Topic: E3 2017: REGGIE GOES BIG

[King of Twitch]

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...we're gonna have a big E3 this year. We're going to be showcasing a variety of games

 


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[Shaymin]

I really hope Nintendo has an E3 that's so good, it kills the show forever.

Like 2006, but permanent.

[Evan_B]

This just in: Reggie is a PR juggernaut who can say anything he wants, it doesn't mean it's true.

[Soren]

Reggie also said we'd know more about Switch VC by launch and guess what happened. He's utterly dependent of what happens at NCL.

[Khushrenada]

Interesting that he made sure to mention new titles for 3DS at E3 as well. That system still has legs!

Curious about the name dropping of Animal Crossing. He brought up Legend of Zelda as one type of game experience but why mention Animal Crossing at this point? The only upcoming Animal Crossing news will be its potential mobile game in whatever form that takes. Is Nintendo planning an Animal Crossing Switch release so it is on his mind?

[Evan_B]

Open-world Animal Crossing with weapon degradation. Then maybe I'd get into the series.

[Oedo]

I suppose it comes down to what you consider a "big" E3, but I was pleased with Nintendo's E3 last year and Reggie's comments here don't seem that unreasonable. I go back and forth on whether Nintendo is going to come to the show with a slate of huge, new announcements, but showcasing a variety of exciting games and having a great showing that way? Yeah, I can believe that. These are the Switch games Nintendo has announced which should have a presence at the show this year:

Splatoon 2
Super Mario Odyssey
Xenoblade Chronicles 2
Fire Emblem Switch
Fire Emblem Warriors
The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild (Expansion Pass)

Even if there are literally no new announcements, I'm pretty stoked just to learn a lot more about these games. With the exception of maybe Fire Emblem Warriors, all of those are huge releases and figure to be great games. And, in reality, there will almost certainly be new announcements as well.

[Order.RSS]

I mean, if they want to totally kill it and "win the show" they should drop several big title announcements in my opinion. I agree with Oedo that those titles should all be there, but then the narrative will still be "Nintendo shows not much news, Switch line up remains sparse, yeah we knew about all of these already" etc.

So here's my completely unreasonable line-up I would want to title drop if I was Nintendo's PR and had somehow gotten all these very unlikely projects in near-complete stages without anyone noticing until now:

Bayonetta 3, just to really rub it in once more. Show off those perfect 10 scores for the previous one. Oh yeah and it comes with free copies of the first two games too, so no "I didn't get a Wii U so I can't be up to date on the story" excuses either.

Metroid. A big one. Dual release with a side-scroller on 3DS set after Fusion. Flashy, no Federation storyline, no voice acting. Call it Metroid Andromeda just to stir up ****. It could be sidescrolling, something different, or Prime 4 but...

New Retro Studios project. Preferably a unique, new IP with Splatoon-esque immediate broad appeal. If they're doing Prime 4, then it should just be them dropping 2 games in 2018 like it ain't nothing.

Beyond Good & Evil 2. Platform exclusive. And we're not Kickstarting it it *side-eye Shenmue which inevitably got hype during the Sony conference* oh and also Jade will be in Smash 5 which we're teasing this show but won't be out for another year or two.

Of course none of these will happen and I'm being a totally entitled fanboy now. But it'd be great marketing and it's just fun to daydream haha.

[NWR_insanolord]

There's also Pikmin 4, which we already know exists. That's not as much of a heavy hitter, but it'll be there and be a nice complement to the bigger announcements.

[Order.RSS]

There's also Pikmin 4, which we already know exists. That's not as much of a heavy hitter, but it'll be there and be a nice complement to the bigger announcements.

Oh yeah good point!!! Would that be a 2018 release you think? Do you think things like a new Monster Hunter and/or Animal Crossing could also be on the horizon? Those would go over very well I imagine and if there's some sort of connectivity between the mobile Animal Crossing and a new game on 3DS or Switch the mobile title could hopefully spur on some sort of Pokemon Go effect.

[nickmitch]

I'm wondering if Smash 4 Switch will be a sequel or an up-port.  The rumor was that we'd get a port right?  I'd certainly like a sequel though, but with Sakurai, that could take years.  A port with a handful of new characters would be plenty (at the right price).

[King of Twitch]

Open-world Animal Crossing with weapon degradation. Then maybe I'd get into the series.

I was hoping for an AC/Cubivore crossover.

[ThePerm]

Open-world Animal Crossing with weapon degradation. Then maybe I'd get into the series.

I was hoping for an AC/Cubivore crossover.

I remember during the n64 era when news leaked out about Cubivore and Animal Crossing I used to confuse the two. This is because Cubivore's Japanese name is Dobutsu Bancho or Animal Leader and Animal Crossing was Dobutsu no Mori or Animal Forrest.

[NWR_insanolord]

There's also Pikmin 4, which we already know exists. That's not as much of a heavy hitter, but it'll be there and be a nice complement to the bigger announcements.

Oh yeah good point!!! Would that be a 2018 release you think?

Since what we've heard indicates it's basically done, I wouldn't be surprised to see it come out this year.

[rlse9]

Seems to me that he's emphasizing the variety of games part.  That can only mean one thing:


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[Lemonade]

The Switch Japan event back in January makes me hope they will have an actual show for E3 again this year. Or at least have a Direct like previous years. As much as I like Treehouse Live, its just not the same.

I also want a return of the World Championship. The one they did a few years ago was great.

[Oedo]

I'm wondering if Smash 4 Switch will be a sequel or an up-port.  The rumor was that we'd get a port right?  I'd certainly like a sequel though, but with Sakurai, that could take years.  A port with a handful of new characters would be plenty (at the right price).

I think Smash 4 Switch still makes a lot of sense. There's a gap in Nintendo's first-party lineup between Splatoon 2 and Super Mario Odyssey which it could fill (though the aforementioned Pikmin 4 also seems like a great candidate for that), and in some ways I think it's an easier sell for Wii U owners than Mario Kart 8 Deluxe. I doubt most people bought the majority of the DLC for Smash 4 Wii U, given how expensive it was, and if they include a handful of new characters and stages on top of it, it's easier to justify double dipping on that game (at least for me).

[Khushrenada]

Open-world Animal Crossing with weapon degradation. Then maybe I'd get into the series.

Get ready, Animal Crossing citizens. Evan_B is coming to town....

[ThePerm]

Some things I'd like to see at e3

Eternal Darkness (Nintendo re-registered the trademark, either it's just going to the e-shop or they are making a new one) A great idea would be to show off Resident Evil 7 and Fatal Frame off at the same time to roll the ball for survival horror.

Metroid
Shadows of the Eternals(resurfacing still a separate game with a publisher)
Smash Bros (but I want Smash Bros to make a drastic change, the type of change fanboys would be divided about, where some are pissed and some are excited) The ideal situation is the announce a port of the wii u 3ds one, and make another game that is totally new.
Pikmin
Pokémon
Donkey Kong(i'd like to see a new 3d DK)

Obviously I want to see new franchises or even long forgotten franchises.
One Thing Nintendo should do is a Coup in its e-shop. Nintendo should stop dripping old games and flood them. Just because their available doesn't mean they need to be on the front page.If it wants to feature games and do sales thats the way to do it. Bundles are awesome too. Thats how I bought most of the Resident Evil games on the Playstation Store. I filled up my hard drive... i need to buy a new hard drive now so i can buy more games.. see how that works.

[Khushrenada]

Smash Bros (but I want Smash Bros to make a drastic change, the type of change fanboys would be divided about, where some are pissed and some are excited) The ideal situation is the announce a port of the wii u 3ds one, and make another game that is totally new.

I was recently thinking the same thing. When I'm not playing BotW, I've been sometimes playing a little bit of Smash 3DS to finish unlocking/acquiring all the custom moves for the fighters. Down to 5 fighters left. With the success of BotW and how it has shaken up the formula a bit, I'd love to see Smash Bros. get shaken up now. It was a unique kind of fighter in trying to knock opponents off the stage but now it has become a bit old hat. Is there a new way to fight that could be thought up of with these characters? If there was a franchise I'd most like to see Nintendo take a new chance and direction on, I think Smash Bros. would be my number 1 choice at the moment.

Donkey Kong(i'd like to see a new 3d DK)

Yeah, it's a bit of shame we've only seen one 3D iteration of Donkey Kong. I've always been a fan of DK64 even though others are put off by its collectathon. In some ways, this is a franchise that's still quite malleable in the 3D realm because of how little has been done in that space. A lot of potential here.

[NWR_insanolord]

I like the idea somebody on these forums came up with for a Donkey Kong game modeled on the climbing and environmental platforming in the Uncharted franchise. It'd fit his character and, while part of an existing IP, be something Nintendo's never done before.

[GoldenPhoenix]

I'll be happy if they announce a real Animal Crossing game for Switch, one that shakes up the formula a bit. Maybe an MMO Animal Crossing? That could be interesting.

[NWR_insanolord]

That'd be nice. I'm still hooked on New Leaf, my second time through, but it's about time we got a real successor. It's a series that I really think is better suited to a handheld, and I think would benefit from the Switch's hybrid nature.

[GoldenPhoenix]

That'd be nice. I'm still hooked on New Leaf, my second time through, but it's about time we got a real successor. It's a series that I really think is better suited to a handheld, and I think would benefit from the Switch's hybrid nature.

That is true, I also hope they make decent use of Amiibos. Thanks to Breath of the Wild I went on an Amiibo splurge when previous to the game I only had Smash Bros. Zelda, Samus and the Splatoon girl. Walmart slashing the prices on Amiibos didn't help either and I ended up with most of the AC amiibos, all the BOTW Amiibos, Smash Bros Link, 8 Bit Link, Ganondorf, and various other random Mario characters like Daisy, Rosalina, Waluigi and 8 bit Mario.

[Spak-Spang]

I would think giving Smash another attack button and take the Flicking Smash action out of the game.  Then design the game with basic multiplayer aspect we already know and love.

Then I would make the adventure mode play like TMNT beat'em up with more depth and combos.

[Spak-Spang]

Animal Crossing in a giant world would be awesome one which once you have your friends code your little town or village is plopped onto a big Breath of the Wild sized Map. 

[Oedo]

I think it'd be cool if they centered the next original Smash Bros. entry around Sakurai's own take on the tagging mechanic we see in some fighting games (they could literally call it... "Smash Bros. Switch"). It would allow them to keep the core mechanics of the series intact, at least in some fashion, but it might also give Sakurai room to add enough new mechanics and gameplay changes that it feels like a truly significant change to the way Smash Bros. is played. It would also fall in line with the frenetic, ridiculous action the series is known for. Bring some Project X Zone staffers on board to write the dialogue (or, better yet, make a full tactical RPG/Smash Bros. crossover story mode) for maximum random crazy bullshit.

And, yeah, I'd also like to see the next Animal Crossing entry move towards a bigger town. I enjoyed the core mechanics of New Leaf well enough, but the size of the town kind of took me out of the game. I don't think it has to be gigantic, as that might take some of the sense of community out of it, but I would like to see it expanded.

[ThePerm]

I like the idea somebody on these forums came up with for a Donkey Kong game modeled on the climbing and environmental platforming in the Uncharted franchise. It'd fit his character and, while part of an existing IP, be something Nintendo's never done before.

That was me.

The other thing about Donkey Kong is he isn't human. He is an ape. He has the strength of 9 men. He's going to be able to do tasks that Drake or Tomb Raider can't do.

[Mop it up]

And, yeah, I'd also like to see the next Animal Crossing entry move towards a bigger town.

One thing I think would help is if most of the shops and stuff weren't separated off into their own section. That makes things feel smaller to me. But yeah, the village size is definitely starting to feel cramped, especially with everything you were able to place into a village in New Leaf.

[ThePerm]

For Smash Bros I think A big change up would be making the series 3D. PowerStone was a whole lot like Smash Bros when it came out. They could call it Smash Bros Battle Arena. As I said in the previous post, they should keep old hat Smash Bros around just to appease fans and because it's a perfected type game that's most significant change is roster switchups..  It would be kind of interesting to play a more death match style Smash bros game. Where characters actually play like they do in their respective game. The Switch makes this possible because of its form factor. Of course every character would need to jump. I imagine arenas large enough for people to hide. It'd be kind of like Running man or hunger games with Nintendo characters.

[BeautifulShy]

I guess I can throw out my thoughts on expectations on E3 this year. 

Hmm I would like if Nintendo would keep supporting the 2DS/3DS et al along with the Switch obviously. Keep the indie titles coming for the 3DS line of handhelds.

As for the Switch I don't have much expectations because I don't have one yet but it would be nice to see a Animal Crossing game for the Switch. It is pretty much a perfect fit for the system. It has the local play when you take the system on the go for others and it has the handheld mode for when you want to just work on your town and make your town how you would like.

I am kinda thinking that Monster Hunter Generations 2/ Cross Cross would be a nice fit. Generations is on the 3DS so something along the lines of 3U could happen with data transfer.  Actually I think that is already a thing in Cross Cross so I guess just bring over the game to the West and I would be fine.   

As for what I am excited for that has already been announced Super Mario Odyssey is pretty exciting for me. Looking forward to all the different indie games as well.

[NWR_insanolord]

I think Nintendo will continue to support the 3DS, but you won't know it from the way they handle E3. 3DS has generally been an afterthought in their E3 booths, and I expect it to have even less of a presence this year. There will be 3DS stuff in the press kit, and probably some demos stuck in a corner somewhere, but I wouldn't expect any mention of it in their main presentation at the show, whether that's a Nintendo Direct or they return to a live press conference.

[Evan_B]

I'm holding off on my E3 predictions until the site pool goes up, but I will say that they're as pessimistic.

[Mop it up]

What are some of Nintendo's developers who haven't released a game recently? That might give us an idea of what we might see. The main one I can think of is Retro, so maybe we'll see a game from them. If Pikmin 4 is a thing then we'll probably see that as well.

Speaking of Pikmin, is that 2D one on the 3DS still coming out?

[Agent-X-]

I'll put myself out there with an outlier expectation. I'm usually one to expect something totally nonsensical.


How about Nintendo release an honest-to-god modern online thing. Why is it when I go to the Nintendo eShop, Just Dance 2017 is no where to be found??? I'd expect to see it visible on page 1. Why not show them some love??


The shop needs help even if it only has a limited selection of titles. With what's there, I want more demoes. I need to see some sort of slideshow of titles that are supposed to be interesting even if I'm not really interested. I want to feel like the shop is the lively place to go when I'm craving something but not sure what. The current default page of "Recent" only really accomplishes reminding me that NeoGeo is like half of the current catalog... and then the Coming Soon page with only 4 titles reminds me not to make any digital purchases with the Switch in case I decide to cash in on this thing!


Nintendo could do a better job of presenting this thing as a social hub for gamers. I think I get that they're not trying to do this, but it's what they need to do. The Switch kinda feels like it should do this (naturally) as a device meant to be played at home and on the go. I'm just not sure why the most basic features are totally absent from this thing. Why can't I message my friends on there? Why is there no interaction? When I can see them playing a game, shouldn't I expect that I can send them an invite to turn it into a co-op experience??


Forgive me if I seem a little jaded and let down, BUT understand where I'm coming from. I'm only one developer and I could have built a vastly superior eShop to what I see on here. It would have taken me just one month to do it.


So when we talk about Nintendo having a big E3 and what software could be announced, I'm not even thinking about games. I'm thinking about an OS overhaul with brand new eShop and online community/friend stuff.


EDIT: I just noticed that their online app with lobby and party chat is not even due out until the Fall. Like, we won't even get a chance to try it out without having to pay a subscription fee...

[ThePerm]

I can't give Nintendo too much **** for the Wii U's online shop. I think it holds up against the Playstation shop pretty well. I would say the Playstation shop is more flexible, but the Nintendo shop is easier to navigate.

Nintendo really doesn't understand the gold mine of content they sit on. Nintendo has the longest timeline of classic gaming, Nintendo has 7 generations while Sony has 4. Which is starting to not be as big of a difference.
Nintendo should really have a couple hundred games from its own past systems each already out and ready to purchase.

[Oedo]

EDIT: I just noticed that their online app with lobby and party chat is not even due out until the Fall. Like, we won't even get a chance to try it out without having to pay a subscription fee...

According to Nintendo's site, we will get to try out a limited version of the app this summer before the full paid online service launches in the fall.

[Soren]

EDIT: I just noticed that their online app with lobby and party chat is not even due out until the Fall. Like, we won't even get a chance to try it out without having to pay a subscription fee...

According to Nintendo's site, we will get to try out a limited version of the app this summer before the full paid online service launches in the fall.

Which is a big mistake really. There needs to be a way to test drive the features before plunking down cash for it. Splatoon 2 is a game which greatly benefits from possible team chat.

[Oedo]

Well, I'm even more hyped for E3 after the last Nintendo Direct. I think most people, including myself, expected Splatoon 2 in mid-August. A July 21 release date puts a pretty significant gap between Splatoon 2 and Super Mario Odyssey with not much currently announced first-party content to fill that space. The only games with a straight "2017" release date right now are Fire Emblem Warriors and Xenoblade Chronicles 2, and while mainline Fire Emblem has undoubtedly become a huge series for Nintendo in the West, I can't see Fire Emblem Warriors being the only game they release between the end of July and November. Nintendo could use that period to launch Virtual Console, but this at least lends more plausibility to the optimistic view that they have one or two aces left up their sleeve for this year.

[nickmitch]

That will (hopefully) be when we finally get the word on the app, so I think I'm most looking forward to that.

[Stratos]

Nintendo could use that period to launch Virtual Console, but this at least lends more plausibility to the optimistic view that they have one or two aces left up their sleeve for this year.

We saw the announcement of the final Smash amiibo, and I think that the Summer release of them is no coincidence. I think there will be two big game reveals and one of them is going to be an enhanced Smash port to go along with those amiibo.

[Adrock]

I originally thought that, but I don't believe Nintendo will release Splatoon 2 and a Super Smash Bros. port so close to each other. Nintendo may want to do a 20th Anniversary thing for Super Smash Bros. though 2019 would be a long time to be without the series. Unless Nintendo fills in the late summer release gap, I think early to mid September 2017 may be a good time. If not, early 2018.

[Stratos]

Whether it is Summer or later, I think we'll see Smash before the end of the year. It could be a great complimentary title to release with Mario Odyssey this Fall.

[Luigi Dude]

I think Smash Bros hitting in 2017 depends on just how much new content they're adding.  Unlike Mario Kart even adding a few new characters is a much bigger undertaking in something like Smash Bros.  If it's just all the content of the 3DS and Wii U versions combined with all the DLC and including Ice Climbers, Wolf and the Inklings as an added bonus then yeah a 2017 is pretty doable. 

If Nintendo and Sakurai decided to go crazy and add a dozen new characters though and over 20 new stages, maybe even a single player adventure mode again, then I'd imagine them making this one of their big early 2018 games.  I mean this is Sakurai we're talking about.  It could have started as an enhanced port like Mario Kart but then he got some idea's and it become a sequel like Splatoon 2 now.

Either way, we should find out at E3.

[Adrock]

Besides balancing, Namco Bandai finished development over a year ago. That's plenty of time to add a bunch of characters and stages though, managing my expectations, I'm expecting four additional characters max. Even if there were more, I feel like they would be ready to go by Q3 or Q4.

Nintendo's problem is timing the release of Super Smash Bros. which is a much better problem to have than not having anything to release. I think it's in Nintendo's best interest to spread out releasing the ports (enhanced or otherwise) just so the lineup doesn't just look like a Wii U graveyard.

[Agent-X-]

I was thinking similarly regarding Smash Bros this year. I know at least a few people already pounding their tables demanding it be released. But now I actually wonder if ARMS might be the fighting game Nintendo wants to focus on this year (thinking DLC and online events).


I think we all know that Nintendo has a gap to fill, and I'm just not certain they will dip into their port collection for Smash Bros just yet. Would be great to have it. I know I miss it already. Just think that Nintendo has x amount of blockbuster Wii U ports they can enhance and hype, grouping that one close with ARMS might cannibalize audience a bit.

[Agent-X-]

We ought to put together a checklist for E3 of what Nintendo needs to do for it to qualify as going BIG.


My checklist is looking like this.

• Dark Souls game for Switch
• Borderlands game for Switch
• Call of Duty on Switch
• Overwatch (Switch)
• Rocket League (Switch)
• Grand Theft Auto 5 on Switch

Obviously, some of these maybe a very long shot considering politics involved, but I am personally hoping for a Borderlands game. I think it very well could happen, and I think Nintendo might be going to help it happen. I think Dark Souls is a slam dunk and basically is just waiting to be announced--on this we will see.


What do others have for a checklist for E3?

[BranDonk Kong]

Here's my prediction: all of those games will be announced at E3. ALL of them.

[Agent-X-]

Here's my prediction: all of those games will be announced at E3. ALL of them.

Don't toy with my heart... I know better, but I can still hope.

[Evan_B]

My prediction? None of those games will be announced, nor will they ever run, on Switch.

[Soren]

I mean, you're already wrong. Kaplan and the Overwatch team have already said they won't announce anything or be at E3 this year.

[nickmitch]

I mean, you're already wrong. Kaplan and the Overwatch team have already said they won't announce anything or be at E3 this year.

Well of course they did.  How else would it be a surprise?  Think about it.

[Stratos]

I mean, you're already wrong. Kaplan and the Overwatch team have already said they won't announce anything or be at E3 this year.

Well of course they did.  How else would it be a surprise?  Think about it.

Just because THEY aren't going to be there and THEY aren't announcing anything does not mean that Nintendo won't be the ones announcing the partnership/release. Could be a big win, but judging from other comments about them being open to development means that if they agree it will still be a good while before we see the game release (thinking 2018).

[Soren]

http://www.express.co.uk/entertainment/gaming/789519/Nintendo-Switch-GAMES-LIST-Blizzard-Overwatch-min-specs-performance

“I think the problem is, we’ve really targeted our min spec in a way that we would have to revisit performance and how to get on that platform. And also, it’s already challenging right now maintaining three platforms and patching simultaneously, which is something that we’ve finally been able to achieve.�

Hint hint, Switch is not powerful enough to handle Overwatch.

[Mop it up]

The Nintendo console cycle begins again. We're still in the hopeful third-party stage it seems...

[Evan_B]

You misspelled "hopeless."

[NWR_insanolord]

Switch is going to get a lot of support from Nintendo, indies, and Japan. Beyond that, everything's up in the air.

[Adrock]

By "up in the air," do you mean "hopeless?"

[NWR_insanolord]

I wouldn't call it hopeless. Intermittent is probably the best word for it. We'll get some things from western third parties, depending on how the system and games for it sell. Barring Wii-like hardware sales it's never going to get a ton of support from those kind of developers, but there'll be some.

[Evan_B]

By "some" do you mean "nothing?"

[Agent-X-]

http://www.express.co.uk/entertainment/gaming/789519/Nintendo-Switch-GAMES-LIST-Blizzard-Overwatch-min-specs-performance

“I think the problem is, we’ve really targeted our min spec in a way that we would have to revisit performance and how to get on that platform. And also, it’s already challenging right now maintaining three platforms and patching simultaneously, which is something that we’ve finally been able to achieve.�

Hint hint, Switch is not powerful enough to handle Overwatch.

That is not true by any stretch. Overwatch could run on much weaker hardware and in fact runs on lesser PC hardware than is in the Switch if I'm to believe some of the discussions I've seen elsewhere. When talking about a minimum specification, he could be referring strictly to consoles or even just about one aspect of platform hardware (ie. CPU, GPU, or memory).


I would bet money some group out there could get little Overwatch to run just fine on the Switch. Would the textures be less? For sure. Would the resolution be less? Of course. But they could do 60 fps and have a fun game running on the Switch. It's just an online shooter.

[Evan_B]

By "just an online shooter," do you mean "the greatest source of representation in video game HISTORY?"

[NWR_insanolord]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure the Switch could run the game if they wanted it to. I think what the developer said in that quote is the truth: it would be a lot of work to port the game and then keep it updated, and they don't want to go through that.

[Evan_B]

By "pretty sure," do you mean "hugely skeptical of Nintendo having any sort of success with this gargantuan success, especially when it would be in direct competition with the worst source of representation in video game HISTORY, AKA Splatoon?"

[Soren]

That is not true by any stretch. Overwatch could run on much weaker hardware and in fact runs on lesser PC hardware than is in the Switch if I'm to believe some of the discussions I've seen elsewhere. When talking about a minimum specification, he could be referring strictly to consoles or even just about one aspect of platform hardware (ie. CPU, GPU, or memory).

I would bet money some group out there could get little Overwatch to run just fine on the Switch. Would the textures be less? For sure. Would the resolution be less? Of course. But they could do 60 fps and have a fun game running on the Switch. It's just an online shooter.

I don't disagree. Most toasters will run Overwatch just fine. But Overwatch on consoles is targeting (and nails most of the time) a 1080p dynamic resolution/60FPS experience, minus a few graphical bits of fluff that appear on the PC version. I don't think they want to compromise that just to run on another set of hardware. If they've balked at making an official Mac version, they won't be touching the Switch.

[Stratos]

Most conversation I have read seems to point to the need to balance yet another online ecosystem/shop. And they personally demand that all of the console systems has equal updates. It is challenging enough to co-ordinate Microsoft and Sony's approval system, adding in Nintendo's, with their very strict (and sometimes odd) parameters it would be very challenging to keep all three on a unified update cycle.

[Agent-X-]

Most conversation I have read seems to point to the need to balance yet another online ecosystem/shop. And they personally demand that all of the console systems has equal updates. It is challenging enough to co-ordinate Microsoft and Sony's approval system, adding in Nintendo's, with their very strict (and sometimes odd) parameters it would be very challenging to keep all three on a unified update cycle.

I also think that this is the case, at least for now.


The most important thing I take from the discussion with the Overwatch guys is that neither the guy giving the answers nor the developers have any real decision-making power. They won't even be involved in the decision whether it does or doesn't happen.

[Oedo]

Takashi Mochizuki of the WSJ relaying some words from Kimishima:

Nintendo CEO said repeatedly there are "more unannounced titles" that should boost Switch itself's sales. Can't wait E3! (but I'm not going)

He notes that Kimishima did not specify whether this was in reference first-party titles, so this doesn't necessarily strengthen the rumors of a Smash 4 or Pokemon Sun and Moon port.

[Adrock]

"Switch will have new games, yes."

Thanks for the update, guys.

[Mop it up]

"Switch will have new games, yes."

Thanks for the update, guys.

What a crazy strategy. Not so sure it'll work for them.

[nickmitch]

"Switch will have new games, yes."

Thanks for the update, guys.

What a crazy strategy. Not so sure it'll work for them.

It's certainly bold. Got to give them that.

[Soren]

"Switch will have new games, yes."

Thanks for the update, guys.

What a crazy strategy. Not so sure it'll work for them.

It's certainly bold. Got to give them that.

I for one think Switch will have no new games.

[pokepal148]

"Switch will have new games, yes."

Thanks for the update, guys.

What a crazy strategy. Not so sure it'll work for them.

It's certainly bold. Got to give them that.

I for one think Switch will have no new games.

Smash 4 Switch confirmed.

[nickmitch]

"Switch will have new games, yes."

Thanks for the update, guys.

What a crazy strategy. Not so sure it'll work for them.

It's certainly bold. Got to give them that.

I for one think Switch will have no new games.

Smash 4 Switch confirmed.

An all-port lineup sounds crazy, but would catch them up to the PS4's library.

[King of Twitch]

OP has been updated with all the schedules. If you want a rundown you can check it on Kotaku if you don't mind feeling dirty.

[Stratos]

Monster Hunter XX for the Switch confirmed!!!

http://kotaku.com/monster-hunter-xx-is-coming-to-the-nintendo-switch-1795566595

[Evan_B]

With all these early announcements and reveals, I wonder if Reggie really will be going big this year.

[Stratos]

He's going so big that the news is splitting out at the seams.


Hopefully this isn't a repeat of that one E3 (2004 I think?) where Wario World on the Gamecube was leaked a few days before the event and it turned out that was the big headlining title for Nintendo. That was probably one of the weakest years for them before the Wii Music fiasco.

[Evan_B]

Considering Mario x Rabbids was supposed to be a surprise reveal, I don't have much hope for this year, at all.

[Order.RSS]

Considering Mario x Rabbids was supposed to be a surprise reveal, I don't have much hope for this year, at all.

Ubi got us covered, Many Important and Very Smart people have told me the real surprise will be Rayman x Goombas: Reresurrecteangce.

[nickmitch]

The Mario x Rabbids thing would have been a cool surprise because it would've been completely unexpected, not because it's this phenomenal, groundbreaking concept.

Nintendo, for better or worse, lives and dies by the first party reveals.  Now, they've shown their hand somewhat and we know Mario Odyssey is the big game.  But last year, it was Zelda and that was still a good E3.  As long as Nintendo has a surprise or two up their sleeves, E3 should be fine.  The Wario World example is a prime example of Nintendo's hand getting revealed and blowing the show.  The third party leaks shouldn't hurt too much.

[Mop it up]

I think people get too caught up on surprises. As long as the games are good, that's all that matters to me. When or how they get announced is inconsequential.

[King of Twitch]

I suppose it comes down to what you consider a "big" E3, but I was pleased with Nintendo's E3 last year and Reggie's comments here don't seem that unreasonable. I go back and forth on whether Nintendo is going to come to the show with a slate of huge, new announcements, but showcasing a variety of exciting games and having a great showing that way? Yeah, I can believe that. These are the Switch games Nintendo has announced which should have a presence at the show this year:

Splatoon 2
Super Mario Odyssey
Xenoblade Chronicles 2
Fire Emblem Switch
Fire Emblem Warriors
The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild (Expansion Pass)

Even if there are literally no new announcements, I'm pretty stoked just to learn a lot more about these games. With the exception of maybe Fire Emblem Warriors, all of those are huge releases and figure to be great games. And, in reality, there will almost certainly be new announcements as well.

Now we can add:
Mario x Rabbids
Monster Hunter XX
Harvest Moon: Light of Hope

and don't forget:
Pikmin 3DS
Pokemon and Zelda mobile
LEGO Marvel Super Heroes 2 (holiday)
1 2 Switch sales numbers (30min)
ARMS (comes out the day after E3)
SNES Classic
Retro's secret project

That seems like a respectable list.

[Adrock]

I think people get too caught up on surprises. As long as the games are good, that's all that matters to me. When or how they get announced is inconsequential.

I like surprises. Sure, a company can quietly announce a game in passing, but a little showmanship can go a long way.

[NWR_insanolord]

And showmanship is what E3 is all about. What comes out in the end is what's most important, but strong announcements are important in and of themselves, especially for the Switch this year. Nintendo's got some good momentum going in terms of sales and mindshare, and "winning" E3 would keep that going and push it even further.

[Shaymin]

The only major firm who wins E3 is Take Two, so that's not really a concern this year.

[Mop it up]

And showmanship is what E3 is all about. What comes out in the end is what's most important, but strong announcements are important in and of themselves, especially for the Switch this year. Nintendo's got some good momentum going in terms of sales and mindshare, and "winning" E3 would keep that going and push it even further.

Sure, but does it specifically have to be surprises? In the grand of scheme of things, do leaks ruin anything?

[Khushrenada]

Sometimes its nice to just know what is being shown because when a surprise trailer launches you can be confused and trying to figure out what game or series this might be for and as your mind is racing through that you're not really focusing on what's being shown or making erroneous connections. Then when the product is brand new and unrelated to anything you are then trying to figure out if you like or what it actually is. Then its off to the next surprise trailer so your mind is playing a bit of catch-up throughout. Knowing what something is or will be ahead of time removes that initial guesswork and you can just take in the gameplay about to be shown.

I'd say leaks don't really ruin anything although it may be disappointing at the end if there are no real new reveals because one still expects new and surprising reveals at the event.

[King of Twitch]

https://thenextweb.com/apps/2017/05/31/pokemon-nitendo-new-game-pokeland/

another game for mobile – Pokeland.

A fusion between Go and the older Rumble edition, the game pits miniature Pocket Monsters in a series of trans-island duels. Meanwhile, you will also get a chance to collect and train tonnes of other creatures.

Starting today, the iconic gamemaker is rolling out an Android-only alpha test which will be limited to the first 10,000 sign-ups. While early players will have six islands, 52 different stages, 15 levels and 134 Pocket critters to explore, they won’t be able to transfer their accumulated player data once the official app launches.

no word on international release yet.

[Stogi]

Between Xenoblade, Monster Hunter, Splatoon 2 and Mario, I'd say Nintendo are really showing us what the Switch is capable of.

That new 2DS is also a stunner. I'd expect the revamp to last a couple years until the Switch gets its own.

[King of Twitch]

Just a little somethin-somethin to get you all in the mood for next week:

Between Xenoblade, Monster Hunter, Splatoon 2 and Mario, I'd say Nintendo are really showing us what the Switch is capable of.

That new 2DS is also a stunner. I'd expect the revamp to last a couple years until the Switch gets its own.

You think they'll do an even more slimmed down version of Switch? Or will they go the XL route?

[nickmitch]

I think, when that time comes, Nintendo will go the XL route with the Switch, which will look ridiculous in the original dock.

[Spak-Spang]

Nickmitch.  I disagree when the time comes...I think Nintendo will make a smaller portable switch without detachable controllers...but will be full conpatiable with the switch.  Slightly smaller screen.  Non detachable controllers and still capable of hooking into the dock for TV play. 

[nickmitch]

My only question about how making it smaller is how they handle the protrusion of the buttons/sticks. Then the system is in the dock, the edge of the those things is like a quarter inch away from the dock.  If they made the system thinner to accommodate this, it might not fit in the dock without an adapter (which I think is something Nintendo might actually do).  The other option would be to make a clamshell design that folds into the dock, but that's a pretty thin device I think.

A bigger device could be bigger without changing thickness.  But then maybe you have a problem with bendability like the iPhone.

[King of Twitch]

It'll be the fat man in a little suit routine

*riiip*

Considering their history of pulling support for various ports/cables in past consoles, I'd guess that they'll keep the system the same size, but stop including the dock in year 4.

[Soren]

Well, every day the Nintendo Spotlight presentation loses 5 minutes. By Tuesday the whole thing will be just a press release.

[Khushrenada]

Do tell.

[Spak-Spang]

My only question about how making it smaller is how they handle the protrusion of the buttons/sticks. Then the system is in the dock, the edge of the those things is like a quarter inch away from the dock.  If they made the system thinner to accommodate this, it might not fit in the dock without an adapter (which I think is something Nintendo might actually do).  The other option would be to make a clamshell design that folds into the dock, but that's a pretty thin device I think.

A bigger device could be bigger without changing thickness.  But then maybe you have a problem with bendability like the iPhone.

Well they sell it primarily as a portable device to replace the 3DS in 2 years...and then they sell an additional Dock for the special portable version.  I don't seem them needing to change the thickness.  I seem them making the screen slightly smaller and using the extra room of the attached controllers into the system to house everything. 

To me it just seems that in 2 years, if the switch is truly successful trying to make a more affordable version that replaces the 3DS as the primary gaming device just seems like a good idea.

[Shaymin]

Well, every day the Nintendo Spotlight presentation loses 5 minutes. By Tuesday the whole thing will be just a press release.

[Soren]

Do tell.

The Spotlight is apparently just 25 minutes, down from the 30 originally reported.

[Khushrenada]

Just 25 minutes? That seems like a low running time for E3......

[lolmonade]

I guess it depends on what they use those 25 minutes for.  If it's like the news snippets from the ARMS/Splatoon Nintendo Direct and they use the Treehouse time to flesh out the actual gameplay and features, I think that could be reasonable.


If it's 18 minutes of Mario & Rabbids and trying to cram in a bunch of quick shot announcements at the end, then it'll be BS.

[nickmitch]

My only question about how making it smaller is how they handle the protrusion of the buttons/sticks. Then the system is in the dock, the edge of the those things is like a quarter inch away from the dock.  If they made the system thinner to accommodate this, it might not fit in the dock without an adapter (which I think is something Nintendo might actually do).  The other option would be to make a clamshell design that folds into the dock, but that's a pretty thin device I think.

A bigger device could be bigger without changing thickness.  But then maybe you have a problem with bendability like the iPhone.

Well they sell it primarily as a portable device to replace the 3DS in 2 years...and then they sell an additional Dock for the special portable version.  I don't seem them needing to change the thickness.  I seem them making the screen slightly smaller and using the extra room of the attached controllers into the system to house everything. 

To me it just seems that in 2 years, if the switch is truly successful trying to make a more affordable version that replaces the 3DS as the primary gaming device just seems like a good idea.

I also think a smaller device with attached controllers makes sense.  I'm just not convinced in how similar the design would be.  I think your idea would push the buttons and sticks to the edge of the machine, which could still be comfortable.

[MagicCow64]

Well I caught up last night on the general E3 announcements, and then watched the Nintendo Spotlight just now. Really a pretty underwhelming show overall, not a looker among the third parties or Sony/Microsoft that I saw.

Nintendo was okay. Metroid Prime 4 apparently not being developed by Retro, is, uh. The Metroid II remake from Mercury Steam looks like an awful 2D Other M. Yoshi's 2.5D Woolly World looks good, I'm assuming this is Good Feel? Better be. The Rabbids game actually looks pretty good, might be okay! Don't give a **** about eSports, but Nintendo going all in on cross-platform play is obviously a good idea.

That Mario Odyssey trailer fucking rekt though, looks like an all-timer in the making.

[ShyGuy]

Here are the titles from the various other conferences that are related to Nintendo:

EA:Fifa 18
Microsoft: Minecraft
Bethesda: Skyrim
Ubisoft: Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle
Ubisoft: Just Dance

Maybe Steep Winter Olympics, maybe Beyond Good and Evil 2

edit: Let me know if I missed anything.

[NWR_insanolord]

Here are the titles from the various other conferences that are related to Nintendo:

EA:Fifa 18
Microsoft: Minecraft
Bethesda: Skyrim
Ubisoft: Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle
Ubisoft: Just Dance

Maybe Steep Winter Olympics, maybe Beyond Good and Evil 2

edit: Let me know if I missed anything.

Starlink.

[King of Twitch]

Sorry for the Mashable link, but they interviewed the big man himself. I don't really know what they talked about exactly because there's a lot of commentary, but there are a few good quotes I guess:

http://mashable.com/2017/09/21/nintendo-internet/#uY_OGAJnXSqE

"A hypothetical on one message board gets picked up on another message board as fact," he said. "That is the nature of the state of the industry today. And that's why we do want to manage our messaging so closely."

"We actually sold through almost 2.8 million units, so we dramatically over delivered. And yet, demand outpaces supply," he said. "So what do some of the consumers on Reddit say? 'Gosh, Nintendo, if you would've made more you would've sold more.' Well, we did make more! And certainly we're on a pace to supply in the current fiscal year 10 million units."