Topic: Fire Emblem Fates to Release in Two Versions in North America

[Shaymin]

A big risk for the 2016 3DS RPG

http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/news/40461/fire-emblem-fates-to-release-in-two-versions-in-north-america

Fire Emblem Fates will release in two versions outside of Japan as well, as reported by Game Informer.

The dual release was confirmed to Game Informer today in their E3 writeup of the 2016 RPG, who also confirmed that the 3rd campaign as a downloadable content offer.

As of yet, we don't have details about the pricing or if a combined limited edition will be available. Live reaction to Fire Emblem Fates was a part of today's episode of Nintendo News Report.

[Oedo]

Oh boy. If there's an appropriately priced limited edition bundle that'll be up for pre-order for more than 9 seconds, I'll be alright with this. I'd imagine I'm very much in the minority though. They're going to catch quite a bit of flak for this.

[stevey]

BOYCOTT

[Mop it up]

Bummer.

[Crimm]

BOYCOTT

I don't agree, but this thing is f-ing up the comment section of the site so I'm curious to see what happens when I quote it

[SyrenneMcN]

BOYCOTT

I don't agree, but this thing is f-ing up the comment section of the site so I'm curious to see what happens when I quote it

Adding this to my comment. No opinion on the news itself.

[fred13]

I know this makes you all mad, but I couldn't care less. I LOVED Awakening and now I get more Fire Emblem and if I understand correctly this game is big enough to justify the 2 SKUs so I'll be happy to buy BOTH versions plus the DLC. I played through Awakening twice first in hard casual and then in hard classic (I tried the super hard mode, but I couldn't beat the 3rd level). I will probably pre-order this game and I'll be excited to own all of it.


If it's really the size of 2 separate games why does it bother people to buy them as separate games?

[Aqueous]

NOHR! So then dlc the other story?

[NWR_insanolord]

Sorry to ruin everybody's fun, but the giant text was screwing with the comment view on the front page.

[broodwars]

Well, I guess this is the end of the Fire Emblem franchise in North America, then. The series is niche enough as it is that I can't really see splitting the fanbase working out well in the long term.

[Zvarri!]

Why is everyone freaking out about this? There is enough content in each path to constitute two versions. There is no reason to complain about getting extra content, and it is petty to complain about paying for content.   

[leahsdad]

Oh boy. If there's an appropriately priced limited edition bundle that'll be up for pre-order for more than 9 seconds, I'll be alright with this.

Well, if we look to Pokemon for precedent, there was that AlphaSapphire/OmegaRuby bundle that was...78.99 or something like that?   Basically, saving you a dollar?  Well there you go.  Thanks, Nintendo.

[Oedo]

Well, I guess this is the end of the Fire Emblem franchise in North America, then. The series is niche enough as it is that I can't really see splitting the fanbase working out well in the long term.

To be fair, I think it broke through that niche label with Awakening selling over a million copies in the West. They got a ton of people into the series for the first time with that game and even if you lose some of them now, I can't see sales dropping so low that they can't justify further localizations. This is probably going to end like Splatoon where a lot of people complain before its release, but end up getting it anyway. We saw how strong the holdouts were for that in the face of good reviews/hype. 

[Zvarri!]

The versions of the game will be called Birthright & Conquest.


https://www.nintendo.co.uk/Games/E3/Nintendo-E3-2015-1022866.html
It's in the captions of the Fates trailer.

[Oedo]

Oh boy. If there's an appropriately priced limited edition bundle that'll be up for pre-order for more than 9 seconds, I'll be alright with this.

Well, if we look to Pokemon for precedent, there was that AlphaSapphire/OmegaRuby bundle that was...78.99 or something like that?   Basically, saving you a dollar?  Well there you go.  Thanks, Nintendo.

I wouldn't look at Pokemon as a precedent for anything. That franchise is in its own category entirely as far crap they can get away with.

[Zvarri!]

Oh boy. If there's an appropriately priced limited edition bundle that'll be up for pre-order for more than 9 seconds, I'll be alright with this.

Well, if we look to Pokemon for precedent, there was that AlphaSapphire/OmegaRuby bundle that was...78.99 or something like that?   Basically, saving you a dollar?  Well there you go.  Thanks, Nintendo.

Why are you looking at Pokemon for this? Look at how this is being handled in Japan. When you buy one game, you are able to buy the other game for about $15. Imo, this is very fair. $15 for for another complete Fire Emblem game? Sweet.

[TOPHATANT123]

Fire Emblem is up on the treehouse

[Wah]

does that mean oz as well?

[azeke]

Fire Emblem is up on the treehouse

It's kinda impressive technically that game doesn't have generic backgrounds for types terrains for battle animations.

It just zooms right in on the map and you will see exactly the same location you are on the bigger map, only zoomed in.

[ejamer]

I hate the way the SKU is split and DLC is required (?) if you want the full story. I buy retail games as a choice, but this and Splatoon feel like I'm being pushed to digital regardless of my preference.

Looks awesome, but I'm probably going to pass because of the way it's being handled.

[Zvarri!]

I hate the way the SKU is split and DLC is required (?) if you want the full story. I buy retail games as a choice, but this and Splatoon feel like I'm being pushed to digital regardless of my preference.

Looks awesome, but I'm probably going to pass because of the way it's being handled.

Would it actually be any different if it was one game that cost $55? I don't see the difference.

[Wah]

I really like the way the spilt story's going anyway.

[hhgjf]

I still don't get why people are so upset about the 2-version thingy. If I'm paying $40 for a game (the black version in this case), what I should be concerned with is whether it has $40 worth of content; it does not matter to me whether there's another white version, or grey version, or whatever color versions. Does one version justifies a $40 purchase? Do two versions justifies somewhere between $52-55 (presumably one path on retail and the other on DLC)? We DO NOT know yet, so why are we so eager to start complaining ahead of time? The Japanese release is in just a few days' time, why not wait until we have a better idea of the amount of content then start judging?

For me personally, I'm buying the black version and I'm perfectly fine with the fact that there exists another "white" version to serve whomever prefers that, as long as my black version has enough content. I'm likely going to spend 40-50 hours for one game, and that is a huge amount of my time so I'm not sure I wanna throw in another 30ish for another path which features similar (or exactly the same?) mechanism. Why is being offered options a bad thing?

The 3rd path DLC on the other hand, is what I'm actually concerned with from the beginning until now. If it is what I think it is, the supposedly best path, like the "Woohoo you know what, you didn't save the world, you screwed it up. You killed all these awesome characters that could have been saved and joined your cause" kind of best path? Then I could be legitimately pissed, but until we know that for sure (I hope I guess wrongly of course), I will refrain from complaining just out of my baseless assumptions.

[NWR_insanolord]

If they do it right it's basically a Zelda Oracle situation, where they're two full games with some interaction that launch simultaneously.

[ejamer]

If they do it right it's basically a Zelda Oracle situation, where they're two full games with some interaction that launch simultaneously.

Agreed, but my confidence that Nintendo will "do it right" is pretty low at the moment.


So far everything I've heard/read about the Japanese release suggests that Nintendo want people to buy half a game and then download the other half to complete the experience. I hate that model because I want to buy physical and not rely on downloaded content to get a full experience. 


Maybe the games released here will be full stand-alone experiences, maybe not. My choice certainly may change if the retail games are complete and DLC isn't required to complete the full story. But if I can't buy a full experience from retail then I'm not interested - end of story.




Protip: when spending my money, I don't care about your opinion.  You are expected to feel the same way.