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Lakers landed Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, who was the best available free agent left on the market and only because Danny Ainge was forced to trade Avery Bradley. Then, the Pistons were like, "We have 37 guards on the team now" and renounced KCP's rights.

Not a bad off-season for the Lakers. I didn't love (but also didn't hate) trading D'Angelo Russell just to dump Timofey Mozgov's contract. I get it. There was no way to get Mozgov or Luol Deng off the team without sending out something of value. Still, I felt Magic Johnson and Rob Lowe Pelinka sold low on Russell though to their credit, they apparently tried dangling an unprotected first round draft pick (presumably 2020) to teams with cap space to take Mozgov or Deng so they didn't just say, "**** D'ANGELO," before literally kicking him out of Staples Center. The problem with that draft pick is it aims to be a late first round selection if Magic's hilariously very not secret plan of signing two superstars in 2018 comes to pass. If the Lakers end up being good by then, that draft pick just isn't as valuable as you'd want it to be to take on a shitty contract.

Anyway, the Lakers draft picks have looked good in Summer League. The Caldwell-Pope signing bumped up the grade from B to B+. I was worried about the Lakers' interest in Rajon Rondo before the KCP signing. Bringing in Rondo makes more sense now if he's willing to take the room exception (it's like $4.3 million so perhaps not). Magic and Rob didn't panic and give up the farm for Paul George. The Russell-Mozgov trade technically is an upgrade. Today, Brook Lopez is better than D'Angelo Russell (verdict is out on Russell in the future though I was a believer in his potential). Also, a Russell-Ball backcourt would have been a colossal LOL-fail on defense. I'm going to miss Nick Young. I was like one of six Lakers fans who still wanted him on the team after he played like total ass in 2015-2016. I'm glad he's getting his auto-win championship ring next season.

I predict 35 wins, give or take a few. The Lakers won 26 games last season, and they managed to improve both shooting and defense this summer. To clarify, while shooting and defense are better, they still aren't good on this team. If nothing else, ball movement will improve as both Young and Lou Williams are no longer on the team.
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Lonzo Ball got another triple double. Watch out league. The Lakers are going 74-8 this year.

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Kyrie Irving just requested a trade directly to Dan Gilbert. He apparently no longer wants to play alongside Lebron James because he wants to be the focal point of the team.

Here's the Cavs problem (specifically for this situation): Irving is under contract for three more years so instinctually, given his desire not to play second fiddle to James, the Cavs should trade James except James has a no-trade clause and is now more likely to leave next year regardless of whether Gilbert panics and trades Irving. Yikes.

Playing arm-chair General Manager (and since the Cavaliers don't currently have a General Manager), I would trade Lebron James to literally anywhere he would accept a trade ("I'm taking my talents to Oakland!"). Why? The best move is to appease Irving without trading him which means moving James at all costs. They can't play out the year like this. Even if James leaves next year, Irving would complain his way out of Cleveland anyway for being forced to play with James (curb stomping all leverage) then they'd lose two star players for nothing and/or scraps. By dealing James, the Cavs have three years to at least try to convince Irving to stay and aren't rushed into a bad deal if they're forced to trade him anyway.

The Cavs could also try blowing it up entirely. Just accruing assets for Irving and Love then letting James walk next year. They won't get fair value for a guy demanding a trade.

I hope everyone looks forward to Warriors vs Celtics next June.
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Dude, NBA is played in the West next year.

WCF is the NBA finals, and outside of some breakout performances and record breaking seasons, any team coming out of the East is just the bonus series.


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Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
« Reply #256 on: August 22, 2017, 10:48:03 PM »
So it looks like Kyrie got traded from the Cavs to the Celtics.

traded for IT, Crowder, Zizic and the Nets '18 Pick unprotected.


Who do you think made out the best in this trade?
The Warriors?
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Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
« Reply #257 on: August 22, 2017, 11:24:35 PM »
Who do you think made out the best in this trade?
The Warriors?
Ehh, Golden State was going to steamroll everyone this year regardless.

Honestly, Cleveland. They're still better than Boston, have Crowder on one of the best contracts in the league until 2020, get a new start with what will be an excellent draft pick once Lebron bolts again.

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Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
« Reply #258 on: August 23, 2017, 02:02:32 AM »
Cleveland was the real answer, GS was the obvious answer though.

Cavs vs Celtics is a season opener BTW.
gonna be an interesting one to watch.

I wonder it there will be Ex Team tensions. I know IT gonna try an prove himself. He's got to be a little hot under the collar at this trade.

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Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
« Reply #259 on: August 23, 2017, 03:50:19 AM »
I'm not a basketball fan at all, but as someone who can't help but hear about the Cavs while following the Cleveland sports media as a Browns and Indians fan it seems like a pretty damn good haul considering their lack of leverage due to Irving publicly demanding to be traded.
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Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
« Reply #260 on: August 23, 2017, 04:48:19 PM »
They actually got a great deal, in comparison to what was traded for Jimmy Butler and especially for Paul George.
That is of course if IT's hip isn't isn't fucked from the injury still.
And assuming that the Nets are terrible again this year, since they got that unprotected pick too.

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Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
« Reply #261 on: August 23, 2017, 07:21:01 PM »
When one of your superstars demands a trade and you get another superstar in the exchange, you win.  I'm shocked the Cavaliers were able to get that much.
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Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
« Reply #262 on: August 23, 2017, 08:13:06 PM »
I'm surprised Cleveland got that much from Danny Ainge of all people, the grandmaster of decisively winning trades. Time will tell if this trade is as bad for Boston as it looks on paper. Really, it isn't terrible. Give the edge to the Cavs even though the Celtics didn't get swindled. They got the best player out of deal even if the team got worse. Personally, the only bad move here was including Jae Crowder because he vastly outplays his contract. I think Ainge could have wore down Koby Altman regarding Crowder.

Otherwise, I don't think Boston planned on re-signing Isaiah Thomas for the max contract he would have demanded given his hip injury and bone abnormality that caused said injury that is likely chronic. This trade puts the Celtics on a much better timeline with a younger, better player on a longer contract. They have Irving for two years or longer if he either opts in to that third year or re-signs.

And this is a win for Cleveland not just because of the assets it received. The Cavaliers are in a great position. They'll still be competitive this year, likely favorites to make it back to the Finals to lose to Golden State since Boston also got worse after this trade. Then, Cleveland can blow it up next summer while holding great assets. The Cavs have their own pick and Brooklyn's pick in 2018, and top 10 protections in 2019 and 2020 which they'll keep if they go into tank mode. They have assets to move to get more picks and okay to decent young players. Letting Thomas walk after Lebron walks gives them cap room to absorb bad contracts to accrue even more assets. Still, having assets and using them effectively are different things.

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« Reply #263 on: August 26, 2017, 12:36:18 AM »
So apparently, the Cavs weren't satisfied with Thomas' physical and are mulling the next step. They may push for an additional pick. Jeez, guys, you already won that trade and no one was even close to offering a comparative package.

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Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
« Reply #264 on: October 24, 2017, 03:13:42 AM »
Warriors finally with a deciding victory!!

I predicted the winner of every game today except for the Kings losing to the Suns... didn't see that happening.

But did ya'll see the rookie Jordan Bell? Alley-ooping to himself on a fast break, and then getting fouled in the process for an and1.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7alJLoBPYk

Between him and McGee being paired up with Dray and Curry, could be a lot of fun once the Dubs start firing on all cylinders. They showed a few glimpses of greatness tonight, but they still got some work to do, mostly on defense, but also in the turnover department.

and in other team news....
Harden almost got in a fight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGKP0EvVVBg

Mario Chalmers might be getting suspended over this one.... put his hands on the ref.

76ers won. - Simmons w/ his first triple double and Embiid also had a good game on a back2back.

Gabrielle Union revealed that Dwayne Wade like to get his salad tossed on the Sway in the Morning show this morning, subsequently, Wade has had his butt benched to the reserve unit. (totally unrelated to the salad incident)

Eric Bledsoe had tweeted that he "didn't want to be here" around the same time that his coach got fired after the Suns lost their 3rd game of the season, and 2nd game last by more than 40pts on Sunday.
They had a team meeting this morning, where they decided he was now a DNP.
Bledsoe immediately hopped on twitter to say that he wasn't referring to his team in his previous tweet, but about the hair salon he was supposedly at.
The Team management didn't believe him. Bledsoe is now up for trade and considered DNP for the Suns till that trade happens.

Oh, also Kyrie got fined $25k for telling a fan to "suck my dick"
Curry got ejected and fined (but not suspended) for throwing his mouth piece in the general direction of the Ref.
Iguodala also got fined, but not ejected
and Durant also got ejected, but not fined... all at the end of Sunday nights game in a Warriors loss.

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Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
« Reply #265 on: October 24, 2017, 11:18:37 AM »
This season is off to a chaotic start!
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« Reply #266 on: October 24, 2017, 06:03:29 PM »
I forgot to mention that Giannis (who's dad just passed away weeks before the season started) had apparently been in beast mode and is early favorite for MVP if he keeps up like this. After 4 games, he's averaging 36.8pts / 10.8reb / 5.3asst. - the Bucks are 3-1 right now.


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Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
« Reply #267 on: October 25, 2017, 10:24:49 AM »
You also forgot to mention that Steph Curry has a foot fetish.
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« Reply #268 on: October 25, 2017, 12:24:26 PM »
Was that what Aiesha had said in her interview!?

LOL.
Far less personal/embarrassing than what Gabrielle shared. LOL

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« Reply #269 on: October 25, 2017, 08:43:21 PM »
First, Ayesha Curry says that Steph has a foot fetish.

Then, Gabrielle Union says that Dwayne Wade likes his booty hole licked.

Next, Wanda Durant is going to spill the beans on how KD likes his sandwiches cut.
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Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
« Reply #270 on: October 25, 2017, 10:47:33 PM »
...this thread became a hardcore porn thread so gradually I barely noticed.
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Re: The NBA Thread: Now with only Warriors because they won the title baby!!!1
« Reply #271 on: October 26, 2017, 02:00:50 AM »
Dubs and Lakers both with a nail biter tonite!!!

whew.
Warriors need to get it together. they show some glimpses of greatness, and they shut the competition down, then they keep getting sloppy. Almost let this one get away from them.
Jordan Bell is gonna be fun this season. He (eventually) gonna get all of Javale's playtime. quote me on that ;)
Curry, Dray, Iggy, Bell and Klay might become a alt-death line-up.
with the 1st 3 feeding Bell, low post and Oops, could be what Javale was last year. Just gotta shake those rookie jitters.


I didn't see more than the end of regulation and beyond for the Lakers game, but damn... Wall gotta be ashamed. They were hyping this up all day. "Wall gonna eat Ball alive" etc etc. Apparently even Wall was talking ****... then underperformed his way to a last second failed attempt at a game winner in OT while trying to draw the 3pt foul from Ball just for a tie +1 attempt.
Good for the Lakers. I'm sure the post-game was insufferable w/ Lavar Ball on the stand though. I turned it off as soon as the game was over.

oh... and the Cavs got beat by the Nets.
Lebron tried to take over, but the Nets were just too much for them. Actually out there looking like a more than decent team. It was rumored they might be good this year... but they didn't even have their point guard. Hope the Nets can keep it interesting and don't firmly sit at the bottom of the pack for the whole season.

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« Reply #272 on: October 28, 2017, 02:14:53 PM »
Man, what a Warriors game last night.

Did anyone watch?

Beal v Dray: FIGHT.... sorta (more like cheap shot, then hug it out)
Oubre though...
long story short, I think the Wiz are gonna be short handed in their next game.

I'm thinking Beal, Markeif, and the other Wiz that jumped off the bench all get a 1 game suspension.
Oubre probably gets a multi game suspension for throwing punches

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bf0gpppXRs

he actually clocks Wall in the back of the head on his way to land 2 more on Klay.

I also think Beal will get assessed a flagrant for grabbing Draymond by the face and neck area. That's on top of the penalty from the Tech, and then being suspended a game.

after all that (being down 14 at the time) the Warriors still won. LOL

and previous to that, it seemed like the Refs refused to call fouls committed by the Wiz, even the blatant ones, but we pull out the W anyway, so it's an even sweeter victory.

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« Reply #273 on: October 29, 2017, 03:11:04 PM »
Glad my Pels got a win, but what is up with the Cavs this year? I know between Rose, Wade, and IT there's only like 1.5 good knees, but dang.
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« Reply #274 on: October 29, 2017, 05:30:15 PM »
Cavs are right where LeBron wants them... Setting up his exit from Cleveland next off-season.