros. can put out a hit on the mafia once a night.
They cannot both act on the same night. 

If ONE of the Hammer Bros. dies, BOTH OF THEM DIE.  If Mario investigates one of the Hammer Bros, they DO not appear as Mafia or Townie - they appear as their true role.


Think of them as a third separate faction, where the only two members are moles into both the mafia and the townies.

Win conditions:

KOOPA MAFIA: Eliminate all townies until the number of townies is equal or lesser to the number of Mafia.  Eliminate The Hammer Bros..  Eliminate Bob-Omb, the suicide bomber (if Bob-omb is in the game)

MUSHROOM KINGDOM: Eliminate all members of the Koopa Mafia.  Eliminate The Hammer Bros.  Eliminate Bob-Omb, the suicide bomber. (if Bob-omb is in the game)

HAMMER BROS: Eliminate all members of the Koopa Mafia.  Eliminate all but two members of the Townies.  Eliminate Bob-Omb, the suicide bomber. (if Bob-omb is in the game)

BOB-OMB: Be the last man standing. (potentially omitted)

Housekeeping Rules:

The Voting Day runs from 9 AM CST to 11 PM CST.

All night actions must be in by 7 AM CST so that I can use the time from 7 AM to 9 AM to prepare the story and results for the start of the new day.

Feel free to send in a revised night action, I will use whichever you send in last as your official choice.   Any two members who send in night actions that conflict with one another will be given preference by virtue of whoever sent their night action in first.

If you have any clarifications you'd like, feel free to shoot me a PM.
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: decoyman on March 18, 2009, 03:03:07 PM
I am so in.
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: vudu on March 18, 2009, 03:16:00 PM
In as Birdo because I'm a jerk.  ;)
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: Khushrenada on March 18, 2009, 03:16:16 PM
Should I play or should I go?


Hmmmm. I think I'll play. I'll take Waluigi. Wahhh. Waluigi gonna win.
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: Pale on March 18, 2009, 03:17:53 PM
I'm in.
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: BeautifulShy on March 18, 2009, 04:06:04 PM
In as Luigi.
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: NWR_DrewMG on March 18, 2009, 04:07:39 PM
Oops, Luigi is a reserved role.
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: BeautifulShy on March 18, 2009, 04:09:47 PM
So I can't be a character that has a Role. I was Charlie Brown even though that wasn't my role in the Peanuts mafia game.
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: NWR_DrewMG on March 18, 2009, 04:10:56 PM
Hmm... I guess it's not that big of a deal, since all of the characters are basically clones of toad with a nametag reading "HELLO MY NAME USED TO BE ________"

Sure, you can be in as Luigi.  It'll just give a new meaning to the phrase "IF THAT IS YOUR REAL NAME!"
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: decoyman on March 18, 2009, 04:11:51 PM
Haha, I like the cameraman lakitu. :P

Umm, I think I'll be... Toad. Just to make things confusing (or simple!).
Title: Re: MAFIA #33: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: stevey on March 18, 2009, 04:59:49 PM
*cough*

in as rosaline
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: Plugabugz on March 18, 2009, 05:11:35 PM
In.

EDIT: So i'm 6 hours ahead of everyone.
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: Mop it up on March 18, 2009, 05:37:04 PM
In as Birdo because I'm a jerk.  ;)
That's okay, I have no idea what goes on in this little forum game so I wasn't going to participate anyway. Something tells me you'll win because of the PINK POWER!
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: Dasmos on March 18, 2009, 09:18:31 PM
Hmm, I'm not sure I know how well this Koopa thing will work, but I'm in as a Blooper.
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: NWR_pap64 on March 19, 2009, 12:52:35 AM
Guess I'll sign up too, though I hope I'll be able to participate often.

Can I be Wario?
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: BeautifulShy on March 19, 2009, 01:05:25 AM
Pap have you played before?
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: ShyGuy on March 19, 2009, 02:17:53 AM
Guess which character I want to be?
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: Mop it up on March 19, 2009, 02:25:33 AM
Guess which character I want to be?
...Batman?
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: nickmitch on March 19, 2009, 02:45:00 AM
In.
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: ThePerm on March 19, 2009, 03:02:59 AM
its been a while since I've played, so I'm going to be rusty. I want to play!

In
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: Spak-Spang on March 19, 2009, 02:53:24 PM
In as the Rescue Yoshi.  More Extreme.  More MatureZ. 
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: decoyman on March 19, 2009, 02:55:59 PM
Guess which character I want to be?
...Batman?

The unspoken rule is that if you get a question wrong in a mafia sign-up thread, you tacitly agree to sign up.

So, welcome to the game! Who're you gonna choose since vudu already claimed Birdo? ;)
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on March 19, 2009, 03:12:28 PM
I'm in as Wendy O Koopa
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: NWR_insanolord on March 19, 2009, 04:18:34 PM
Khush took my pick, so I'm in as Waluwaluigi, who is to be introduced in Mario Party 11.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/InsanoLord/waluwaluigi.png)
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: BeautifulShy on March 20, 2009, 03:29:14 PM
Hmm 15 people have signed up thus far.How many people are needed so that the Bomber gets included? Also what is a good townie to mafia ratio so that the game is balanced?
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: NWR_DrewMG on March 20, 2009, 03:50:53 PM
I think I'm going to make the mafia a little larger in this one, because I think they are underpowered.  This is my first game, so hopefully I don't make it too unbalanced.

I'd say if we get 5 more, I'll go ahead and put the bomber in.  Think that's feasible?
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: BeautifulShy on March 20, 2009, 04:32:18 PM
Well there was 21 people that signed up in the AC remake game and the bomber was added.I'm not really sure how much would be good for this game.Any former hosts want to answer this question?
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: Stratos on March 20, 2009, 04:53:45 PM
I'll join.
I want to be Boshi, the cool dinosaur from Mario RPG.
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: BeautifulShy on March 20, 2009, 07:52:05 PM
Glad you signed up Stratos.
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: Gylldas on March 20, 2009, 11:37:11 PM
Ok I'll join even though this game gave me nightmares last time. >.<
I'll be Luma.
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: Stratos on March 21, 2009, 02:19:08 AM
Glad you signed up Stratos.

Glad you invited me Maxi :)
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: BeautifulShy on March 21, 2009, 02:27:14 AM
Glad you signed up Stratos.

Glad you invited me Maxi :)
Well anybody can join but I guess getting an invite is nice.
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: Stratos on March 21, 2009, 02:31:04 AM
Glad you signed up Stratos.

Glad you invited me Maxi :)
Well anybody can join but I guess getting an invite is nice.

I probably wouldn't have joined if you hadn't invited me. So that's why.

Is it part of the game to change our avatars to our chosen characters?
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: BeautifulShy on March 21, 2009, 02:39:43 AM
Glad you signed up Stratos.

Glad you invited me Maxi :)
Well anybody can join but I guess getting an invite is nice.

I probably wouldn't have joined if you hadn't invited me. So that's why.

Is it part of the game to change our avatars to our chosen characters?
Well you don't have to but it adds to the game a bit of personality.
You can even roleplay using your chosen character.Which recently there hasn't been alot of with a few exceptions.The last one I saw where there was lots of role playing was the F-Zero game.
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: Mop it up on March 21, 2009, 03:25:23 AM
That's why I turned down the offer to join. I'm not creative enough to come up with anything remotely interesting for things like this. That doesn't mean I wouldn't have tried, but it would have failed. Badly.
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: BeautifulShy on March 21, 2009, 03:53:48 AM
How are you sure that you are going to mess up if you don't give it a try.
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: Mop it up on March 21, 2009, 04:11:24 AM
I don't like to participate in collaborative writing, it's just not my thing.
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: Stratos on March 21, 2009, 04:22:19 AM
I thought we were just playing a Nintendo themed game of mafia and you could role play if you wanted. How much role playing happens in a typical game?
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: BeautifulShy on March 21, 2009, 04:29:20 AM
Yep that is the case Stratos.You can roleplay if you want to.You don't have to if you don't want to.

It varies Stratos in the past there was alot;recently not so much.
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: Stratos on March 21, 2009, 04:35:25 AM
It probably depends on the group dynamic. Some people only do it if enough of the group is as well and others will do it even if they are the only one in a room. They just love these things. I've never done anything like this in a message board so well see how I do.
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: NWR_insanolord on March 21, 2009, 08:21:12 AM
There usually aren't many people role playing; the last time more than one or two people did it was because there was a prize involved.
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: decoyman on March 21, 2009, 12:03:05 PM
Yeah, roleplaying's not required. You choose a character just so the host can write a daily story (deaths/kills/win/lose/etc.) that makes some sense. A lot of the times, if you don't choose a character, the host just assigns one for you.
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: NWR_pap64 on March 21, 2009, 02:16:42 PM
OK, I got dressed up for the occasion!

What do you guys think of my new icon?
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: BeautifulShy on March 21, 2009, 02:34:23 PM
Its nice Pap.I like mine alot.
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: Mop it up on March 21, 2009, 03:23:35 PM
Pap64: I like it, and Wario is awesome. It's kind of a shame though that bits of it are cut off due to the smallish size of author icons around here, though it still looks fine. EDIT: Also your custom title still totally fits with Wario.

Maxi: Yours kind of creeps me out a little... or is that what you were going for?
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: NovaQ on March 21, 2009, 03:40:41 PM
I don't think I'm going to have time to join this game. (Plus, Luigi is already taken!)

About mafia role-playing: I've only played once, but it seems that if there aren't many role-playing posters in the game, attempting to role play gets you killed. I guess it makes you stick out too much, and especially when there's a secret bomber in the game, it's easy for others to get suspicious of you.

Good luck, everyone!
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: decoyman on March 21, 2009, 04:16:00 PM
About mafia role-playing: I've only played once, but it seems that if there aren't many role-playing posters in the game, attempting to role play gets you killed. I guess it makes you stick out too much, and especially when there's a secret bomber in the game, it's easy for others to get suspicious of you.

Well, I don't know... when I was mafia last game, I argued with my mafia mates that we should leave Gylldas alone, solely for the fact that he was roleplaying. *shrug* Guess it depends...
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: Stratos on March 21, 2009, 04:24:55 PM
About mafia role-playing: I've only played once, but it seems that if there aren't many role-playing posters in the game, attempting to role play gets you killed. I guess it makes you stick out too much, and especially when there's a secret bomber in the game, it's easy for others to get suspicious of you.

Well, I don't know... when I was mafia last game, I argued with my mafia mates that we should leave Gylldas alone, solely for the fact that he was roleplaying. *shrug* Guess it depends...

But did they side with you in the end or override you and kill Gylldas?
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: BeautifulShy on March 21, 2009, 04:26:31 PM
Mop_it_up: This just cought my eye.I like it.
NovaQ: Sorry but its first come first serve. I'm going to try to roleplay.I guess we shall see how it works out.

Stratos:Gylldas got killed.
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: NWR_DrewMG on March 21, 2009, 08:46:21 PM
Mop it up, I think you should join.  You don't have to roleplay.  The vast majority of the players don't.  Sure, the game would be more fun if everyone did, but since most don't, you should join the game and play along.
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: BeautifulShy on March 21, 2009, 08:59:11 PM
You should give it a try Mop_it_up.If you don't like it after you play than you don't have to play again.Give it a try.:)
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: Stratos on March 21, 2009, 09:14:21 PM
Give in to peer pressure Mop_It_Up, do it now!  ;)
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: Mop it up on March 21, 2009, 10:03:57 PM
Okay, FINE, I'll give it a try, but please don't get annoyed if I make a mistake. It is likely to happen, so don't say I didn't warn you...

However, I'm not sure I understand how this game works, so could somebody please explain it? There's a lot of different roles and voting and it's all just so confusing! That's why I'm not so sure you all would want me in the game, since if I can't grasp the concept based on the rules which have already been presented then I don't know if explaining it another way will help...
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: BeautifulShy on March 21, 2009, 10:18:42 PM
Thank you for trying it out Mop_it_up.
Ok here is basically what happens during the day. Everybody can vote in the game.If you are a townie;a good guy you try and vote out the Mafia.If you are Mafia you want to try and get a vote going for a townie.Most of the stratigizing happens behind the scenes through PMs. After voting is done for the day then Night Actions happen.If you have a role than you PM the host.Which is Drew MG. Say you are the investagator you say you want to investigate me. Drew will send you the results. The Mafia gets to kill one person a night. This cycle continues till a winner is decided.

Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: Mop it up on March 21, 2009, 10:33:20 PM
Okay, does this mean you don't know what role anyone else has been given? Or do you know who else is on your side but just don't know who the special roles have been assigned to?

What happens with the person who receives the most votes in a day? The rules post says "Each player then has the chance to vote off another player"; does that mean whoever receives the most votes is dead and is out of the game?

If I'm not sure about something after the game starts, would I be able to PM Drew MG and ask him a question?
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Post by: BeautifulShy on March 21, 2009, 10:44:50 PM
The only people that knows each other are the Mafia.The Townies are just told that they are a townie or has a townie role such as Protector.The townies have to figure out who the other townies are.Nobody knows the roles at the start but the mafia know each other.

The person that receives the most votes get killed.

Yes you can ask Drew MG a question after the game starts but I think it would be best to get questions out of the way now so when the game starts you understand everything and can start trying to find out who is who.
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Post by: Mop it up on March 21, 2009, 10:57:45 PM
Ah okay, so then the Mafia players all strategize with each other via PM's and discuss ways to try and get everyone to vote for the Townies, right?

And the Townies don't know who is who, so based on the actions of other players they try to guess which ones are the Mafia and vote for one of them?

Well, I'm still trying to figure out what all of the different roles are capable of/supposed to do, so what happens if I get stuck as one of the special roles and aren't sure exactly what I'm supposed to do?
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Post by: BeautifulShy on March 21, 2009, 11:08:06 PM
You are right about both the mafia and townies and what they are supose to do.

About the Different roles what ones are you not sure of?
If you get a role you can ask Drew MG about it.I must advise you don't ask him right when you get it. There could be people watching who's online and may see what you are doing.
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Post by: Gylldas on March 21, 2009, 11:41:50 PM
About mafia role-playing: I've only played once, but it seems that if there aren't many role-playing posters in the game, attempting to role play gets you killed. I guess it makes you stick out too much, and especially when there's a secret bomber in the game, it's easy for others to get suspicious of you.
Well, I don't know... when I was mafia last game, I argued with my mafia mates that we should leave Gylldas alone, solely for the fact that he was roleplaying. *shrug* Guess it depends...

But did they side with you in the end or override you and kill Gylldas?

*facepalm*
Meh I ended up hurting the townies using my powers as Mint anyways.  If you kept me around longer I probably could've killed off a few more of 'em for ya. :P
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Post by: BeautifulShy on March 22, 2009, 12:42:46 AM
Hey Drew what day do you think the game will start? Monday or Wednesday?
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Post by: NWR_DrewMG on March 22, 2009, 01:04:43 AM
Mop_It_Up, I'll be happy to answer any questions you have during the course of the game.  Also, if anyone is interested, I'd be happy to give out my personal email address before the game starts so that you can email me for clarification without having to log into the site to do so. 

Of course, any official game actions would need to be sent through the PM system on NWR. 

You've got the gist of it, Mop.  Here's a quick and dirty on all the roles, using different language.

Mario (Investigator) - Almost every game has a basic investigator.  The purpose of this role is that he can obtain the role of any other player in the game except the godfather of the mafia.  Mario will send a PM to me after the day ends containing the name of a player he would like investigated, and I will respond with that player's role. 

Luigi (Protector) - This is another role that is present in almost every mafia game.  The protector will choose one player every night, and that player is unable to be killed by any means overnight (unless he was voted out during the day).  The mafia doesn't know who the protected player is, so they run the risk of wasting their hit at night.

Peach (Saint) - In the case of the saint, if this is the player voted out during the day, then when she is died, the remaining players will be furious, and will lynch the player who cast the first stone, so to speak.  So if you're the one who votes for the player who happens to be Peach first, and that player gets voted out, then you will die as well.  This is the kind of thing that no one would know about until the next morning, when Peach is revealed as the role of the player who was voted out.

Wario (Vote Changer) - In most cases, it will be clear by the end of the day who has lost the vote, and is voted out.  However if it is a close vote, then Wario will come into play.  Wario can change the vote of any one player to the result of his choosing, which might change the vote by the time the morning results are typed up.

Boswer (Godfather) - Bowser is the leader of the bad guys, the mafia.  If he dies, then he can choose a new godfather.  Bowser will make the final call each night as to which player he wants killed off, and also which of the mafia members will be the one responsible for that kill.  Why does it matter who is the one responsible?  For starters, in this game we have a special rule that Bowser is the ONLY mafia member who can successfully kill off Mario.  I mean, we've all seen what happens when Bowser sends a Koopa Troopa off to kill Mario, right? :)  So if the hit of the night is a player who HAPPENS to be Mario, and Bowser does not choose himself as the mafia member to make the hit that night, then the end result will be that the Mafia will lose a member instead of making a hit.

Koopa Troopa - This is just a basic mafia member.  They will discuss among themselves what the plan of action should be, and can be sent by Bowser at night to make a hit for the Mafia.  If Bowser is killed, one of them will be chosen by Bowser to be the next Godfather.

Koopa Jr. - Koopa Jr. will be able to "frame" one player every night.  He will send a PM to me during the night with the name of a player he would like to frame.  If Mario happens to be investigating that same player that night, then the investigation will be botched, and the result of the investigation will return a result of "Mafia" when in fact the player is innocent.

Bob-omb (Suicide Bomber) - We still need a few more players for this little guy to get into the game, but if he does, then he's stuck with the hardest role in the game to win with.  Bob-Omb wins if he's the last one standing.  What happens if the player who has the role of Bob-omb gets voted out?  Then EVERYONE who voted for him is killed along with him.  Also, if Bob-omb is killed by anyone overnight, then the player responsible for that action will be taken out along with Bob-omb.  There is NO safe way to eliminate this player from the game.

Hammer Bros. - These roles are fairly new to the NWR mafia games, and so I expect there to be a bit of confusion.  I think I explained it as well as I could in the inital post, but I'll do it again here just so that any questions that arise have multiple explanations to fall back on.

There are two players who will be assigned the role of Hammer Bros.  One of them will be undercover in the mafia.  The other mafia members will not know WHICH of their members is a mole, only that one of them is. The other Hammer Bros. will be undercover in the townies.  The two Hammer Bros will need to work together to stay alive, because if one of them dies, then both of them will.  The Hammer Bros. will need to try to form alliances with both the Mafia members and the townies to try to keep themselves out of peoples suspicions. 

The Hammer Bros. can both issue hits at night, but only one at a time.  The hammer bros. who is undercover Mafia can only issue hits to kill off mafia, and the hammer bros. who is undercover townie can only issue hits to kill off townies.  If the hammer bros. make a mistake and try to hit the wrong person, then the Mafia will discover which one of them is the mole.

The Hammer Bros. win when the whole mafia is gone, and the Townies are reduced to only two members. 


Okay... I think that's everything.  I hope it clears things up a little bit. 
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Post by: NWR_DrewMG on March 22, 2009, 01:05:52 AM
Right now I'm leaning toward starting on Monday.  We have a pretty decent sized group right now.  Hopefully we'll get 1-2 more signups tomorrow. 

Do you guys want the bomber in this game or not?  I'm kind of leaning away from it at this point, but if you guys mainly think it's a good idea, I'm down with it.
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Post by: BeautifulShy on March 22, 2009, 01:19:33 AM
I have a question about Bomb-omb.Lets say that one of the hammer bros hit bomb-omb and Luigi protects that hammer brother.Does that hammer brother die.Would Luigi have to protect that hammer brother before the hammer brother hit bomb-omb?
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Post by: Mop it up on March 22, 2009, 01:20:56 AM
Alright, I think I understand just about everything. Thank you Maxi and DrewMG for your patience in explaining the rules.

Oh yeah, and I'm in as Purple Birdo. Hah! Is that okay?
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Post by: NWR_DrewMG on March 22, 2009, 01:26:20 AM
Sure thing.  I'll update your character.
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Post by: BeautifulShy on March 22, 2009, 01:29:49 AM
You are welcome Mop_it_up.Glad I could help.

You know Mop_it_up with you being the purple it Birdo reminded me of the Super Mario Bros. Super Show Mario cartoon.There was a purple Birdo.
Yes I'm doing a little research on Luigi and how he acts. For those that want to role play they have the cartoons on youtube.
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Post by: Mop it up on March 22, 2009, 01:46:35 AM
You know Mop_it_up with you being the purple it Birdo reminded me of the Super Mario Bros. Super Show Mario cartoon.There was a purple Birdo.
Just one of many things the cartoon got horribly wrong. Did you also notice how the Birdos in the cartoon could fly? Weird.
I have that whole series on DVD, despite not owning a DVD player. Haven't been able to watch very many yet though. There are some really campy lines in that show, made even worse (or better?) by how flatly they are delivered.

Anyways, this gives me a chance to use my "Purple Birdo With Attitude" author icon.
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Post by: BeautifulShy on March 22, 2009, 01:54:38 AM
Yeah I got the SMBSS DVD too.I'm considering getting the Super Mario Brothers 3 DVD if I can find it.Wasn't there a Super Mario World cartoon?
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Post by: Mop it up on March 22, 2009, 01:56:33 AM
Yeah there's a Super Mario World cartoon, it might be the worst (best?) one of the three. I don't think it's on DVD, but all 12 episodes can be found on YouTube if you search for "Super Mario World Cartoon".
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Post by: BeautifulShy on March 22, 2009, 01:58:37 AM
Ok thank you.Nice Avatar.
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Post by: DAaaMan64 on March 22, 2009, 02:17:33 PM
Alright, I'm in.
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: BeautifulShy on March 22, 2009, 02:30:21 PM
Great! Who are you going to be?
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: BeautifulShy on March 22, 2009, 02:58:44 PM
Drew when are sign ups going to end?I ask this because someone wants to play but I haven't seen him online today.This person also wants to know if Pauline,Mario's girlfriend from Donkey Kong,is a viable character to be.
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Post by: NWR_DrewMG on March 22, 2009, 04:47:35 PM
Maxi,

Now that I think about it, I think Wednesday is a good start day. 

I will say that signups will end at 11 PM CST Monday night.  I will send out role assignments on Tuesday, and the game will begin Wednesday morning at 9 CST. 

As to your question about Bob-omb, I'm going to come out and say that since Bob-omb-related deaths are primarily in response to attacks on Bob-omb, that Luigi cannot protect a user from dying as a result of attacking Bob-Omb. 

So if Luigi puts protection on a Hammer Bros. (or any other character) and that Hammer Bros. dies trying to kill the Bomb overnight, then that Hammer Bros. still dies.  Luigi's protection doesn't extend to death by bomber.  Only to death by Mafia and death by Hammer Bros.
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Post by: BeautifulShy on March 22, 2009, 04:56:40 PM
Ok thanks for the answer.
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Post by: ThePerm on March 22, 2009, 06:18:01 PM
i call Bowser

(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r259/theultimateperm/bowser-1.jpg?t=1237760319)
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Post by: BeautifulShy on March 22, 2009, 06:20:37 PM
I remember that pic from a few months back.
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Post by: decoyman on March 22, 2009, 07:54:38 PM
About mafia role-playing: I've only played once, but it seems that if there aren't many role-playing posters in the game, attempting to role play gets you killed. I guess it makes you stick out too much, and especially when there's a secret bomber in the game, it's easy for others to get suspicious of you.

Well, I don't know... when I was mafia last game, I argued with my mafia mates that we should leave Gylldas alone, solely for the fact that he was roleplaying. *shrug* Guess it depends...

But did they side with you in the end or override you and kill Gylldas?

Eh... well, yes, they killed Gylldas. :-[ but that's beside the point! lol :P
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Post by: SirSniffy on March 22, 2009, 07:55:40 PM
If there's still time, I'd like to play. Sign me up as Pauline(Mario's ex before the Peach Harlot) pls.
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d141/sniffysprites/pauline.jpg)
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Post by: BeautifulShy on March 22, 2009, 07:58:01 PM
Yeah there is still time Sir Sniffy.Signups end tomorrow at 11 pm central time.
Glad you signed up.
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Post by: BeautifulShy on March 22, 2009, 08:09:02 PM
19 people have signed up. Do you guys think that is enough people so the Bomber is included?
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Post by: Stratos on March 23, 2009, 02:29:22 AM
I thought Bowser and Wario were reserved characters? Why is Pap Wario and Perm Bowser? Or did they just miss that part of the rules? Or did I misunderstand that part of the rules?

I'm fine with having the bomber included. Sounds like more mayhem and I feel like some good mayhem. Maybe I need to play some Smash Brothers  ;D

I'm excited for my first forum based mafia game. Some friends of mine play a real version where you turn all the lights off in the house and everyone has to wander around in the dark while the mafia people try to kill the townies. The bodies are either left where they are or you can hide them under tables and stuff. Once someone finds a dead body you turn on the lights and have the town meeting where everyone decides who did it and witnesses can report seeing people near the scene and court is held. It can be a really fun way to play.
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Post by: BeautifulShy on March 23, 2009, 02:57:42 AM
As I mentioned before you can be a character that has a role but you could get a role that isn't who your character. For instance I picked Luigi for my character but I could get any role.I could be a Mafia member,Bomb-omb,one of the hammer bros, a townie role,or just a normal townie.

Oh so you have played this before.If I recall correctly Vudu started with the real life Mafia game.
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Post by: NWR_DrewMG on March 23, 2009, 08:29:25 AM
Right now I'm going to stick by my original rules - if we get 20 or more in, then the Bomber is included.  Right now, we're at 19. 
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Post by: RABicle on March 23, 2009, 12:10:59 PM
Well in that case then, I'm in.

****. 10 minutes late…
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Post by: NWR_DrewMG on March 23, 2009, 12:12:46 PM
No you're not.  Signups end in 12 hours.

Welcome to the game!
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Post by: RABicle on March 23, 2009, 12:14:19 PM
Oh **** I mean **** YEAH!. Yeah it's Tuesday here.
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Post by: Khushrenada on March 23, 2009, 12:26:40 PM
Should we really start the game on a Wednesday?

Will there be a week-end pause?

Shouldn't Pale advertise the game on the main page?
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Post by: DAaaMan64 on March 23, 2009, 12:30:28 PM
I'll sign up as Peach, people seem to love obscure characters, so I'll just pick an obvious one.
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Post by: NWR_DrewMG on March 23, 2009, 12:32:30 PM
Should we really start the game on a Wednesday?

Will there be a week-end pause?

Shouldn't Pale advertise the game on the main page?

Well now that I'm starting to see more signups trickle in, I'm willing to hold the game off for another week.  It just seems like an awfully long delay. 

And yeah, there will be a break during the weekends. 
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Post by: decoyman on March 23, 2009, 12:52:48 PM
I don't really see what the difference is between starting in the middle of the week, skipping the weekend, then concluding by the end of the next week (most likely before the weekend). Either way, there's almost always a weekend to deal with.
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Post by: NWR_DrewMG on March 23, 2009, 12:54:04 PM
That was kind of my thought.
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Post by: Pale on March 23, 2009, 12:54:45 PM
Threw up a headline on the main page. Sorry I didn't get it up sooner but maybe we'll get a few more people.
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Post by: BeautifulShy on March 23, 2009, 01:09:13 PM
GDC starts this week.Starts today and goes till Friday.
If we start it this week than than the forums will probably be more active because of GDC.If we wait till next week we could get more sign ups.What say you Drew?
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Post by: Pale on March 23, 2009, 01:31:06 PM
I don't see any reason to delay it. I think he should just stick to his plan.
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Post by: BeautifulShy on March 23, 2009, 02:09:27 PM
Your probably right. Does any more staff want to sign up?
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Post by: vudu on March 23, 2009, 02:42:40 PM
Don't let Crimm play!
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Post by: Stogi on March 23, 2009, 02:46:30 PM
I'll play. Oh God.
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Post by: decoyman on March 23, 2009, 03:57:38 PM
8-bit Toad from SMB2, reporting for duty! :thumbsup; :D
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Post by: Khushrenada on March 23, 2009, 04:13:50 PM
Don't let Crimm play!

But, but, but, but last game was his triumphant return to mafia. He even said so in the sign-up thread.

I'll play. Oh God.

What? So, you skip my game? What did I do to you? Besides attack you personally in the last game you played.
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Post by: Stogi on March 23, 2009, 04:26:41 PM
Dude I suck at this game. I think the less I play, the better off everyone else is.

Plus I don't like you. :)
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Post by: Khushrenada on March 23, 2009, 05:12:26 PM
Plus I don't like you. :)

You and everyone else on this forum.
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Post by: Stogi on March 23, 2009, 05:14:26 PM
Awww....

Your ok in my book. I don't have anything against you in the slightest.
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Post by: NWR_DrewMG on March 23, 2009, 05:22:31 PM
Okay, we're past the 20 member mark.  Unless I hear a really good argument against, I'm putting the bomber into the game.

Glad to have a nice turnout for my first game.  Hope I don't ruin it!
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Post by: Khushrenada on March 23, 2009, 05:33:30 PM
Woo-hoo. I win the pity vote. I've still got it.
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Post by: BeautifulShy on March 23, 2009, 05:36:18 PM
22 people have signed up.

Drew I'll have to check the roles again to see if there will be a problem with Bomb-Omb.
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Post by: BeautifulShy on March 23, 2009, 05:42:19 PM
Hmmm the only thing which could be trouble is Koopa Jr finding out the Bomber and framing Bomb-omb as Mafia.The results as you might imagine won't be good for the townies if a vote for the bomber starts. I guess people will have to be careful.I say keep Bomb-omb in.
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Post by: Stratos on March 23, 2009, 09:20:18 PM
Hmmm the only thing which could be trouble is Koopa Jr finding out the Bomber and framing Bomb-omb as Mafia.The results as you might imagine won't be good for the townies if a vote for the bomber starts. I guess people will have to be careful.I say keep Bomb-omb in.

I think that would be hilarious. We have to keep that possiblity. If I become Bowser Jr I will make it my goal to frame the bomber and If I'm the bomber I will do everything withing my game-rule restrained power to get Bowser Jr to frame me and take out half the town.
Why do this and lose you say? I'm an agent of chaos  :P
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Post by: BeautifulShy on March 23, 2009, 09:24:55 PM
Hmmm the only thing which could be trouble is Koopa Jr finding out the Bomber and framing Bomb-omb as Mafia.The results as you might imagine won't be good for the townies if a vote for the bomber starts. I guess people will have to be careful.I say keep Bomb-omb in.

I think that would be hilarious. We have to keep that possiblity. If I become Bowser Jr I will make it my goal to frame the bomber and If I'm the bomber I will do everything withing my game-rule restrained power to get Bowser Jr to frame me and take out half the town.
Why do this and lose you say? I'm an agent of chaos  :P


You won't think it would be funny if you were a townie and you voted for Bomb-omb.
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Post by: Stratos on March 23, 2009, 09:37:41 PM
Hmmm the only thing which could be trouble is Koopa Jr finding out the Bomber and framing Bomb-omb as Mafia.The results as you might imagine won't be good for the townies if a vote for the bomber starts. I guess people will have to be careful.I say keep Bomb-omb in.

I think that would be hilarious. We have to keep that possiblity. If I become Bowser Jr I will make it my goal to frame the bomber and If I'm the bomber I will do everything withing my game-rule restrained power to get Bowser Jr to frame me and take out half the town.
Why do this and lose you say? I'm an agent of chaos  :P


You won't think it would be funny if you were a townie and you voted for Bomb-omb.

I would laugh then too. The situation would be very funny. Or do you consider this a mean and inappropriate thing to do in forum mafia? I will refrain from doing it if you or others would be genuinely frustrated and angry about it happening. I like doing crazy things like that for fun from time to time, but only when everyone else can laugh along and enjoy it as well. Imagine the type of friends I have in the non-forum world if we all do that type of stuff from time to time? We are a strange lot  ;D
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Post by: BeautifulShy on March 23, 2009, 09:51:48 PM
Hmmm the only thing which could be trouble is Koopa Jr finding out the Bomber and framing Bomb-omb as Mafia.The results as you might imagine won't be good for the townies if a vote for the bomber starts. I guess people will have to be careful.I say keep Bomb-omb in.

I think that would be hilarious. We have to keep that possiblity. If I become Bowser Jr I will make it my goal to frame the bomber and If I'm the bomber I will do everything withing my game-rule restrained power to get Bowser Jr to frame me and take out half the town.
Why do this and lose you say? I'm an agent of chaos  :P


You won't think it would be funny if you were a townie and you voted for Bomb-omb.

I would laugh then too. The situation would be very funny. Or do you consider this a mean and inappropriate thing to do in forum mafia? I will refrain from doing it if you or others would be genuinely frustrated and angry about it happening. I like doing crazy things like that for fun from time to time, but only when everyone else can laugh along and enjoy it as well. Imagine the type of friends I have in the non-forum world if we all do that type of stuff from time to time? We are a strange lot  ;D

Well it would depend on what side you are on.If you are a Mafia Member than it would be ok but now I think it would be expected now.If you were Bomb-omb than I would expect this situation at the end of the game.If you were a townie I would hope you could get a few mafia members along for the vote.Now that we discused this I don't think it will come into play.We would expect it now.
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Post by: Stratos on March 23, 2009, 09:55:58 PM
Hmmm the only thing which could be trouble is Koopa Jr finding out the Bomber and framing Bomb-omb as Mafia.The results as you might imagine won't be good for the townies if a vote for the bomber starts. I guess people will have to be careful.I say keep Bomb-omb in.

I think that would be hilarious. We have to keep that possiblity. If I become Bowser Jr I will make it my goal to frame the bomber and If I'm the bomber I will do everything withing my game-rule restrained power to get Bowser Jr to frame me and take out half the town.
Why do this and lose you say? I'm an agent of chaos  :P


You won't think it would be funny if you were a townie and you voted for Bomb-omb.

I would laugh then too. The situation would be very funny. Or do you consider this a mean and inappropriate thing to do in forum mafia? I will refrain from doing it if you or others would be genuinely frustrated and angry about it happening. I like doing crazy things like that for fun from time to time, but only when everyone else can laugh along and enjoy it as well. Imagine the type of friends I have in the non-forum world if we all do that type of stuff from time to time? We are a strange lot  ;D

Well it would depend on what side you are on.If you are a Mafia Member than it would be ok but now I think it would be expected now.If you were Bomb-omb than I would expect this situation at the end of the game.If you were a townie I would hope you could get a few mafia members along for the vote.Now that we discused this I don't think it will come into play.We would expect it now.

But it can still accidentally happen since Bowser Jr doesn't know who is a bomb, mafia or townie.
One last question, what would happen if everyone voted for the bomb who was remaining in the game? Would the bomb win since everyone dies or would the game end in a draw? And it would be possible, sometimes mafia will vote against other mafia if it means they are saved from suspicion.
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: BeautifulShy on March 23, 2009, 10:07:45 PM
First of all the Bomber is on his own side.Bomb-omb and The Hammer Brothers are on their own team.Bomber works alone and Hammer Bros work with each other.
If the Bomber exploded with everyone voting for him/her than I believe the bomber would win. Yes you can vote for a Mafia member to avoid suspicion.Keep in mind that a hammer brother is a mafia member so it might be beneficial to vote for their own.
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: Stratos on March 23, 2009, 11:51:55 PM
First of all the Bomber is on his own side.Bomb-omb and The Hammer Brothers are on their own team.Bomber works alone and Hammer Bros work with each other.
If the Bomber exploded with everyone voting for him/her than I believe the bomber would win. Yes you can vote for a Mafia member to avoid suspicion.Keep in mind that a hammer brother is a mafia member so it might be beneficial to vote for their own.

Is voting anonymous via PMs or do we just post the answers for all to see then you declare the final totals?
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: NWR_DrewMG on March 24, 2009, 12:02:19 AM
Voting is public in the daily thread.  The final totals can be altered by the Wario role, but more than likely we'll know the result by 11 PM.

By the way, signups are officially closed.  We have a 22 player game.  Massively Multiplayer, indeed.
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: Stratos on March 24, 2009, 12:17:48 AM
We have a 22 player game.  Massively Multiplayer, indeed.

Massively Multiplayer Online Forum Based Mafia Game!

(http://i729.photobucket.com/albums/ww295/SuperStratos/mmorpg.jpg)

(http://i729.photobucket.com/albums/ww295/SuperStratos/1ab6cf516ec7.jpg)
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: blackfootsteps on March 24, 2009, 02:44:11 AM
I know you say that sign ups are officially closed but in case that was a mafia related piece of trickery then I will announce that I'm throwing my head into the ring. If they have actually closed then I will slink into the corner shamefully.
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: BeautifulShy on March 24, 2009, 02:54:00 AM
Let BFS Play!!!
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on March 24, 2009, 02:55:36 AM
Let BFS Play!!!

Recovering ME fans aren't allowed to play.
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: BeautifulShy on March 24, 2009, 03:02:30 AM
Let BFS Play!!!

Recovering ME fans aren't allowed to play.
Aw come on GP.Let him play.
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: Stratos on March 24, 2009, 04:42:31 AM
Your now a recovering GP fan? Did she physically abuse you or something to cause you to be 'recovering' from something?

I'm fine with you joining if it goes to a group vote, though that might cause me to be 'recovering' from GP as well. We may need to start a support group for people recovering from GP  ;)
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on March 24, 2009, 04:48:05 AM
Your now a recovering GP fan? Did she physically abuse you or something to cause you to be 'recovering' from something?

I'm fine with you joining if it goes to a group vote, though that might cause me to be 'recovering' from GP as well. We may need to start a support group for people recovering from GP  ;)

Talk to my agent, Decoyman, my NUMBER ONE fan. I don't scuffle with the little peoples.

P.S. I have to say that blackfootstep's avatar is adorable though so I may get softer on my stance!
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: Stratos on March 24, 2009, 04:59:42 AM
Your now a recovering GP fan? Did she physically abuse you or something to cause you to be 'recovering' from something?

I'm fine with you joining if it goes to a group vote, though that might cause me to be 'recovering' from GP as well. We may need to start a support group for people recovering from GP  ;)

Talk to my agent, Decoyman, my NUMBER ONE fan. I don't scuffle with the little peoples.

P.S. I have to say that blackfootstep's avatar is adorable though so I may get softer on my stance!

So then if I picked out really cute avatars I could possibly convince you to not vote to kill me in mafia? I already know you don't like my regular one because he looks guilty of a crime  :P
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on March 24, 2009, 05:02:16 AM
Your now a recovering GP fan? Did she physically abuse you or something to cause you to be 'recovering' from something?

I'm fine with you joining if it goes to a group vote, though that might cause me to be 'recovering' from GP as well. We may need to start a support group for people recovering from GP  ;)

Talk to my agent, Decoyman, my NUMBER ONE fan. I don't scuffle with the little peoples.

P.S. I have to say that blackfootstep's avatar is adorable though so I may get softer on my stance!

So then if I picked out really cute avatars I could possibly convince you to not vote to kill me in mafia? I already know you don't like my regular one because he looks guilty of a crime  :P

Maybe then again you stole Greg's favorite character and Greg is the best, so I may hold a grudge.
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: Stratos on March 24, 2009, 05:05:58 AM
Your now a recovering GP fan? Did she physically abuse you or something to cause you to be 'recovering' from something?

I'm fine with you joining if it goes to a group vote, though that might cause me to be 'recovering' from GP as well. We may need to start a support group for people recovering from GP  ;)

Talk to my agent, Decoyman, my NUMBER ONE fan. I don't scuffle with the little peoples.

P.S. I have to say that blackfootstep's avatar is adorable though so I may get softer on my stance!

So then if I picked out really cute avatars I could possibly convince you to not vote to kill me in mafia? I already know you don't like my regular one because he looks guilty of a crime  :P

Maybe then again you stole Greg's favorite character and Greg is the best, so I may hold a grudge.

Greg Leahy from the podcast Greg? Is this his character? I thought his avatar was Yoshi. Was he even going to play? Now your making me feel bad for jacking a character. (And I thought I had picked an original one too)
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on March 24, 2009, 05:09:29 AM
Your now a recovering GP fan? Did she physically abuse you or something to cause you to be 'recovering' from something?

I'm fine with you joining if it goes to a group vote, though that might cause me to be 'recovering' from GP as well. We may need to start a support group for people recovering from GP  ;)

Talk to my agent, Decoyman, my NUMBER ONE fan. I don't scuffle with the little peoples.

P.S. I have to say that blackfootstep's avatar is adorable though so I may get softer on my stance!

So then if I picked out really cute avatars I could possibly convince you to not vote to kill me in mafia? I already know you don't like my regular one because he looks guilty of a crime  :P

Maybe then again you stole Greg's favorite character and Greg is the best, so I may hold a grudge.

Greg Leahy from the podcast Greg? Is this his character? I thought his avatar was Yoshi. Was he even going to play? Now your making me feel bad for jacking a character. (And I thought I had picked an original one too)

Yes that Greg, aka the Greggers aka Yoshi's biggest fan. He isn't playing the game but is probably heart broken you have stolen his beloved Yoshi dinosaur.
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: Stratos on March 24, 2009, 05:17:53 AM
Your now a recovering GP fan? Did she physically abuse you or something to cause you to be 'recovering' from something?

I'm fine with you joining if it goes to a group vote, though that might cause me to be 'recovering' from GP as well. We may need to start a support group for people recovering from GP  ;)

Talk to my agent, Decoyman, my NUMBER ONE fan. I don't scuffle with the little peoples.

P.S. I have to say that blackfootstep's avatar is adorable though so I may get softer on my stance!

So then if I picked out really cute avatars I could possibly convince you to not vote to kill me in mafia? I already know you don't like my regular one because he looks guilty of a crime  :P

Maybe then again you stole Greg's favorite character and Greg is the best, so I may hold a grudge.

Greg Leahy from the podcast Greg? Is this his character? I thought his avatar was Yoshi. Was he even going to play? Now your making me feel bad for jacking a character. (And I thought I had picked an original one too)

Yes that Greg, aka the Greggers aka Yoshi's biggest fan. He isn't playing the game but is probably heart broken you have stolen his beloved Yoshi dinosaur.

But I'm not Yoshi, I'm Boshi. Did you not play Mario RPG? Boshi is different from Yoshi and...your just teasing me again, aren't you. Well played GP, well played :P
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on March 24, 2009, 05:19:46 AM
Boshi and Yoshi are one of the same. Yoshi is a species. So take that Greg feeling hurter who didn't ask for his permission!

Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: Stratos on March 24, 2009, 05:32:36 AM
Boshi and Yoshi are one of the same. Yoshi is a species. So take that Greg feeling hurter who didn't ask for his permission!

So I jacked his species? He can have the green ones. Let me have the blue/purple ones. You can have the golden Yoshis. Then when they use their final smash you will be pretty darn close to a 'golden phoenix'.
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: blackfootsteps on March 24, 2009, 06:53:22 AM
Let BFS Play!!!

Recovering ME fans aren't allowed to play.

But...but...you're always wrong ;) So that means BFS can play! At least until Drew tells me no!

And yes, my avvy is awesomely cute, mmm mummified dog.
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: NWR_DrewMG on March 24, 2009, 08:00:40 AM
I haven't done any role assignment yet - so BFS can play.  Welcome to the game! 

Okay, signups are over now for-reals so that I can actually put together the role assignments.
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: NWR_DrewMG on March 24, 2009, 08:03:07 AM
Still looking for characters from the following people:

Pale
Plugabugz
nickmitch
RABicle
Kashogi Y. Stogi
blackfootsteps

If you don't pick one, then you'll probably just be generic Mushroom Kingdom. 

Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: decoyman on March 24, 2009, 08:32:07 AM
Now, now, everyone hold on just a minute here.

Toad steps out of the shadows, removes his dark sunglasses and straightens his tie and sportcoat.

Ms. Phoenix is a very busy woman, and doesn't have time for all this. But as her agent, I'll of course be happy to take your questions.
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: blackfootsteps on March 24, 2009, 08:32:40 AM
Great!

Is chain chomp taken? If not I will assume that role I think.
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: NWR_DrewMG on March 24, 2009, 08:45:45 AM
Right on. 

Okay, Random.org has been consulted, and roles have been assigned.  I'll try to get them out this morning sometime, so you can have the rest of the day to strategize.
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: NWR_DrewMG on March 24, 2009, 08:52:33 AM
A quick sneak peak - numbers are breaking down like such:

Total Mafia: 6 (1 of which is a Hammer Bros)
Total Townies: 16 (1 of which is a Hammer Bros.)

If you're thinking that sounds like a pretty high percentage of mafia, it's because I decided a few days ago that they were at a bit of a disadvantage due to the mole, so I bumped up their numbers 5% or so. 
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: NWR_DrewMG on March 24, 2009, 09:09:20 AM
Hmm... I'm starting to see some flaws in the rules that I wrote, and I'm wondering if it's too late to make some adjustments, before the game starts.

I wrote that only Bowser can kill Mario, which makes sense until one of the other members TRIES to kill Mario, and I have to suddenly explain to the entire group why the hit failed.  It outs Mario to the game, and that has serious consequences.   

Secondly, if Bowser dies, and chooses the Hammer. Bros to be the new godfather, the mafia is effectively screwed. 

Suggestions for workarounds on these points?
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: blackfootsteps on March 24, 2009, 09:37:07 AM
Maybe the Mafia's hit success rate is set at 90%. This way the Mafia wouldn't be sure whether it was a failed hit because of Mario or because of their own ineptitude at the killing arts.
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: Pale on March 24, 2009, 10:02:54 AM
Can I just be a generic toad person different from THE toad? =P

Anyone have an avatar for me?
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: Stogi on March 24, 2009, 10:15:07 AM
(http://collegeotr.s3.amazonaws.com/images/blogs/97b5276c676a1d77b6d644762f377698.jpg)

That's the only picture I could find.
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: decoyman on March 24, 2009, 10:34:43 AM
What if, after the godfather dies, instead of a NEW godfather being chosen, the remaining mafia members have to each send in a hit. If there's a majority, you go with that target. If it's a tie, you use your randomosity to decide who the target is.
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: Khushrenada on March 24, 2009, 10:42:37 AM
Hmm... I'm starting to see some flaws in the rules that I wrote, and I'm wondering if it's too late to make some adjustments, before the game starts.

I wrote that only Bowser can kill Mario, which makes sense until one of the other members TRIES to kill Mario, and I have to suddenly explain to the entire group why the hit failed.  It outs Mario to the game, and that has serious consequences.  

Secondly, if Bowser dies, and chooses the Hammer. Bros to be the new godfather, the mafia is effectively screwed. 

Suggestions for workarounds on these points?

I wouldn't call those problems per say. The mafia loses a member due to the hit and even if Mario is revealed, that means the doctor could then protect him at night to prevent the mafia from capitalizing on this fact. Of course, if the doctor is dead before, not much can be done for protection.

Of course, you don't have to tell every detail in the story and if you wanted, you could just say the person was protected from the mafia hit. Thus, the mafia would be unsure if the person was Mario or was protected by the doctor and thus the hit didn't work. At the same time, you couldn't reveal the target because the doctor would know who he protected and this would tell him who Mario is.

As for the second problem, I just figured that was part of the strategy for the hammer bros. Not to mention, the killer or bob-omb could take out one of the Hammer Bros killing them both. There's always the daily vote as well to kill one of the hammer bros.
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: NWR_DrewMG on March 24, 2009, 10:59:27 AM
Well considering that Mario has immunity from the Mafia (sans bowser) I'm going to consider it a side effect of that immunity that if such immunity is needed, his cover is blown.  It'll be up to Luigi to protect his brother if that goes down.

This has the potential to be disastrous.  I guess we're going to find out!

As to the Hammer Bros. as godfather suggestion, here is my proposed workaround:

In the event that the godfather of the mafia dies, the remaining members will all vote for a new godfather.  If there is a tie in the vote, then I will choose one of them at random.

This way, if the Mafia votes in the Hammer Bros - they have done themselves in.
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: Khushrenada on March 24, 2009, 11:00:58 AM
What I want to know is this: If Bowser dies and Mario is still alive, does the new godfather have the power to kill Mario or does only the original godfather, Bowser, have that power? Can the Hammer Bros. kill Mario? You stated that the doctor can not protect someone who had targetted bob-omb for a hit. What about if bob-omb decides to blow himself up and take some people with him. Can the doctor protect a person from bob-omb targetting them? Can the doctor protect himself?

If someone starts a bandwagon against Peach and Wario changes that person's vote, would that person still face the Peach backlash? Could Wario change someone's vote so that they become the leader of a bandwagon? Does a person have to have voted for Wario to change his vote? Can Wario change his own vote? What happens if a tie occurs and Wario doesn't break it or is dead?
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: NWR_DrewMG on March 24, 2009, 11:13:11 AM
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What I want to know is this: If Bowser dies and Mario is still alive, does the new godfather have the power to kill Mario or does only the original godfather, Bowser, have that power?

Only Bowser can kill Mario.  If Bowser goes down, Mario cannot be killed by the Mafia.

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Can the Hammer Bros. kill Mario?

Yes. (At least they could when I played Super Mario Bros. - and they did.  OFTEN!)

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You stated that the doctor can not protect someone who had targetted bob-omb for a hit. What about if bob-omb decides to blow himself up and take some people with him. Can the doctor protect a person from bob-omb targetting them?

I actually didn't write Bob-Omb as an offensive character, just defensive.  I kind of forgot that the Bomber can do that in most games.  I will revise his character to include an offensive attack, and in this case, the doctor would be able to protect the bomber's attack move, but NOT the bomber's defensive ability.  Does that make sense?

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Can the doctor protect himself?

Absolutely.

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If someone starts a bandwagon against Peach and Wario changes that person's vote, would that person still face the Peach backlash?

Now that is an excellent question.  I would say that Wario changing someone's vote is equivalent to someone changing their own vote, and thus does not have an effect on death by lynching.  In other words, Wario's action does not stop someone from dying via Peach's ability.

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Could Wario change someone's vote so that they become the leader of a bandwagon?

Going by the same logic, I'm going with "no" on this one.  He can change the content of the vote, but this does not change who started the bandwagon.

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Does a person have to have voted for Wario to change his vote?

Yes.

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Can Wario change his own vote?

Yes.

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What happens if a tie occurs and Wario doesn't break it or is dead?

Hmm, it appears I did not write any tiebreak rules.  I'll do it now, and revise the original post.  I liked your rules from Mafia 31, so I'll stick with them here.

In the event of a tied vote, there will be an overtime, sudden death voting period of 30 minutes.  The only votes that may be cast are votes for one of the players who were tied in the voting. 

If the tie is unresolved after 30 minutes, then the vote is nullified and both players will live to see another day.
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: NWR_DrewMG on March 24, 2009, 11:19:21 AM
Okay, I'm going to start sending the roles out now.
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: decoyman on March 24, 2009, 11:31:25 AM
Whoa, two things:

Luigi being able to protect himself is maybe too much power. What's to stop him from just saying, "Hey, I'm Luigi, everyone. Mario, investigate me tonight for proof. I'll be protected against mafia hits for the rest of the game!, so come on and join the townie bandwagon!"

Also, it may be a bit overpowered to have Mario – who also is the investigator and will be gaining advantages every night for the entire time he is alilve – be potentially unkillable for the mafia. Maybe one hit will be stoppable, but the next will succeed? Like he loses his ability to investigate after the first hit non-bowser hit, then the second time the mafia hits him, he dies. (kinda like going from Super Mario to Little Mario then to Dead Mario, you know?).

I mention both of these scenarios because they take some of the fun out of "classic" mafia, of not knowing for sure who's who, of always having some degree of doubt. That's the prime quality in a mafia game that, to me, makes it so much fun.
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: NWR_DrewMG on March 24, 2009, 11:57:33 AM
You bring up very good points  - which is why I was going to observe a few more games before I hosted one. 

Hmm, what do you guys think?  We still have some time, I'm still open to rule revisions.  Decoyman makes some very good points that I clearly hadn't given much thought too.  I guess I was under the impression that the doctor being able to protect himself was a pretty standard mafia rule.

Anyways, I decided to send the roles out one at a time, which means that I need to wait an hour before I can send the last few people their roles.  Oops.
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: Pale on March 24, 2009, 12:38:38 PM
I gave Drew mod permissions in the mafia forum, and I left Khush's in place so he can still help out. It won't give him any unfair advantages so don't worry about that.  If it did, then I would have unfair advantages =P

As for the rule changes... I'm all for totally experimental games of mafia... in my opinion if problem we'll find out during the game and know not to do it next time. =P
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: NWR_DrewMG on March 24, 2009, 12:40:38 PM
I'm done working at 3:30 CST.  When I leave today, it's my goal to have any rule changes in place by then, so that they are firmly in place before the game starts.

If there's any rule changes, I'll make sure to PM any affected roles.

Speaking of which, all of the roles have been sent out.  If you didn't get it, let me know and I'll resend.
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: Pale on March 24, 2009, 12:43:43 PM
Drew I think it's important to make it clear whether or not you sent roll PMs out to every member or just members with rolls.

That's another lame-ass question people ask to try and snuff out mafia and those kind of 4th wall tactics piss me off.
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: NWR_DrewMG on March 24, 2009, 12:45:04 PM
I sent a PM to every single player of the game, stating what their role would be.   That includes townies.
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: Khushrenada on March 24, 2009, 01:05:34 PM
General mafia rule is usually not to let the doctor protect himself. Otherwise, the only way to kill him is through the vote and that can be hard to do. Except through Peach backlash maybe. Or a bob-omb vote. Otherwise, the player is pretty much gaurenteed to make it to the end. Of course, maybe I shouldn't complain. Maybe I'll get lucky and be a self- protecting doctor for once. That would be nice.
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: Stogi on March 24, 2009, 01:07:17 PM
Khush is playing?!?!?!?!
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: NWR_DrewMG on March 24, 2009, 01:08:51 PM
Well in that case I think I'm willing to revise that rule for Luigi unless there's any protest. 

Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: Khushrenada on March 24, 2009, 01:31:42 PM
Khush is playing?!?!?!?!

Yeah. It's a bit unusual for me. I thought I'd try something new.
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: Stogi on March 24, 2009, 01:37:25 PM
I just hope your on my side.
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: Khushrenada on March 24, 2009, 01:45:45 PM
Always am.
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: NWR_DrewMG on March 24, 2009, 03:20:48 PM
Well, no one's really chimed in with their opinions on the Mario & Luigi roles that decoy talked about.

I am leaning toward changing the Luigi role so that he can not protect himself.

Also, I like the idea that it takes two hits from the non-bowser members of the Mafia, but the question remains - if I change that rule, should I also change the rule that a non-bowser mafia member will die if they try to hit Mario?

Now that you all have your roles, it's a little harder to accept feedback from the crowd. :)  I'll give it some thought, and make a decision before I leave for the day at 3:30 CST.
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: Stratos on March 24, 2009, 04:15:52 PM
In real life mafia I've found that it is generally frowned upon when someone protects themselves the whole game. I think it is a pansy thing to do.
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: NWR_DrewMG on March 24, 2009, 04:32:56 PM
Agreed, but I'll remove the option regardless.

Okay, here are the revised rules for Mario:

Previous I said that once Bowser died, Mario became non-hittable by the Mafia.  I think perhaps that makes Mario a bit too strong, so I'm going to revise the role to say that when any member of the Mafia who ISN'T Bowser places a hit on Mario, the hit will be successful, but that Mafia member will be killed in the process. 

I'll send PMs to the Mafia & to Mario to notify them of this rule change and update the rules post.
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: decoyman on March 24, 2009, 06:15:55 PM
Ah, good call. I think that's probably more fair.
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: Mop it up on March 24, 2009, 06:32:47 PM
Somethings tells me this game may be too complex for it to be any fun... :-\
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: NWR_DrewMG on March 24, 2009, 06:35:24 PM
If that's because the rules have changed a few times over the course of this thread, you have my apologies.  This is the first game that I've run, and I wanted to rely on the mafia veterans as much as I could to make sure the game was balanced.

Now that the rules are set, and everyone knows what their objectives are, I think things should be getting fun.  Hopefully we'll see some threads evolve throughout the next few days.
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: Mop it up on March 24, 2009, 06:42:07 PM
Well I hope so, because whenever any game just turns into a discussion about the rules (even if they aren't arguments) it really detracts from the enjoyment.
Title: Re: MAFIA #32: Super MAFIA Bros. ***SIGN UP THREAD***
Post by: NWR_DrewMG on March 24, 2009, 06:43:18 PM
Agreed - which is why that is over, and the game starts tomorrow. :)