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Title: Original song compositions
Post by: Ian Sane on September 09, 2004, 06:16:06 PM
A lot of guys have shown off their artwork on this forum so I figured I would share with you a song I wrote and recorded with my friends.  It's obviously rough since I didn't record it with any professional equipment but I think it's a catchy song and I'm very proud of it.  I figure we can use this thread for anyone here to discuss and share any of their original compositions.

Anyway our band is called the Mutation Invasion and the song is called Complicated.  You can download it from here.
Title: RE: Original song compositions
Post by: King of Twitch on September 09, 2004, 06:25:15 PM
Hey I thought it was going to be an Avril Lavinge song :S I like it, maybe the singing could be a little better; but it's definitely catchy, like a kingadmin song. So what instrument are you playing?
Title: RE: Original song compositions
Post by: Ian Sane on September 09, 2004, 06:55:56 PM
I'm doing the singing that could be a little better and guitar.
Title: RE:Original song compositions
Post by: King of Twitch on September 09, 2004, 07:26:12 PM
oh cool I definitely like the guitar bit (if you can, make it longer). I play guitar but usually by myself, so I hope to figure out how to record something sometime.
Title: RE: Original song compositions
Post by: Caillan on September 09, 2004, 10:53:51 PM
I like the song, it's very catchy

At some points the rhythym seems to fall apart a bit here and there in the bass/keyboard, but overall I think it was very good. You have a good feel for the guitar.

Nice idea for a thread. I haven't written anything decent yet (except ultra-cheesey MIDIs) but I'll see if I can get a few arrangements of mine somewhere on the web sometime. I also have a few friends who are very good muscians (they're still at high school but are ready to play in professional orchestras/jazz groups already), and if I can get any of their stuff in digital format, I'll try to put it somewhere as well.

Who's your favourite guitarist? I love Neil Young, especially in Everybody Knows this is Nowhere; some of the solos in that album are amazing.
Title: RE: Original song compositions
Post by: Ian Sane on September 10, 2004, 07:31:57 AM
"I play guitar but usually by myself, so I hope to figure out how to record something sometime."

This was actually pretty easy to record.  We just used a microphone hooked up to a PC.  We recorded each track seperately starting with the drums and each of us counted 1-2-3-4 before we started our track to make it easier to match the tracks up.  After each track was recorded we would mix it in with the rest of the song.  When recording each part we made an MP3 of the mixed track and put it onto an MP3 player and the player listened to the rest of the song on headphones while playing.  We mixed the tracks using a trial copy of some sound recording program but realistically you could use the sound recorder that comes with windows.  It was much easier than I thought it would be.

"Who's your favourite guitarist?"

Jimmy Page though my playing style is probably more influenced by folk-rock stuff like Tom Petty.
Title: RE:Original song compositions
Post by: Hostile Creation on September 10, 2004, 10:34:01 AM
Ah, I like it.  It is catchy, though the keyboard sounds kinda eighties and that's mildly annoying (I'd suggest a different sound setting, assuming it's that type of keyboard).  It's a pretty good song, though, and I'll be adding it to my playlist.
My only real suggestion is in regards to the vocals.  Your voice is by no means bad, and I think you could make the song much better if you put more energy into it.  You sound as if you're bored or mumbling.  If you sped up the song slightly or maybe adding something to the beat (more complicated and interest intstrumentation) to make it seem faster and more intense, and put real effort into your vocals, it could be a lot more than good.
I like it, though.  Very cool.
Title: RE:Original song compositions
Post by: Dasmos on September 10, 2004, 08:19:11 PM
Cool track although as HC said the vocals could be more powerful...i could barely hear the lyrics but very catchy song nonetheless keep up the good work!!
Title: RE:Original song compositions
Post by: nickmitch on September 11, 2004, 11:57:13 AM
Not bad, Ian, not bad at all.
But for now I'm sticking with MC Chris.
Title: RE:Original song compositions
Post by: Smadte on September 17, 2004, 07:52:50 PM
I think this could sound really good with the right production.  
Title: RE:Original song compositions
Post by: Ian Sane on October 03, 2004, 06:57:24 PM
Time to dig up a crusty old thread.  My band and I have recorded two new songs.  All of our songs are available here.

C'mon was written by our rhythm guitarist Adam.  I contribute very little to this song.  All I did was the guitar solo.

Decision's music was written by our keyboardist Robert while I wrote the lyrics.  I play the guitar for this song and sing the vocals.

So there you go.  Three songs representing the styles of our three songwriters.
Title: RE: Original song compositions
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 03, 2004, 07:40:22 PM
I'm just seeing this topic now, and I'm going to bed really soon, so I checked out one of the songs...The first one that caught my eye was "Decision" so into the download window it goes!  And I must say that it's actually very good...Kudos!
Title: RE:Original song compositions
Post by: Hostile Creation on October 04, 2004, 04:36:37 AM
I like C'mon. . . Decision I'm listening to now.  The melody is definitely good.
Your voice is a little better in Decision.  I suppose if you keep practicing and sing often enough, things will fall into place.  With some extra help, you could probably be really good.
One other comment is the part in C'mon, pretty early, when the guitar and (synth? keyboard?) do two tunes at the same time.  It could be good, but the band needs to practice it, because it sounds kind of sloppy now.
OVerall, though, I'm impressed.  Great music, another fine addition to my playlist.
Title: RE: Original song compositions
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on December 20, 2004, 05:54:06 AM
Uh-huh, yeah.

You should make a song called "Ian Sane."  Mm-hmm, lyrics should be:

He's a
(GUITAR)
CRAZZAH KINDA GUYYY
(Wild drum solo)
UH-huh chyaaaaaa
(crazy screaming)

Chorus:
CUZ HE'S
CRAZZAH WILLD
HE LIKES HIS TACO SAUCE MILD
Sane.  Ian Sane
(SUPER BASS SOLO ACCOMPANIED BY SCREAMS)

(BEAT THE HELL OUT OF THOSE SNARES)

(Chorus)

Uh-HUH YEAAAAhh
hes gotta COOOMPUUUUTER
and he GOEZ oN teh ENTERniiiit SUUUUPER
THATS
S-
U-
P-
E-
R AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH
(DRUMS ARE DEAD NOW)

(Chorus)

CHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

OOOOOOOOOHHHH YEAAAAAAAAAAAHhhh

(Chorus)

NUNUNUNUNunununu IAN SAAAAANE
outa hiz MAAAAAHND
IIIIAAAAN SSAAAAAANNNNE
YEEEAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH

(Chorus)

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGHHHHHHHH

(Chorus)

WWWWWWIIIIIILDDDDDDDDD
CRAAAAAAAAAZZZZZZZZYYYYYYYY
TACOOOOOOOO SAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUCE

(REALLY LOUD CHORUS)

yeaaaaaaaah.

(finish wiht dramatic bass jam)
Title: RE:Original song compositions
Post by: nickmitch on December 20, 2004, 03:14:37 PM
Now, there's a number one hit.
Title: RE:Original song compositions
Post by: Hostile Creation on December 20, 2004, 05:54:17 PM
One of these songs was on my playlist (well, all of them, but I'm referring to one), and when it came on I was trying to figure out which band it was.  Took me a while to realize it was you, but that's a good thing, because it means your music was hard to distinguish from a lot of the other music I listen to, which is generally professional stuff.

Ah, and good song, kirby_killer_dedede.
Title: RE: Original song compositions
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on December 21, 2004, 03:59:24 AM
Uh-huh, yeah.
Title: RE: Original song compositions
Post by: Ian Sane on January 05, 2005, 07:20:24 PM
My friends and I have recorded a new song.  It was written by me and is called Clutter.  I sing for it and play guitar.  It's a ballad and I'm really happy with how this one turned out.  You can download it from the link to all our songs in my previous post.
Title: RE:Original song compositions
Post by: evil intentions on January 06, 2005, 01:07:22 PM
All I have to bitch about is the vocals do need a bit of work.
Title: RE: Original song compositions
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on January 06, 2005, 02:13:09 PM
Now you're working on my song, right!?

Right?

...Right?
Title: RE: Original song compositions
Post by: sniperp on January 21, 2005, 01:23:15 AM
Title: RE: Original song compositions
Post by: sniperp on January 21, 2005, 01:26:05 AM
hi listened to the song quite catchy and i liked it but i reckon just carry on as is don't listen to what anyone says
well this is my bands song if you're interested it has 1 videogame reference so it is relevant to this board
http://www.saintdragon.com/i%20get%20confused.mp3
Title: RE: Original song compositions
Post by: Ian Sane on January 21, 2005, 05:35:00 PM
Sorry I didn't respond to this sooner but I don't have sound at work.

Wow.  Great song!  Very catchy, good singing, memorable chorus.  I liked the game reference as well and it's worked in a good rhyme.

It sounds very professional too, like you actually recorded in a studio and have a real drummer.
Title: RE:Original song compositions
Post by: Ian Sane on February 26, 2005, 08:23:53 PM
Crusty old thread revived!

I've recorded some new songs.  They can be found here.

The last two are the new ones.  Get Out (Of my Face) was written by me and my brother Eric who is our bass player.  An Ode to Government is an improvised joke song that we pretty much made up as we played.  I wrote the lyrics while Eric and Rob our keyboardist wrote the music.
Title: RE: Original song compositions
Post by: Ian Sane on May 08, 2005, 08:23:29 PM
New songs!  

The first one is called Yield and was written by myself.  The funny thing is I wrote it in a dream.  Now I've had a couple songs in a dreams that sounded great at the time but I completely forgot them when I woke up.  In this case however my alarm went off just as the song was playing so it was fresh in my mind.  I went to my computer and very quietly (so I didn't wake everyone up) and very poorly (I was pretty tired) recorded the melody and then figured it out on my electric guitar unplugged.  It's got a really catchy pop beat but the keyboards are a little louder in the mix than I would like.  I guess that's what happens when your keyboardist is doing the mixing.

The second is called Quick Like a Bullet.  The music was written by our keyboardist Rob and the lyrics were written by me.  It's a very keyboard focused song and is heavily influenced by videogame music.

The link's on my previous post and the site has all of our recorded songs so far.
Title: RE: Original song compositions
Post by: nickmitch on May 09, 2005, 04:47:49 PM
Ian's dream music is awesome!
Title: RE: Original song compositions
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on November 11, 2005, 11:29:13 AM
Ian.  I will f*cking pay you to record my song.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: wandering on August 04, 2008, 06:37:58 PM
Bumping this because I want to hear more of Ian's band's songs.

Also, I want to share a composition of my own:

The Ditty of Death (http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/162450)

It's pretty much my first song (unless you count freestyle rap, or tunes I made in Animal Crossing.) It's not great, but I think it has a certain creepy charm. I must warn you, though, the song may be cursed.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Ian Sane on August 05, 2008, 11:51:54 AM
Sh!t I recorded this stuff back in 2005?  Actually earlier this year one of my bandmates got a Mac with Garage Band and we re-recorded higher quality versions of most of those songs plus there are a couple new ones.  With this post being brought back I should upload the newer versions plus the new songs.

And I've got to remember to listen to Wandering's song later tonight.  I'm at work right now so I can't.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Ian Sane on August 27, 2008, 12:19:05 PM
Okay so I still haven't updated the site because I'm busy with a film I mentioned working on in another thread.

But I have uploaded a new piece of music.  I don't know if Americans will know this but CBC's Hockey Night in Canada recently lost the rights to it's famous theme song to rival network TSN who will be using it for their hockey broadcasts.  This has been practically a minor scandal here in Canada.

Anyway CBC is holding a contest for a new theme song which I'm sure regardless of quality will be poorly received because of people's nostalgia for the original.  Nonetheless I've entered the contest with an instrumental I wrote.  So check it out if you want.

http://anthemchallenge.cbc.ca/mediadetail/316734 (http://anthemchallenge.cbc.ca/mediadetail/316734)
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: decoyman on August 30, 2008, 02:18:16 PM
Cool stuff, Ian! I really like your entry to the contest - clean it up a little more, and I can totally hear it being the real deal. I've also downloaded all your other songs too, but make sure if you put up higher quality versions to post again so we can "upgrade."

Wandering, very nice. But... cursed?? (goes to walk around a bit) Hmm, I'm still walking straight ahead and turning right when i want to turn right, and left when I want to turn left. Also, there's no little skull floating above my head. Looks like I'm alright!

Ok, technically this isn't a "song" because it doesn't have lyrics, but I thought I'd join in on the fun. I play piano, and used to really like writing music. Since I haven't had a real piano (just have a keyboard), I haven't written anything new in years. But this was the last one I wrote before I got composer's block.

Check it out here (http://www.aaronjfranco.com/Number14.mp3). It's pretty mellow.

Note: for the "short" version, just stop listening at 2:53.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Stogi on September 04, 2008, 01:19:38 PM
It's not really my style, Ian, but keep it up buddddddddddddddddddddy. And writing music in your dream isn't funny, it's possibly the best way to do it. For some reason, I always come up with the best melodies when I'm dreaming but I almost always forget them immediately. It kinda sucks.....

Anyway...I have a new track as well. I don't have a name for it. What I would like from yall is some constructive criticism. I use a laptop..........that's it. So take that into consideration.

I usually make straight hip-hop beats that use samples from really momentous symphonies and orchestras or in one case, a soundtrack (Requiem for a Dream). Sometimes I make a hip-hop beat that's kinda goofy but really calming and is probably best played when having some fun outside.

So ya.......this one is COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. I was going for a more of a "this is what I'll play when I'm driving with a car full of girls and we're headed to a party" type of feel. Bass is real heavy, the melody is really techno-ish, and it's suppose to be catchy.

Anyway, check it out:

THIS IS MEANT TO BE PLAYED AT HIGH VOLUME. SO IF YOU CAN, DO SO.

http://www.supload.com/music/Kashogistogi/The-Jam/XL9ITJ5QTZMM-download.html (http://www.supload.com/music/Kashogistogi/The-Jam/XL9ITJ5QTZMM-download.html)

EDIT: I just wanted to mention that almost all of my songs contain a duality within them. So if you the beginning is not your cup of tea, then forward a little ways to the other part.  Let me know what you think (most importantly, let me know if it sounds professionally made).
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: EasyCure on September 04, 2008, 11:16:48 PM
i already PMed K-stogi my detailed view on his song, but to keep discussion going i'll summarize my points here and see if anyone agrees/disagrees. It'd love to compare my views on this with everyone elses.

These were my main points:

-intro was a little long
-bass drum could of been a little louder in the beat
-the melody that comes in around the minute mark could use a different tone to diversify sound
-the interlude felt a little abrupt
-the outro didnt leave me wanting more

now i really liked the song, and i told K-stogi i did, even saying i want this on my ipod. I was merely giving him the constructive criticism he asked for, so i role played as a pop record producer looking for a hit.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Stogi on September 05, 2008, 02:39:32 PM
Here's a song that I made before the last one posted above. It's not as "professional" sounding, but the underlying beat is solid. I just need to tweak it, give a couple more instruments and a better sample of Mozart's Requiem (the full beat has thunder and lighting in the beginning but the intro is about 45 seconds long, so I cut it out for now).

This is the type of beat I like making. Old school hip-hop where it's not about dancing, but about bobbing your head and grooving with the flow.

Check it out: http://www.supload.com/music/Kashogistogi/Mozart/2O89EQ8NQGTB-download.html (http://www.supload.com/music/Kashogistogi/Mozart/2O89EQ8NQGTB-download.html)
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Stogi on November 20, 2008, 03:55:36 AM
NEW SONG! WOOT

http://www.supload.com/music/Fresh-download-ITZFS7MU3RBF.html

I think it's the best I've ever made! I have some lyrics I put on it but for some reason my computer keeps fucking up everytime I try to export it. Oh well....

Anyway, tell me what you think!
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: EasyCure on November 20, 2008, 09:16:29 AM
NEW SONG! WOOT

http://www.supload.com/music/Fresh-download-ITZFS7MU3RBF.html

I think it's the best I've ever made! I have some lyrics I put on it but for some reason my computer keeps fucking up everytime I try to export it. Oh well....

Anyway, tell me what you think!

Can do, just after work. Looking forward to it since i like your previous efforts.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Stogi on November 20, 2008, 12:58:23 PM
Cool. Let me know what you think. For some reason the song sounds better on my headphones than my speakers. Weird.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: EasyCure on November 20, 2008, 07:01:48 PM
Cool. Let me know what you think. For some reason the song sounds better on my headphones than my speakers. Weird.

dude you're talented, this track rocked my pants off.

I won't get into a big analysis here but here are my quick thoughts:

-This song immediately entrances you, which is always good

-It sounds simple until you pick out all the little things going on in the song and that's the sort of things that make these types of jams my favorite.

-the horns that come in at around 1:20 give it some bad ass Bond style that takes this track to epic proportions! My first thought was "this is what the Quantum of Solace theme should of sounded like!" (seriously, the song they had was trash. Chris Cornell does an amazing job with "i know your name" for CR then Jack White makes crap for QoS)

With your permission i'll add this to my ipod because its a sick song. Keep pumping these out and i'll listen to em, ever put out a record and i'd buy it (at a friendly discount ;))
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Stogi on November 20, 2008, 11:00:28 PM
That was exactly what I was going for. Seriously, QoS was my inspiration. EDIT: I was going for a remorse slash rampage kind of feel. A kinda deep sorrow that could only be fulfilled by hate. In a way, I wanted the brass to both let out the hatred but also show how there is no turning back. I really enjoyed making this song.

Thank you, I really appreciate it.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: DAaaMan64 on November 20, 2008, 11:19:55 PM
Hey I listened to the whole thing too... twice. It was real good. EC is right about the horn's. Keep it up
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Stogi on November 21, 2008, 05:27:17 AM
Thank you. Like I said, I have the song with some lyrics. They provide a really nice dynamic. Once I figure out how to actually incorporate lyric .wav files into my song legitimately, I'll re-post the song. I think you guys will like it.

I have another track I'd like you guys to listen to as well. It's not quite ready. I need this chick (with mad pianist skills) to overlay a nice jazzy track before I send it out. Again, I'll just post it in here whenever I'm done or close to being done.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on November 21, 2008, 11:33:08 AM
Could a mod please change sniperp's avatar so it'll stop causing a login prompt when I view this thread?
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: D_Average on November 26, 2008, 02:28:12 PM
Nice work, I like the way the bass comes in, keep it up!
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Dasmos on November 27, 2008, 12:09:13 AM
So my friend was a guitarist in this hardcore band, their guitarist dropped out a couple of week before they planned to record their demo. My friend asked me to replace the guy for the recording and to maybe play a couple of shows. I'm not a fan of this type of music at all, so I reluctanly accepted to help my friend out.

I helped finish songs on the demo, I played a couple of shows, I helped record the demo then three weeks later I left the band. The other guys were jerks and my friend was a jerk when he was with them.

Anyway about 2 years has passed now and they only have one member remaining from when I was in the band, but they're still kicking around recording an EP or something.

Their MySpace still has their demo up if anyone is interested...

http://www.myspace.com/tsotm (http://www.myspace.com/tsotm)

I won't be offended if you think it is ****, I do.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: EasyCure on November 28, 2008, 10:30:54 AM
If thats the case i'd like to say that it sounds like **** before even hearing it because "hardcore" as a genre is one of the most god awful types of music there is. I say either become a REAL metal band or learn to sing/use tunings other than dropped D/stop palm muting every other power chord. ****.

Don't even get me started on "hardcore" bands that go from screaming at the top of your lungs to soft harmonized singing, cuz guess what; you're not hardcore you're fucking emo.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Dasmos on November 28, 2008, 09:26:27 PM
Heh, while I prefer Hardcore music to Metal, they're both **** and Hardcore is freaking monotonous to play sometimes. That's why I didn't stay long. I just keep looking at this thread wanting to contribute, but I am too horrible with any sort of criticism to put of my actual music on!
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Stogi on November 29, 2008, 05:48:43 AM
Wiggles said it first, hardcore music is almost always god awful.

Still, you obviously put it up for a reason. I could  to listen to but you didn't do a very good job selling it. Would you like me to listen to it or not?
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Nick DiMola on November 29, 2008, 08:12:51 PM
As a fan of hardcore (it isn't ****!) I thought that stuff was pretty good Dasmos. I listened to it all, and while it isn't particularly unique (what hardcore stuff is honestly), it was catchy and professional sounding. If you have any more stuff I'd love to hear it.

I listened to some of Ian's stuff and was impressed by a number of tracks, so nice work there buddy. I also listened to Stogi's stuff, and while it isn't my typical fare it was catchy and well done.

Props to everyone, you all definitely have a talent that I wish I also possessed. While I can play guitar well enough, I don't have a creative bone in my body, thus I could never put together such imaginative stuff.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Dasmos on November 29, 2008, 11:04:22 PM
Still, you obviously put it up for a reason. I could  to listen to but you didn't do a very good job selling it. Would you like me to listen to it or not?

I was just putting it out there, some people might enjoy it. I didn't talk it up because 1. I'm not one to toot my own horn when it comes to music and 2. I don't personally think it's that great. It's really your perogative if you listen to it or not. If hardcore isn't your type of music then these probably won't be your type of songs.

As a fan of hardcore (it isn't ****!) I thought that stuff was pretty good Dasmos. I listened to it all, and while it isn't particularly unique (what hardcore stuff is honestly), it was catchy and professional sounding. If you have any more stuff I'd love to hear it.

Glad you liked it. While I do have more songs they're mainly written by me or co-written written with other members of my band and I'm no where near comfortable enough with them to put them out on the Internet for all to criticise. Maybe one day..
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: EasyCure on November 30, 2008, 07:12:08 PM
Wiggles said it first, hardcore music is almost always god awful.

Still, you obviously put it up for a reason. I could  to listen to but you didn't do a very good job selling it. Would you like me to listen to it or not?

i still listened to it, even though Dasmos didnt try to 'sell' it and nah i didnt like it. It was good quality though and not horrible, so if i was a fan of the genre i might like it but obviously i'm not, but i still have to give props where its due.

I feel the same way as you too, i keep looking at this thread and wanting to contribute something myself. I play guitar and i've recorded a few things in the past when i played more often but never any full compisitions or anything of quality thats worth putting up. Actually, most of my recordings got lost when my last computer died on me.

 The closest thing i have to show is a song that a friend and myself composed quickly and never really finished. We never realy got far in our musical projects because our taste where too different, one of his favorite bands and biggest influences was Fall Out Boy.. need i say more? Anyway after one of the last times we jammed, he went and re-recorded our lil jam on Garage Band with his new laptop and sent me this link to his myspace profile:

Myspace.com/EliasReyesProject "untitled" (http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=343228716)

The original version we recorded very mellow compared to this. I was lead guitar and didnt use so much distortion, it was a very smooth lick actually. His rythm wasnt distorded at all, in fact i prefered it when he playd his part acoustic but eh.. he adopted it into his prefered style i guess. To me it still sounds too different from what we'd done originally, but what he did with it isn't that bad and i still enjoy it.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Stogi on November 30, 2008, 08:24:06 PM
Ya, sorry about that Dasmos. I'm a prick when I'm drunk and I don't deal with self-loathing and lack of confidence well.

Quote
I won't be offended if you think it is ****, I do.

This erked me, that's all.

I'll listen to it (and yours as well Wiggles) and let you know what I think.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: EasyCure on November 30, 2008, 08:31:24 PM
lol no prob.

i wish i would of recorded my friend and i being drunk and playing guitar hero the other night. We were so fuckedu p and having so much fun. My falsetto must sound hilarious..
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Stogi on January 12, 2009, 11:03:47 PM
New Song.

It should sound very familiar.

I hope you enjoy

http://www.supload.com/listen?s=C9BQL7
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: BeautifulShy on January 13, 2009, 12:10:56 AM
Wow I love it.I liked the beat and the placement of laughs.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Stogi on January 13, 2009, 12:19:20 AM
Thank you. I thought the laughs put it over the top as well.

Is there anything you didn't like about it?
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: BeautifulShy on January 13, 2009, 12:27:26 AM
Nope. I loved everything.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Stogi on January 13, 2009, 12:38:48 AM
LOL ok. Well your welcome to download it and play it on your ipod!
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Khushrenada on January 13, 2009, 02:51:34 AM
Alright. I said I'd give you comments and I will. Moreover, I'll also tell you what I liked and what I'd improve.

First, when I heard this start, it brought a smile to my face. Awesome. Listening to it all the way through, I was like Maxi. Very good. The only thing that bugged me was the length and the giggling stopped being funny. Anyways, after listening to it 5 times in a row, I'm definitiely sure on the length. I think this song could be tightened up a bit. I'd also remove a lot of giggling. It started to annoy and then I just stopped hearing it completely. Now I realize this wasn't meant to be listened over and over but I did it to get my bearings and thoughts on the song.

Let's look at a more detailed breakdown and my suggestions of what I would do to change the song to my liking. That's really the key. I'm going to be applying my opinions and tastes to your music and they might not work for everyone since we all have different tastes. That's my disclaimer. You can consider it, but you don't have to take my suggestions. Onwards:

The first 25 seconds are great. You suddenly realize what you are listening to, nostalgia rushes in, there's some laughing to give you more of a smile. My only complaint here might seem petty but there's a reason for it. At 12 seconds, there is a cymbal clash that does nothing. It was jarring the first time I heard, it doesn't quite fit and moreover, when the cymbal clash is used again later in the song, it is often done to introduce or conclude a beat. Here, no beat is added. It is just a cymbal clash on its own.

At 25 seconds a beat starts. I would end the giggling here for awhile. At 48 seconds, some clapping is added to the beat. Then at the 1:00 mark, another beat is added. So, we've spent the last 35 seconds building up to this beat. Then, at the 1:12 mark, the beat slows down and seems to go back to where we are at the 48 second mark. So, we've building up and now we decrease. At the 1:25 mark, we add that missing beat back in. So, we increase again to where we were before at the 1:00 mark. And then at 1:38, the music changes.

The positive - the beat is pretty good and I like the way it works with the song and comes together. The critique - I can't help but feel this part could be tightened up a bit. I'm not sure if the beat should start sooner than the 25 second mark or if the elements come together. What's interesting is that after hearing that cymbol at the 12 second mark, we don't hear it again until the 1:00 mark to introduce the full beat. Again, why I say it is out of place. And do we need to put in the full beat, take it away and then put it back in? Of course, listening to the song and breaking it down, I know why you've done that. All through the song, the adding a beat, taking a beat away is a beat in itself, a rythym to the song. But, I don't think it works. There are times where I just the new sound that has been discovered to last instead of changing it's pacing a little fast, a little slower back and forth.

Listening to the two section, I.E. the music at 1:12 versus 1:25, I like the rythym that starts at 1:25 as a better lead into the change at 1:38, than the slower rythym that starts at 1:12. Of course, this is probably due to the fact that at 1:38, you again take out a beat and thus make the song seem to slow abit compared to 1:12 where that beat is already removed, thus a change in pacing isn't felt as much. Thus, I'd skip the beat removal at 1:12 and just keep the full beat going a little long and then changing it to:

1:38 - The space opera begins. Alright, so maybe it isn't anything opera like but that's the way I like to describe it. For some reason, it brings to my mind more space images than anything. I sort of get a metroid vibe to it. At least that's what it triggered in my brain. Maybe it's all the woo, woo, woo sounds that seem like an old 1950'S U.F.O. sound effect. Anyways, at 1:48, there is an increase in the beat again as the opera seems to be heading to it's high notes and then at the 2:00 mark, it again loses some that beat. But wait, at 2:13 the beat is back.

Again, this just comes back to my point about the yo-yoing of the beat and pace. With the extra beat, it seems to give the impression of the pace speeding up and then with its removal of the pace slowing down. Frankly, the sound is so good, I'd just like to hear it for awhile at a steady pace and hear that music unhurried and pure. This is like the meat of your song right here. The fact that you will repeat at least 2 other times, the same melody, in the song would suggest that. This is what you're beat has been leading up to, this is the emotional high of the song.

And then at 2:24, everything slows down and it is, oh so, excellant. After that uplifting space opera, that bright light of the Great Fairy's glow, everything has dimmed and we realize we are back in the dark cave and take a moment to reflect on the grandour we had just witnessed. Once again a little beat kicks in, this time at 2:37. I'd have left it out along with all the giggles still. The music is good here. It doesn't need a jolt every 12 seconds or so.

At 2:48, it changes up to what I'm going to refer to as synthesizer sound. Again, this sound is good without the effects of the cymbals or giggles or beat change at the 3:00 minute mark. Letting the yearning sound build on us.

At 3:11, the space opera returns. This time, I would suggest having all the beats going at once throughout it's whole part until the 3:36 mark instead os waiting until the 3:25 mark when the last beat is added in again to the song. Going by my compostition, we've heard the opera once before and we heard it with less of a beat. We've now gone through a period of relative slowness. A sort of pondering in the music. Instead of keeping that going, let's up the tempo a bit and make the opera a bit different from before by having all the beats going for this middle part.

At now at 3:36, we seem to have come full circle and are back at the start. Here's where we can add the giggling again if we so need it. We've forgotten about the other little fairies around us having been so entranced by the Great Fairy's beauty that we are reminded again of what brought us here and realize the journey we have just taken. But wait, the song isn't done yet. It's got a whole minute still. Consisting of what?

At the 4:00 mark, the synthesizer sound we heard at the 2:48 mark is back. Let's listen to that again. At 4:24, the great fairy opera is back with a slight beat change at 4:48 and then at 5:12 a sudden end as the song seems to be shot up to the heavens. Maybe Link is floating up from the cave ala Wind Waker.

What to do about the ending? Another reason why the song seems a bit longer than it should be. Part of the problem is it just seems to be looping now. We've gone back to the start which seems to signal a full journey as I said before but instead of it ending, we re-visit parts without adding anything new. As well,thesong just suddenly ends. I was expecting the notes to slow down.

My thoughts? Well, I'd cut out the Synth. Sure, it's good but we've heard it before and by only leaving it at one place in the song, it makes that moment special everytime the song is played, just like the part from 2:24 - 2:48. We could kick in the space opera again but do so at full beat and then slowly remove all the three different beats, again signifying to the listener's brain, this is wrapping up. With your last notes, you'd want to hold them longer such as going from quarter notes to half notes to the final note or two being whole notes. With that last note or so, you may still want to include that upswooshing sound at the end or even *gasp* a giggle. One final fairy laughing at the joy your visit has brought. And since there has been such restraint on the amount of giggling in the song, this one last giggle will not sound repetative.

Thus the story. You have arrived in the fountain. It is dark, it is peaceful, you hear laughter. You begin to awaken and look around in awe and began to see the various fairies and the white marble pool. Suddenly, the great fairy appears in all her splender and you take in this beauty. But the Great Fairy disappears, once more you are in a dark cave. You take in what you have just witnessed. You want to see the Great Fairy again. You need her magic for your quest. So, you walk forcefully to her throne. She appears again. Now with the beat, you accomplish your mission and get her blessing. Oh, it's still magical but now you are not muted and starstruck as when she first appeared. With her magic, you turn now and leave the cave, the sights and sounds of the cave filling your head as you head back to where you entered. You turn, once more, gaze at the Great Fairy and as you exit the cave, the image of the Great Fairy slowly exits from your mind as well. Was the whole thing just a dream?

Anyways, that's just the way I see it. Hope it helps.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Stogi on January 13, 2009, 03:44:23 AM
Good GOD! I wasn't expecting anything so.......thorough.

I really appreciate the time you put into the critique. I have a lot to think about; for instance, should I write the song as if it were a song or a story. I like your story idea and I think I'll shape it around that. Also, I can see how the giggles can get annoying. They come in every 15 seconds or so.

And a couple more things. For one, the woo woo sound is called 70's scifi, you were right on the money with that noise. I thought it transcended the song and that's why I added it. And yes, the cymbal is out of place.

This is exactly what I needed. When I make a song, I write all the parts in one bar then space them out accordingly and thus making the arrangement of the song. I don't put much thought on the arrangement, as much as I should, so your help is greatly appreciated.

Hmmm...I'm going to take your critique to heart and republish it. Once I do, you'll be the first to know.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Stogi on January 13, 2009, 12:06:17 PM
Well I took your advice and changed up pretty much everything.

You'll notice that once the space opera kicks in, after a bar, I slow down the beat and drop it. That is because I feel it puts more emphasis on the main melody when it comes back (the arpeggiated melody). But just like you said, the chill part of the song requires no giggle or overused cymbals so I threw those out. I still put in the shaker right before the second space opera just to give some sort of build up.

As for the end, again I took your advice and I think it sounds fantastic; almost uplifting, as if you were cured of all your ailments. The orchestra sounds particularly strong. I also echoed the hell out of the laughter at the end to simulate a cave. I think it worked pretty well.

Overall, I feel that the song is much tighter and doesn't overplay itself.

Anyway, let me know what you think.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Stogi on January 13, 2009, 01:55:15 PM
I forgot to add a link above!  Oh well, I ended up changing the song again. This time I added bass. I also let the beat run through then drop rather than slowing it down first.

Here it is again: Fountain v. 2 with bass

http://www.supload.com/listen?s=CWOR73
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Khushrenada on January 13, 2009, 09:09:37 PM
Alright. I just a chance to listen to it. Unlike last time, I'm not going to overanalyze things to much. Just state some quick thoughts.

First of, I do like this version also. Like you said, it doesn't feel to repetative now and it does feel tighter. Listening to it, I was thinking to myself that it feels faster yet watching the time, I see not much has changed as to when the different elements to the song get added. In that respect, the song is polished more than before.

I notice you didn't go with my suggestion of playing the first "space" melody without the beat and the second reprisal with the beat. And that's fine. I don't want my opinions to stifle your creativity. Moreover, I don't really mind the beat. Again, it helps keep the song feel like it is moving along at a fast clip. I also like how at one part in the "space" melody, it slows down and you pause the beat for a couple seconds. Once that slow part is done and the melody increases again, you kick the beat in again also. That's a great touch.

There are less sound effects and even though the laughter still shows up throughout, it's not as distracting as before and not as frequent which helps. I was surprised you ended it as you did since I mentioned you may want to play the space opera one final time and end with that slowly but I think this works better. I do like the song ending that ending, so that was great also. While you probably could have waited a measure or two before you slowed it down, I'm not going to get in to whether it was too soon or not. Just my thought.

Again, I liked this overall much more than the first arrangement and even though it's only about 40 seconds less than the first song or so, it doesn't drag which is a good thing for any song. And I really want to bring out the difference in not having that cymbal clash at the 0:12 mark. After listening to this version, I went back and listened to the first version and if there's one change I'm proud of making, it's that one. I don't but not having that one sound enhances the opening.


Anyways, glad I was able to aid you a bit. If you do want more of my bloated paragraph posts in the future, just ask. I will outdo Ian. Just you wait. (I kid, I don't find Ian wordy.) But at this point, I think it may be best for another person to give a critique now and get another outside voice on the song. Out of curiousity, I'd be interested what Maxi has to say about the two versions since he liked the first.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: BeautifulShy on January 14, 2009, 12:32:23 AM
Haven't had a chance to check the second one.I'll check it now.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Stogi on January 14, 2009, 12:32:41 AM
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I notice you didn't go with my suggestion of playing the first "space" melody without the beat and the second reprisal with the beat. And that's fine. I don't want my opinions to stifle your creativity.

I tried it your way, but it was way too disorientating. It sounded better to just let the beat continue.

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I do like the song ending that ending, so that was great also. While you probably could have waited a measure or two before you slowed it down, I'm not going to get in to whether it was too soon or not. Just my thought.

I'm not sure what your first sentence is saying. I've never slowed down a song manually before and I actually would love your opinion about when to slow it down. I think it sounds pretty good right now, but I still feel somethings off.

Also, you didn't comment on the bass. The bass isn't playing anything special, just the bottom notes of the rhythm section. The bass has two parts; one that's short and light while the other is long and heavy. I find the contrast between the two add much needed emphasis, while keeping the song from sounding overly repetitive.

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Anyways, glad I was able to aid you a bit. If you do want more of my bloated paragraph posts in the future, just ask.

I may have to take you up on that. Your quite good at this critiquing business. I mean the two songs are night and day. I have plenty of other songs that could use your wisdom.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: BeautifulShy on January 14, 2009, 12:44:38 AM
OK I listened to the second song and here are my impressions.
The laughing has been lessened alot.I personally would have added a few more.When I heard the first song after about 10 seconds I recognized the song and I put my mind in that setting and The laughing fit there.So I'm a little sad that it got shortened. Near the end of the song I liked.So I liked the song but wished there was more laughing.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Stogi on January 14, 2009, 12:54:37 AM
I could add a couple more. And I think I no where.......

Right now there are 5, can you spot them all?
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Khushrenada on January 14, 2009, 01:12:11 AM
Whoops-a-daisy. What I meant to say was I like it ending that way not ending that ending.

As for the bass, I didn't comment on it since I didn't really notice it too much. That's not a bad thing since it means it isn't a distraction but I need to pay attention to the song more. Like I said, I did a listen to that and went back to the old song to double check. In a couple days, I can probably add more to my comments if you want. Such as where I would suggest slowing the ending of the song.

But right now, I've got other things on the go and I still may be alive in mafia which will also take up a bit of time.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Stogi on January 14, 2009, 02:42:31 AM
Take your time. I already appreciate greatly all that you've done already.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: EasyCure on January 14, 2009, 09:51:12 AM
I liked it. i dont have time to over analyze everything though. Submit it to OCR
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Stogi on January 14, 2009, 01:05:10 PM
I just wen to the site and OCR's process is a pain in the ass. Have you seen the criteria they laid out? I like the idea but damn, I really don't care that much. I posted it on youtube anyway since that was where I first had this idea to make this song.

Maybe someday....
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: EasyCure on January 14, 2009, 03:03:36 PM
I just wen to the site and OCR's process is a pain in the ass. Have you seen the criteria they laid out? I like the idea but damn, I really don't care that much. I posted it on youtube anyway since that was where I first had this idea to make this song.

Maybe someday....

No i've never bothered lookiing since i have no means of composing/recording anything to submit.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Stogi on January 28, 2009, 08:48:40 PM
NEW SONG! WHOOO

http://www.supload.com/listen?s=MNiAKi

It's nothing like my old songs. This is the first time I ever used a guitar. I'm still trying to figure it out and piece it together. As always, an criticisms would be appreciated.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Stogi on January 28, 2009, 09:06:46 PM
Oh I just wanted to add that this was done on my laptop and not in studio. Thanks.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: EasyCure on January 28, 2009, 09:46:34 PM
i was feeling it until the guitar came in... lol
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Stogi on January 28, 2009, 10:05:26 PM
What's wrong with it in particularly? I know it sounds artificial, but was the melody alright? How about the rhythm?

Like I said, its my first time using a guitar.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: EasyCure on January 29, 2009, 09:50:33 AM
What's wrong with it in particularly? I know it sounds artificial, but was the melody alright? How about the rhythm?

Like I said, its my first time using a guitar.

I'll have to give it a more in depth listen, to be honest. I'll try to put on on my ipod tonight and get back to you with a critique over the weekend or early next week, right now I have a weird house situation going on and just can't listen to it there. Anyway, the main thing was that, yes, it did sound artificial but i didn't give it enough of a chance to really listen to the melody or rythm. I'd say for a first attempt its actually good, but i'll have to listen again.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Stogi on January 29, 2009, 04:49:20 PM
Just let me know. I know the guitars aren't perfect. The rhythms, melodies, and so on aren't where I'd like them to end up. Mostly because I plan on using a real band in the final production of this song. However, till then I thought I might as well experiment.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Stogi on March 25, 2009, 10:31:19 AM
So I'm DJing a party this Friday. It's my buddy's birthday, and I'm throwing him a bash. There's suppose to be (according to facebook) over 150 people coming. Should be a good time.

Anyway, I'm going to play some of my beats that I've already posted here in this thread at the party, but I also wrote two new songs just for the occasion. I thought to myself,  "what music would you want to here as soon as you stepped into a dance party?"

That's how I came up with these:

http://www.supload.com/listen?s=q3fxKm
http://www.supload.com/listen?s=q40qiW

I made them both yesterday so somethings such as arrangement and even instrument type aren't finished. I haven't mastered it yet either, so somethings maybe louder or softer than they should be.

Anyway, tell me what you think! My hope is to have a house full of people jumping to it.

EDIT: Oh and I forgot. One of them was influenced by the melody at the beginning of WindWaker (after the title screen). See if you can pick the right one!
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Dasmos on March 25, 2009, 11:02:38 AM
I keep getting error: 132 come up when I try to listen to them. Could just be me though.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: rbtr on March 25, 2009, 01:01:42 PM
Kashogi your stuff is great!  What are you using to sequence your beats?  It really makes me want to dive back into making that sort of stuff.  I did it differently though, I use a gameboy! Moonpie combo (https://umdrive.memphis.edu/jryngbld/nanoloop/moonpie%20combo.mp3?uniq=uwybkt), was made using nanoloop 2.1 and a gameboy advance.  Since then I've sold 2.1 to get a hold of !.3, which is for the original gameboy, and nastier!  If anybody cares to hear more, I've got a bit more.  I used to make a lot, so I've got a backlog!

I also play guitar, so Here's an example! (https://umdrive.memphis.edu/jryngbld/music/someday%20you%20will%20find%20me.mp3?uniq=uwygip).  Of course I'm only playing rhythm, but it should be noted that I wrote composition.  My friend is a recording technology major, and gets studio time at the university studio.  So it was recorded and mixed in a real studio!  A very fun experience.  He's the one playing bass, and he also sequenced the drums (from a beat I had sequenced on my gameboy).  And a friend from high school is playing the trumpet.

More than anything I'd like to make music for games.  Which is great because my roommate wants to make games!
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Stogi on March 25, 2009, 02:20:00 PM
Thanks. Your stuff sounds good as well.

Do you think people will like the beats? You think they'll dance to them?

I use a program called Reason 4.


And Dasmos, I don't know what's wrong, but it works for me. I am uploading them to Rapidshare as I type this. I'll post the links when they're ready.

EDIT:
http://rapidshare.com/files/213449344/Stanky.mp3.html
http://rapidshare.com/files/213449345/club.mp3.html
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 25, 2009, 05:32:23 PM
I like both of them. I think the first leads right into the second perfectly too. I was bobbing my head the whole time to both, so I'm sure you'll get **** poppin with those beats. Especially if you get someone to start freestyling too
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: EasyCure on March 25, 2009, 10:56:17 PM
So I'm DJing a party this Friday. It's my buddy's birthday, and I'm throwing him a bash. There's suppose to be (according to facebook) over 150 people coming. Should be a good time.

Anyway, I'm going to play some of my beats that I've already posted here in this thread at the party, but I also wrote two new songs just for the occasion. I thought to myself,  "what music would you want to here as soon as you stepped into a dance party?"

That's how I came up with these:

http://www.supload.com/listen?s=q3fxKm
http://www.supload.com/listen?s=q40qiW

I made them both yesterday so somethings such as arrangement and even instrument type aren't finished. I haven't mastered it yet either, so somethings maybe louder or softer than they should be.

Anyway, tell me what you think! My hope is to have a house full of people jumping to it.

EDIT: Oh and I forgot. One of them was influenced by the melody at the beginning of WindWaker (after the title screen). See if you can pick the right one!

Club. Whats my prize?


hot tracks as usual. when you get the final mixes up lemme know and i'll put em on my ipod ;)

oh and i like how both songs contain instrumentations that remind me of your other songs; the jam & fresh
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Stogi on March 25, 2009, 11:12:59 PM
Well done. It was Club.

I appreciate the praise. Thank you. But does anybody have any criticisms? As much as I love getting my ego stroked, I do need help. I can only critique my work so much.

And I'll definitely let you know when I have the final mixes up of all my songs.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: EasyCure on March 25, 2009, 11:24:59 PM
Well done. It was Club.

I appreciate the praise. Thank you. But does anybody have any criticisms? As much as I love getting my ego stroked, I do need help. I can only critique my work so much.

And I'll definitely let you know when I have the final mixes up of all my songs.

critiques later, time for bed.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 25, 2009, 11:48:22 PM
The only real critique I can give is that both songs have similar sounds, but they don't sound alike, so its not much of a critique.
The songs were playing and right when I was thinking, hey this beat could use a change up right about now, it had already started.

I am only listening to these on a laptop, so I don't have stereo sound with a sub hooked up(not at home) so I can't really comment on the bass line, but overall I really liked both beats. The 1st one I liked better & thought it sounded like something I could picture TI or another good dirrty souf rapper rappin to. The girl whose house I'm at like the second one better & also thought it had more of a southern style to it than the 1st.  But she has nothing critical to say about either of them because she liked both of them too.

wish I could be of more help, but it seems like you already tweaked most of the sounds and the timings(from what I can make out on this laptop) so I won't be able to offer anything further until I can hear it on my system at home.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Stogi on March 26, 2009, 02:35:03 AM
Well I'm glad the timings are set. I tried to set it as best I can. Still, subs are important for my music. I use alot of bass; alot! Any critique on what I consider one of the most essential parts of my songs would be helpful.

Oh and I would suggest getting a little tispy before reacting to the song. This is going to be played to a bunch of drunk people after all. You don't have to plan it that way of course. Even though this is going to played on Friday regardless, I'm always trying to perfect my **** (it might be my curse). So the next time your getting drunk with your peoples, just pop this on and react to it.

I'm not trying to make money with this or anything. It's just a hobby to me, like painting or soccer. I'm always trying to learn from my mistakes.

Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: ThePerm on March 26, 2009, 02:38:31 AM
how about

Ghost riders in the Sky (an oft covered song that has enormous crossover appeal)
vs
Knights of Cydonia- Muse
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Stogi on March 26, 2009, 03:42:27 AM
I don't know what you mean....

Do you want me to try and mix those or something?
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: ThePerm on March 26, 2009, 04:50:10 AM
nah, i was just fiddling with my play list and i just thought the songs are similar.

if you mixed them then that would be pretty damned cool.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Stogi on March 26, 2009, 03:38:46 PM
NEW SONG!

I don't know if I'll play it tomorrow considering I made it yesterday. It needs to be cleaned up that's for sure.

But what do you guys think?

http://www.supload.com/listen?s=B8IZmc
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: EasyCure on March 26, 2009, 03:45:51 PM
jesus, stop being so productive, i can't keep up!
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Stogi on March 26, 2009, 03:48:29 PM
Haha

I don't need a critique of this one; just a yay or nay.

So....yay or nay?
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: EasyCure on March 26, 2009, 04:01:58 PM
Haha

I don't need a critique of this one; just a yay or nay.

So....yay or nay?

lol no speakers on my work computer
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 26, 2009, 04:33:54 PM
I really like the new one too, but I'm still listening on a laptop.
My only critique this time is that it sounds too synthesized. Experiment with a new instrument package. I know those can be expensive, and I know this cause my friend used to make beats with Reason and he had all sorts of Instrument packages (not sure if he paid for them, but he would tell me how much they cost anyway).

Other than that, I really like it and could have honestly mistook it as the beat off of an upcoming new album.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Stogi on March 26, 2009, 04:46:01 PM
Haha

I don't need a critique of this one; just a yay or nay.

So....yay or nay?

lol no speakers on my work computer

Oh snap! I forgot.

I really like the new one too, but I'm still listening on a laptop.
My only critique this time is that it sounds too synthesized. Experiment with a new instrument package. I know those can be expensive, and I know this cause my friend used to make beats with Reason and he had all sorts of Instrument packages (not sure if he paid for them, but he would tell me how much they cost anyway).

Other than that, I really like it and could have honestly mistook it as the beat off of an upcoming new album.

Ya if your talking about the orchestra and brass sounding too synthesized, there's not much I can do with it until I remake it in the studio. Those are the best samples I'm afraid. :(

Still, I'm glad you like it!

BTW, you are all welcome to download this to your computer/ipod. Just remember who made it! ;)
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: ThePerm on March 27, 2009, 12:01:12 AM
Kashogi i just got around to listening to your songs. I love NewHRB... it does everything i like music to do
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Stogi on March 27, 2009, 11:03:27 AM
Yeah? You liked that one?

The concept for that beat came about 5 years ago and I just remade it. I was using fruityloops back then. Actually it's one of the few songs that actually has lyrics to go with it. Just let me know if I should post that.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: ThePerm on March 27, 2009, 04:13:49 PM
lyrics? oooh yeah!

so what sound packet do you work with, i always wanted to mess around with music, but nothing free seems to work well. I used to use fruity loops, but this was before i really appreciated music. Plus trying to install cracked fruity loops it never seems to work anymore. oh lol and i made a hilarious song once, i just got to get it from my buddy. lol nevermind..should read the whole thread... reason 4
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 27, 2009, 10:29:24 PM
I was listening to your song Stanky (http://www.supload.com/listen?s=q3fxKm), and I decided to rough draft a quick rap to it

not that quick, but it is a rough draft. took me about 30-40 minutes since I kept being distracted by the TV
check your PM its titled Park & Ride or Stop & Go
It doesn't match up with the breakdown of the beat, but if I feel like revising it further than a rough draft, I might make it fit a lil better
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Stogi on April 09, 2009, 01:08:03 PM
NEW SONG!

So as many of you don't know, and undoubtedly don't care, my birthday was on the 7th! I turned 22. Though I may have celebrated a little, the real celebration starts this Saturday when I throw a party in a high rise flat in the middle of downtown Chicago. This place is so plush that it even has marble statues in the motherfucker.

That's right; your boys a G.

Anyway, I made a new song last night to commemorate the occasion. I'm not going to lie; I made this song for girls to get naked to and feel sexy while doing it. Unlike my other songs that have been posted, this one is without synth (thank god right?).

I haven't had a chance to master it yet. Still, take a listen and let me know what you think. Then play it for your girl and let me know what she thinks.

http://rapidshare.com/files/219355460/Laid_v_HB.mp3.html
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: EasyCure on April 09, 2009, 01:21:21 PM
happy belated. I'll check the song out from home, as usual. I still owe you some feedback on your last few tracks.


i cant believe you're younger than me (even if by a year). I always figured you were older (though not by much)
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Dasmos on April 12, 2009, 02:06:39 PM
I've really enjoyed all your recent offerings Kashogi. Sorry if you've already mentioned it but I can't be bothered going through five pages of comments but, what program do you use?

Also my band has got some studio time in a couple of weeks when we're recording a demo. We've been playing a couple of shows around town and writing some new songs so maybe it'll trun out alright. If I'm proud of what we've done I'll throw it up here.

Also with my "solo" stuff (e.g songs that my band wouldn't like if I brought it to them) I've sort of been getting into the noise-pop stuff (e.g. No Age, Times New Viking and Wavves type stuff). Again I'm a bit of a dick when it comes to accepting criticism, especially when it's such a acquired genre like "noise-pop", so I'm probably not going to post anything.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: EasyCure on April 13, 2009, 09:56:48 AM
I've really enjoyed all your recent offerings Kashogi. Sorry if you've already mentioned it but I can't be bothered going through five pages of comments but, what program do you use?

Also my band has got some studio time in a couple of weeks when we're recording a demo. We've been playing a couple of shows around town and writing some new songs so maybe it'll turn out alright. If I'm proud of what we've done I'll throw it up here.

Also with my "solo" stuff (e.g songs that my band wouldn't like if I brought it to them) I've sort of been getting into the noise-pop stuff (e.g. No Age, Times New Viking and Wavves type stuff). Again I'm a bit of a dick when it comes to accepting criticism, especially when it's such a acquired genre like "noise-pop", so I'm probably not going to post anything.

This "noise-pop" sounds interesting to me, mind PMing me some of your work? I wont even criticize your work unless i feel like calling it shitty "Hardcore" ;)
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Stogi on April 13, 2009, 01:39:09 PM
Thanks for the kind words, Dasmos. As a music connoisseur, I would love to here some of the things you made.

Post them!
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: ThePerm on April 13, 2009, 07:26:22 PM
i liked your last posted song Kashogi, but i think towards the middle it just repeats for too long, it eventually moves on, but if it moved on a little quicker it would be a little tighter. it just seems like 3 identical movements right after the other.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Stogi on April 13, 2009, 07:31:09 PM
Your exactly right, that's why I changed it!

I have a new, much better version. I'll post it when I have the time.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: ThePerm on April 14, 2009, 12:26:52 AM
Music Theory Class FTW!
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Stogi on April 20, 2009, 01:54:36 PM
~~~NEW SONG~~~

I made a song last night before I went to bed. The theme? Hawaii. I've never made this type of song before. It, however, incorporates a lot of techniques I've used in the past. Though I am not finished with it (as always), I know exactly how I want finish it. Imagine this, African tribal chants (similar to the ones in Paul Simon's - On My Way) but with Hawaiian words instead.

I don't know any Hawaiian words so I made some up. When I get a mic I'll search for words the sound similar.

Here's what I hear in my head:

Haluluway (tambourine)
Haluluway (tambourine)
Haluluway (tambourine)
Haluluway (tambourine)
Haluluway (tambourine) ay'
Haluluway (tambourine) ay'

As always, let me know what you think! Can you picture the sunrise on the beach? That's all I'm going for.

http://rapidshare.com/files/223676228/Hawaii2.mp3.html
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: EasyCure on April 20, 2009, 02:07:24 PM
i still haven't listened to your last two songs...

STOP BEING SO DAMN PRODUCTIVE!
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Stogi on April 20, 2009, 02:11:39 PM
hehe

I've made several songs since the last two. I don't share everything I make :). Hell, I just made another today.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: EasyCure on April 20, 2009, 02:12:04 PM
D'OH
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Stogi on April 21, 2009, 11:19:49 AM
I'd like to add that my new song reminds me of WindWaker. I feel like I just landed on a new island.

Can anyone else picture it?
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Stogi on April 21, 2009, 12:21:03 PM
I made it into a youtube video for those of you too lazy to download it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GXvhSU7FQg
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: D_Average on April 21, 2009, 08:47:50 PM
I made it into a youtube video for those of you too lazy to download it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GXvhSU7FQg

Where's the FEMALZ???

Other than that, I dug it.  Nice touch w/ the bass.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Stogi on April 22, 2009, 01:10:39 PM
Haha

I appreciate the kind words. It's the first song I've done like this.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Ian Sane on May 19, 2009, 12:52:16 PM
Well it has been a while since I posted a new song.  It's actually been a while since I wrote a new song period.

My band has entered a contest for a local Vancouver radio station and we get to setup a little site to promote ourselves for that.  So there's my plug. ;)  But the site also has the songs we sent to the station for the contest so it's a good way to let you guys listen to what we've been working on.  http://seeds.cfox.com/Assorted-Guns

Get Out of My Face was written by myself and my brother.  I shared that one years ago but this is a new recording of it.  Today was written by my friend and I don't remember if I shared that or not.  Anymore is a new song I wrote about a month ago.  I would say thus far it's the best song I've ever written.  The best songs I've ever heard have this "feel" to them.  I can't describe it I just know when a song has got it.  I didn't know if I could write a song like that.  With this song I feel like I finally did that.  I fussed over the song a lot more than the usual "hey these three chords sound together" songwriting I usually do.  In this case I refreshed my knowledge in music theory and didn't settle.  I had a melody in my head and made sure that's EXACTLY what the end results sounded like.  Lyrically I rewrote the third verse many times to express exactly what I wanted.  And although it doesn't appear in the recording I used Korg DS-10 to help write it so there's a Nintendo reference. ;)  The song is also very personal.  The lyrics are real and ended up being almost literally about what inspired them.  This is also the first time where something happened that made me think "I should write a song about this" and I went and did it.  I've grown as a songwriter and that's exciting.  I wonder what I'll write in the future.

The quality of our recordings has gone WAY up since the first songs we did.  My brother also does the lead vocals now as he has proven to be a much better singer than me.

Anyway I hope you guys like them. :)
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: EasyCure on May 19, 2009, 01:16:35 PM
I'll have to check this out later when i'm not at work. I'm very curious to hear what sort of creativity Ian has.

Also want to see if me getting him into Bloc Party has had any influence on him at all ;)
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: vudu on May 19, 2009, 02:41:18 PM
"Today" sounds kinda like early Butthole Surfers--the verses remind me of the song"Goofy's Concern".

"Anymore" is kinda boring.  I started listening to the song and got bored after about a minute.  I started doing other things online and a few minutes later I realized I was still listening to the song.  I had completely forgotten it was on--it just blended into the background.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Stogi on May 26, 2009, 10:59:05 PM
***NEW SONGS***

I made this first song in Hawaii for my girl, though at the time I didn't consider her that. It uses alot of the same sounds and techniques as some of my other songs, but I was put on the spot and didn't have time to experiment with anything new. Even so, I don't think I'm going change it much, if at all. I'm pretty proud of how it turned out, considering it only took about 15 minutes to complete.

She loves it, but what do you guys think?

http://www.supload.com/listen?s=39xeE7

This next song I made specifically for Red & Meth. I spent all day on it. I'm going for a mad scientist, dark feel to it. I could really use some help with this one, not necessarily with the melody but with the composition.

http://www.supload.com/listen?s=sOAbz1

This last song I made the morning before my flight. I take inspiration from my surroundings, and this time was no different. On my last day, on an island; conversation played out into a melody. I had to make this song! As a result, this was probably the easiest song I've ever made.

http://www.supload.com/listen?s=1eCz5V
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 29, 2009, 07:27:29 PM
***NEW SONGS***

She loves it, but what do you guys think?

http://www.supload.com/listen?s=39xeE7
I found myself bouncing to this one. Once again I'm listening on a laptop, so I don't know if you incorporated any surround sound into that beat. if you had that beat orbiting* my head while in the car, chillin in the room or out at the club, I would just be able to get lost in the beat.

*haha get it, orbiting because the name of the song is Gravity
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This next song I made specifically for Red & Meth. I spent all day on it. I'm going for a mad scientist, dark feel to it. I could really use some help with this one, not necessarily with the melody but with the composition.

http://www.supload.com/listen?s=sOAbz1
I can already hear Red & Meth rappin to that beat. I can see Reggie lovin that beat from the moment it started and Meth jumpin in on a session. Its a very mellow, laid-back, puff puff pass session type beat.
The beat itself isn't really my style, but from all the Redman albums and everything I've heard Red&Meth do together, I think you nailed their style near perfectly. I can't pinpoint what I would change, but whatever it was, I'm sure would be relatively minor.

edit 2: After letting this one play a few times, I started to like it more and more. I really think you nailed the sound you were going for.
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This last song I made the morning before my flight. I take inspiration from my surroundings, and this time was no different. On my last day, on an island; conversation played out into a melody. I had to make this song! As a result, this was probably the easiest song I've ever made.

http://www.supload.com/listen?s=1eCz5V
I'm guessing since this one stemmed from a conversation, you already have some lyrics prepared to go with this one based on the way it plays out like matching words are being said to it at the same time. This seems like the beat you would use to rap about your trip to hawaii and overcoming inner fear to meet the girl that made the trip all worth it. The beat almost sings the words for you. Made me think this on the fly while listening to it:

potential chorus:
I don't know what to say...
I know what I want to say...
I don't know how to say
Damn these girls drive me cra-zay

So many words in my head
images leading to the bed
some-times its just best
to sit back and watch instead

But I gotta say whats on my mind
In this moment, in this time
everything is moving forward
there's no way to re-wind


And to me it seems like the two that came to you the easiest, came out the best. I like the middle one for what it is, but its not really a beat that captures me like the 1st one or the 3rd one.

edit: I left the 3rd beat playing and decided to see what spilled out, I edited in the rest.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Stogi on May 29, 2009, 11:41:54 PM
Thank you for the kind words. I'm glad you liked them! It's especially reassuring to hear your thoughts on my Red & Meth beat. Let me know if I should change anything; I'd like to send it off on Sunday.

But it's unfortunate that your listening to it on your laptop (with headphones?), but only because I use a lot of bass in each of these songs. It's all good either way though. I appreciate it.

Oh and as for my third song, the conversation that I referred to happened while I was enjoying a scoop of ice cream. So while the conversation did play out into a melody (almost exactly, apart from a little repetition; with her as the highs and myself as the lows), you understand why I wouldn't want it as my lyrics. It's personal.

I like what you wrote though; and if a nigga like Urrsher sang it, it could be real tight.

P.S. The reason I made the first song like I did and eventually named it 'Gravity' was for two reasons; one, our attraction was as natural as gravity, and two, I was falling for her. Well more like plummeting; like how a man would plummet towards earth. I wanted the song to exemplify that emotion. /emo
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 30, 2009, 12:40:24 AM
I forgot to listen to the songs again when I stopped at my house earlier. I'm at this girls house and I'm on her laptop(no head phones), I don't actually own a laptop. But I let all 3 songs loop for atleast 10-15 minutes in some cases.

About what I wrote, I was thinking of your story in Hawaii and how it took you several times to get up the nerve to ask that girl out.
But I'm sure you already figured that out. I think it came out pretty good, and as you know, a dope beat and a good hook is all you need to blow up on the radio. And I'm glad you liked it.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Stogi on July 21, 2009, 09:03:23 PM
It's a while since I shared a song with you guys.

All this talk about my lovely Lucidious (my part husky/part wolf), made me want to use a wolf howling sample and so I went home after work and made this song.

http://www.supload.com/listen?s=n5NIdN


EDIT: My final cut of it. Enjoy!

http://www.supload.com/listen?s=duyog6
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Stogi on July 26, 2009, 10:24:31 PM
********NEW SONG**********

This song is similar to the last one in that it uses some of the same instruments, but other than that, it's my most violent song yet.

It's basically a song about the ghetto version of Jason, except Jason's a hustler and he needs his money.....and he gets his money. The main melody is suppose to be creepy while the chorus is suppose to be the repercussions of having fucked over Jason. The other part where the synth bounces up and down is suppose to simulate the person running away and the bells are there to tell you that it's futile as if the "bells toll for thee".


I don't know what I was thinking but the more time I put into it, the more violent it became. It was alot of fun to make though, especially using all the little samples and having to piece them together to make something you could visualize.

Enjoy and as always, let me know what you think!

EDIT: I forgot to add the link http://www.supload.com/listen?s=Pwp6rU
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Stogi on December 13, 2009, 08:44:39 PM
Wow, it's been a long time since I posted a beat for you guys. This is cut from my cd (though rappers are still pending; hell, i might have to do it myself). It borrows heavily from trance and trance techniques but I feel that is what rap is becoming; a mesh of dance cultures.

http://www.supload.com/listen?s=J456jc
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 13, 2009, 08:56:08 PM
Sounds good.
I'm listening to it on the TV speakers, so I didn't get a real good sense of the bass output, but the beat is solid. Makes me wish I could rap, then I would put something down for you.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: D_Average on December 13, 2009, 09:35:30 PM
I like it.  Just for the hell of it, give me a topic and I'll rap over it.  I'm white like Lindy, so brace yourself.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Stogi on December 13, 2009, 09:44:58 PM
BNM: Yeah...with all my songs, they definitely need a solid pair of headphones or speakers. I'm glad you like it.

D_Average: I'm glad you like it too. umm.....this song was made for the party scene, so any subject that revolves around that. But it honestly could be about anything.

Anyone else want to step in and give him a subject?

EDIT: I'm going to work on the hook.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: EasyCure on December 13, 2009, 09:52:51 PM
I like it.  Just for the hell of it, give me a topic and I'll rap over it.  I'm white like Lindy, so brace yourself. Blowin yo mind like its windy, watch yo mental health

word!

I'll check the song out
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: D_Average on December 13, 2009, 09:58:11 PM
I just relapsed, so give me a few weeks, and I should be able to throw something somewhat coherent together.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: EasyCure on December 13, 2009, 09:59:34 PM
Wow, it's been a long time since I posted a beat for you guys. This is cut from my cd (though rappers are still pending; hell, i might have to do it myself). It borrows heavily from trance and trance techniques but I feel that is what rap is becoming; a mesh of dance cultures.

http://www.supload.com/listen?s=J456jc

Listening to the intro and i like it so far

I like the K Wise Production bit and i'm hoping you don't over do it like Kid Cuddie...

The melody that starts @ 0:52 reminds me of Metroid Prime tones.. good **** ;)

ahh... @ 2:08, the song just kinda died for me, even though it started to slow down around 1:55. Without a vocal or something there, it sounds kinda barren..

@2:21 reminds me of The Jam.. lol

As usual, the song picks up again and ends, leaving you wanting more. Good **** Stogi. Glad you didn't do the Kid Cuddie thing ;)

Now, after like 7 different edits to this post because i was commenting on your song as i listened to it, I'm gonna go put it on my ipod :D
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Stogi on December 13, 2009, 10:03:30 PM
I play it at the beginning to open up the beat. Kinda like the "Convict Music" you hear at the beginning of any Akon song. It's on all my newest beats. I think it makes it sound more official.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Dasmos on December 13, 2009, 11:10:12 PM
All it needs is some auto-tune.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Stogi on December 14, 2009, 01:20:48 AM
That's the last thing I want on any of my songs.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: EasyCure on December 14, 2009, 09:42:08 AM
Why not? D_average + autotune = hit pop song :P
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Stogi on December 14, 2009, 12:11:55 PM
***Hook***

Like my phone says!
I came with 3 G's
Rollin' up on double d's
with an ounce of them trees
HEY!
Cuz I'm the man, girlfriend
Anything bad said about me is blasphemy
GOD DAYUM!
Cuz I know you don't know me (know me)
But these girls will vouch for me (vouch for me)
Don't get it twisted,
I don't want to be your guy,
I just want you by my side,
for the rest of the night,
HEY!
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: ThePerm on February 05, 2010, 07:41:07 PM
i think i'll use this (get it) song on my demo reel, its like puzzle solving demo display goodness, and it makes me want to play metroid
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Ian Sane on February 08, 2010, 12:37:48 PM
Hey, I completely forgot.  I recently updated a new song to my band's MySpace site.  The new song is called And I Say.
 
http://www.myspace.com/assortedguns (http://www.myspace.com/assortedguns)
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: EasyCure on February 08, 2010, 10:29:03 PM
Hey, I completely forgot.  I recently updated a new song to my band's MySpace site.  The new song is called And I Say.
 
http://www.myspace.com/assortedguns (http://www.myspace.com/assortedguns)

I really wanted to (finally) check out your bands music, and I even updated my computers flash player since I could'nt listen to it on Myspace without it. For some reason, it still won't work lol. I'll have to give you feedback some other time.

edit: Some other time is now!

I'm going to be dead honest here; this really wasn't what I was expecting from you Ian. If you took away the fact that the vocal melody sounded almost exactly like Social Distortion's "Story of My Life" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oh8zcbC_Dcw) (listen to the chorus), i probably wouldn't of thought the song was very catchy.

I did, however, really enjoy both Creep, Radiant Someone, and Clutter (although Clutter sounds a little similar to Radiant Someone, and RS is much better IMHO). The vocals are a little hard to get in to, but i've heard so much worse its not even funny.

Oh and i wish i woulda taken a screen cap but I think myspace is dissing you and your band.. twice when on your page i notied a banner ad reading "meet REAL guys (a playground for women)" lol
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Ian Sane on February 09, 2010, 12:19:42 PM
I am aware of the Story of My Life similarities.  I wonder if I played Guitar Hero 3 a little too much. ;)  It was unintentional though.  I liked the end results so I figured "eh, **** it."  A lot of songs sound similar.  I've had songs I started writing years ago that I had to scrap because some major band later released a song that sounded almost exactly the same.  "Gone Away" by Offspring and "Do the Evolution" by Pearl Jam are two songs that when they first came out I thought "Wait, that's my song!  DAMN IT!"

I never really noticed any similarity between Radiant Someone and Clutter.  I guess it's because I know the chord structures are different.

When I go to the site the ad I get is for a biker dating site.  I have no idea where the HELL that would come from.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: EasyCure on February 09, 2010, 06:42:52 PM
I've been in the same boat and have always had to burst someones bubble as well. My best friend would come up with riffs that'd he show me and id say "uh, sorry dude.. that's aerosmith :p"

Then again I'm very anal about that sorta thing. For instance I heard a song by Cold Cave on the radio the other day, first time ever hearing Cold Cave, and within seconds I thought "wait, this is Goodbye Horses by Lazzerus!" And I couldn't enjoy the song. I ended up checking out more of their music, and they're damn good! But any time that one song plays, I think Goodbye Horses.

It happens.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Ian Sane on February 10, 2010, 02:13:58 PM
A couple weeks ago I started fiddling with a riff during band practice and said to my brother "hey this sounds pretty good."  He said "it should since it's that riff I came up with six months ago and taught you how to play!"  Yeah, I thought this was coming to me a little too easily.  Though at least some member of the band came up with it.  He once started playing a Tom Cochrane song and was blown away as I appeared to come up with a lyrical melody on the spot. I was being cheeky. :)  My drummer tried to do that to me once but it doesn't work when you sing the lyrics in a different tune!  He's remarkably bad at getting vocal melodies wrong.  In karaoke it's like a mix of humour and frustration.  "Dude you have this CD!  How are you so unfamiliar with this song!  You're not even singing in the same key!  How are you, a songwriter and musician, fucking this up so badly?!"

What's funny about the "hey I wrote this song!" scenario I mentioned above is that when I hear the "real" song it sounds wrong to me.  The chorus for "Do the Evolution" sounds to me like Eddie Vedder stealing the verse melody from one of my songs and trying to change it so it doesn't sound like a rip-off.  But he's never heard my song.  No song I've ever heard actually uses the vocal melody I came up with it.  The awkward-to-me melody that Eddie Vedder is singing is what he came up with on his own.  But it sounds fucking terrible to me.

"Everything's Gone Green" by New Order sounds weird to me because it sounds like an awkward re-write of "Blue Monday".  But "Everything's Gone Green" was actually released FIRST, I just only heard "Blue Monday" first because it's the better-known song.  So essentially New Order re-wrote one of their own songs and got something better.

I was very intolerant of this before I ever learned to play an instrument because I just assumed it was all intentional.  But it really just happens.  There are only 11 notes and just the written music we still have a record of goes back hundreds of years.  Unless you're somehow inventing new notes anything you've written has been done before.  It's really just how you arrange and present it.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: ThePerm on February 10, 2010, 08:34:14 PM
lol googbye horses :P

Creep sounds like its out of Doom
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: EasyCure on February 10, 2010, 09:08:51 PM
lol googbye horses :P

Creep sounds like its out of Doom

It's true! haha check 'em out:

Goodbye Horses (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_DVS_303kQ) By Q Lazzarus
vs
Love Comes Close (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fzku_5WB5yE) by Cold Cave

If you're familiar with Goodbye Horses, I'm sure you'll spot the similarities instantly. It's not like "omg this is an exact ripoff!" but you'd have to wonder if they weren't inspired by it in the slightest.

Oh and speaking of Doom, another new band I got into has a song that reminds me of that game.. It's a stretch, but This song by Metric (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIOA8ERd_Jc) vaguely reminds me of a mix of Doom's E1M1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRfCtpr2bkQ) and E1M2's (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPwC1sRNtpk&feature=related) music, if mashed up, but only in tone. You might not even hear it and just think i'm crazy :P
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Stogi on March 17, 2010, 04:56:01 PM
ALBUM ART! WOOOOT!

(http://i43.tinypic.com/f1lj4i.jpg)
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Ian Sane on March 17, 2010, 07:08:40 PM
Cool!  Too bad we're not in the vinyl era anymore.  That would look great on a big record sleeve.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Dasmos on March 17, 2010, 10:49:46 PM
No joke. I've even bought mediocre albums on vinyl before just because I like the cover art.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: D_Average on March 18, 2010, 08:03:28 PM
Nice work Stogi.  Reminds me of a cross between Daft Punk and 70's rock band art.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: vudu on March 19, 2010, 01:40:54 PM
I like it, but it looks an awful lot like the cover art for The Strokes album Room on Fire (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Room_on_Fire_cover.jpg).
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Stogi on March 19, 2010, 03:04:35 PM
Thanks everyone!

Vudu: I don't see it.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: vudu on March 19, 2010, 03:15:09 PM
Mostly just in the colors and the circular pattern with the section cut out.  Purely coincidental.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: EasyCure on March 20, 2010, 03:44:50 PM
Thanks everyone!

Vudu: I don't see it.

You're welcome! I mean thanks! I got proper album art for my ipod and don't have to use that placeholder art...

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l28/ThreeImaginaryBoys/kashogistogi.jpg)
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Stogi on April 01, 2010, 08:50:10 PM
NEW SONG! (http://soundcloud.com/stogi/k-wise-productions-grimm)

So I decided to stop having people rap over my beats. People just don't get it. It's not about the money...the money and the cars, and the clothes...and the hoes...I suppose...

This new song I could use some help with. I had this melody stuck in my head all day. I had to come home and put it down. But this is the first song I want to actually put lyrics to and see if I'm qualified and not in a sarcastic way.

So does the main melody get annoying? Do the drums need more kick? Does there need to be more variation between structure? What about the chords? Should they move up or down in pitch?

Any help would be appreciated. Mind you, I'm not going to have a chorus and if I do, its only going to happen once. So basically its a good 2 minutes and 40 seconds of straight flow.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: ThePerm on April 02, 2010, 12:29:58 AM
lol im trying to put words to it, thinking about it I think maybe this melody doesn't need rapping over it, singing would be more appropriate, like something coldplay-esque, or usher-esque
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Stogi on April 02, 2010, 12:44:21 AM
I was thinking I would rap pretty quick over it with some sentences that don't rhyme but have rhythmic value...if that makes sense.

But its funny that you mention coldplay because in my head, the melody was played by a guitar. But my guitar samples suck so I switched it to a more electronica version.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 02, 2010, 01:45:10 AM
I liked the beat, especially the part where it breaks down. Something about the timing seemed a little off, but if you flow kinda fast to it, it's not a problem. I wish I could record or remember what I had just freestyled to it though, it seemed to fit pretty well.

Maybe I'll play it again later and try to write something down.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Stogi on April 02, 2010, 04:45:22 AM
A much better, FULLER, version is up.

Something was weird with my last version. It really felt empty, but I thought lyrics would fill the gap so I recorded maybe a minute freestyle, but it still felt empty. So I proceeded to add some instruments.

Let me know what you guys think of this version.

Track (http://soundcloud.com/stogi/k-wise-productions-grimm)
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 03, 2010, 03:21:08 PM
You didn't post the freestyle that goes with it.

I think my last statement cover the beat still. The timing that certain beats hit encourage a faster and and more stylized flow. I honestly like it. Do you have them all in one place online so that I could show them to my boys cousin next time I run into him. He's part of a rap group that;s been together for about 7-8 years now and maybe they would like to work with some of your beats.

Do you sell or lease them or whatever?
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Stogi on April 03, 2010, 05:08:01 PM
Yeah I didn't post the freestyle because it was....simply to see how lyrics would fit on top of the beat. Though I will say it helped me decide the theme of the rap. I'm going with something like this:

"I don't want you to play this up in club
I don't want you to play this while you're making love
I don't want you to play this on the radio station
I don't want you to play this for a sense of elation"

And so on and so forth till I switch it up and say

"But don't you want to play this when you're about to smash
And don't you want to play this when you're getting ass"

I think something like that would be pretty cool. It wouldn't all be like that though. Sometimes I'd break away from the formula just to do or say something interesting, but I'd come right back to it afterward.

And the site I linked you to will soon have an albums worth of tracks. I'll let you know as soon as I put it up.

Also I haven't sold or leased any of my beats, but people have asked if I do.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: EasyCure on April 04, 2010, 01:13:21 PM
i tried checkin the link and the site doesn't seem to be working right.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Stogi on April 04, 2010, 01:32:46 PM
Hmmm....weird. I had just accessed it last night.

I'll let you know when the sites back up.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: EasyCure on April 04, 2010, 03:24:07 PM
thanks for letting me know its back up. i checked it out real quick and all i can say is;

It sounds like something out of Donkey Kong Country 2, and remixed.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Stogi on April 04, 2010, 03:25:30 PM
lol obviously you weren't diggin' the synth. No worries.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: EasyCure on April 04, 2010, 03:39:56 PM
actually, i was. DKC2 has awesome music, which i was comparing your latest track to. It wasn't a comment on the quality of the samples used.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Stogi on April 04, 2010, 09:07:16 PM
Oh aight. Well do you have any critiques?
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: EasyCure on April 05, 2010, 05:34:24 PM
I'll have to give it a second listen and right now isn't the best time. I'll PM you when i get around to it.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: gbuell on April 06, 2010, 06:53:10 PM
I play electric piano for a songwriter friend of mine, and help co-write some of her tunes, and we just got our album finished up and online. It's fairly lo-fi pop/alt-country/folk music for the most part, so if any of you are into that, take a listen! Here are a couple of the tunes:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/878328/07%20Question%20Marks.m4a

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/878328/03%20Wake.m4a
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: EasyCure on April 06, 2010, 06:57:08 PM
I play electric piano for a songwriter friend of mine, and help co-write some of her tunes, and we just got our album finished up and online. It's fairly lo-fi pop/alt-country/folk music for the most part, so if any of you are into that, take a listen! Here are a couple of the tunes:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/878328/07%20Question%20Marks.m4a

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/878328/03%20Wake.m4a


Considering I've been digging acts like Rilo Kiley, Florence + The Machine & Reni Lane lately.. I'm digging this!

ps. who the hell is grant?!

edit: I'm REALLY digging it. Where can I exchange some $ for the album?
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: gbuell on April 06, 2010, 06:59:58 PM
If you want to give us a further look, you can get us at iTunes or Amazon, search Margo May, the album is called Summerof. If you do get it, download this album art, the album art that's on the stores is messed up at the moment: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/878328/Summerof/cover.jpg (http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/878328/cover-2.jpg)


P.S. I'm the new, fairly inactive guy :) I'll be on the next NWR Newscast podcast, so you'll hear my lovely voice then (and you'll know why I didn't do any backup vocals on this album.)


edit: Thanks!
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: EasyCure on April 06, 2010, 07:35:50 PM
If you want to give us a further look, you can get us at iTunes or Amazon, search Margo May, the album is called Summerof. If you do get it, download this album art, the album art that's on the stores is messed up at the moment: http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/878328/cover-2.jpg


P.S. I'm the new, fairly inactive guy :) I'll be on the next NWR Newscast podcast, so you'll hear my lovely voice then (and you'll know why I didn't do any backup vocals on this album.)


edit: Thanks!

No, thank you! I'll definately check out the album!!

And let me apologize by saying; I don't listen to the podcast. Also, let me apologize in advance if in a week or so I see you post somewhere and repeat "who the hell is Grant" (i have a crappy memory according to the funhouse).

Edit: After seeing the artwork; If thats the vocalist on the cover, I feel that as your new biggest fan I should be hooked up with a phone number ;)
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: gbuell on April 06, 2010, 09:30:28 PM
Hmmm... buy 5 more copies and we'll talk.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Stogi on April 06, 2010, 10:15:55 PM
Dude that is pretty damn good! No seriously, I'm not usually into this type of music but it's really good. You guys know exactly what you want to sound like.

Reminds me of the Sealab 2021 theme
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: gbuell on April 06, 2010, 10:40:42 PM
What a coincidence, I just got season 1 of that on DVD.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: EasyCure on April 06, 2010, 10:48:02 PM
Hmmm... buy 5 more copies and we'll talk.

Before I drop the money, supply me with general location of said vocalist, THEN we'll talk. If she's more than 2 states away; no dice :P
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: gbuell on April 06, 2010, 10:57:09 PM
Judging by your profile, you've got quite a drive ahead of you. We live in Kansas City.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: EasyCure on April 06, 2010, 11:00:28 PM
Judging by your profile, you've got quite a drive ahead of you. We live in Kansas City.

NO SALE!

don't ya love it when Mods are active in the forums with the rest of us!?

spoiler 2: I've traveled further for less
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: D_Average on July 25, 2010, 05:11:36 PM
Anybody make any new music lately?  Sometimes, when I'm in a slump I learn a new cover.  Today I learned You Outta Know by Alanis Morrisette.  Its sounds fantastic the way I sing it, it really does.

Side note, still after all these years, I just can't picture Alanis and Dave Coulier in a movie theater together.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Sarail on July 25, 2010, 05:44:38 PM
I write a lot of country/pop-ish music all of the time.  I'll see about getting some links posted on here sometime.  That's if you guys don't care to give it a listen... I'll take any berating anyone wants to give out. :P

I like to throw in a little hint of bluegrass into my music, too.  Also, I'm planning on moving to Nashville later in the year to pursue a career in singing/songwriting, too.  Very excited about that.

Also, NWR_Grant, how did she submit her music to iTunes? I'd like to know how I could get my stuff on there, too.  Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: D_Average on July 25, 2010, 06:14:12 PM
As longs as its not modern country I'll definitely listen to it and give some feedback.  Post away!
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: gbuell on July 31, 2010, 09:06:18 AM
Rachtman, there are a few different ways to get your music on iTunes - I forget which one she used, but I know a very popular one is www.cdbaby.com
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: gbuell on August 30, 2010, 09:25:50 PM
I just made this in GarageBand. Pardon the levels. http://db.tt/IaAd5Nj
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: EasyCure on September 03, 2010, 08:51:35 PM
Damn, got my hopes up coming into this thread.. (not that Grants post wasn't a nice new piece of music to listen to, just not what I was expecting). Oh, I still plan on buying your album! Just gotta pay some bills first.

I was going through an old drive and found a couple of MIDI files that I transcribed for Power Tab Editor (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4OasKF2NsU&feature=related)* and thought i should post it em here. When I get my PC up and running again, I'll find a way to upload the files so you guys can hear and critique. These will be tunes from like 2003 when I was just starting out with music, so they won't be great, but its the only stuff I got until I get off my ass and get some new gear to start playing again.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Sarail on September 04, 2010, 01:34:10 AM
Well, here's a link to my newest song, I Still Love You. ©2010 Ryan Foster

Ryan Clayton - I Still Love You (http://pages.suddenlink.net/ryanclayton/site/Music/I_Still_Love_You.mp3)


As I said, I write a lot of country-ish stuff as that's what my voice is more situated for.  And honestly, I just love writing the stuff. I plan on submitting this song in several songwriting competitions coming up soon, as I placed in "Honorable Mention" status in a Billboard Top 100 Songwriting contest earlier in the year. :) This is a much stronger song than the previous ones I've entered.

Anyway, there ya go.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: ThePerm on September 05, 2010, 02:46:29 AM
yeah, i really don't like country music. However, i did notice my voice is quite suited for it and have thought of selling out.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Stogi on September 22, 2010, 05:53:10 PM
Wow it's been a minute! Here's a couple of jams you guys may like.

This first one I made on a whim. While messin' around, I made this cool noise (the first one you hear) and decided to run with it. It's definitely worthy of some ass shaking,

http://soundcloud.com/stogi/k-wise-production-oh-damn

This other one I hummed the chorus before making. I envision a chick singing the chorus all soft and lullaby like. This one I just want to smoke a bizzy to and chill out.

http://soundcloud.com/stogi/k-wise-productions-la-la-la

Check em both out and as always, let me know what you think!

-Unagi
Title: "Kill Like A Government" - Underground Hiphop - Support!
Post by: thirdwar on September 24, 2010, 01:12:54 PM
Whatsup everybody, I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this at, but I just released my first mixtape a few days ago, called "Take Your Sedation". I'm an underground revolutionist rapper from Chicago looking to spread my music around the world.


Check it out and drop a comment or press the "Like Button" on a video to let me know what you think.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YW--jRm9bXg


or go to http://www.youtube.com/OfficialThirdWar to check out the full mixtape.


Thanks a lot in advance!
-Third War
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Stogi on December 08, 2010, 09:09:37 PM
Thirdwar that's some pretty sick ****...I think I've heard the beat for 'Sedation' before.

Anyway, I got a new track:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7668017/K-Wise%20Productions%20-%20Time%20flies.mp3

It's one of the first tracks since having my new studio setup.

On second thought...I keep that DL link to myself unless asked nicely.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 08, 2010, 09:49:24 PM
@Thirdwar

Dayum. how did I miss that when it was just posted.... 3 months ago.


@Stogi
I feelin' it'. I was freestylin to it in my head and then the girl started singing. What was she saying BTW? I couldn't quite make it out.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: EasyCure on December 09, 2010, 10:44:39 PM
@Thirdwar:


I honestly wasn't expecting to like that as much as I did (not that big on the genre) but.. DAAyyyummm son! Showed my love on your youtube page. Best wishes with the career.

@Stogi

Oh Damn - Love it.
La La La - Different yet familiar. I dig it.
Time Flies - how does this song sound so epic and so chill at the same time? (the vocals remind me of "Sleepyhead" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zherMkcXdo) by Passion Pit, ever so slightly)

Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Stogi on December 09, 2010, 11:41:52 PM
"how does this song sound so epic and so chill at the same time?"

Give it up to her for that one. And BnM, I could tell you what she says but it wouldn't make anymore sense.

As always, I appreciate the kind words.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Stogi on December 29, 2010, 01:03:25 PM
Here's the first song I've finished off my OST. Imagine a plan being hatched and shown during this song.

http://soundcloud.com/stogi/k-wise-productions-jazz-montage

The sound quality is kinda terrible off soundcloud.

Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 29, 2010, 01:29:12 PM
Nice.
At first I was picturing some Old New Orleans Swing Dancing in a Night Club and then it switched to some Latin Salsa dancing at a Spanish Villa along the Coast line. Before it was over, the swing dancers and the Salsa Dancers were all at the Villa dancing together. IT was a nice visual.

What program are you using BTW?
I finally have a good computer, good sound setup and a good pair of headphones. I'd like to finally give beat making a shot. It's something I've been wanting to try for over a decade but my computer was **** back in the day.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Stogi on December 29, 2010, 01:34:18 PM
Haha, yeah you got it. I couldn't decide which way I wanted to go with it so I went with both.

Reason 4 atm. Though Reason 5 came out this year. I've been meaning to upgrade.

If you go with Reason 4. I suggest you download a **** ton of "refills". They are banks full of different sounds and samples.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Stogi on December 29, 2010, 06:32:18 PM
Sorry for the DP

http://soundcloud.com/stogi/k-wise-productions-classy

This is a return to my usual style made especially for the New Years.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 30, 2010, 10:49:32 PM
I need Reason for Dummies.

Seriously. Please link helpful tutorial videos and walkthrough guides for using this program. I've had the manual for years but never installed the program (got it from a friend) and therefore never read the manual. I am lost and there are too many options and things to manipulate. Help!




edit: I got it working, but I'm just playing with the drums for now.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: ThePerm on December 31, 2010, 06:22:32 PM
lol i was imagining the zelda fiary theme inserted into the middle of that one
Title: Re: Here's to Sudan
Post by: Stogi on January 25, 2011, 08:21:39 AM
http://soundcloud.com/stogi/k-wise-productions-farewell-to-sudan-heres-to-the-future

Here's to my home country of Sudan.

BnM - This is the first track I made off Reason 5. Loving it so far.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Stogi on March 07, 2011, 06:58:59 PM
Been in a hell of a good mood lately (probably cuz I'm going to Tanzania soon), so I made a song to signify how light I feel.

https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/K-Wise%20Productions/K-Wise%20Productions%20-%20Life%20Saver.mp3?w=346bcf4d

I sent it to my brothers and one of them replied with a whole Disney like video idea where all sorts of animals were gathered around a waterhole dancing there ass off. A fat happy looking gorilla started playing the concertina. And then a Tamon looking meerkat came through and started the playing the flute. Needless to say, I was laughing my ass off reading it.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 07, 2011, 07:12:56 PM
you gotta re-host it. we can't access your drop box.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Stogi on March 07, 2011, 07:21:15 PM
**** i forgot

Edit:

http://soundcloud.com/stogi/k-wise-productions-life-saver
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: BranDonk Kong on March 07, 2011, 07:30:19 PM
I wrote a song called "doodoola-dat-dat," there's no lyrics and it's just guitar and drums. It's pretty good though. The name comes from how the beginning of it goes with the guitar and drums..."doodoola dat-dat doodoolaa dat-dat doodoola dat."
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Stogi on March 07, 2011, 07:43:24 PM
Why don't you post it?
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: BranDonk Kong on March 07, 2011, 07:51:13 PM
Never been recorded.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Stogi on March 09, 2011, 07:53:04 PM
http://stogi.bandcamp.com/track/heavenly-bodies

A very Ryan Leslie type production. Probably my best in terms of drums. Enjoy!
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Stogi on July 13, 2011, 08:27:46 PM
Fuckin aye it's been a long time. I haven't been able to produce nothin for a while do to my labby being basically worthless. I'm finally back in it. Enjoy the first of many! And as always CRITICIZE ME.

http://soundcloud.com/stogi/k-wise-productions-chosen
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Ceric on July 13, 2011, 09:34:03 PM
I probably make the Dee-Da-Dee-Da string part that goes through a lot of the song softer.  Its more overpowering then I think it should be because its pretty obvious it's suppose to complement all the sounds that come in and out. 

I don't know what it is but the drum part feels off from the rest of it.  Sort of like everyone is dancing and its the one part that is standing a little off from the crowd and still dancing.  Its on the dance floor so its suppose to be their but, I can't put my finger on it.

When you bring in the organ sounding part it has what sounds like an electrical edge to it but, you have some people doing a more classic style vocal part.  You might want to try using a more traditional organ sound their with the power and smoothness that imbibes.

Their is a part that I'm pretty sure is the metal little chain striker thing that looks like a kitchen tool that used to hit drums and you seem to have added an effect to the chink sound where you hear the chink and then get this sort of Reverb crunch sound from it.  Can't say I'm to fond of that reverb and rather hear a clean chink I think.

:56 you have this neat part where you start to establish the Dum dee dum dum da da and it sounds like your using multiple synth wind instruments to play the part at different ranges.  I might do a few less.

The Thyremin(SP?) sounding part is cool.  Sort of wish it was brought out a little bit more.

I think 2:07 to about 3:11 is your cleanest segment.  A nice part.

The 3:40ish you have the main theme being played by some extemish bass notes but its hard to tell with how the overriding louder high notes are.  I actually missed it the first time and I think that is a neat concept. 

Overall I don't think this was a bad composition.  I enjoyed it.  I'm going to assume this was done with a Midi-Keyboard or elk?

Welp, you said to Criticize you and I'm pretty good at that.  I hope you find some of these commits useful and constructive.  These are from my 2 listens through.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Stogi on July 17, 2011, 02:06:36 PM
Hey thanks for the critique!

I haven't mastered it yet (meaning it won't sound the same out of every speaker), but I will keep your first point in mind when doing so.

Your second point about the drums may be because you are hearing too much treble out of them. Again, it may be because I haven't mastered it yet, but the Toms I use provide ample amount of 'pop' and bass. They do sound a bit weird out of headphones. I'm going to look into that.

The 'electrical edge' was kinda a toss up whether to leave it in or not. At first its part was much larger during the final part of the song, but it became too overwhelming. So I scratched it entirely but brought back a segment because I think it adds to the overall epicness of the piece. It's definitely out of place though.

The little metal chain striker...Are you talking about the snare? It's actually two snares put together. One of them you can hear by itself during the piano break down. The other is much louder and 'crunchier'. This is one point I can't use. I really like that snare. It gives the song a sense of importance and it matches the bass line perfectly.

You're right about the wind instruments. I'm playing a dominant octave and one bellow that is less dominant. It wasn't by choice, almost by necessity. If you were to hear only one octave by itself it would sound less intimidating.

Thyremin part? I'm not sure what you are referring to exactly. Are you talking about that 'wobble' noise behind the piano?

Thank you. I too think the piano part is squeaky clean. Some others said it might have gone on too long. What do you think? I think the length is appropriate considering how vastly different it is. I've tried cutting it in half and it sounded more like a tease than anything.

That bass line you hear at 3:40 is actually played throughout the song hahahaha, almost every 8 bars. Again, headphones aren't doing the song justice. I really should master it. When played on my stereo my house shakes...incredibly. That's how loud and low the bass gets. And it's my favorite part of the song other than the horns.

This one was done on my laptop with no other equipment.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Ceric on July 17, 2011, 07:06:44 PM
Hey thanks for the critique!

I haven't mastered it yet (meaning it won't sound the same out of every speaker), but I will keep your first point in mind when doing so.

Your second point about the drums may be because you are hearing too much treble out of them. Again, it may be because I haven't mastered it yet, but the Toms I use provide ample amount of 'pop' and bass. They do sound a bit weird out of headphones. I'm going to look into that.

The 'electrical edge' was kinda a toss up whether to leave it in or not. At first its part was much larger during the final part of the song, but it became too overwhelming. So I scratched it entirely but brought back a segment because I think it adds to the overall epicness of the piece. It's definitely out of place though.

The little metal chain striker...Are you talking about the snare? It's actually two snares put together. One of them you can hear by itself during the piano break down. The other is much louder and 'crunchier'. This is one point I can't use. I really like that snare. It gives the song a sense of importance and it matches the bass line perfectly.

You're right about the wind instruments. I'm playing a dominant octave and one bellow that is less dominant. It wasn't by choice, almost by necessity. If you were to hear only one octave by itself it would sound less intimidating.

Thyremin part? I'm not sure what you are referring to exactly. Are you talking about that 'wobble' noise behind the piano?

Thank you. I too think the piano part is squeaky clean. Some others said it might have gone on too long. What do you think? I think the length is appropriate considering how vastly different it is. I've tried cutting it in half and it sounded more like a tease than anything.

That bass line you hear at 3:40 is actually played throughout the song hahahaha, almost every 8 bars. Again, headphones aren't doing the song justice. I really should master it. When played on my stereo my house shakes...incredibly. That's how loud and low the bass gets. And it's my favorite part of the song other than the horns.

This one was done on my laptop with no other equipment.

It be the wobble noise then.

On the clean segment, I think it was fine length.  I definitely wouldn't cut it in half.   The most I go be to take maybe a quarter of it away if you like.

On the Snare piece then what I thought was a reverb effect was a second snare hit right after?  Still think the 1 keeps that part like in the piano segment but, *shrug* different tastes.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Stogi on July 17, 2011, 07:48:40 PM
I'll try it with one and then the other.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: ThePerm on October 19, 2011, 09:40:05 PM
i didnt know what thread to put this in, but I need some musical analysis from experts

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tT4avUqaeB0
I was going through Cartoon intros, and I was like this is clearly based on something, WTF is it. Then it came to me, a Bob Marley song, but which one. Then I listened to some and got

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtYbF99voEs
they sound different, but when you just whistle the melody they are almost identical

What do you think?

also i have an original song composition, and rather than put it on a song site, ill just attach it to a mpg and put it on youtube.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Stogi on October 19, 2011, 10:17:23 PM
LOL that's not Bob Marley. That's UB40. Their British....and they're white.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: ThePerm on October 19, 2011, 10:59:42 PM
See music expert, thats why we need you. British people, they're good at music.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Dasmos on October 20, 2011, 10:37:09 AM
Ahaha god this is funny
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: ThePerm on October 20, 2011, 08:24:37 PM
funny that the mermaid song has the same chord progression as Red Wine, or that I perpetuated an easy mistake? I mean I didn't post the Youtube video. Songs are mis-atributed all the time. All i knew is that the mermaid song sounded familiar, so i started whistling the tune, and then was like...this sounds so familiar. Then I heard the ghost of the song it was supposed to be without lyrics. Then thought...Reggae sounding. Reggae...Bob Marley, youtube search bob marley songs. Red Wine. Turns out Bob Marley didn't sing it. The original Reggae version was by Tony Tribe, and it was originally written by Neil Diamond. The Wikipedia article is funny because someone put in bold letters "bob marley DID NOT, record this song ever" 

This would never have happened if I had some NZT

also, UB40 did a version of this song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osfEXfBO1LI
which also sounds similar to the mermaid song

brain cloud, now i just need some expert to mix the 3 songs.

which also makes me think: Stephen Graham from Boardwalk empire
(http://starsmedia.ign.com/stars/image/object/143/14320300/stephen-graham_photoboxart_160w.jpg)

totally looks like Ali Campbell from UB40
(https://encrypted-tbn3.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQMC1blWNNe4oqqiH5BgSMPg-jH-scnt3W5cBbiypQ85echpIpVPg)
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Dasmos on October 20, 2011, 11:11:36 PM
It's funny that someone put up that song as a Bob Marley tune, looking at the related videos there seems to be "don't worry, be happy" attributed to marley also. It just rinds me of when I was going out with this girl and I had checked her iPod and she had all these songs tagged as the rolling stones, but when I played them they were just a collection of vaguely similar songs by other artists.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: ThePerm on October 21, 2011, 12:36:56 AM
Van Morrison Brown Eyed girl sounds like a Rolling Stone song, I was an early adopter of the mp3 format. I had a Diamond Rio, and 100s of songs on my HD just before there was a Napster or iTunes and mis-attribution has always been a problem. From an internet consumer stand point it sucks because than it becomes harder to figure out who made what song. Though if it were the year 2050, all this **** would be old music and all sound the same. I listen to a lot of swing music, and it would be interesting if someone were to do a period piece with more contemporary swing music, would they notice the anachronistic music?
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Stogi on October 28, 2011, 08:16:42 PM
Made a new track tonight for this halloween weekend. It was real quick so its not mastered or anything. Enjoy! And have a great weekend!

http://stogi.bandcamp.com/track/follow-me
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: King of Twitch on October 28, 2011, 08:21:28 PM
This is a really quality track.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Stogi on February 17, 2012, 04:15:26 PM
Made a beat yesterday to give to a DJ friend last night, so he could mix it in to his set.

Check it out.

http://stogi.bandcamp.com/track/k-wise-productions-paint

It's a simple beat with nothing going on that's overly complicated.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: jrlibrarian on February 24, 2012, 12:33:37 AM
I've got a band going, and we're rather close to putting out first album out. Happy Leviathan is the name. Sortof an alternative rock group, with a mixture of acoustic and electric guitar. I play drums.
We got a banjo player. That's right. Banjo.

Let me know what you all think! We have a few of the rough tracks up on YouTube.

YouTube.com/happyleviathan
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: ThePerm on May 02, 2012, 08:34:42 PM
could someone mix the mario theme song with Fun's "We are young"?
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Stogi on May 03, 2012, 06:19:00 PM
I can't even think of how that would sound, which isn't good.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Stogi on February 25, 2013, 10:48:34 AM
Wow.....it's been a minute!

Got a new song to show you. It's vastly different from anything else I've shown you (even those I've shared with privately).

It's a spin-off of a song my friend and I are developing. Our song, a mix of blues, Spanish flamenco, and reggae is going to be a beast, but in the mean time, I decided to take a piece of that delicious pie and venture into a new direction. And voila! A song that honestly reminds of Outkast was born.

http://stogi.bandcamp.com/track/creole

The trumpet solo needs work, but that's going to be scrapped once my friend tears it up on the sax!

As always, let me know what you think.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Pixelated Pixies on February 25, 2013, 12:31:57 PM
Here's a little thing I've been playing around with for a while on Guitar. Not much going on with it, but I think it's pretty catchy.
 
 http://chirb.it/B4Orn9
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Fatty The Hutt on February 25, 2013, 12:40:40 PM
Here's a little thing I've been playing around with for a while on Guitar. Not much going on with it, but I think it's pretty catchy.
 
 http://chirb.it/B4Orn9 (http://chirb.it/B4Orn9)
This is quite fantastic.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Pixelated Pixies on February 25, 2013, 01:25:33 PM
@Fatty_The_Hutt (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=12108)
 
That's very kind of you to say so, thanks.
 
I have a few other little pieces elsewhere on this computer. I might put more up at some point if I can find them.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Fatty The Hutt on February 25, 2013, 04:01:02 PM
Pix: I listened to your piece about 8 times this morning. Very impressive, I want to hear more.
Please and thank you.

Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Pixelated Pixies on February 25, 2013, 05:33:41 PM
Before I get any deeper with this stuff, I'm going to do that typical guitarist thing and say that these were rough recordings (yes, that typical guitarist thing  ::) ) made completely by myself using a Guitar Hero microphone and 'Audacity' for the sole purpose of explaining to potential band members the type of sound I was going for.
 
You'll have to take my word for it, but they sound much better when not all performed by one person with one acoustic guitar and a ukulele in their back garden, lol.
 
http://chirb.it/xqk2Iz (http://chirb.it/xqk2Iz)  - End
 
http://chirb.it/zskJte (http://chirb.it/zskJte)  -  7
 
http://chirb.it/ast4eG (http://chirb.it/ast4eG)  - The Irish Wake
 
http://chirb.it/pz6y34 (http://chirb.it/pz6y34) - Dander
 
http://chirb.it/1pMrpg (http://chirb.it/1pMrpg) - Empy Bar (I still haven't broke the back of this song, but I love the intro)
 
http://chirb.it/rscKkk (http://chirb.it/rscKkk) - Paper Scissors (this song was really designed around a harmonica piece which is absent in this version)
 
 
Some of these little fragments actually ended up becoming full fledged songs. I'm not really set up for recording though, but these should give you a sense of what I'm going for.
 
I was unware of this thread before today, so I'm off to check out everyone else's stuff.  ;D
 
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Pixelated Pixies on February 25, 2013, 06:30:24 PM
Ian Sane - Complicated Reminds me of Joy Division (not sure if that's what you were going for, but it totally worked for me). I really enjoyed the lyrics as well. The people who were asking you to put more energy in to your voice are I think missing the point. As a huge fan of joy Division, I love that style of vocals.

For some reason C'Mon reminded me of Tom Wait's 'Jockey Full of Bourbon'.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7LqgIefUNI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7LqgIefUNI)[/youtube]

The Bass in 'Get out' was pretty damn catchy.

Ode to Government was hilarious, lol.
 
 
Dasmos - I haven't listened to Metal in years but I thought 'The Replicant' was pretty good. I was a singular Grunger in a sea of Metal Heads growing up so I do have residual fondness of this type of music.

Stogi - 'Grinnin' was really chill. Loved it. It was exactly what I needed after 'The Replicant', lol.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Fatty The Hutt on February 25, 2013, 06:44:13 PM
@Pix: Thanks for the extra content. I am deeply impressed by your playing and at the layered musical structure of the pieces. You can just feel them wanting to be expanded into full songs, with more instruments, longer structure and lyrics, though I don't know what those would be. There is a great, moving quality to the little snippets. There is a sweetness to them but they also convey a sense of, I don't know, longing or loneliness. Really nice stuff. Time to stop farting around and make some full songs that people will undoubtedly pay you for. If they were on iTunes, I would pay for that sound, definitely. Keep up the good work.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: EasyCure on February 25, 2013, 10:10:50 PM
Here's a little thing I've been playing around with for a while on Guitar. Not much going on with it, but I think it's pretty catchy.
 
 http://chirb.it/B4Orn9

Great stuff, can't wait to check out the others.

Stogi is always good so I'll give it a go afterwards.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Stogi on February 26, 2013, 09:42:59 AM
It needs to be longer!
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: EasyCure on February 26, 2013, 10:19:04 PM
Agreed.. that's what she said, about both things
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Pixelated Pixies on February 27, 2013, 08:59:47 AM
Glad you liked that ditty, guys. Thanks for the responses.
 
There's another little piece that I've been constructing for about a month or so (similar in tone to the ones above), and if I have time this weekend I might try to record it. We'll see how it goes.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Phil on May 29, 2014, 02:19:20 AM
Hello! I've been using an antiquated music composition software to create rough drafts of themes for various games I work on or will work on in the future. I really don't know too much about music theory, but I'm using a book called "The Complete Idiot's Guide to Music Composition" as a baseline. I'd like to share some compositions

I'm doing in this topic over time.This is the first one I'd like to share:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/0zo9rc4qej9mw87/Grass_World.mid (https://www.dropbox.com/s/0zo9rc4qej9mw87/Grass_World.mid)
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Pixelated Pixies on May 29, 2014, 09:30:38 AM
@Phil

That's pretty spectacular man. I'm not sure what type of game it was composed for, but it seems to me that it would be right at home in a Kirby game. Also, the build up at the start strikes me as classic level 1 music. It sounds like you're leaving the village behind and going on an adventure, lol.

Nice work.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Phil on May 29, 2014, 06:11:41 PM
Thanks so much! Yes, I got the Kirby vibe from it too when I was in the middle of composing it!

Here's completed stuff for my game, Super Push Adventure. I composed the stuff on my poopy program, and then a contributor remade them in a better program.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_dZojdua3M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBiMphopxhs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnUaCaK6Bck
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6BoFYlHyO8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nr2cZAhKckE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_XXAiQcUgQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbQtPNkWCIs

:)
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: BranDonk Kong on May 29, 2014, 07:02:17 PM
You really might want to submit that to a game developer, I'm sure you could find a job in the field if you wanted one.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Phil on May 30, 2014, 09:13:42 AM
Hi there Brandogg! Thanks a lot for the kind words and encouragement!

I'm currently on my way to getting a degree in Interactive Digital Media, with the intent of getting into game design. While I loathe coding, I like level design, scenario design, sprite work and music composition, despite not being the best at the latter two.

Words like yours and Pix's do a world of good, so thank you both!
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Stogi on July 26, 2014, 06:51:02 PM
BACK WITH A NEW ONE (It's quite old)

https://soundcloud.com/stogi/heavenly-bodies

Never played bass till about a month before I made this song.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Khushrenada on July 28, 2014, 04:15:46 PM
Remember animecyberrat?

Well, he sent me this message:

"Hey there, just wanted to share a link with you to pass along to anyone you think might be interested. Its my latest CD, a work of pure hip-hop. http://thespiderslair.com/?p=128

I wanted to share it with a few people here, especially theperm if you can send him the link or create a post it would be very much appreciated. If you could maybe just post the link to the general chat forum maybe for me? Anyways stay cool and if you could share this link with the group, I would ask theperm he and I were friends from before but he doesn't appear to be active much anymore. Its just a post to my blog but the tracks are all available for free for anyone who wants to listen."

He really seems to want ThePerm to listen to his stuff.

And that is that.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: King of Twitch on August 04, 2014, 03:29:42 PM
I like the intro track.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: BranDonk Kong on August 04, 2014, 03:35:19 PM
He needs to make a video so he can go on Tosh.0.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Phil on August 04, 2014, 04:43:34 PM
Hey all. Here's a new song I composed for the last area of my soon-to-be-released-in-the-not-so-distant-future game.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiUaceyNetc
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: marvel_moviefan_2012 on August 04, 2014, 05:42:40 PM
I do house/techno music but I am taking a break right now. I uploaded a bunch of songs to my webspace a few years ago for school but I lost that when they kicked me out. I might upload them again on my own blog but not sure if I will or not. I was signed up to take piano lessons but that was tied into the school I got kicked out of.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Phil on December 05, 2014, 08:03:06 PM
Warning: this topic has not been posted in for at least 120 days
Warning 2: Phil is bumping this bad boy!


I don't have a new game project yet, but it's not stopping me from trying out some ideas. For instance, this theme with a very tentative title is almost complete. It's meant to be a song for a town with cherry blossoms or maybe a mountainside trek even.


http://www.mediafire.com/download/ybt8g07ku5f5ocz/Asian+Garden.mid
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: marvel_moviefan_2012 on December 06, 2014, 09:08:02 PM
Just wanted to share this for those who like rock music. I work with one of the members of this band so wanted to share a link to their album for those who want to check out some actual real music instead of my usual crap.

http://rattlesnakeboys.bandcamp.com/

If you just want to check out their music I know they are on Spotify too.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Stogi on December 11, 2014, 09:50:05 PM
Phil, your song got heavy at the 1:30 mark. I like it man. Good job!

I'd like to share a song from my unreleased ep called 2 minutes (where every song is roughly 2 minutes long, and each track is simply numbered). Here is track 7.

https://stogi.bandcamp.com/track/7

Criticism is always welcome, so let me know what you think!
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Nile Boogie Returns on December 13, 2014, 09:46:20 PM
might as well contribute to the creation thing!






▶ Get It Lo (Let It Go remix) by Nile Hardin (https://soundcloud.com/nile-hardin/get-it-lo-let-it-go-remix)


Seemed like to do.





Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: marvel_moviefan_2012 on January 31, 2015, 11:42:05 PM
http://thespiderslair.com/?p=521


My first official music video. Its not my best song, its not my best work, but its what it is.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: BranDonk Kong on February 01, 2015, 12:49:50 AM
It's really hard to make out any words, the vocals are too low. You might want to remix (not as in "a remix") the song or just be louder with your voice.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: marvel_moviefan_2012 on February 01, 2015, 08:40:47 AM
yeah I noticed that with my recordings. I can't find the back up of the vocal recordings to fix it, I saved them somewhere and forget where.
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Nile Boogie Returns on February 01, 2015, 09:28:31 AM
Beat is solid but yeah I can't hear anything.




The Caesar Of Winter (https://soundcloud.com/nile-hardin/the-caesar-of-winter)




From my next project
Title: Re: Original song compositions
Post by: Phil on June 08, 2015, 01:48:23 PM
Hey all. Sorry for bumping up an old topic, but I have my first composition for my new game I'm working on:

http://www.mediafire.com/listen/x69igz5yx968occ/The_Grass_Is_Always_Greener.wav