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Re: Monado Beginning of The World
« Reply #25 on: June 08, 2009, 01:27:35 PM »
This game doesn't look as good as Crystal Bearers, but it has a certain charm. I especially like the locals.
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Re: Monado Beginning of The World
« Reply #26 on: June 08, 2009, 01:29:56 PM »
But the engine is what will allow for a higher poly count, better textures & more effects while maintaining a smooth frame rate of 60 frames per sec.

And like I said, I figured the game was still early by looking at the pics, but if they are still using the engine from BK on GC then its no wonder their game looks like a GC game.

The engine may reduce the overhead but the bigger limiter is the hardware. A GC engine on the Wii will still scale to the Wii's increased power.

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Re: Monado Beginning of The World
« Reply #27 on: June 08, 2009, 01:53:41 PM »
but its not optimized to take advantage of the increase in power.
I really don't want to get too deep into an engine discussion though.

My point was that the game looks like a GC game, and the fact that you are owned by the console manufacturer, you should have access to the latest and most advanced tools and internally produced engines to work with. Its unacceptable as a 1st party dev to use a last gen engine this late into the game on new gen hardware when you have so much new gen tech at your disposal.

The game is early enough to not really be mentioned by Nintendo, so maybe they are just using last gen placeholder assets while they work on gameplay. But just looking at screenshots is not leaving the best of impressions.

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Re: Monado Beginning of The World
« Reply #28 on: June 08, 2009, 01:58:35 PM »
Did it really look that bad?

I thought it looked pretty good.
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Re: Monado Beginning of The World
« Reply #29 on: June 08, 2009, 02:11:09 PM »
Its not that its really ugly, but it looks more like a 3rd party effort in some screens then a 1st party effort.
Just look at the pic with the fruit, it doens't look like a whole lot of effort has gone into making that look like a Wii game and not a GC game.
Even though the game is still early and it does look pretty good in motion, this is their first game since full aquisition and its time for them to step up and WOW us with whatever game they are putting out, especially since its a new IP.

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Re: Monado Beginning of The World
« Reply #30 on: June 08, 2009, 02:15:05 PM »
Ya, the game is really early, and that's why it didn't bother me. Hell there were clipping issues everywhere; particle effects looked terrible; and the overall polygon count and texture resolution was low, but you know what? The art direction looked nice, the animation was solid, and the landscapes looked sprawling and huge.

So while I understand what your saying, I think we should hold off from the "graphix sux" comments.
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Re: Monado Beginning of The World
« Reply #31 on: June 08, 2009, 02:19:29 PM »
And like I said, I figured the game was still early by looking at the pics, but if they are still using the engine from BK on GC then its no wonder their game looks like a GC game.

There's no way that's the Baten Kaitos engine, either from the original or Origins.  The Baten Kaitos engine used pre-rendered FMV backgrounds and was only actually 3D in the quasi turn-based battle sequences (which still didn't allow player movement).  This game is obviously full 3D in towns; exploring; and battles with full player interaction in all modes.  It looks more like the Skies of Arcadia 3D engine combined with the FF 12 battle system, which would be a whole new engine from stuff they'd done before.  Like it or not, this engine is likely to stay.  As for the graphics...well, one can hope that they'll improve, though they're still far from bad right now.
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Re: Monado Beginning of The World
« Reply #32 on: June 08, 2009, 02:27:26 PM »
Nowhere did I say the grafix sux, I just said that for someone that has access to all the tricks the system can do and access to program down to the metal, this game doesn't seem to be taking full advantage of the systems hardware and looks more like a GC game than a Wii game. More of a mid-budget 3rd party effort than a high-budget 1st party effort.

I also implied that I was reserving judgment since the game does appear to be early, but the screenshots are not making the best 1st impression for a game Nintendo showed off at E3 when they have a policy of "don't show it till its ready".

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Re: Monado Beginning of The World
« Reply #33 on: June 08, 2009, 02:30:34 PM »
It honestly looks like Crystal Bearers in terms of graphics (although Crystal Bearers is more polished).
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Re: Monado Beginning of The World
« Reply #34 on: August 17, 2009, 12:33:40 PM »
Did it really look that bad?

I thought it looked pretty good.

Even tho the press trailers are moderately high quality, the game still looked like ass.
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Re: Monado Beginning of The World
« Reply #35 on: January 29, 2010, 11:14:44 AM »
A bit of an update here: apparently, the game has a new name: "Xenoblade" along with a new teaser website.

Moderators, if you would be so kind as to update the topic title.
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Re: Monado Beginning of The World
« Reply #36 on: January 29, 2010, 11:56:05 AM »
Let me guess, the sword is some kind of key and is related to some giant tree.
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Re: Monado Beginning of The World
« Reply #37 on: January 29, 2010, 11:57:40 AM »
Let me guess, the sword is some kind of key and is related to some giant tree.

Ugh, I hope we don't end up seeing the 1 billionth appearance of Yggdrasil in a video game.
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Re: Monado Beginning of The World
« Reply #38 on: January 29, 2010, 01:29:00 PM »
I wouldn't change the name of the thread until we know what the non Japanese name is.

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Re: Monado Beginning of The World
« Reply #39 on: January 29, 2010, 01:35:45 PM »
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Re: Monado Beginning of The World
« Reply #40 on: January 29, 2010, 02:17:33 PM »
I wouldn't change the name of the thread until we know what the non Japanese name is.

Perhaps that's wise.  I'm seeing conflicting reports on various websites whether the North American name will change to Xenoblades or if it'll stay Monado.  They'd be wise to go with the new name (especially if the game actually ends up linking to the Xenosaga games, but I doubt it), but whatever.
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Re: Monado Beginning of The World
« Reply #41 on: January 29, 2010, 02:31:20 PM »
But if you really wanted a topic title change, you could've just asked the topic creator. He is still around, and most of the mods admit to not visiting this part of the forum very often, so you would have better luck asking Maxi himself.

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Re: Monado Beginning of The World
« Reply #42 on: January 29, 2010, 03:08:51 PM »
Looks like they changed direction quite a bit. Of course, they're also not showing much here.

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Re: Monado Beginning of The World
« Reply #43 on: January 29, 2010, 03:11:12 PM »
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Re: Monado Beginning of The World
« Reply #44 on: January 29, 2010, 03:16:26 PM »
Looks fun can't wait to see how the graphics have improved.
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Re: Monado Beginning of The World
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Re: Monondo:Begining of the World
« Reply #46 on: January 29, 2010, 05:59:53 PM »
Just woke up a little while ago. I'll update the first post in a min.
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« Reply #47 on: January 29, 2010, 06:36:51 PM »
There I updated it. I am going to keep the name of the thread the same. If we get a North American announcement I'll change the topic title and add that first picture that you linked to.
I really need to get my CPU fixed.Takes to long to update the first post

Anyway the game looks to of improved alot visually.
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Re: Monondo:Begining of the World
« Reply #48 on: January 29, 2010, 07:20:48 PM »
I'm pretty sure the name will change for the US since Xenoblade will sound attached to XenoSaga (and it looks like it might be) and that will generate hype all on it's own.

I'm just really hoping Nintendo puts the AAA budget behind squeezing FF like visuals out of this title and TLS. They both need to succeed and set  the stage not just for DQX, but for sequels of their own.

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Re: Monondo:Begining of the World
« Reply #49 on: January 29, 2010, 07:44:25 PM »
Agreed BlackNMild.

There has been a few RPGs for the Wii that standout as good.

I'm a bit unfamiliar with the Xenosaga series. Anybody here play those games?
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