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nickmitch:
I guess the anniversary of Sword/Shield DLC just passed. Anyone have any DLC expectations for SV?

Also, happy that Caterkiller isn't banned, lol.

Evan_B:

--- Quote from: nickmitch on January 11, 2023, 05:34:19 PM ---I guess the anniversary of Sword/Shield DLC just passed. Anyone have any DLC expectations for SV?

Also, happy that Caterkiller isn't banned, lol.

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I honestly think that we aren’t going to get new “regions” like in the Sword and Shield DLC, which iterated on the Wild Area design. Paldea’s open world is the game’s main draw and I doubt Game Freak was simultaneously cooking up some alternate island or something. If anything, we’re going to gain deeper access into Area Zero, and hopefully get some stuff that further enriches the open world exploration. But I would love to be proven wrong. I just think Paldea felt like a Herculean effort to create and it still isn’t perfect, so expecting some massive new expansion would be wishful thinking. But I think something like making meaningful changes to the overworld would be neat- seasons that rotate wild encounter types, or make certain surfaces harder to climb/navigate. I also think it would actually be nice to have some legitimate dungeon content, as Area Zero really felt like the only place where mobility was limited.

I’m out of steam.

nickmitch:
I was actually kind of expecting something like the SwSh DLC. There's the blocked-off area in the northeast of the map that a lot of people think is going to be Kalos, and I do think something will come of it for DLC. However, it could be one of those things that GameFreak puts in the game and never come back to.

Expanding Area Zero would also be something I'd like to see. They could easily add more area or give us the chance to go through the time machine and see more paradox Pokémon. There's at least one new legendary the game has hinted at that we should see. Plus, even though SV gave us 4 more legendaries to go hunt down that SwSh, it still feels like we don't get as many as we used to.

Evan_B:
The thing is, the third legendary and the rumored Scarlet and Violet DLC legendaries pretty much confirm that the Time Machine isn’t actually a Time Machine. I don’t want to get into narrative specifics, but the supplemental lore pretty much states that there are more dangerous parts of Area Zero that we have yet to explore, and that there is a reason we don’t actually get a glimpse into the past or future that these machines access.

We haven’t gained access to a part of another region since Gen 2, so I highly doubt that we’ll see a return to Kalos, or even a part of it- if you look at that part of the map, it’s tall and featureless, and would probably be pretty lame exploratory content. Even if we returned to Kalos in some format, it seems to conflict with the nature of Scarlet and Violet’s narrative and thematic concepts, unless we’re just considering “stones” (mega and tera) to be the connective tissue. I think the best we can hope for is maybe a small, island-sized open world similar in structure to Paldea, but I do think that Game Freak is going to experiment with the DLC model to see what works well for them. Sword and Shield was expanding on the idea of the Wild Zone, which was ultimately a failure, so I would assume Scarlet and Violet would expand on the open world concept.

But hey, I’m a person who likes to make connections and attempt to tie things together logically, and Game Freak has proven to very-much not-be that. So who knows?

nickmitch:

--- Quote from: Evan_B on January 12, 2023, 10:04:23 AM ---We haven’t gained access to a part of another region since Gen 2, so I highly doubt that we’ll see a return to Kalos, or even a part of it- if you look at that part of the map, it’s tall and featureless, and would probably be pretty lame exploratory content. Even if we returned to Kalos in some format, it seems to conflict with the nature of Scarlet and Violet’s narrative and thematic concepts, unless we’re just considering “stones” (mega and tera) to be the connective tissue.

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There is the fact that Roaring Moon looks like Mega Salamence. It's Violet Pokedex entry references a "phenomenon" from "a certain region". Usually, other regions are referred to as "far away" regions. But otherwise, this is a fairly strong connection. This region is also the first time we've seen wild Gogoat since Kalos, which makes sense if they're close to each other.

But I do think expecting Kalos is expecting a lot. I just don't see it happening. I think we'd be more likely to get a Pokemon Legends game set in Kalos.


--- Quote ---The thing is, the third legendary and the rumored Scarlet and Violet DLC legendaries pretty much confirm that the Time Machine isn’t actually a Time Machine. I don’t want to get into narrative specifics, but the supplemental lore pretty much states that there are more dangerous parts of Area Zero that we have yet to explore, and that there is a reason we don’t actually get a glimpse into the past or future that these machines access.
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I do agree that the lore makes Area Zero seem like more than it is, but I think that's par for the course for most Pokemon games. The alleged DLC legendaries that we see sketches of, don't make me think we'll see those things, specifically. But maybe ancient versions of the legendary beasts and future versions of the swords of justice. They're explicitly stated to the work of an artist's imagination. But I do wholly expect a DLC pack centered around the third legendary. Something like the Crown Tundra.

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