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Title: Burnout 2 and Splinter Cell came out today... anyone get it?
Post by: AdvancedGamer on April 08, 2003, 09:47:46 AM
The topic pretty much says it all. Nintendo is pretty much killing my wallet. I'd like to pick up both these titles but I've gotten 4 games in the past month. Impressions any1?
Title: Burnout 2 and Splinter Cell came out today... anyone get it?
Post by: thecubedcanuck on April 08, 2003, 10:30:20 AM
Am buying Splinter Cell tonight if it is out here.

Will let you know.
Title: Burnout 2 and Splinter Cell came out today... anyone get it?
Post by: JoeSmashBro on April 08, 2003, 10:30:24 AM
My only question is that is Burnout 2 really only $29.99?? Has anyone seen this anywhere??
Title: Burnout 2 and Splinter Cell came out today... anyone get it?
Post by: The Omen on April 08, 2003, 10:45:19 AM
I'll be buying both sometime this month, plus I still want Vendetta.  Plus Skies of Arcadia....plus....ahhh, screw it
Title: Burnout 2 and Splinter Cell came out today... anyone get it?
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 08, 2003, 10:49:07 AM
I want Burnout 2.
Title: Burnout 2 and Splinter Cell came out today... anyone get it?
Post by: Infernal Monkey on April 08, 2003, 12:53:11 PM
I suggest everybody to go out and grab a copy of Burnout 2. Yes, everybody. Even little Timmy up the back of the class.

Haven't played it on GC yet, but the PS2 version has kept me entertained for an unhealthy amount of time. Can't get enough of sliding into parked cars, to watch my wreck sail through the air, crack into the side of a mountain, land back on the road, and have an oncoming truck attempt to brake, fail, and smash into my smoking disaster.

Mmmmm, destruction.

Oh yeah, the racing is fun too =)
Title: Burnout 2 and Splinter Cell came out today... anyone get it?
Post by: DiggleD44 on April 08, 2003, 12:59:37 PM
I was thinking about getting these games too, and i will. The question i ask though is which one to get first???



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SYSTEM OF A DOWN!!!

Title: Burnout 2 and Splinter Cell came out today... anyone get it?
Post by: Sir Pinch-a-Loaf on April 08, 2003, 01:15:13 PM
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Originally posted by: JoeSmashBro
My only question is that is Burnout 2 really only $29.99?? Has anyone seen this anywhere??


Looking online, it appears that it's $39.99.  Still cheaper than either the PS2 or XBox versions.
Title: Burnout 2 and Splinter Cell came out today... anyone get it?
Post by: mouse_clicker on April 08, 2003, 01:45:48 PM
Right, Burnout 2 is $40, no $30. Funny how the Xbox version comes out a month later, is $10 more, and is pretty much the same game (I think there's some few minor graphical enhancements, but that's it).
Title: Burnout 2 and Splinter Cell came out today... anyone get it?
Post by: StRaNgE on April 08, 2003, 02:18:10 PM
I thought splinter cell was not out till the 11th?

Title: Burnout 2 and Splinter Cell came out today... anyone get it?
Post by: whispering_smith on April 08, 2003, 02:37:14 PM
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Nintendo is pretty much killing my wallet.


I'm in the same boat with 4 games in as many weeks + a Platinum GC w/a 5th game. Oh well, making up for lost time/fun I guess.
Splinter Cell doesn't interest me too much (at least not any of the console versions). I'll definitely pick up B2. With its features + multiplayer it looks to have a lot of replay value. Then this month we also have NBA Street Vol.2 which is an almost guaranteed buy. Of course there's still the tempting Skies of Arcadia & Timesplitters 2 too. Ouch!
Title: Burnout 2 and Splinter Cell came out today... anyone get it?
Post by: kennyb27 on April 08, 2003, 04:20:25 PM
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I thought splinter cell was not out till the 11th?
The release is varying depending on the store.  IGN has it as the ninth I think, and EB had it for the 10th.  So it just depends.  I'm definitely renting it though, it looks pretty nice, but I don't have $50 to spare right now.
Title: Burnout 2 and Splinter Cell came out today... anyone get it?
Post by: dafunkk12 on April 08, 2003, 05:49:27 PM
Too bad I'm leaving for a regional academic team tourney tomorrow, otherwise I'd pick up my copy of Burnout 2.  Fortunately since I'm a regular, my EB is willing to hold on to my copy past the standard two days until I get back Sunday.  Anyway, I'd really love to know what stores have it for $30 since all the online stores I've checked (including places like WalMart and Target...well, nevermind they don't even list it) plus PriceGrabber.com have it for $40.  Well, I can still get it for $30 since I have a $10 EB Gift Voucher, but if I can save it for something else, that'd be even better.
Title: Burnout 2 and Splinter Cell came out today... anyone get it?
Post by: AdvancedGamer on April 09, 2003, 11:26:15 AM
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Originally posted by: whispering_smith


...Of course there's still the tempting Skies of Arcadia & Timesplitters 2 too. Ouch!


I picked up Timesplitters 2 last sunday for $20 at Sam's club brand new. I couldn't believe the price when I saw it. It's the greatest game and there's so much replay value it's crazy. The multiplayer modes our heavenly... there's sooooo much options and unlockables and you can even do 2-player co-opertive mode through the story. If I knew it was this good I would have defintly picked it up sooner. It's so good I would have paid $50 for it so at $20 you can't beat it. Go pick it up it's an absolute must have.
Title: Burnout 2 and Splinter Cell came out today... anyone get it?
Post by: nolimit19 on April 09, 2003, 11:50:20 AM
from everything i have read of splitter cell, i wil not be buying it any time soon. the game is supposed to be only 9 levels long with 10-15 hours of game play. and almost no replay value.....i am not buying it for 50. however i will look into burnout 2. if it gets some good reviews that one is mine. i want a good racing game for the gc. o and vendetta is supposed to be pretty good. i may be picking that up soon.
Title: Burnout 2 and Splinter Cell came out today... anyone get it?
Post by: Grey Ninja on April 09, 2003, 12:24:45 PM
I can't afford them.  They are on my list of games to be bought "in the future".  I still need to find Skies of Arcadia though.  After that I suppose I will hunt down Splinter Cell.  After that I am sure there will be another must buy.  And I still need Pokemon Ruby at some point.
Title: Burnout 2 and Splinter Cell came out today... anyone get it?
Post by: Christberg on April 09, 2003, 01:51:44 PM
Yeah, loads of decent third party GC titles this month.  Going to be pretty damn hard on my wallet for sure.
Title: Burnout 2 and Splinter Cell came out today... anyone get it?
Post by: Bloodworth on April 09, 2003, 02:05:16 PM
Gah, Just got a call from my guy at EB.  They don't get Burnout 2 in until Thursday.
Title: Burnout 2 and Splinter Cell came out today... anyone get it?
Post by: Darc Requiem on April 09, 2003, 03:20:22 PM
No luck here as well I checked for both titles today and neither was available. Sigh, its for the best....I really can't afford them but I'm gonna see if I can come up with something. I'm committed to purchasing high quality 3rd party titles for GC. Any word on the sales number last month? I was hoping for some concrete numbers. I can extrapolate some numbers from what Nintendo has said but I was just curious.

Darc Requiem
Title: Burnout 2 and Splinter Cell came out today... anyone get it?
Post by: StRaNgE on April 09, 2003, 04:17:31 PM
Looks like someone got a release date mixed up. i checked gamestop and EB, both said there shipment will be in Friday.  This is S. cal and the same stores had Zelda , Metroid and all others on the ship date 2 days prior to release date.

Title: Burnout 2 and Splinter Cell came out today... anyone get it?
Post by: Bloodworth on April 09, 2003, 04:31:32 PM
Strange, the official release on both was Tuesday.  You can check the press releases.  However, it seems that neither company shipped early enough for people to get them that soon.
Title: Burnout 2 and Splinter Cell came out today... anyone get it?
Post by: Chainsaw on April 10, 2003, 02:54:44 PM
Yeah, I've checked everywhere in the Twin Cities area on Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday and I have found no trace of this game. No one even knows when it's coming in.
Title: Burnout 2 and Splinter Cell came out today... anyone get it?
Post by: Bloodworth on April 10, 2003, 03:20:57 PM
Well, just called my guy at EB....still nothing.  Maybe Friday?
Title: Burnout 2 and Splinter Cell came out today... anyone get it?
Post by: Darc Requiem on April 10, 2003, 04:35:32 PM
I got tired of looking for them so I actually ordered them on-line yesterday. I actually managed to save $5 too. Well it would have been $15 but I had to deduct for shipping cost. So hopefuly I will receive them by Monday. Depends on when they actually get Burnout 2 and Splinter Cell in.

Darc Requiem
Title: Burnout 2 and Splinter Cell came out today... anyone get it?
Post by: Modulus-X on April 10, 2003, 05:55:57 PM
I was considering Burnout 2, but Midnight Club 2 is too tempting....
Title: Burnout 2 and Splinter Cell came out today... anyone get it?
Post by: o0O MeaN O0o on April 10, 2003, 08:06:39 PM
Got mine at GameStop (NE Philly). I spent the whole morning calling places and that's the only one who got the darn game. Well, actually 2 other stores told me that they didn't go through the UPS shipment yet and they thought that it was in there, which means y'all get tomorrow the latest.
Title: Burnout 2 and Splinter Cell came out today... anyone get it?
Post by: Rhoq on April 11, 2003, 04:56:19 AM
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Originally posted by: o0O MeaN O0o
Got mine at GameStop (NE Philly). I spent the whole morning calling places and that's the only one who got the darn game. Well, actually 2 other stores told me that they didn't go through the UPS shipment yet and they thought that it was in there, which means y'all get tomorrow the latest.



Would that be the Game Stop at Cottman & Bustleton?

I live in the NE as well (Oxford Circle, for the time being). I work in Center City Philadelphia and I usually buy the new releases at the Game Stop in the Gallery. I stopped there on Wednesday to buy Burnout 2 and I was told that Acclaim shipped them out a day late so no stock would arrive until Thursday (yesterday). I picked it up yesterday at Game Champ (15th & Chestnut). I played it for a little bit last and it is more amazing than the first Burnout (especially the crashes), but I found that the courses seem a bit easier.
Title: Burnout 2 and Splinter Cell came out today... anyone get it?
Post by: Perfect Cell on April 11, 2003, 11:51:34 AM
Finally got SC, EB didnt have any but Babbages did. Splinter Cell is pretty cool, but its a bit buggy, maybe its my copy.
Title: Burnout 2 and Splinter Cell came out today... anyone get it?
Post by: egman on April 11, 2003, 01:39:11 PM
No, it's not just your copy Perfect Cell. I've been following the the development of Splinter Cell GC on various other forums and IGN, and I have specifically held out because things did not look good for it. A lot promises were made about performance and how the game would be close to the Xbox version. But that claim was debunked when it became known the development team for the GC version was the one doing the PS2 version, not the Montreal team responsible for the Xbox and PC ones. I would have to rent the game to see for myself, but there are indications it was ported from the PS2. On top of that, it looks like a rushed port with the date being pushed back and various reports of choppy performance.

Now, for those who only have a Cube or who have not played SC before, don't let me dissuade you from picking up the game. You should experince the game if this is you only outlet, but just keep in mind that this port may not be all that it could have been. As for multi-console people, rent the game for your Cube and rent it for any other machine you have and compare for yourself. Despite the weakness of the port, many reviewers found that they liked the new cutscenes and slightly tweaked gameplay. However, that came at a loss of truncated levels and less bad guys. For those who mind those things, the this may not be for you.

For me right now, I a little disappointed. People bag on GameCube fans for not devouring 3rd parties like we do 1st parties, but I find it hard to support 3rd party efforts when they look like they were half assed.  
Title: Burnout 2 and Splinter Cell came out today... anyone get it?
Post by: Bloodworth on April 11, 2003, 01:57:20 PM
Burnout 2 is still MIA in L.A.  Been waiting on this game for about a year now....
Title: Burnout 2 and Splinter Cell came out today... anyone get it?
Post by: Uncle Ubb on April 11, 2003, 03:57:43 PM
I finally got my copy of Burnout 2.

I love it so far.  Haven't done much yet but it sparkles where the first didn't.

Only gripe is that getting a burnout is much, much easier than it used to be.  Not  a huge deal but something I was good at in the first game.  Now I can link 2 or even 3 burnouts in a row with little difficulty.

The crash mode is awesome.  You get to crash and then see the wreckage take place in a slow motion cutscene.

Haven't opened but one car.  The hot rod.  You do know that pieces of the car fly off after a wreck.  Incredible game.

Good luck finding your copy!

Uncle Ubb
Title: Burnout 2 and Splinter Cell came out today... anyone get it?
Post by: AdvancedGamer on April 11, 2003, 04:13:42 PM
I rented it tonight and just played it for like an hour and a half. I never picked up Burnout 1 but I always wanted it... It's a really cool game and satisfies your need for speed much more than any other racer I've ever played. It's great you should defintly not miss this one.
Title: Burnout 2 and Splinter Cell came out today... anyone get it?
Post by: David G on April 12, 2003, 04:18:15 AM
I bought Burnout 2 last nite and played it through all 21 zones in crash mode.   It's a lot better then the PS2 version.  The graphics are a litle better, but you dont notice them.  The gameplay is AWESOME.  
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Post by: thecubedcanuck on April 12, 2003, 08:56:48 AM
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On top of that, it looks like a rushed port with the date being pushed back and various reports of choppy performance.


I bought it this morning and have to say it kicks ass. I dont see any problems with it at all. The again I am not fussy on frame rates and so on, I play to have fun, a novel approah.
Title: Burnout 2 and Splinter Cell came out today... anyone get it?
Post by: mouse_clicker on April 12, 2003, 05:49:37 PM
Anyone else's EB having shipment troubles? I checked in on Wednesday since the shipping day was Tuesday and they said they'd get it Thursday. I call in Thursday and they said try again tomorrow. So I call in FRIDAY and they STILL don't have it. To their credit, I didn't call today (I figure I'll just pop in on Tuesday and pick up it and Lost Ages), but whoever's shipping the game really needs to get their act together.
Title: Burnout 2 and Splinter Cell came out today... anyone get it?
Post by: NIN10D0 on April 14, 2003, 11:15:01 PM
Picked up a last copy at Funcoland, no other places had them.
The game is very fun, the control is very tight and responsive.
I just unlocked a police car and a pursuit mode.
I will say this would have been the best racing game if it had real licensed cars.
But that's just me, I like looking at real cars, although cars on Burnout 2 don't look bad at all, and I wouldn't mind having few more camera views while racing.
Maybe I'm a NFS fanboy... hehe but this game is definitely worth checking out if you like racing games.
Title: Burnout 2 and Splinter Cell came out today... anyone get it?
Post by: StRaNgE on April 15, 2003, 09:14:28 AM
rented it last night and the multiplayer crash mode is lots of fun, but  besides that it gets boring pretty quick.  
Not as quick as burnout 1 though, that  I think I returned to blockbuster in under 2 hours. This  time I might keep it for the whole rental time. Or at least till Friday when they say they are getting splinter cell in.

So  what extras can you unlock in the main 1 player game ? I been playing crash mode mostly, loads of fun. Short but fun.
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Post by: Bloodworth on April 15, 2003, 09:57:46 AM
WindyMan should have a review up tonight or tomorrow.  The lucky punk!  I still haven't been able to find it.
Title: Burnout 2 and Splinter Cell came out today... anyone get it?
Post by: Bloodworth on April 15, 2003, 02:18:38 PM
Finally got word from my guy at EB.  They got Burnout 2 today - four lousy copies of it.  I'm seriously taken back by the way a major title like this can ship with such little support.
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Post by: AdvancedGamer on April 15, 2003, 02:38:35 PM
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Originally posted by: Bloodworth
Finally got word from my guy at EB.  They got Burnout 2 today - four lousy copies of it.  I'm seriously taken back by the way a major title like this can ship with such little support.



What the F^*K?!! Are you serious? That really pisses me off. Things for Nintendo could be worse than they seem.
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Post by: Darc Requiem on April 15, 2003, 02:39:46 PM
Sigh, this the kind of crap I'm talking about. 3rd parties need to get off of their asses. I mean whats Acclaims excuse? Burnout on GC out sold Burnout on X-Box. Ship some damn copies people jeez. They actually took the time to make a great port, enchanced graphics, added features, etc. Ship out enough copies so we can actually buy and enjoy your work. Plus when we buy the game you'll make money its a win/win situation for all of us. Sorry guys I'm really pissed at third parties right now. I'm gonna go play Golden Sun 2 and chill. BTW I'm still waiting on my on-line orders for Splinter Cell and Burnout 2. Its seems they still haven't gotten their Burnout 2 shipment.....

Darc Requiem
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Post by: Christberg on April 15, 2003, 04:11:15 PM
I got Burnout 2 and it's a really solid game.  Definitely worth the purchase.

I had Spinter Cell on Xbox, didn't like it.  Too much artificial difficulty.

I definitely hear you guys about the third party crap.  I believe I've posted some fairly lengthy rants about this in fact.
Title: Burnout 2 and Splinter Cell came out today... anyone get it?
Post by: bubba23 on April 15, 2003, 09:34:14 PM
Got Burnout 2 at the EB in St. Catharines, Ontario, last copy after being on the shelf on the shelf for a couple days. I think I must agree with you guys that this game was undershipped. Come on Acclaim, have faith in us GC owners! I'm quite pleased with the game. Nice looking tracks, smooth framerate, an exciting and fun crash mode, and zooming fast gameplay. It'd be nice if it had liscenced cars and random weather but that's something we can hope to have in Burnout 3.
Title: Burnout 2 and Splinter Cell came out today... anyone get it?
Post by: egman on April 16, 2003, 05:16:55 AM
Despite my major reservations, I did go on a get the GC verison of SC if only to send to the message that GC owners do want 3rd party. By the way, besides Burnout 2 being hard to find, did anyone have to tear up the streets for SC as well. I must've spent half a day locating a copy of it.

The games is quite playable and probably does succeeded the PS2 version in most respects, but I would've love to have the original levels in there instead of the truncated ones. I don't know the economics of it all, but is it really hard in these days to make games multi-disc. I don't see any reason that they had to squeeze all they could on to disc. I didn't hear too many complaints during the PS era when we were getting games with up to 6 discs in a pack, so what's the deal now?

I'm hoping these will sale good enough to actually encourage more good faith efforts on the GC, but the way things sound right now, Acclaim and Ubi Soft don't have much faith in making money off of these ports. I don't think thats a good attitude considering I saw a lot people looking for these games during the weekend. The audience is out there, it's just that 3rd parties can't expect to shovel poor games or ports onto the GC audience and  then expect them to eat it up like candy. We'll wait for good games.
Title: Burnout 2 and Splinter Cell came out today... anyone get it?
Post by: Bloodworth on April 16, 2003, 07:26:05 AM
I'm pondering doing an editorial concerning this subject.  If you have worked in the retail end, send me an e-mail and give me as much information as you can regarding how you get shipments, how the number of copies of a game are decided, horror stories, etc.  

If I go through with it, I'll probably see if we can send it to a few companies as well.
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Post by: StRaNgE on April 16, 2003, 08:41:38 AM
Burnout 2 review.....

Most of what was said in the new review is pretty on the ball except for a couple things  and  a few things left out.

1st  lets discuss the burnouts,  why oh  why do the other cars get to use your burnouts?  every time you use them they pick up the exact speed as you do. Seems very unfair and  would have been rather cool if you used your own and if they used their own as well.

2nd, the green arrows and red x's blocking   roads, why oh  why did they not just design the tracks so that there are multiple ways to finish the lap or maybe if they  needed arrows make signs  that you could go through  smashing them up ending up going the wrong way  which would make you loose or find a new shortcut. This was something that could easily been done without.

3rd the most annoying thing on this game is the damn screens between the races. I have never  ever seen so many damn  useless  screens that you have to push  your way through to get to the next track. It's absolutely ridiculous how many time you have to push the A button to get to the next level.


Over all these are pretty minor complaints except for the burnout itself being shared. I find myself  driving without using it more just to keep the other cars from steeling my burnouts. Lol

as far as it looking just like southern California on those levels, that's   not true either. I drive that route into long beach often and although you can tell it is based off of   the area it   is not a copy at all.

It resembles more of ocean st. and downtown long beach then P.C.H.  Just so ya know.


the crash  game is still the best.
Title: Burnout 2 and Splinter Cell came out today... anyone get it?
Post by: Darc Requiem on April 16, 2003, 11:19:18 AM
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Originally posted by: egman
Despite my major reservations, I did go on a get the GC verison of SC if only to send to the message that GC owners do want 3rd party. By the way, besides Burnout 2 being hard to find, did anyone have to tear up the streets for SC as well. I must've spent half a day locating a copy of it.

The games is quite playable and probably does succeeded the PS2 version in most respects, but I would've love to have the original levels in there instead of the truncated ones. I don't know the economics of it all, but is it really hard in these days to make games multi-disc. I don't see any reason that they had to squeeze all they could on to disc. I didn't hear too many complaints during the PS era when we were getting games with up to 6 discs in a pack, so what's the deal now?

I'm hoping these will sale good enough to actually encourage more good faith efforts on the GC, but the way things sound right now, Acclaim and Ubi Soft don't have much faith in making money off of these ports. I don't think thats a good attitude considering I saw a lot people looking for these games during the weekend. The audience is out there, it's just that 3rd parties can't expect to shovel poor games or ports onto the GC audience and  then expect them to eat it up like candy. We'll wait for good games.


I was having difficulty finding both games Egman, thats why I just ordered them on-line. I saved like $5 but I did it because I just got tired of running all over the place looking for the games. Of course if I would have known it would have taken this long I would have just beat the streets looking for copies....oh well.

Darc Requiem
Title: Burnout 2 and Splinter Cell came out today... anyone get it?
Post by: NickNiteQ93 on April 16, 2003, 02:09:19 PM
I know the feeling of having too many games that I want and can't buy them.  DEMMIT.  I wasn't even really into getting another game for quite some time once I got Wind Waker, but I beat it ALOT faster than I thought I would, so I'm looking for a new experience.  I bought Splinter Cell today because I love spy type stuff, and I tried to get Red Faction 2, but they didn't have it.  Pooy.  But I would like to buy Burnout 2 because I really dug the first one, and Hot Pursuit 2 just didn't ease my racing cravings.  And I HIGHLY recommend Time Splitters 2 to anyone who loves FPSs because the story mode is OK, but as far as multiplayer goes, let's just say it's the Perfect Dark killer as far as I'm concernd.  If you can get 4 people and a big TV to play it on, you'll never play another game for a long, long, long time.
Title: Burnout 2 and Splinter Cell came out today... anyone get it?
Post by: dafunkk12 on April 16, 2003, 02:41:39 PM
My stripmall EBGames still hasn't gotten Burnout 2, but fortunately the mall EB got them in yesterday...3 of them.  Ironically, my EBGames' manager got stuck in traffic transporting the last copy from the mall to his store to fulfill my preorder.  Definately well worth the wait.  I haven't has this much of a thrill driving since 6-player Daytona last week at Disney.  I just wish there was either in-car and/or higher-outside views; the included ones feel a bit too low.
Title: Burnout 2 and Splinter Cell came out today... anyone get it?
Post by: razorpit on April 16, 2003, 10:33:29 PM
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Originally posted by: Bloodworth
Finally got word from my guy at EB.  They got Burnout 2 today - four lousy copies of it.  I'm seriously taken back by the way a major title like this can ship with such little support.


My EB got 1, and I was lucky enough to get it.