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Title: [Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: wandering on November 07, 2006, 06:54:38 AM


Discuss goings-on, who you suspect, and anything else here.              
Title: RE: [Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: 18 Days on November 07, 2006, 07:34:11 AM
I'm still not 100% clear.
I'm guessing we can't actually vote for Mario, BlackNMild and other knwon mafia rite? We're trying to hit their proxys.
I'll change my vote later.
Title: RE: [Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: Ceric on November 07, 2006, 07:36:07 AM
I'm sort of confused by the people who were maimed already.
Title: RE: [Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: 18 Days on November 07, 2006, 07:37:02 AM
But were they even signed up to play in the first place? I don't think so.
Title: RE:[Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: decoyman on November 07, 2006, 07:38:18 AM
(does best Krystal impression)

Oh, Fox, get me out of here! I'm at least glad these rooms are airtight! What forward thinking on the part of the hotel people!

(ok, the impression was pretty lousy and I apologize for that.)
Title: RE: [Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: wandering on November 07, 2006, 07:43:41 AM
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I'm guessing we can't actually vote for Mario, BlackNMild and other knwon mafia rite? We're trying to hit their proxys.

Rite. Although you couldn't vote for them anyway because they didn't sign up.

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I'm sort of confused by the people who were maimed already.

It's a mafia tradition (well, at least in my games) to start by brutally killing off people who didn't sign up (edit: oh, if you're wondering why they were maimed instead of killed, I'm trying to be true to the videogames, where no one ever really dies. Anyone who is said to be severely injured is, for all intents and purposes, dead.)

Anyway. There are now basically 2 secret mafia members you are trying to vote out. They are protecting 2 not secret mafia members (blackfootsteps and mystic gohan), who will be killing the townies off.  
Title: RE: [Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: Ceric on November 07, 2006, 08:17:55 AM
Girl Power W00t.  Those lazy guys.
Title: RE: [Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: Zach on November 07, 2006, 08:49:34 AM
My vote for now is only a revenge vote.

Edit: No offense Dasmos, I decided a vote to get myself out of a tie makes more sense than a revenge vote. Its likely to change once more votes come in.
Title: RE: [Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: 18 Days on November 07, 2006, 09:03:41 AM
My vote was only a "hadn't posted yet" thing.
Title: RE: [Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: Zach on November 07, 2006, 09:12:52 AM
yeah, I figured that, none of the votes are concrete right now.
Title: RE: [Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: NWR_DrewMG on November 07, 2006, 10:10:15 AM
Well, I don't know any of you guys yet, so I'm gonna sit back and watch for awhile.

But I'm suspicious.  VERY suspicious.  Of *YOU* in particular.
Title: RE: [Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: MysticGohan on November 07, 2006, 11:35:20 AM
hehe, I'm gonna kill you all! Mwhahahaha.. Ahem, Enjoy your stay, while it lasts
Title: RE: [Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: blackfootsteps on November 07, 2006, 02:24:41 PM
Wolf's Wisdom: "Don't hesitate. When the time comes, just act!"
Title: RE:[Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: Sir_Stabbalot on November 07, 2006, 03:02:13 PM
Know criminals out in the open, yet no attempts to arrest them? Is your law enforcement system normally this slow? No offense, I'm just use to the Cohortes Urbanae dealing with public disturbances swiftly.
Title: RE: [Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: Ceric on November 07, 2006, 03:07:45 PM
Are system is very democratic.
Title: RE:[Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: Sir_Stabbalot on November 07, 2006, 03:11:00 PM
Ah, so your government is a Republic, I presume? Our civilizations are not as different as they seem.
Title: RE: [Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: Ceric on November 07, 2006, 03:13:10 PM
Oh... I meant corrupt and full of Red tape.  I can see how that can be confused.
Title: RE:[Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: Sir_Stabbalot on November 07, 2006, 03:19:39 PM
Hm, that's a nasty situation. We ran into the same thing after Terra was mostly pacified under Republic rule. Our way was to engineer civil wars. Sure it's messy, but nothing thins the ranks of the patricians like a couple of good purges after a tough fight. Keeps the Legions in shape, too.
Title: RE:[Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: Khushrenada on November 07, 2006, 05:37:53 PM
Nothing personal Stabby, but I decided to vote a certain way this game. Basically, I'm voting for anyone who doesn't vote. Since there is only 12 people playing, we don't have much time to weed out the traitors. Therefore, I'm voting for anyone who doesn't vote. We need everyone to vote so that we can look back at the records and see who voted for who. We can't have what happened in S-U-P-E-R'S game happen here, where people were hardly showing up and there were numerous suspects. If you are a townie and you aren't voting, you are only helping the mafia confuse everyone.
Title: RE: [Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: 18 Days on November 07, 2006, 05:55:59 PM
Of course, Stabbys quiet nature in SUPER's game led to a townie vistory.
Title: RE: [Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: Zach on November 07, 2006, 05:58:32 PM
no offense spak, self-preservation.
Title: RE: [Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: 18 Days on November 07, 2006, 05:59:23 PM
this wagon got wheels!
Title: RE:[Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: Khushrenada on November 07, 2006, 06:08:37 PM
The remaining players quiet nature almost led to a mafia victory. Seroiusly, it was getting close in that game and I think if Wandering hadn't returned from the dead. They might have pulled out. As it stands right now, we've had one day of voting with a couple no-shows and a vote that doesn't count. If it turns out that a townie was voted out and the mafia hits a townie. We have a situation of 8-2 and we have less evidence to go on. This could turn out to be a harder mafia game than I thought.
Title: RE: [Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: MysticGohan on November 07, 2006, 06:17:05 PM
lol, I love you guys! Don't worry there will be a place for you in our New World Order
Title: RE: [Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: blackfootsteps on November 07, 2006, 06:39:16 PM
Wolf's wisdom: “Keep your advice to yourself and your eyes front, pup”
Title: RE:[Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: Zach on November 07, 2006, 07:30:05 PM
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Originally posted by: 18 Days
this wagon got wheels!
Except Spak was the one who started the wagon.  I wonder if this is the first time someone killed themself by starting such a bandwagon?  
Title: RE:[Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: Khushrenada on November 07, 2006, 07:40:38 PM
Well, it reminds me of Frozen Atlantic who voted for himself, causing a tie and then both he and the other person with the most votes died. Speaking of which, I haven't really seen Frozen Atlantic since that game. Too bad. He qouted me in his signiture.

Still, this vote really sucks guys. Spak-Spang was voted out in like the first or second day last game. He did absolutely nothing worng this game and he deserved better treatment then being quickly dumped on like this. How many of the new players from last game signed up for this one? Oh, that's right. Only one. Spak-Spang. And what did he get for this loyalty? A swift kick to the head. Did you notice how many people signed up for this game? How is it ever going to grow if new ones are rejected and longtime players don't show up? Even if you thought he was mafia, you could have waited a day or two. I was willing to give him the benefit of a doubt and a chance to play.
Title: RE: [Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: 18 Days on November 07, 2006, 10:17:51 PM
I don't know about this robot guy hanging around. Who is he? I havent met him before and I think he's obviously acting as a proxy. I'll be trusting my fiance beforet him.
Title: RE: [Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: wandering on November 08, 2006, 04:45:05 AM
(just a heads up to TVMan - you need to post in a mafia thread today or you'll die.)

(Oh - one other thing. This is for everybody. I've decided we will be taking a break over the weekend. There are so few players that there's no risk of running into the Wii launch. I hope no one canceled a weekend trip to the Bahamas so they could play.)
Title: RE: [Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: decoyman on November 08, 2006, 05:15:14 AM
Gah, come on guys, Spak was killed on day 1 last game too. Poor Spak...

(though... dinosaur blood? Perhaps our jovial little friend wasn't as innocent as we thought...)
Title: RE: [Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: blackfootsteps on November 08, 2006, 05:15:58 AM
So Fox has survived day one eh?

Wolf's wisdom: "Don't get too cocky, Star Fox" because "you're in my sights and you're going down!"  
Title: RE: [Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: wandering on November 08, 2006, 05:32:42 AM
Oh, important rule change I forgot to mention: Since Andross isn't playing, Wolf's protector will appear innocent to the investigator.

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(though... dinosaur blood? Perhaps our jovial little friend wasn't as innocent as we thought...)

Naw, that was just his blood. From being injured in the explosion.
Title: RE: [Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: Ceric on November 08, 2006, 06:10:12 AM
Darn Quarts of Dino blood in measured quantities sounded amusing.
Title: RE: [Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: NWR_DrewMG on November 08, 2006, 06:15:41 AM
I'm with Pepper on this.  Sucks to be voted out two on day one, two games in a row.  Poor little guy.

This is my first game, so I'm still kind of feeling out the crowd, but I think I've got my day two vote.
Title: RE: [Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: decoyman on November 08, 2006, 07:17:00 AM
So, no dinosaur vampires then? I guess that's a relief...  
Title: RE: [Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: NWR_DrewMG on November 08, 2006, 07:58:57 AM
A Castlevania Mafia... now THAT'S a thought.
Title: RE:[Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: Sir_Stabbalot on November 08, 2006, 09:21:12 AM
Alright, all we need to do is vote for the people constantly bandwagoning against innocents and we'll survive. Now, I can be certain I'm not the culprit, nor are any of the vacationers who have met their end (unless your people know how to create space zombies). So far 18Days was voting for an innocent, so I've found a suspect.

Of course, I can't be certain that I'm correct, and if 18Days turns out to be innocent, I've just incriminated myself...
Title: RE: [Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: MysticGohan on November 08, 2006, 09:24:39 AM
hehe, I luv ya stabby! Are we gonna deck the halls with Bowles of Venture? I think so
Title: RE:[Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: Khushrenada on November 08, 2006, 09:41:02 AM
Again, nothing against you Stabby but you never voted yesterday. In fact, there were quite a few absentee votes and voters.

Drew never voted yesterday
Stabby did not vote yesterday
TVMan did not vote yesterday
Stevey voted for someone not even in the game
Decoyman just voted unspecifically.

Today, Decoyman and Drew have voted which is good but so far there's been nothing from TVMan or Stabby and a real vote from Stevey would be nice.
Title: RE:[Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: Sir_Stabbalot on November 08, 2006, 09:41:16 AM
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Originally posted by: MysticGohan
hehe, I luv ya stabby! Are we gonna deck the halls with Bowles of Venture? I think so


Erm, excuse me? I think my translator is on the fritz. What did you say?  
Title: RE:[Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: Khushrenada on November 08, 2006, 09:43:53 AM
Well, that last message was outdated. Sorry Stabby, I had been typing that message and then got talking to someone else. I just finished typing it and posted it.
Title: RE:[Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: Sir_Stabbalot on November 08, 2006, 09:45:13 AM
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Originally posted by: Khushrenada
Well, that last message was outdated. Sorry Stabby, I had been typing that message and then got talking to someone else. I just finished typing it and posted it.


Wow, same here.
Title: RE: [Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: Zach on November 08, 2006, 10:35:11 AM
My vote for now is on behalf of our dead buddy spak, I feel bad about voting him out (even though it was self preservation), so I am voting vudu, who took Spak's joke vote and turned it into a bandwagon.

Edit: Oops, should've checked Rob's latest update first, gotta change my vote now.

Edit2: decided to do like everyone else and vote for TVman, since he has not shown up yet.  That way, if he never shows up, then we only lose him, instead of him plus somebody who has been around.
Title: RE: [Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: stevey on November 08, 2006, 12:03:43 PM
HAHAHAHA! What an idoit, R.O.B didn't lock the doors to the Greatfox and even left the keys in. Screw racing I going to take over the galaxy the old-fashion way of blow stuff up! A hotel up ahead, I think I'm gonna ram it *Ram the  hotel* D@mn the ship is stuck, and their poison gas out side!?! Hmmm, only the evil of BnM could of done this! *fires lazer beam/rockets at BnM* What, he being protect!?! The monster who doing this will pay! *Setting lazer to VOTE*
Title: RE: [Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: nickmitch on November 08, 2006, 01:30:08 PM
Ok, why is everyone voting for me?? I didn't do anything!
I plead my innocence.
Title: RE: [Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: Zach on November 08, 2006, 01:51:47 PM
oh, your here now.  Changing vote to non-conformist Stevey.
Title: RE:[Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: Sir_Stabbalot on November 08, 2006, 03:29:52 PM
I've placed every pointed utensil I could find under the air vent, so no one is getting past that. The door is locked and barricaded so well I don't think I'll be able to get out.  I've clogged the sink with peanut butter just in case. Well, I should be fine for tonight.

Even if they got past my seemingly elaborate defenses, I'm wearing the latest Mark III biomechanical Praetorian Guard powered battle armor. The link to my nervous system is up and running, the armor integrity is at 100% across the board and life support is showing all green. I had to leave my weapons behind, but I'm competent at hand-to-hand combat and can bludgeon any would-be attacker into submission. Teeth aren't getting past titanium alloy woven armor plates.

I just hope I don't have to got to the bathroom. I can't stay in this thing forever, after all. Would be a shame to die on the crapper.

Oh Hell, did I leave this thing on?
Title: RE: [Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: decoyman on November 08, 2006, 05:20:48 PM
lol, Stabby, even if you turn out to be mafia, it'd probably be hard for me to vote for you if only because I'm finding your roleplaying quite amusing
Title: RE: [Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: blackfootsteps on November 08, 2006, 06:36:03 PM
Wolf's Wisdom: "You're good, but I'm better!"
Title: RE:[Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: Khushrenada on November 08, 2006, 07:08:11 PM
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Originally posted by: TVman
Ok, why is everyone voting for me?? I didn't do anything!


That's kind of why I voted for you. I was out late and I got back like three minutes before voting was ending I felt it best to leave my vote as is. If you are innocent, well, I'm sorry but this is why I was stating people need to vote. Today, was a good day. I think everyone voted and voted for actual people. I'll have to check to make sure.


EDIT: I see you are innocent. Sorry TVMan but after S-U-P-E-R's game, I'm very suspicious of people who don't vote often. Plus, you were mafia that game and you did seem to vote very little. Not as little as mdm but still, you stayed pretty quiet.
Title: RE: [Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: wandering on November 08, 2006, 07:29:47 PM
Minor note: I'm removing the 'jump to' thingies. I don't think the threads are moving fast enough that anyone would have a problem getting to the correct page...and, besides, I don't think the shortcuts would have worked for people who have their 'posts per page' set to anything other than 20.
Title: RE: [Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: Zach on November 08, 2006, 07:49:30 PM
Ok, there is no way I can possibly do this without raising the interest of our mafia friends.  So, I am going to go with an unusual strategy more typical from the one I am about to accuse.

I AM FOX MCCLOUD!!!

You ask for proof?  Here it is.  Vote for Khush, and you will find that he is actually the traitor protecting Panther!!

One more thing.  Now that I have revealed Khush, Wolf will surely want me dead, so I need to ask for the protection of the doctor, this is a major risk, but I can only hope that we can kill Wolf before they take out the good doctor.

One note to the doctor, feel free to PM me after Khush is gone, but know that I will investigate you to make sure you are who you say you are.

How odd that me and wolf are now on equal standing.  We are known, but our lives rest with the lives of an unknown player.
Title: RE:[Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: Khushrenada on November 08, 2006, 08:31:31 PM
Wow. I just made a big mistake. This is going to sound really stupid but I am actually Fox McCloud.

Zach is mafia and he's trying to expose the doctor. Don't listen to him. You vote me out and you put the mafia at a 4-2 advantage. Then, if you vote out Zach to make up for your mistake, you'll be at a 3-1 advantage. If the remaing mafia member survives that day, everyone loses. This is just a false tactic to get everyone confused and on the wrong suspect.


If you want the full story, I pm'd Zach because I wanted an answer to the day 1 events. I wanted to know why Zach voted for Spak-Spang instead of Stabby that day. I also found it weird that Stabby didn't vote to save himself that day. Why did Zach save him? Were they in cahoots? So, I investigated Stabby and found that he was an innocent vacationer. Ok, fine. But that didn't rule out the fact that he might be the traitor hiding Wolf.

So, I thought I'd put pressure on him again. Then, people started harping on 18 Days, so I thought I should investigate her. Plus, I had spoken with 18 Days before the game about voting together and wanted to see if she was innocent and if we could form a team. In the meantime, I still didn't have much to go on besides Zach and Stabby, so I thought I'd just ask Zach the questions and see what answers I got. I didn't want to start posting some suspicions on an innocent person or else there would be two innocents fighting one another. But the answers weren't that satisfying. So, I took a chance and told Zach that I knew some people who were innocents and that if he could convice me of the fact, we could make a team. He wanted to know how I knew they were innocent so I took a chance and told him I was Fox. And now this. The crushing of a townie alliance before it began.
Title: RE: [Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: Zach on November 08, 2006, 08:54:27 PM
I am laughing my @ss off at this story,  I gotta admit, I didnt see this one coming.

So lets say hypothetically this story is true, Lets see if I can poke some holes

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Zach is mafia and he's trying to expose the doctor.
I asked the doctor to PM me after you are dead, and confirmed to be a mafia member, If I wanted the doctor to expose himself, I would have asked him to pm me today.

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I wanted to know why Zach voted for Spak-Spang instead of Stabby that day. I also found it weird that Stabby didn't vote to save himself that day
if you had looked at the time I changed my vote, 18 days also changed her vote AT THE EXACT SAME MINUTE.  At the time Spak was the best vote to save myself.

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So, I investigated Stabby and found that he was an innocent vacationer. Ok, fine. But that didn't rule out the fact that he might be the traitor hiding Wolf.
So you found Stabby innocent, and still voted for him repeatedly, I know you had suspicions for other reasons, but that's still pretty risky.

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So, I took a chance and told Zach that I knew some people who were innocents and that if he could convice me of the fact, we could make a team. He wanted to know how I knew they were innocent so I took a chance and told him I was Fox. And now this. The crushing of a townie alliance before it began.
That is the biggest stretch of all, you suspected me, and yet you told me your role, without even investigating me.  I know you are a very smart mafia player (and you have proven it with this genious story) I know you of all people would never tell a suspected mafia member your role.

Revieling myself is quite understandable, since I have the information to back it up, and I am sure to expose a mafia member.

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This is going to sound really stupid but I am actually Fox McCloud.
Your right there, it does sound pretty stupid.

Ive gotta go to bed. Hopefully the townies are as smart as I think they are, and I see lots of votes for Khush tommorrow when I get back on.
   
Title: RE: [Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: NWR_DrewMG on November 09, 2006, 01:35:05 AM
Wow, this is shocking.  Absolutely shocking.  

TONIGHT AT 11, SHOCK.
Title: RE: [Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: Ceric on November 09, 2006, 04:03:32 AM
Men... With there identity crisis.  Your Pepper and your Falco.  Stop being Delusional and thinking your Fox.  Cabin fever is setting in and your trained what a disgrace.
I was here to enjoy my vacation and nothing but trouble follows me.  For once I'm innosent of it all.
Title: RE: [Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: decoyman on November 09, 2006, 05:58:40 AM
Look, Ceric, if you're voting for me because I started the bandwagon yesterday against TVman... I only voted for him because he hadn't shown up yet, and this made me worried. Towards the end, I began to wonder if I had in fact done the right thing, so I sent him a PM. It convinced me enough that he was innocent, but I received it literally minutes before the end of the voting, and I didn't make it in time to change my vote (though I'm not sure if it would have saved him now – having a hard time keeping track of the vote count with all the vote changes).

If you vote me out, you're only hurting the vacationers, and that's just what the mafia wants. I hope you reconsider.

And to TVman, I'm sorry I didn't make it. I honestly had every intention to change my vote away from you... I was just a minute too late.  
Title: RE: [Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: NWR_DrewMG on November 09, 2006, 06:14:53 AM
Look, it's pretty obvious that either Zach or Khush are mafia.  So instead of fighting amongst ourselves, we should be grilling them to figure out with one of them is a big fat liar.  

I think Zach's story is a little tighter at this point, but Khush does make some good points.
Title: RE: [Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: MysticGohan on November 09, 2006, 07:16:05 AM
You all couldn't be further from the truth.... Oh Delicious Irony!
Title: RE:[Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: Sir_Stabbalot on November 09, 2006, 07:28:29 AM
What are you people talking about? I'm Fox McCloud! Ignoring the fact that there's no way a snout and ears could fit into this helmet without permanent damage, and the absence of any room for a tail, and the fact that I'm over six feet tall while Fox is rather short, and that my voice sounds nothing like Fox's, I'm clearly Fox.

The Republic wouldn't suddenly send a single emissary with special forces training and equipped with a stealth field generator for a diplomatic mission. And they certainly would not dream of sending said emissary to your system to steal your governments top-secret designs for the Arwing, its advanced weapons, shields and G-Diffuser to be combined with our advanced armor, shield generators and warp drive systems to create an interceptor easily capable of being mass-produced and perfect for protecting capitol ships and transports loaded with multiple Legions for an interplanetary invasion.

...I should stop now.  
Title: RE: [Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: Ceric on November 09, 2006, 08:33:00 AM
Congratulation Trebonius!  You just won worst Spy EVER. You make the Republic proud.
Title: RE:[Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: Sir_Stabbalot on November 09, 2006, 10:26:32 AM
I blame the torture I went through when captured by rebels on Anchor III. I was able to avoid revealing any information until I was able to lead a prisoner revolt against my captors and take the facility. Since then, I'm capable of taking the worst torture without saying a word.

But the experience left me unable to keep a secret in casual conversations, as you can tell. Heck, I was to smuggle a silenced pistol with me here to take out anyone who got in my way, but when the customs agent asked if I had any contraband I blabbed and it was confiscated. I liked that pistol, too.  
Title: RE:[Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: Khushrenada on November 09, 2006, 10:43:39 AM
This post contains all you need to know about today's mafia argument!


Concerning the situation with Zach, let me recap his arguments.

"I asked the doctor to PM me after you are dead, and confirmed to be a mafia member, If I wanted the doctor to expose himself, I would have asked him to pm me today."

True enough. I started typing as soon as I read your post and in my mind, I just remembered your pleas for the doctor saving you and hooking up with him. I just saw this as a way to expose the doctor. So, good for you. You got a point against me.




"If you had looked at the time I changed my vote, 18 days also changed her vote AT THE EXACT SAME MINUTE. At the time Spak was the best vote to save myself."

Funny, you said in your pm that you voted for Spak because you thought it would be funny that he started a bandwagon against himself. Pretty much the same thing you posted earlier in this thread. I also find it interesting how you've been spreading your votes around. First 18 Days, then Dasmos, then Spak. The next day, you joined in the vote for TVMan, then changed to Stevey for no reason. Frankly, I think your voting as been highly suspect. It seems like you are trying to start or join bandwagons. Basically, get everyone's attention on voting for other people other than yourself.






"So you found Stabby innocent, and still voted for him repeatedly, I know you had suspicions for other reasons, but that's still pretty risky."

It might be risky but I've found that my instincts are pretty darn good in this game. I think most everyone knows from my voting habits in the past that I tend to keep voting for the same person if I think they are mafia. I decided to let up on Stabby since he did vote but now I wish I had pursued it. It caused me to vote for TVMan an innocent and now I'm still unsure about Stabby.

You're record on the other hand. You've voted for 18 Days (innocent), Dasmos (unknown), Spak-Spang (innocent), TVMan (innocent), Stevey (unknown), Khushrenada (Fox McCloud). I think your voting record clearly shows that you are out to raise votes against innocent people. Frankly, with what has happened now, it seems pretty clear my instincts were right. I don't need another vote against me but where's Stabby? Oh, he's posting that he's Fox McCloud and trying to make a joke of this whole thing also. Perhaps in an effort to help save a mafia buddy? Maybe to keep people from believing that what I'm saying is true?





"That is the biggest stretch of all, you suspected me, and yet you told me your role, without even investigating me. I know you are a very smart mafia player (and you have proven it with this genious story) I know you of all people would never tell a suspected mafia member your role."

This statement here is a falsification of what happened between us. It did not go down as you have stated. I never said I suspected you when I pm'd you. I only said that I was wondering if you could tell me why you were voting the way you were. I told you that I didn't want to start raising suspicion against you and have everyone focusing on someone innocent instead of the mafia. Even though your answers weren't great, they seemed honest enough. So, that'sa when I told you about my plan for a townie alliance. I also figured it was save to tell you that I was Fox McCloud for two reasons:

1. If you were mafia and killed me during the night, you would have been immediately suspected by 18 Days, who knew I was Fox McCloud and who I knew was an innocent. I see you killed 18 Days during the night and now you are trying to get me voted out because I know you are mafia, thereby ending the growing threat to you.

2. Even if you were mafia, I figured you would let me live because you would have thought that you were able to slip into the townie alliance and therefore not be suspected. Then you could try to manipulate the townie alliance.


The sum of my arguements and how you should vote

It was a calculated risk but one I felt confident in taking. Once you found out I would investigate you, then you started this whole thing of quickly trying to kill me. I have to admit. This is one of the wierdest mafia tactics I've ever seen someone do. But I understand why. It guarentees an innocent death now, then everyone votes for you next day and you give your remaining member a shot at winning it all on the last day. Best of all, you keep the doctor from being able to hook up with anyone.



And the truth is, I can't argue with Zach's logic. I used that logic all the time in past mafia games. It is a good point. Why not wait and see. Well, I'll tell you why. Unlike previous mafia games, we don't have the luxury of waiting around to see who's right. I just outlined why in the above paragraph. I don't want this going to the last day and hoping the townies can pick off the one in four mafia member.

But I am reasonable. Let's face it. Fox McCloud's power is over. The only person I can locate now is the doctor but he will come forth on his own now. That's the only benefit I have left and the one the mafia is trying to prevent. If I live, it will give the doctor an opportunity to hook up with me (Fox) and form an alliance. Killing me keeps the doctor alone.

Still, if you are unsure that I'm innocent, then vote for me. It may seem silly but I know I'm innocent and it will expose Zach either way. Even if I die, I can still get a win with the townies, so I'm not to concerned about if I live or die. Unlike Zach. Plus, if I'm right about Zach and Stabby, it means that the mafia will lose in the next two days. I'd just rather get rid of a mafia member now instead of pushing the game to the limit.


Oh, and ending your post with an insult. Classy.  


This post contains all you need to know about today's mafia argument!
Title: RE: [Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: stevey on November 09, 2006, 11:01:32 AM
Hmmm.... Zach voted for 4 innocent people but then again khush away pulls this stuff...

BlackShadow will crush both of them with the GreatFox!  
Title: RE:[Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: Khushrenada on November 09, 2006, 11:14:12 AM
Actually Stevey, I didn't pull anything this time. This is all Zach. I'm just trying to let people know the facts. Let's face it. How many times have I been right before? I know alot of poeple don't trust me when I do this but let's face it. Even though they didn't trust me, I was, am and still right. I'm telling the truth now also. Unfortunately, Zach attacked me first. Usually, I'm the one who starts the attack. I think that's why people have a hard time believing me now. So, I have to give them credit there.

Plus, wouldn't you like to get revenge on Zach for his mafia game? Now's your chance and you'd be helping the townies.
Title: RE:[Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: Sir_Stabbalot on November 09, 2006, 11:21:35 AM
Hey, Black Shadow, are there any Arwings still docked in the Great Fox? The Republic will pay you your weight in Denarii if you can get one.

Wait, I'm accused of being Mafia? Pepper, if you had investigated me, wouldn't I come up as a vacationer and there be no doubt of my innocence? Is this how your people treat comedians?
Title: RE:[Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: Khushrenada on November 09, 2006, 11:28:44 AM
As I explained before, you did come up as a vacationer but that doesn't mean you are innocent. I noticed that Wandering posted a message saying that the traitor hiding Wolf O'Donnel would show up as innocent after I investigated you, so that added to my suspicion about you being the mafia head.
Title: RE:[Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: Sir_Stabbalot on November 09, 2006, 11:32:38 AM
Ah, so then I don't have much to say in my defense. Beside that I'm innocent, but nobody believes that stuff these days.

Still, voting for Pepper may be a win-win situation. If he's Fox, then we know Zach is Mafia, and if he's Mafia, then Zach is innocent. Or we could vote Zach out and follow the same steps.
Title: RE: [Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: NWR_DrewMG on November 09, 2006, 11:38:44 AM
Just so I can be on the record as saying it, I would like it to be known that I am in fact not evil, nor a traitor.  
Title: RE:[Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: Khushrenada on November 09, 2006, 12:06:57 PM
Stabby didn't vote for Zach. What a surprise.
Title: RE: [Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: Ceric on November 09, 2006, 12:10:49 PM
You know this style of separating things isn't really that bad.
Title: RE:[Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: Sir_Stabbalot on November 09, 2006, 12:18:26 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Khushrenada
Stabby didn't vote for Zach. What a surprise.


Neither did Decoyman or DrewMG. If you're actually Fox, then I'll vote for Zach.
Title: RE: [Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: blackfootsteps on November 09, 2006, 01:37:23 PM
Wolf's Wisdom: "You'll be seeing your dad soon Fox."  
Title: RE: [Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: Zach on November 09, 2006, 05:50:45 PM
Its kinda worthless to try to defend myself at this point. Oh well, I might as well say it anyway.

First of all, I did not vote for Spak because he started the bandwagon against himself, I only said it was interesting that he started it against himself.

Secondly, I voted for tvman because he didnt show up.  Which I believe was Khush's reasoning as well.

Lastly, you said several times that you suspected me, in your post.

I am glad to die if I have to prove that Khush is mafia, My role as fox is useless now anyway..  Once you all see how much of a mistake you make if you vote me off, tonights results will give you a clue on how to vote later.

As for Khush, I never thought anyone could have pulled off what you just did, congrats

Edit:  Looking at the score again, it seems that it is tied, perhaps there is hope after all.
Title: RE:[Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: Khushrenada on November 09, 2006, 06:06:18 PM
Wow. So now you're saying everything I said.

Now you are ready to die to prove that you are right. Something I've said.

The fox role is useless now. Something I've been saying all day.

You were voting the same way I was. Wow.

I guess if you can't beat 'em. Copy them.
Title: RE: [Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: Zach on November 09, 2006, 06:09:22 PM
No, you just hapenned to post before me, besides, its silly to accuse me because of vote patterns when yours are similar.

Edit: So whats Wandering's policy for a tie anyway? If we both die, than I guess that is the best way for fox to go, with my hands around your neck!
Title: RE:[Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: Khushrenada on November 09, 2006, 06:11:02 PM
Yeah, I voted for 6 different people just like you. This is just sad.
Title: RE: [Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: Zach on November 09, 2006, 06:11:51 PM
Time will tell who is right here.
Title: RE:[Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: Khushrenada on November 09, 2006, 06:19:50 PM
Well looks like we're going to a coin toss. Seems only fitting as that's what most people seem to think of our arguement.
Title: RE: [Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: Zach on November 09, 2006, 06:23:05 PM
No matter what happens, I wanna thank Drew, Stabby, and Decoyman, for being intelligent enough to see through Khush's silver tongue.
Title: RE: [Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: Ceric on November 09, 2006, 06:24:25 PM
Wow there was a tie... I'm surprised to say the least.  Well I'm all for the all mighty coin deciding it.
Title: RE: [Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: Zach on November 09, 2006, 06:26:00 PM
Such thinking may just buy khush another day.
Title: RE: [Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: Ceric on November 09, 2006, 06:31:04 PM
lol.  Trust me my way of thinking doesn't buy anyone another day if things fall out like I think they will.
Title: RE: [Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: Zach on November 09, 2006, 06:39:32 PM
C'mon wandering, you need to let us know how the coin fell so that they doctor can make his decision.  (Im guessing he is going to protect whoever is saved from the vote)
Title: RE:[Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: Khushrenada on November 09, 2006, 06:46:38 PM
Well Congratulations Zach. That was just amazing. You convinced people that you were my role and struck first. Best of all, you used one of my own tactics against me. I guess I deserve it after all the times I pulled it on other people. But I really thought that I would be vindicated. So, Kudos for some masterful storytelling.
Title: RE: [Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: NWR_DrewMG on November 09, 2006, 06:49:36 PM
Now things get a little hotter, and a little more interesting.  I tried to help, Zach.  Really I did.

As for you, Khush, you've dug your own grave.
Title: RE: [Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: Zach on November 09, 2006, 06:49:53 PM
Im dead, you can give up the act khush, congratulations, you bought yourself a day.

Edit: Thanks drew, I'll make sure to remember this.
Title: RE: [Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: blackfootsteps on November 09, 2006, 07:07:27 PM
Wolf's wisdom: "Can't let you do that, Star Fox!"  

Edit: That doesn't even make any sense but I am running out of awesome Lylat Wars quotes and not-so-awesome SF Assault quotes.
Title: RE:[Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: Khushrenada on November 09, 2006, 07:41:18 PM
Wait a sec. This isn't right. I was Star Fox. Wandering changed the roles on me. This is just a sad attempt to keep me from being able to play this game. I did nothing wrong I tell you. Awww heck. Who am I kidding?

(In General Pepper's voice)

Emergency Star Fox!

You're dead!

Ha Ha Ha Ha!

What a day. Hey I have an idea. Instead of voting for me, why doesn't everyone try to vote for the other mafia member instead of me. If you are right, you kill me the next day. If you are wrong, I get to celebrate a mafia vistory with my bud which I so richly deserve. What do you say?
Title: RE: [Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: decoyman on November 09, 2006, 07:58:28 PM
Wow, Khush. I am speechless. Zach was right, though: you are the man with the Silver Tongue.

I think I speak for the rest of us when I say, "There's a bed in intensive care with your name on it." And you'll be sleeping there. TONIGHT.
Title: RE: [Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: MysticGohan on November 09, 2006, 08:10:59 PM
he he, the panther will strike those who less want it Rawr! I can't believe you guys haven't figured out that not everything is as it seems. I await my dinner, as I watch as each of you die in a poisinous cloud only Mario could be proud of, especially after them breakfast burritos prepared by Skeletor himself!
Title: RE:[Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: Khushrenada on November 09, 2006, 08:18:16 PM
Wait a second. Stabby was an innocent vacationer? Looks like I was right everyone. I told you I had investigated him and that he was innocent. Sure, I thought he might have been the traitor hiding Star Wolf, but who wouldn't? Now everyone is attacking me for being right. What I game. You tell the truth and people want you dead. Sorry Stabby, I shouldn't have revealed your innocence. Man I just can't believe I was wrong about Stabby and Zach being mafia, usually my instincts are right. I'll have to think about this.
Title: RE:[Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: Khushrenada on November 09, 2006, 08:27:36 PM
I make a mockery of you and your voting practices. As Dictator-for-Life of Corneria, I order that everyone submit before me or face my wrath.
Title: RE:[Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: Khushrenada on November 09, 2006, 08:51:19 PM
I knew it. Everyone is too afraid to vote for me now. You all know that I'd turn the vote around on you. You can end the game now R.O.B. The people have selected their winner, through my intimidation tactics.
Title: RE:[Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: wandering on November 09, 2006, 10:21:22 PM


RIP Trebonius.
Title: RE: [Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: NWR_DrewMG on November 10, 2006, 02:28:05 AM
There's come a turning point in this game - We all know who the first mafia member is, and the second mafia member has very little room to hide.  If you voted for Zach yesterday, your name is on a very short list.
Title: RE: [Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: decoyman on November 10, 2006, 05:21:26 AM
I've been trying to stay only minimally involved in this game (and doing horribly at it) since I've got a lot going on... but I can't refrain from getting more aggressive at this point.

Yesterday was horrible. I wonder if I had been a bit more active if Zach might still be alive. Anyways... consider this... the awakening of Krystal. VOTE KHUSH.

(wrong thread, hehe)
Title: RE:[Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: Khushrenada on November 10, 2006, 08:46:18 AM
Ladies, please. There's plenty of Khushrenada aka General Pepper to go around. You need to need to have this argument that if you can't have me no one will. Trust me, if you vote for me, I won't kill you. I think we should all be focusing on the one person who has been playing a very low key game. That's right Shyguy. In case you haven't noticed, Shyguy has been flying under the radar so low that Wandering forgot to put him on the list of people who are playing. Now that is low key.  
Title: RE:[Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: Khushrenada on November 10, 2006, 09:08:40 AM
A couple other things. I hope the doctor didn't contact Zach and protect him. That protection should be mine.

Also, the name is KHUSHRENADA. Not Khush. That is probably not even a word. So, Wandering, if you see any votes for Khush, disregard them. I don't know who that is. I don't know why there was even a tie situation. I think you were confused about our names. I also take the time to spell out your name correctly when I vote against you and send a hit out for you. Fair is fair. So, if you still believe Zach's lies and still think you should vote me, at least spell my name correctly with the HONOR it deserves.

Frankly, I'm surprised the doctor hasn't offered me protection. What I said was true.
Title: RE: [Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: NWR_DrewMG on November 10, 2006, 09:22:04 AM
Pepper, you are a disgrace to that uniform.  
Title: RE:[Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: Khushrenada on November 10, 2006, 09:29:20 AM
Hey, I made this uniform!(from the skin of dead animals) I am the uniform! And you will fall in line with your Cornerian Overlord!
Title: RE: [Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: stevey on November 10, 2006, 09:46:26 AM
How many mafia member are there????
Title: RE: [Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: MysticGohan on November 10, 2006, 10:05:51 AM
well take a guess...
Title: RE:[Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: Khushrenada on November 10, 2006, 12:02:40 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: stevey
How many mafia member are there????


You should know! You are one! Ohhhhh. Is it true or another lie?  
Title: RE: [Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: blackfootsteps on November 10, 2006, 04:05:14 PM
Wolf's Wisdom: "What, is that all you got?"
Title: RE: [Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: NWR_DrewMG on November 10, 2006, 04:51:33 PM
I've recieved a death threat tonight.  If the doctor is listening, I need your help.

Don't listen to Khush, if he PMs you.  He's just trying to delay the inevitable.  If he manages to convince you that it's NOT in your best interest to vote out a KNOWN MAFIA member, then you deserve a quick death the following day.

This may be my last night in the game, if so, I've enjoyed playing it.  But I think that Khush won't follow through.  He has nothing to gain going after me when there are more saavy, more experienced players who pose more of a threat.
Title: RE: [Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: wandering on November 10, 2006, 05:22:18 PM
Hey, what are people's thoughts on the possibility of playing through the weekend? I know I said we wouldn't be earlier, but I've gotten a request that the final day be tomorrow instead of Monday.
Title: RE:[Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: Khushrenada on November 10, 2006, 05:50:26 PM
I'd be happy to play tomorrow. It seems I'm not going anywhere so it works for me. Oh, and I'd be happy to kill off anyone who is unable to play tomorrow. Just let me know who you are now.
Title: RE: [Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: NWR_DrewMG on November 10, 2006, 06:10:25 PM
I'll be leaving town tomorrow afternoon, but I can play early in the day.
Title: RE: [Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: blackfootsteps on November 10, 2006, 06:13:44 PM
Khush, voted out...

Wolf says: "What the heck!?!"
Title: RE:[Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: Khushrenada on November 10, 2006, 06:24:00 PM
Yeah, I know. People keep voting for this "khush" fellow but no one is playing by that name. I guess I'm safe.
Title: RE: [Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: wandering on November 10, 2006, 08:07:37 PM
Alright, I've decided not to break for the weekend. Today is the day. It's do or die time.
Title: RE: [Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: blackfootsteps on November 10, 2006, 08:41:43 PM
The board is set, the pieces are moving, how has it come to this?

Obligatory Wolf's Wisdom: "No Way! I don't believe it..."

Wait, yes, yes I do. Star Wolf has systematically sunk its sizeable (metaphorical and literal) teeth into every innocent vacationer around. This is the end.
Title: RE: [Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: decoyman on November 11, 2006, 02:38:22 PM
 No, screw this. I'm bringing this PM convo into the open. Stevey, I've voted for you because you seem to be the most suspicious one. If you want us to reconsider, I'd like to hear your answers to three questions.

1. Why did you not vote for Khush when it was Zach vs. Khush? You've played with Khush before, and know how he is, so you should've been able to see through his ruse.

2. How did you not know how many mafia members there are? Stevey, I respect your play a lot, and I've seen what you can do. You had an entire list of all the roles well before the game was over in Pokemafia. So, this doesn't make sense to me.

3. Why did you un-vote Khush yesterday? Was it because of the lame threats that Khush sent out to everyone? I don't see any reason why you would believe that Khush could back up any of those. What, he's going to hit EVERYONE?? Not possible, no way.  
Title: RE: [Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: stevey on November 11, 2006, 03:08:48 PM
1 Khush pm me a fake quote of his role pm and I didn't think he was stupid enough to pull the same trick for the 6 time

2 I wasn't sure if wandering was gonna keep 2 extra traitor along even though BnM and mario weren't play and I could find it in anywere in the rules/update part

3 I know he couldn't hit everyone, I was waitting for him and the other traitor to show themself by trying to tie the vote so I could vote for the last traitor today, but it failed  
Title: RE: [Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: wandering on November 11, 2006, 04:32:16 PM
Just a heads up: I may be extending the voting period to monday night. Sorry for the constant flip-flopping.
Title: RE: [Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: Ceric on November 11, 2006, 04:34:28 PM
This is the last day so I'm just going to go out and say it bluntly.  I'm an Innocent Vacationer.  Theirs only 2 people I don't know about.  I think they should be obvious.
Title: RE: [Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: stevey on November 11, 2006, 04:47:51 PM
"I may be extending the voting period to monday night."

Yes, please!
Title: RE: [Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: wandering on November 11, 2006, 08:12:42 PM
The game is over. A wrap-up thread will be posted soon.
Title: RE: [Star Fox Mafia] Open Channel
Post by: blackfootsteps on November 11, 2006, 10:58:06 PM
Oh glorious! And on this the day of my 22nd birthday. Life is grand you see, for tomorrow I shall be attending Pearl Jam.

Oh! hang on... we were... defeated? ahaha, no way. Star Wolf is the force to be reckoned with.