Post by: that Baby guy on January 16, 2008, 04:27:31 PM
Also, since Calvin's Mom is out of the game, when Hobbes dies, I'll reveal that he was indeed Hobbes, so now, onward!
18 Days, Classmate, was lynched
The Mafia transmogrified Kashogi Stogi, who was Uncle Max.
Spiff's laser fired! Khushrenada, who played the part of Hobbes, was FRZAPPED!
Suzie SMASHED Patchkid, who was Coach Lockjaw, with a snowball!
There is a protection from Calvin's Dad
Of course, at this point, it should be noted that Suzie can not win the game, but she is still alive, so she may continue playing.
As always, you can ask your questions here or PM them to me.
Edit: Oops! Left one out!
A heat seeking missile flew down from the sky! Crimm, aka Moe, was hit!
Post by: that Baby guy on January 16, 2008, 04:27:47 PM
Post by: decoyman on January 16, 2008, 04:32:23 PM
Post by: Arbok on January 16, 2008, 05:05:24 PM
At least two mafia players finally fell, but... damn it. The townies just lost their central figure. At least we know who Pale is now, and we have to set up a "vanguard" to keep him safe. We have to make sure he gets at least three votes each day now.
Anyway, I'm staying true to my word and doing an avenging vote for 18 Days:
unvote. (sorry 18Days)
Post by: ShyGuy on January 16, 2008, 05:08:35 PM
Post by: Arbok on January 16, 2008, 05:10:53 PM
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Originally posted by: ShyGuy
So Khush was telling the truth... I should have known better.
Are you serious? Why was there still doubt after the mafia and susie failed to kill someone the night before?
Post by: ShyGuy on January 16, 2008, 05:13:51 PM
Post by: Arbok on January 16, 2008, 05:16:53 PM
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Originally posted by: ShyGuy
Man, Khush and Decoyman acted like Mafia, what was I supposed to think?
Well, just to be clear, I'm not being confrontational... but, again, all signs of the previous night pointed to Khush being Hobbes. The only way it could have been otherwise is if Suzie by chance happened to hit the real Hobbes, and Calvin's Dad managed to protect Khush from a mafia hit (which was a very unlikely scenario, especially if Khush was part of the mafia).
Post by: ShyGuy on January 16, 2008, 05:20:02 PM
Post by: Kairon on January 16, 2008, 07:33:09 PM
Spiff... I mean... I just... *sigh* I don't think there's any way to finish that sentence.
edit: And who did Calvin's dad protect if NOT Khush?
edit2: Wow... I seriously thought that 18 Days was mafia. Especially when he started getting really violent toward the end. That's what really swayed my vote... which I get the uneasy feeling may have been the straw that broke the camel's back.
Post by: Kairon on January 16, 2008, 08:18:37 PM
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Originally posted by: Arbok
Spiff?!? What the hell? Of all the people to kill Hobbes in the end...
At least two mafia players finally fell, but... damn it. The townies just lost their central figure. At least we know who Pale is now, and we have to set up a "vanguard" to keep him safe. We have to make sure he gets at least three votes each day now.
With Uncle Max's two votes, couldn't that have been anyone voted for last game, including me? Or Vudu, or Shyguy?
Of course, Unclemax is dead now...
Post by: Spak-Spang on January 17, 2008, 12:16:45 AM
Vote Stevey
Post by: Plugabugz on January 17, 2008, 12:58:15 AM
It's for statistical analysis.
Post by: Pale on January 17, 2008, 02:42:40 AM
A lot of people should be able to trust me now. If you have a fancy role and want to start working together, PM me.
Post by: Pale on January 17, 2008, 02:44:37 AM
change my vote
Post by: decoyman on January 17, 2008, 02:54:18 AM
First I wanted to apologize to 18 Days, I'm sorry I went after you so aggressively. But if the vote is between you and vudu (someone I've been in contact with, and trust), I'm going to have to back vudu, even if you're ALSO innocent. Further, your logic was spotty at best, and plain out wrong at worst. Plus, a plan you weren't aware of further compounded the confusion of the situation. Let me explain.
Why should we expose Calvin's Dad when the Calvinball Brigade already knew who he was? That move only benefits the mafia, then, who don't know for sure who he is. If they don't know for sure who he is, then he can use his protection on others as opposed to just protecting himself constantly. The idea of exposing him for all to know was just plain idiotic, and positively reeked of amateurish mafia maneuvering. Maybe you were being manipulated by mafia. I don't know. All I know is that your plan sucked pretty hard.
But don't stop reading now. The story gets better. I'm going to explain what's been going on the past few nights with the night actions, and why Spiff killed no one two nights ago, and killed his ally, Hobbes, last night. How do I know the things I'm about to divulge to you? Simple. I'm Spaceman Spiff. It's ok, the only people who didn't know this are the townies, so I want let you in on the secret.
The mafia has a character named Rosalyn. Every night, Rosalyn can swap the targets of two characters. Read the rules, I'm not going to re-explain it for everyone here. Anyways, since the VERY beginning, when Khush revealed himself as Hobbes, Rosalyn's been wreaking havoc in the Calvinball Brigade's plans. It started the first night, I believe, when Rosalyn started making it so that Khush couldn't trust the results of his investigations. Then, the second night, they somehow found me, and swapped my targets with (probably) one of their mafia members (lockjaw?), who was targeting Khush. The result? I attempted to hit Khush. Seeing as he was protected (by both Calvin's Dad AND Suzie, I believe), the "blast hit absolutely no one." Khush also got strange results from his investigation. The next day, they did it again. Except this time, neither Calvin's Dad NOR Suzie were protecting Khush, and the hit went through.
From an objective standpoint, the mafia made a brilliant maneuver. However, they don't know how close they've been coming to death since Day Two. I'm going to post my Targets I've sent to thatguy for the past few days. See below:
Day 2: "So, we have: 18 Days, Crimm, Patchkid as our lucky contestants tonight."
Day 3: "Time for some targets, eh wot? Crimm, Patchkid, Bustin98"
As you've seen, two of my hits for the past two nights have come true as mafia. They've been dodging bullets every night, thanks to Rosalyn. Now, that last name on the list may send some ripples through the ranks. I'm sorry, Bustin, but when someone just drops out of contact when someone asks the wrong question, that starts the suspicion. Then when I see you online last night for over an hour, with someone I KNOW is another mafia member, that cements it.
So, here's the new plan, out in plain sight for all to see. I'm not going to use my hits again until Rosalyn is dead. You made me kill my friend, and now we're going to have to deal with you. We're going to do this the old-fashioned way now: through votes.
Now... Get in contact with me if you want to win this game. Specifically, I'm looking for Stupendous Man. Time to step up. Endgame is approaching.
Spiff out. End transmission.
Post by: decoyman on January 17, 2008, 03:43:14 AM
Vote Bustin
The waters are clearing. Even if I'm wrong about Bustin, I won't be wrong much longer.
P.S. - I've sent a comprehensive character list w/ roles (all theories Khush, I and others have spent the game developing) to my most trusted companions. Knowledge is power, and I'm sharing it around. If I get taken out, rest assured: the Calvinball Brigade won't miss a beat.
Post by: Arbok on January 17, 2008, 04:59:05 AM
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Originally posted by: Kairon
With Uncle Max's two votes, couldn't that have been anyone voted for last game, including me? Or Vudu, or Shyguy?
No. None of those were voted for the first time Pale did a protect. He is the only possibility as he was the only one to have been voted for two nights in a row.
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Originally posted by: Kairon
edit: And who did Calvin's dad protect if NOT Khush?
Himself. Recall: when it's stated that the Dad preformed a protection, it doesn't mean he actually saved someone from death.
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Originally posted by: Pale
I also think I'm going to...
Vote Vudu
Okay, time to clear Vudu's name, as I don't suspect him at all now. My original assumption was that he was Moe. My reason was Khush's comment at the end of the night when I wanted to bandwagon with whatever he assumed, yet he didn't seem keen on it. This got me thinking: who would be the ideal person to bully in this game? The answer was the person a lot of people trusted: Hobbes. After all, we all went after TVman on his lead. Plus, I assumed Khush might have been hinting at this.
What made me suspect Vudu was when I asked Khush, in public, why TVman was suspect that night and got no answer. However, I received a prompt PM from Vudu that contained why he thought Khush was targeting him. My response? In retrospect, I thought this was Moe trying to make the bullying look normal and not to raise eyebrows from those asking questions. With Moe now dead, I don't have any reason to think Vudu should be hit. In fact, if Moe was strong arming someone to vote for Vudu, as seems to be the case, I have reason to believe he is innocent.
So please, let's not vote for Vudu at this point in time unless someone has a strong case as to why.
Post by: ShyGuy on January 17, 2008, 07:00:34 AM
Post by: vudu on January 17, 2008, 07:12:19 AM
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Originally posted by: ShyGuy
Man, Khush and Decoyman acted like Mafia, what was I supposed to think?
QuoteOh come on! I trust you, but you're playing dumb which doesn't reflect well on your allegiance.
Originally posted by: ShyGuy
Wait, who is Pale?
Post by: vudu on January 17, 2008, 07:23:31 AM
QuoteCan you give some sort of explanation for your vote, or is it just a stab in the dark? We've already lost a lot of townies, and I wouldn't want to kill another one. I trust that you're on our side, but I can't figure out why you suspect Stevey as (AFAIK) he hasn't done anything to cause suspicion.
Originally posted by: Spak-Spang
Wow, I don't know what is going on or who to vote for, but since I am only on the computer in the early morning...I will just take a guess.
Vote Stevey
Post by: Pale on January 17, 2008, 07:29:33 AM
Vote Bustin
Post by: Spak-Spang on January 17, 2008, 07:33:33 AM
When I do that I randomly pick someone to vote for which hasn't gotten many votes, and shouldn't be killed. That is what I am going by.
Post by: Arbok on January 17, 2008, 07:37:33 AM
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Originally posted by: vudu
Can you give some sort of explanation for your vote, or is it just a stab in the dark? We've already lost a lot of townies, and I wouldn't want to kill another one. I trust that you're on our side, but I can't figure out why you suspect Stevey as (AFAIK) he hasn't done anything to cause suspicion.
Vudu is right. We are getting a good sense of things now, and doing "stabs in the dark" seems odd at this juncture in time.
Anyway, we need to set up at least three votes for Pale. Once again, I will elect my vote toward him if no one else steps up to the plate. However, we must be aware that this could be dangerous. It would be easy for someone with a malicious intent to have voted for him, and then change it at the last minute to deny him the three votes he needs for a protection (on the plus side, anyone who tries this would obviously reveal their allegiance). So we might consider getting him four votes a night, but it might be hard to make strong convictions with that many people out of the deciding process.
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Originally posted by: Spak-Spang
When I do that I randomly pick someone to vote for which hasn't gotten many votes, and shouldn't be killed. That is what I am going by.
If you aren't sure, then do your part and vote for Pale instead, as it will be useful then.
Post by: that Baby guy on January 17, 2008, 07:45:10 AM
Post by: bustin98 on January 17, 2008, 07:52:42 AM
I'm just a little classmate. If I'm struck down, it keeps someone more important from getting it, but I'd rather see votes go to someone not willing to stand up and plainly say they are not mafia.
Just consider this. Khush felt he was misled. And there is a group out there that could be under that very same influence. I think there is a connection.
Post by: vudu on January 17, 2008, 07:58:32 AM
I don't trust bustin98.
Post by: vudu on January 17, 2008, 08:14:46 AM
VOTE SHYGUY
Post by: bustin98 on January 17, 2008, 08:20:03 AM
But I'm gonna make a post with a great big 'I told you so' if I get voted out and its revealed that I'm a townie.
At least I'm saying it, unlike 18 Days who should have.
Post by: that Baby guy on January 17, 2008, 08:20:52 AM
Post by: Plugabugz on January 17, 2008, 08:40:57 AM
That's what imma do thats what imma do thats what imma do. Don't tell nobody
Post by: decoyman on January 17, 2008, 08:41:23 AM
Here's the convo: YOU DECIDE. Mafia? Or just Excuses of the "Lame" kind?
Bustin98:
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Dude, ok.
For a while this game was getting lame, with all the townies falling. So I wanted to stir the pot. I got talking to kashogi, arbok, and kairon about railroading various people for the hell of it, or trying to instigate some fighting between various parties.
Noone really bit though.
And that is why I said what I did about Vudu. Though I think he is not to be trusted. I was thinking Pale was up to something, but now I know the diff.
I'm a townie. A general townie role, so to paraphrase my first PM.
Also, I work from a home office. I'm in front of my computer from 9 in the morning till 2 or 3 at night. While I wait for whatever I'm working on at the moment to finish I use that time to feed my habit of browsing gaming sites. And multiple tabs in IE7 helps keep the sites up at all times. So that's why I was on.
Decoyman:
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Do you know what it sounds like to me? It sounds like you're squirming. You've seen the possible end of your team, and are desperate to evade this vote. Well, unless you come up with something better than that, I'm not changing.
Sorry. By "stirring the pot," you attracted a bit too much attention. And since your friend Rosalyn (or are you Rosalyn?) keeps screwing with my powers, I'm going to have to rely on the vote to take you down.
You've done really well, though. I didn't expect you to be able to use some of your mafia powers like you did. Nice job. But now is the time to end this game.
If you have any revelations that could convince me of your innocence, I'm more than willing to listen. But I'll warn you, you have an uphill battle ahead of you in that regard.
Post by: Kairon on January 17, 2008, 08:41:54 AM
Edit: And for what it's worth, bustin really did contact me yesterday about trying a more aggressive tact to draw out mafia.
Post by: that Baby guy on January 17, 2008, 08:51:56 AM
Post by: ShyGuy on January 17, 2008, 08:53:17 AM
Post by: Kairon on January 17, 2008, 09:01:22 AM
Post by: Pale on January 17, 2008, 10:57:41 AM
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Originally posted by: Kairon
Let's not forget that I also got a vote yesterday, and the day before. With Uncle Max's help, that's enough for protection. We won't conclusively know if Calvin's Dad is Pale until either Pale or I get no votes and a protection happens...
Edit: And for what it's worth, bustin really did contact me yesterday about trying a more aggressive tact to draw out mafia.
This post is might suspicious Kairon....
Are you mafia?
Post by: Arbok on January 17, 2008, 10:58:13 AM
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Originally posted by: Kairon
Let's not forget that I also got a vote yesterday, and the day before. With Uncle Max's help, that's enough for protection. We won't conclusively know if Calvin's Dad is Pale until either Pale or I get no votes and a protection happens...
Oh right, Decoyman changed his vote at the last second (literally according to the timestamp...). I still think it's safe to assume who Pale is regardless. Although if someone still wants to think Kairon is the Dad, and that Uncle Max had been gunning for him two days in a row for whatever reason despite only getting one vote each day, they are welcome to it.
I feel pretty strongly in believing who the Dad actually is, though, and will keep a running tally of votes for Pale. Right now, he has 1/3 (Plugabugz).
And, what the hell, here is a tally of the other votes so far too, although it's spread pretty even:
Bustin - 2
Stevey - 1
Shyguy - 1
Post by: Kairon on January 17, 2008, 01:03:21 PM
Post by: Arbok on January 17, 2008, 01:13:07 PM
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Originally posted by: Kairon
vote Pale
And that brings it to 2/3 for Pale (Plugabugz + Kairon). Need one more. If anyone doesn't have a strong conviction, then this is a good place to put your vote.
Also, as I did last time, if three votes aren't recorded I will place mine here as the third.
Post by: Sister Mary LeFever on January 17, 2008, 01:15:49 PM
VOTE PALE
Post by: that Baby guy on January 17, 2008, 01:40:23 PM
Post by: Dasmos on January 17, 2008, 01:43:15 PM
Post by: Arbok on January 17, 2008, 01:44:40 PM
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Originally posted by: Sister Mary LeFever
Since I have no other idea, and he voted for me...
VOTE PALE
Okay, we got our third Pale vote. Thanks everyone, and please don't change your vote.
Post by: that Baby guy on January 17, 2008, 01:46:21 PM
Post by: Kairon on January 17, 2008, 01:53:50 PM
Post by: Arbok on January 17, 2008, 01:57:42 PM
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Originally posted by: thatguy
Well, I would have to say, you can never trust Khushrenada. And that 18 Days guy is almost always mafia. Either one of them would be pretty safe bets.
Band wagoning in 5... 4... 3... 2...
Post by: vudu on January 17, 2008, 02:01:27 PM
QuoteYou might want to get a fourth vote in there just in case one of the voters is the T-Rex.
Originally posted by: Arbok
Okay, we got our third Pale vote. Thanks everyone, and please don't change your vote.
Post by: that Baby guy on January 17, 2008, 02:01:27 PM
Post by: Arbok on January 17, 2008, 02:04:45 PM
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Originally posted by: vuduQuoteYou might want to get a fourth vote in there just in case one of the voters is the T-Rex.
Originally posted by: Arbok
Okay, we got our third Pale vote. Thanks everyone, and please don't change your vote.
Wait, why? Am I missing something in the rules? Does the rex's vote not count?
Post by: Sessha on January 17, 2008, 02:09:47 PM
Post by: bustin98 on January 17, 2008, 02:18:33 PM
Post by: that Baby guy on January 17, 2008, 02:20:13 PM
Post by: wandering on January 17, 2008, 02:21:14 PM
VOTE BUSTIN
Post by: ShyGuy on January 17, 2008, 02:21:50 PM
Post by: Dasmos on January 17, 2008, 02:22:59 PM
Post by: Toruresu on January 17, 2008, 02:28:02 PM
VOTE BUSTIN
Post by: that Baby guy on January 17, 2008, 02:29:49 PM
I've had some trouble figuring out how to do some things with them, and I really don't want to betray the art and wit in Calvin and Hobbes, so if there's no one looking forward to them each, I figure I might as well not post them, and instead, perhaps just post a funny strip, and let you guys pick out some funny strips, too.
Anyone prefer this idea over how the story is running right now?
Post by: Arbok on January 17, 2008, 02:53:59 PM
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Originally posted by: thatguy
So hey, I'm bored, so I want to ask: Are the story strips worth it? Do you guys like them, or was the first one great, and the other two pretty much irrelevant?
I liked the 2nd one, the one with the snowmen. I think a format like that is great, as it's funny and related to the day's events. The third one was okay, but mostly just seemed aimed at repeating what had actually occurred. So I kind of enjoy a more light hearted approach. One that's funny, and can be quasi-related but doesn't need to reiterate exactly what happened. I think short and sweat might be better too, as the second one was.
Oh, and on a unrelated note, I will likely be keeping my vote withheld tonight just so I can throw it out if anyone should bail from voting for Pale at the last minute (and I would remind people that anyone doing so would be seen as highly suspect).
Post by: that Baby guy on January 17, 2008, 03:06:01 PM
Post by: bustin98 on January 17, 2008, 03:22:11 PM
Get off the bandwagon and vote for someone else. I want to keep playing, even if I don't have any superpowers. What will my death prove, other than I was telling the truth?
If you're all wrong, you need to go after shyguy. Sessha has been pretty quiet too. You'll see.
But hey, at least I out-lasted Khush, right?
Post by: Kairon on January 17, 2008, 03:33:16 PM
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Originally posted by: thatguy
So hey, I'm bored, so I want to ask: Are the story strips worth it? Do you guys like them, or was the first one great, and the other two pretty much irrelevant?
I've had some trouble figuring out how to do some things with them, and I really don't want to betray the art and wit in Calvin and Hobbes, so if there's no one looking forward to them each, I figure I might as well not post them, and instead, perhaps just post a funny strip, and let you guys pick out some funny strips, too.
Calvin & Hobbes is so awesome that even if you didn't change the words, the strip would apply to the game. If you're having too much trouble, just post one of the many snowball strips with either calvin and susie, or Hobbes "first president" betraying the club to susie.
Or just post an alien landscape strip. Those are timeless.
Post by: ShyGuy on January 17, 2008, 03:37:56 PM
Post by: Kairon on January 17, 2008, 03:45:30 PM
Bustin - 6
Pale - 4
Stevey - 1
Shyguy - 1
Vudu - 1
Post by: decoyman on January 17, 2008, 03:49:33 PM
HURRY. Reply to the thread. Just say here, and be ready to edit that post you just made.
I'm going to need you guys to trust me on this one.
EDIT: HURRY! 8 minutes left!
Post by: that Baby guy on January 17, 2008, 03:50:02 PM
Post by: Arbok on January 17, 2008, 03:51:26 PM
Post by: Kairon on January 17, 2008, 03:54:04 PM
Post by: decoyman on January 17, 2008, 03:55:47 PM
I'm not going to give the mafia name unless we have plenty of votes to override Bustin's and not get Pale voted out. So get people in here STAT.
Post by: Arbok on January 17, 2008, 03:57:26 PM
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Originally posted by: decoyman
That's two. We're going to need way more than that. HURRY!!!! Thatguy, you don't count, sorry. :3
I'm not going to give the mafia name unless we have plenty of votes to override Bustin's and not get Pale voted out. So get people in here STAT.
No way it's going to happen in four minutes... especially to get everyone to edit their post in that time now.
Post by: bustin98 on January 17, 2008, 03:59:13 PM
Post by: decoyman on January 17, 2008, 04:00:01 PM
And if you're guilty... you're quite the fast-talker. You had many of us second-guessing ourselves here.
Everyone: leave your votes the same.
Post by: that Baby guy on January 17, 2008, 04:00:03 PM
And time!
Post by: wandering on January 17, 2008, 04:00:41 PM
Please contact me. I've found a loophole in the rules that would let both you and the townies win. I know you're probably reluctant to reveal your role to me, especially considering I'm just a townie. But, there's no way you're going to win unless you trust, and work with, some other people. I swear I mean you no harm. Hope to hear from you soon.
Post by: that Baby guy on January 17, 2008, 04:01:59 PM
Post by: bustin98 on January 17, 2008, 04:08:35 PM
Post by: that Baby guy on January 17, 2008, 04:20:34 PM
Bustin: 6
Pale: 4
ShyGuy: 1
stevey: 1
Vudu: 1
And, factoring anything that may remain hidden, the outcome is the same.
Bustin98, one of Calvin's Classmates, has been lynched.
Let me figure out all the night actions, and I'll have the next day up, pronto!
Post by: Arbok on January 17, 2008, 04:25:21 PM
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Originally posted by: thatguy
Bustin98, one of Calvin's Classmates, has been lynched.
You can't be serious... My god, 0/4...
Post by: decoyman on January 17, 2008, 04:28:13 PM
