Post by: NWR_Karlie on April 27, 2006, 07:24:37 AM
The new name for the console tentatively named Revolution is "Wii". Pronounced "we", the name was chosen for being easily memorised, pronounceable by people all around the world, and not needing abbreviation.
The mysterious Nintendo statement and logo are below. Expect to find out more as E3 creeps ever closer.
Introducing … Wii.
As in “we."
While the code-name “Revolution" expressed our direction, Wii represents the answer.
Wii will break down that wall that separates video game players from everybody else.
Wii will put people more in touch with their games … and each other. But you’re probably asking: What does the name mean?
Wii sounds like “we," which emphasizes this console is for everyone.
Wii can easily be remembered by people around the world, no matter what language they speak. No confusion. No need to abbreviate. Just Wii.
Wii has a distinctive “ii" spelling that symbolizes both the unique controllers and the image of people gathering to play.
And Wii, as a name and a console, brings something revolutionary to the world of video games that sets it apart from the crowd.
So that’s Wii. But now Nintendo needs you.
Because, it’s really not about you or me.
It’s about Wii.
And together, Wii will change everything.
Post by: Dasmos on April 27, 2006, 07:37:28 AM
This name stinks like wee.
EDIT: Nah, it's alright, just a little weird.
Post by: Bill Aurion on April 27, 2006, 07:37:56 AM
It’s about Wii.
And together, Wii will change everything."
This truly is a brilliant marketing line...
Post by: hudsonhawk on April 27, 2006, 07:41:47 AM
Post by: Ian Sane on April 27, 2006, 07:47:18 AM
Post by: joeposh on April 27, 2006, 07:47:59 AM
On the plus side, maybe this new name indicates an increased focus on community interaction in gaming?
Post by: ShyGuy on April 27, 2006, 07:51:35 AM
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on April 27, 2006, 07:51:43 AM
Seriously, though. I see the cleverness. It takes a little too much effort to explain the cleverness, though. Marketingwise, a simple "cool" name is probably easier to work with. This is nothing like what I expected.
Post by: Jiggy37 on April 27, 2006, 07:52:39 AM
Ugh. Revolution was infinitely better. I'll just hope that massive fan outrage in English-speaking countries convinces them to change their minds before they start producing the system.
Post by: BigJim on April 27, 2006, 07:52:50 AM
It looks like it's pronounced "Why" and that is my feeling exactly.
Revolution was perfect for what they wanted to accomplish with the system.
Post by: mantidor on April 27, 2006, 07:53:34 AM
Post by: Toruresu on April 27, 2006, 07:54:43 AM
The jokes write themselves!!!
I also miss my Ultra 64 system...
Post by: PIAC on April 27, 2006, 08:00:33 AM
Nintendo Wii.
::Earth laughs::
Post by: Caliban on April 27, 2006, 08:02:39 AM
Post by: ShyGuy on April 27, 2006, 08:04:40 AM
Post by: Caliban on April 27, 2006, 08:09:12 AM
I even got to see a vid of Wii but now it's not even loading. I don't mind the name btw, I actually find it quite funny and quirky good.
Post by: Mario on April 27, 2006, 08:17:40 AM
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Pronounced "we", the name was chosen for being easily memorised, pronounceable by people all around the world, and not needing abbreviation.
Well, if they plan on selling 1 billion systems, and making this system a household term around the globe, then this will be effective, however it could be it's own barrier in reaching that success. Unless there's something really huge shown at E3 that makes everyone have to have a Rev... er... Wii, regardless, then everything will be fine. However, the public perception in English speaking markets is going to be an uphill battle, just when we thought everything was going right.
This new name makes "Revolution" seem too uptight and serious. I like the style of the new name, the simplicity and the fact it's not generic, but not the name they chose to fit that.
Wii...............
If the new Pikmin is called Pikmin Thwii, it'll be all worth it
Post by: Caliban on April 27, 2006, 08:20:03 AM
Post by: archioverload on April 27, 2006, 08:20:35 AM
Yeah, that fact that PlayStation has had to be abbreviated has just KILLED IT worldwide!
Post by: Donutt007 on April 27, 2006, 08:22:29 AM
" Introducing … Wii.
As in “we."
While the code-name “Revolution" expressed our direction, Wii represents the answer. "
Now, that may not mean that they are going to change the name of the console....it could be something else. Even on their website all it says is revolution has a new name...does that mean that the name is changed or that Wii is a new revolution....of course then I read it more and it says "wii as a name and a console" and get bummed out again. But the fact that on their website it still says revolution just gives me too much hope...maybe I should just wait til E3...sigh.
Post by: archioverload on April 27, 2006, 08:23:38 AM
This is just massively confusing. Esp. American nongamers, who is allegedly the target market for this.
Stupid thing reminds me of the "Knights of Ni."
Post by: ShyGuy on April 27, 2006, 08:24:32 AM
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Post by: Jonnyboy117 on April 27, 2006, 08:26:58 AM
Post by: Donutt007 on April 27, 2006, 08:31:10 AM
TrialClix
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 27, 2006, 08:31:56 AM
I suggest a new forum filter, so that everytime someone uses the word "we" it will automatically be replaced witht the name "Wii".
It will be a little annoying at first, but you will get more annoyed by it later!!
Post by: trip1eX on April 27, 2006, 08:32:53 AM
Wii is pretty good. The spelling looks 'exotic.' It can be made fun of pretty easy too, but I think it will grow on me.
Post by: Plugabugz on April 27, 2006, 08:36:37 AM
Post by: thame^ on April 27, 2006, 08:37:39 AM
Post by: Donutt007 on April 27, 2006, 08:40:34 AM
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Originally posted by: thame^
Apple only uses a single lowercase 'i' in its products' names. That makes Nintendo twice as good as Apple, imagine that!
Nintendo equals more gooder
Funny how the controller kinda looks like an iPod shuffle, and the whole system as the sleek Apple look...wouldn't that be crazy is Steve Jobs had his hands in Nintendo...
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 27, 2006, 08:40:38 AM
Wii Are The Champions!!Honestly I liked the name Revolution right from the moment I heard it, but maybe this one will grow on me over time.
Post by: NWR_Lindy on April 27, 2006, 08:40:43 AM
Terrible name, but I can see the logic behind it:
1) Simple
2) Communicates the fact that it's a system designed around user interaction (looks like 2 people in the name, also the play on words with wii/we)
3) Different from the name of any other console ever made, like Wii is different from everything else out there
4) Translates across all languages, like they want their console to do
Still, all of this logic doesn't stop it from not sounding cool in the slightest.
Post by: 18 Days on April 27, 2006, 08:47:07 AM
Nah.
Post by: MaryJane on April 27, 2006, 08:49:43 AM
I'd prefer why-e, we is just so i dunno. When you say it together, the Nintedo Wii. sounds like Nintendo-y, or I LOVE HALO 2. Why not stick with Revolution.
Or they want simple? How about the Nintendo 1. or Nintendo Im (pronounced like him i don't know i can't get too excited telling all my friends who think that Nintendo is for kids.
hey guess what guys (all 20+ (we got one youngin) I just got the Nintendo Weeeeeee! first question: 1. why are you saying weeee? is it that much fun? response: no that the name. 2. are you a homo? response: since the last time i checked i was still straight. 3. when does the ps3 come out? response: f u
Post by: Knoxxville on April 27, 2006, 08:49:53 AM
....I have a stomach ache.....WHY Nintendo, WHYYYYYYY?!?
This cannot be......AARGH!!!
Post by: NW on April 27, 2006, 08:50:12 AM
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Post by: Zach on April 27, 2006, 09:02:35 AM
What is up, this really shows that they are not in touch with the west. I will still buy it, but what casual gamer is going to get over the tiku tiku tiku! image when its called the Wii??
Another three letter name that I think would probably sell better is "Nintendo WTF" It is an appreviation, thus making it not "simple" but it would probably sell better.
Post by: Smash_Brother on April 27, 2006, 09:05:43 AM
There just AREN'T any F*CKING words...
Post by: capamerica on April 27, 2006, 09:09:25 AM
They have been doing so much to get rid of their tiku tiku tiku! image and they they toss this name on the Revolution.
I think every Nintendo fan out there needs to email Nintendo and ask what the f*ck are they thinking and that they need to change the name back to Revolution or to something less childish.
All I can think of when I see that name is a baby babbleing.
Post by: ryaninc on April 27, 2006, 09:13:50 AM
"So I was playing my Wii this weekend..."
"You guys gotta try the new game I got on my Wii!"
...right. This totally can't be good. :-)
Post by: Zach on April 27, 2006, 09:19:21 AM
I just cant imagine Reggie at E3 talking about the Nintendo Wii.
Post by: Mario on April 27, 2006, 09:21:04 AM
Post by: Hostile Creation on April 27, 2006, 09:23:32 AM
Internet exploding with anger. "This name can only make my already miniscule penis seem smaller! Hate U Nintendo!"
I'm not sure what to think about it. I do know that I'm feeling genuine hatred for the industry and every gamer out there, because why the f*ck are you going to take something so seriously. Games aren't even about having fun any more, and these reactions manifest that fact.
I think it's ridiculous, but I like it.
Post by: capamerica on April 27, 2006, 09:25:54 AM
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Post by: pyrokamileon on April 27, 2006, 09:29:25 AM
you thought telling someone that they should totally come by and check your new Wii sounded kinda fun? well it'll sound even better if it were dubbed Wiiwii instead of dumb ol' simple three lettered Wii!
SERIOUSLY THOUGH NO ONE BETTER EVEN CONSIDER WRITING THEM THAT... they might like the idea
I still think this is a joke, I mean I know it's way past April Fools day but then again planetgamecube never did come through with a good joke, did they...
Post by: Rize on April 27, 2006, 09:29:46 AM
Post by: couchmonkey on April 27, 2006, 09:39:23 AM
Edit: This post is lacking in...meaning. The name is definitely NOT cool, but remember guys, Nintendo is genuinely attempting to attract a totally different crowd than Sony or Microsoft. That crowd is not going to care if the name sounds cool. If you think Nintendo's plan is stupid, that's fine, but you have to admit that in the context of that plan, having an uncool sounding name doesn't matter.
Post by: mrjack203 on April 27, 2006, 09:39:32 AM
Nintendo, do you really want to succeed in this market? I mean you had everything going for you and out of nowhere you come up with Wii and throw away the coolest name EVER for a console. I just don't get it...
Post by: KnowsNothing on April 27, 2006, 09:39:51 AM
So yeah, pretty retarded name.
Although I agree with mario, after the original BUH? going through my brain, I though "Well now Revolution seems so boring and uptight." I don't think any name can please me now =D
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 27, 2006, 09:43:01 AM
Wii = Y = WHY THE FOKK #$^$#@%#%&^*(^%@#
Also,
Wii = Dubaya 2. Proof that NINTENDO STRATEGERY Wiins
Wii = name thingy that breaks all those other startup Rev website names
Wii = !!M = MUTHER F%#^%#$%@%@!#
GameBoy Advance successor to be named "P-Wii" (portable)
www.planetwii.com = www.planetds.com = Planet Dead Systems
Wii = made of fail and internet
Frankly, it's pleasant to look at, but not exactly seamless for use in speaking. "WE games" "WE controller" "WE website" "Nintendo WE"
I agree "WTF" works better.
~~~~~
I think I understand now. The purpose is to just be a product name/code. Nintendo wanted to make the name so garbage-off-the-wall, that we'll all resort to saying "Nintendo" again, like how we just drop the "Entertainment System" when we refer to the NES.
~~~~~
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Originally posted by: couchmonkey
I tend to agree with Hostile Creation. The name is of no importance. When you see the graphics, you will say "Wii!"
Edit: This post is lacking in...meaning. The name is definitely NOT cool, but remember guys, Nintendo is genuinely attempting to attract a totally different crowd than Sony or Microsoft. That crowd is not going to care if the name sounds cool. If you think Nintendo's plan is stupid, that's fine, but you have to admit that in the context of that plan, having an uncool sounding name doesn't matter.
AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH
Nintendo is definitely catering to the "non-crowd" aka the "non-consumer" aka no one's gonna buy it for sure.
GLAD THIS BOMB WASN'T DROPPED AT GDC
Post by: Robageejammin on April 27, 2006, 09:47:33 AM
I seriously thought this was a joke until i had checked every single gaming site anywhere.....
Wii....
are you sure this isnt a joint worldwide late april fools joke???? Ive given it a minute to sink in....and nothing....nothing like when i gave the controller a minute to sink in...with that I came to my senses....but....Wii? Seriously someone has to change this NOW before it gets any further.
Tomorrow, Reggie will be at the Nintendo World Store signing autographs. I urge everyone, including myself, in the New York area to hunt him down and ask him....why?...or should i say...Wii?
Ill see you there...
Wii? no...just no....
Post by: KnowsNothing on April 27, 2006, 09:48:21 AM
Post by: Michael8983 on April 27, 2006, 09:51:26 AM
"revolution" sounds like too much of a gamer name while "wii" sounds and looks like something Apple would come up with. It's simple, it's to the point, it will attract a wider audience.
It might not be as cool but Nintendo is out to prove that the "cool" factor doesn't have to be the deciding factor.
Post by: wandering on April 27, 2006, 09:52:46 AM
Not that I want Nintendo to stop, mind you. The fact that they continue to make crazy decisions in the face of reason is what I love about them. This is the company that hired Miyamoto for no good reason, other than the fact that he seemed creative. Doing crazy sh*t is their lifeblood, and trying to convince them to stop is like trying to convince Don Quixote that the windmills aren't giants.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 27, 2006, 09:56:28 AM
c'mon, it virtually has no consanants.
Post by: KnowsNothing on April 27, 2006, 09:56:44 AM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 27, 2006, 09:58:54 AM
"For who?"
"Wii"
"Us?"
"No"
"WTF ARE YOU SAYING"
=DDDDDDDDDDD
Post by: couchmonkey on April 27, 2006, 10:06:37 AM
The name is quickly growing on me, but for the record I agree that it's a totally horrible name if you're trying to attract the typical gamer.
Post by: decoyman on April 27, 2006, 10:07:49 AM
Speech impediment NOOOoooooo
Post by: Jonnyboy117 on April 27, 2006, 10:12:39 AM
Post by: Nosferat2 on April 27, 2006, 10:21:20 AM
Its obvious to me now that everyone at Nintendo are a bunch of Japanese queeers. No way would a striaght american come up with a name like Wii. Im sorry but 20 years of loyalty shall now cease. i will buy( maybe rent one if i can) a Revolution only to Play Metriod Prime 3. Then i will return the Rev back to the store and never look at Nintendo again.
As soon as revolution report changes its name to Wiireport i will no longer be a memebr here.
First no HD, then underpowering it, and now a sissy azz name. Jesus. its amazing how one company can screw something that had so much potential up.
Im outta here,
peace Nosferatu
When this site becomes wiiplanet or planetwii, im outta here too. Nintendo is just a big azz joke now. Mark my words, all the love the Rev has been getting from Media and magazines will stop after this announcement. Wait and see.
Post by: Hostile Creation on April 27, 2006, 10:24:47 AM
Post by: Athrun Zala on April 27, 2006, 10:25:57 AM
really, whate where they thinking?
being a spanish speaker, i can say that it sounds as bad in spanish as it does in english........god, what an awful name o_oU
Post by: thame^ on April 27, 2006, 10:29:41 AM
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Originally posted by: Nosferat2
This is taken from my post on Revolution Report:
Its obvious to me now that everyone at Nintendo are a bunch of Japanese queeers. No way would a striaght american come up with a name like Wii. Im sorry but 20 years of loyalty shall now cease. i will buy( maybe rent one if i can) a Revolution only to Play Metriod Prime 3. Then i will return the Rev back to the store and never look at Nintendo again.
As soon as revolution report changes its name to Wiireport i will no longer be a memebr here.
First no HD, then underpowering it, and now a sissy azz name. Jesus. its amazing how one company can screw something that had so much potential up.
Im outta here,
peace Nosferatu
When this site becomes wiiplanet or planetwii, im outta here too. Nintendo is just a big azz joke now. Mark my words, all the love the Rev has been getting from Media and magazines will stop after this announcement. Wait and see.
NINTENDO IS DOOOOOOOOOOMED BECAUSE I DISLIKE THE NAME OF ITS OTHERWISE INCREDIBLE NEXT CONSOLE!!!1~
drama epicentre
Post by: Karl Castaneda #2 on April 27, 2006, 10:40:14 AM
Post by: Sir_Stabbalot on April 27, 2006, 10:41:36 AM
But now. "Wii"? There goes ANY CHANCE of main stream acceptance. "Hey guys, wanna play <insert game here> on my Wii?" Nintendo had all the right ideas, but then they do this. Why?
I hope this is a joke...
Post by: davidctaylor on April 27, 2006, 10:46:25 AM
Post by: RickPowers on April 27, 2006, 10:46:48 AM
Wii?
Seriously, explain all the rationale behind the choice all you want, but that name is just a terrible, terrible fit for the American market. I can only assume that the name was picked by NCL and that NOA had nothing to do with it.
I'm absolutely stunned, shocked, and dumbfounded.
Official prediction: Gamers everywhere will go back to saying "I'm playing Nintendo." In that light, maybe this is a good move. But only in that light. In every other light, this is bowling-shoe ugly.
Post by: TMW on April 27, 2006, 10:50:27 AM
Still. Urination. Not good.
Post by: NWR_Karlie on April 27, 2006, 07:24:37 AM
The new name for the console previously known as Revolution is "Wii". Pronounced "we", the name was chosen for being easily memorised, pronounceable by people all around the world, and not needing abbreviation.
According to Game Informer's interview with Matt Atwood, Public Relations Manager for Nintendo of America (NOA), the name was chosen by a committee which included employees of both NOA and Nintendo Co. Ltd. in Japan. Atwood also reiterates that the system will be launching in the fourth quarter of this year: "The system comes at the end of 2006 and we’re pretty confident and comfortable."
The mysterious Nintendo statement and logo are below. Expect to find out more as E3 creeps ever closer.
Introducing … Wii.
As in “we."
While the code-name “Revolution" expressed our direction, Wii represents the answer.
Wii will break down that wall that separates video game players from everybody else.
Wii will put people more in touch with their games … and each other. But you’re probably asking: What does the name mean?
Wii sounds like “we," which emphasizes this console is for everyone.
Wii can easily be remembered by people around the world, no matter what language they speak. No confusion. No need to abbreviate. Just Wii.
Wii has a distinctive “ii" spelling that symbolizes both the unique controllers and the image of people gathering to play.
And Wii, as a name and a console, brings something revolutionary to the world of video games that sets it apart from the crowd.
So that’s Wii. But now Nintendo needs you.
Because, it’s really not about you or me.
It’s about Wii.
And together, Wii will change everything.
Post by: hudsonhawk on April 27, 2006, 11:02:32 AM
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Post by: Michael8983 on April 27, 2006, 11:08:45 AM
Post by: Epitaph on April 27, 2006, 11:10:18 AM
Post by: Karl Castaneda #2 on April 27, 2006, 11:12:55 AM
This is dumb. I really hate it. It better be a joke. Please please please be a joke.
That is all.
Post by: Nephilim on April 27, 2006, 11:19:03 AM
were that info is from, nice for sourcing them :P
*shakes*
its a bad name, but I understand the i stands for the control
but two i's? kinda confusing
Post by: Ian Sane on April 27, 2006, 11:19:26 AM
Sorry. I was long overdue for a Wii joke.
My thought: uh yeah this names sucks.
Post by: KnowsNothing on April 27, 2006, 11:22:47 AM
I am being completely serious here. The name is hilarious, and I've fallen in love with its sheer stupidity.
Post by: Athrun Zala on April 27, 2006, 11:24:33 AM
Sounds bad in english, sounds bad in spanish, me is guessing it sounds bad in every language ¬¬
if they wanted to keep it short and not use Revolution, they could've called it Nintendo Rev.....
Post by: couchmonkey on April 27, 2006, 11:25:52 AM
Post by: ShyGuy on April 27, 2006, 11:25:56 AM
In summary:
Name is teh poo
Petition is needed
Acronyms? Animal Crossing Wii-ld World? Castlevania: Weird Igloo Ice
Post by: Jiggy37 on April 27, 2006, 11:26:44 AM
Awful name, it's like they thought that the DS was doing too well for comfort and decided they needed to assure that in the home console realm they'd stay firmly behind Sony.
Edit: Of course I'll still buy it, but only because I can't say no to SSB, Pokemon, and the virtual console. If those three things were taken out of the picture, I would have considered not buying any of the three next-gen home consoles and going portable-only.
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Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on April 27, 2006, 11:41:48 AM
What in the World?!?!?
You give it an awesome codename, and then choose the worst final name in history, why?
Post by: RickPowers on April 27, 2006, 11:42:50 AM
Wii?
Seriously, explain all the rationale behind the choice all you want, but that name is just a terrible, terrible fit for the American market. I can only assume that the name was picked by NCL and that NOA had nothing to do with it.
I'm absolutely stunned, shocked, and dumbfounded.
Official prediction: Gamers everywhere will go back to saying "I'm playing Nintendo." In that light, maybe this is a good move. But only in that light. In every other light, this is bowling-shoe ugly.
Post by: Artimus on April 27, 2006, 11:52:05 AM
I guess Ian is right, Nintendo refuses to actually do things right. They had to go and shoot their faces off.
This system WILL flop with this name. It has to be changed, or it's over.
MORONS. Get real, Reggie, this is a bigger mistake than any in Nintendo's history.
Post by: BigJim on April 27, 2006, 11:52:38 AM
I said it immediately reminded me of World War 2... not a good first impression.
And it also looks like it's pronounced "Why" which is exactly what I am asking.
In short... teh suck.
Post by: vudu on April 27, 2006, 11:55:37 AM
Well you know, Wii all want to change the world
You tell me that it's evolution
Well you know, Wii all want to change the world
But when you talk about destruction
Don't you know you can count me out
Don't you know it's gonna be alright
Post by: King of Twitch on April 27, 2006, 11:59:09 AM
l/uhjyj
There... there's the name of the next DS, let's call it a day.
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on April 27, 2006, 11:59:41 AM
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Post by: Hostile Creation on April 27, 2006, 12:08:32 PM
I like the name. I think it's fun, and kind of silly, and unique. My friends and I will definitely have fun messing around with the name. If you can have fun with a game console's name, you're on the right track, I'd say.
But there's an obviously negative feeling overall. Which I think is ridiculous, get over your "cool" video games and delusions of grandeur and realize you're a bunch of nerds who wouldn't know "cool" if it went down on you. But still, gotta take that into account, because as unfortunate as it is, these are the people who will be buying it.
Humanity's in such a pitiful state. Even our fun has to be serious
Post by: Karl Castaneda #2 on April 27, 2006, 12:11:00 PM
Post by: Epitaph on April 27, 2006, 12:12:36 PM
Its only when you say it that it really just doesnt work. Quite frankly I thnk I will call it w2, W2 doesnt seem to bad. But in terms of how it looks and how the flash animation was pulled off its not too bad.
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on April 27, 2006, 12:12:36 PM
Post by: MegaByte on April 27, 2006, 12:14:07 PM
WII
and you get
WTF
And that about sums up my thoughts on it.
People may compare this to the initials reactions to the controller, but it's not the same. For me, the controller idea was redeemed when they showed the video of ideas for games based around it (and hopefully the real games will complete the redemption). In this case, there really isn't anything to redeem it. If they at least changed the logo to better portray what the i's represent (controllers, people, etc) then that would help (because I doubt most people are going to figure that out on their own), but that still doesn't change the fact that it sounds dumb.
I know they warned that the name would change, but I don't really understand it... they had such a powerful force going behind their codename, there really wasn't a good reason to change it.
"Wii" doesn't seem "fresh," it seems like the old Nintendo "you will like it because we say you will."
It's also really close to "Wifi," sure to cause all sorts of typo problems...
Also, it sounds really similar to Intel's VIIV (pronouced with a long i sound) initiative, which has not only already flopped, but doesn't even have the same pronunciation despite the two i's...
"By letting the gaming community vent now about the name, they will be less distracted as launch titles for the system are announced and initial reports about what it's like to play the games begin to come in." - Perrin Kaplan
Seriously, if they were expecting that everyone would think it was horrible, then why did they go with it?
Post by: couchmonkey on April 27, 2006, 12:25:34 PM
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Originally posted by: MegaByte
People may compare this to the initials reactions to the controller, but it's not the same. For me, the controller idea was redeemed when they showed the video of ideas for games based around it (and hopefully the real games will complete the redemption). In this case, there really isn't anything to redeem it. If they at least changed the logo to better portray what the i's represent (controllers, people, etc) then that would help.
You haven't seen the video yet, have you?
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Originally posted by: ViewtifulGamer
We will not be PlanetWii.com. We're currently discussing our options.
Too bad...when the Wiivolution comes, you'll be left behind.
Edit: Having seen the video myself, I have a feeling Nintendo's marketing departments are probably strewn with concepts using the i's as people (and controllers). People who think Nintendo hasn't thought this out better think again. And if you think that they're going to change the name due to gamer pressure...think again twice.
Post by: ruby_onix on April 27, 2006, 12:28:11 PM
O_O
Horrible. Absolutely horrible. At first glance, I thought it was supposed to be pronounced as the Nintendo "Why?" (as in, Why Bother). But the Nintendo Wee? That's even worse.
I would say this is possibly the worst decision Nintendo has ever made. Worse than carts. Worse than the purple lunchbox Cube design. It doesn't even fit the appearance of the system (at least "StarCube" matched the overall "gayness" of the Cube's design, and then "GameCube" improved on it).
I think Nintendo's only hope right now is to call it the "WII" or the "W2".
Post by: MegaByte on April 27, 2006, 12:33:27 PM
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Originally posted by: couchmonkey
You haven't seen the video yet, have you?
Yes, I have. That's how I came up with that point. People aren't going to see the video when they see the logo, they're just going to see 3 letters.
Incidentally, the use of i's is similar to the logo redesign of my old ISP (that I worked for)
We hated that one too, and the designer also had to explain what it meant.
Post by: ShyGuy on April 27, 2006, 12:33:37 PM
No they have this crap:
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Because, it’s really not about you or me. It's about Wii. And together, Wii will change everything.
I'm not drinking the kool-aid you dirty hippies!
(please note: post is not serious)
Post by: miedo on April 27, 2006, 12:33:39 PM
I'm waiting for the Sony fanboys to hit Nintendo's head with their boomerang controller.
Post by: nemo_83 on April 27, 2006, 12:37:12 PM
Post by: couchmonkey on April 27, 2006, 12:39:12 PM
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Originally posted by: MegaByteQuote
Originally posted by: couchmonkey
You haven't seen the video yet, have you?
Yes, I have. That's how I came up with that point. People aren't going to see the video when they see the logo, they're just going to see 3 letters.
Well, I believe Nintendo is going to use variations on the i's all the time to make it clear. I'll even go so far as to predict that every telivision spot will involve animated i's, which should make the concept pretty clear. (Edit - see: Pixar lamp) It's a name and a logo in one. Maybe I'm nuts though.
Post by: nemo_83 on April 27, 2006, 12:42:08 PM
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Post by: wandering on April 27, 2006, 12:47:53 PM
You know, if honed properly, I think this power of Wii could be an effective weapon. Like the world's funniest joke the allies used to defeat the Germans.
Post by: couchmonkey on April 27, 2006, 12:51:18 PM
(Edit: wiipedia is taken, predictably, and Nintendo itself seems to own wiiworld.com)
Post by: Michael8983 on April 27, 2006, 12:52:52 PM
There have been revolutions in the past, but this is the very first wii.
It may seem odd at the moment but who would have thought ten years ago we'd someday be going around talking about "Google-ing" each other and playing with our "iPods".
Of course it will really all come down to the marketting.
The wii movie on Nintendo's site is awesome. It's sleek and cool - not at all childish. Like an Apple commercial but with a lttle Nintendo flare added. If Nintendo can get that and other ads like it out to the mainstream and get them all talking about the "wii" - it could set the seeds for a true revolution.
Post by: ruby_onix on April 27, 2006, 01:00:38 PM
"Waggle Wand" seems to be the next most popular name for it.
It fits now, unfortunately.
Post by: Hostile Creation on April 27, 2006, 01:02:51 PM
Post by: Jiggy37 on April 27, 2006, 01:05:41 PM
QuoteI agree, but the thing is that even then, they could have just called it "the Nintendo" and been better off for it.
Originally posted by: RickPowers
Official prediction: Gamers everywhere will go back to saying "I'm playing Nintendo." In that light, maybe this is a good move. But only in that light. In every other light, this is bowling-shoe ugly.
Post by: MegaByte on April 27, 2006, 01:06:38 PM
Game Informer has an interesting interview regarding the new name. Their last question wins:
GI: (laughs) The name Wii makes me think of peeing! You said you have to hold the DS like a book for Brain Age, I hate to know how I’m supposed to hold the Wii controller.
Post by: stevey on April 27, 2006, 01:08:27 PM
Post by: Ian Sane on April 27, 2006, 01:10:55 PM
Post by: Jin-X on April 27, 2006, 01:17:48 PM
Who didn't like Revolution? It was perfect, in Japan it's not going to matter and that's why I bet this was NCL's doing. I hope NOA was/is fighting this and they just broke it before E3 to show NCL how unbelievably stupid this is. They can call this in Japan, but here it needs to stay the Revolution.
Post by: Ian Sane on April 27, 2006, 01:18:37 PM
It's also kind of like the Seinfeld episode where Jerry is on the Today Show and is trying to just keep on topic and the interviewer keeps bringing up his puffy shirt.
Maybe if every interviewer spends the whole time making fun of the name Nintendo will get a clue.
Post by: Michael8983 on April 27, 2006, 01:19:04 PM
Post by: wandering on April 27, 2006, 01:21:34 PM
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I'm thinking that maybe if it wasn't just one syllable it would work better. What if they went with something like WiiMachine? Do you think iPod would catch on if it was just i? Ignoring the pee issue there's the issue with "we" mangling up our speech. But if it's WiiMachine or WiiTube or WiiPad or WiiBot or something like that it's more comfortable to say as a noun. And then it sounds more like it's "we" instead of "wee". They can use the same marketing "Wii will rock you" strategy as well.
Oh, I'm already going to be reffering to the system as the wii machine from now on (thanks to noa_rufus). But I'm not sure that that or any of your other examples would work well as an official name...they just sound kind of strange in that context.
Maybe Wii Entertainment System...
Post by: Guitar Smasher on April 27, 2006, 01:37:02 PM
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Originally posted by: Hostile Creation
Wiimote, obviously.
That's only half wiitarded.
Post by: Michael8983 on April 27, 2006, 01:41:47 PM
Post by: Guitar Smasher on April 27, 2006, 01:42:53 PM
Post by: Shecky on April 27, 2006, 02:06:13 PM
Well I'll give them that the name is universal... it universally sucks.
NCL probably picked this name (despite any PR suggesting otherwise).
I mean the Japanese language has all these short sounds, what is this in Japanese?
Post by: RickPowers on April 27, 2006, 02:08:18 PM
Note the following quote from the interview ...
"Once you touch the Revolution, this will make more sense."
He didn't say Wii ... because he KNEW what the response would be. When you have to dance around and watch your wording, you've made a terrible decision.
Post by: ruby_onix on April 27, 2006, 02:10:24 PM
All right, this place must be hot. They don't need a big ad, or even correct spelling.
Post by: Artimus on April 27, 2006, 02:27:05 PM
Pod = word
Google = variant of googol, which suits a search enginge perfectly
Yahoo = word
Wii is not a word. Pod, Google and Yahoo are not synonyms for small, pee and penis. Nintendo knows this is bad and they know it's a mistake. SO WHY ARE THEY DOING IT?
Ugh, months of building good news and it all falls apart two weeks before E3. UGH. I hate Nintendo for this, HATE them.
And I have a suggestion for a new site name: PlanetPS360.
EDIT: Not to mention Amazon and Virgin are ALSO words. And Napster sounds like Rapster and, again, doesn't mean piss.
Post by: Ian Sane on April 27, 2006, 02:32:32 PM
'Once you touch the Revolution, this will make more sense.'
He didn't say Wii ... because he KNEW what the response would be. When you have to dance around and watch your wording, you've made a terrible decision."
I didn't even notice that. That's hilarious.
I can always tell when a Nintendo rep obviously doesn't like what he's talking about. The wording is usually more stiff. You can tell they're spouting off what their boss told them to. There's a lot of canned answers and repetition. Case in point when they were talking about the horrible DS launch lineup the vibe those interviews gave off is the same vibe I get for this one. But when a rep is talking about Twilight Princess or their new Wi-Fi strategy it seems more legitimate. The answers seem more casual and there's more enthusiasm. It is always easier to talk about something you yourself are interested in. As a wrestling fan it has become obvious to me when someone actually likes what they're talking about and when someone is being a shill.
Post by: Jonnyboy117 on April 27, 2006, 02:33:24 PM
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Originally posted by: Hostile Creation
Wiimote, obviously.
Sounds like a baby trying to say "remote".
Post by: Jensen on April 27, 2006, 02:34:26 PM
Then when I saw it was the Rev's name, I thought of that stupid Intel viiv thing. If the Revolution had an Intel CPU it could be called the wiiviiv
Post by: Artimus on April 27, 2006, 02:39:16 PM
NINTENDO SUCKS.
Ian was right...
Post by: NW on April 27, 2006, 02:39:41 PM
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Originally posted by: Shecky
I mean the Japanese language has all these short sounds, what is this in Japanese?
"We"
a = "ah" e = "a" i = "e" o = "oh" u = "ooh"
I dislike the name. It sounds like they took the f out of wifi and just went with that. For a company that wants to promote themselves to non-gamers and casual gamers, using a name that would be better used for a cartoon character seems to be the wrong choice. I've seen some "at least it's more original than XBox or PS3!" comments around the net, but at least those names didn't sound so...not cool.
There's also the "IT'S JUST A NAME!" crowd. Of course it's just a name, and a name means everything in the market. You're going to buy the Wii because you already know how cool it's going to be. The non-gamers/casual gamers will look at the name and not know what to think. I'm really hoping that they'll switch it back to the Revolution, or at least some other small name that isn't as out there as Wii. (There's AWESOME out there, and "wtf?" out there. In this case, it's the latter.)
Also as of now, I have dubbed the console the Lil' NW, for it is the Nintendo Wii.
Post by: Cap on April 27, 2006, 02:49:24 PM
"wii" all agree that the name sucks.
Post by: cubist on April 27, 2006, 02:55:18 PM
Well, there goes the shedding of the I LOVE HALO 2 image...it is simply going to be near impossible. However, maybe after a week, WII will all be singing praises of WII. WTF am I talking about.
Post by: Bill Aurion on April 27, 2006, 02:59:43 PM
If anyone somehow uses this, I don't think I could even type up a response...I'd be too busy laughing at the person who said such a stupid thing...
Post by: Shecky on April 27, 2006, 03:03:30 PM
Post by: Guitar Smasher on April 27, 2006, 03:13:38 PM
Post by: obscureownership on April 27, 2006, 03:16:42 PM
But I guess that doesn't matter just so long as you look extremely manly to everyone, right?
Post by: JonLeung on April 27, 2006, 03:18:07 PM
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Originally posted by: Shecky
Heh, should have just dropped the W and called it the "Nintendo E" (the E is for Everyone)
When you say it straight out, "Nintendo Wii" doesn't sound much different from Nintendo-E, actually.
"We are the knights who play Wii"...heh heh...
Now maybe it's because I wasted my work day reading all the angry responses on revolutionreport.com (I much prefer here, but I can't access it at work...stupid WebSense) that I'm tired of all the hating and am actually accepting the name. (Not like we have a choice.)
In comparison, "PlayStation" is childish (come on, it's a station for play, think about it, say it like two words over and over and you'll agree) and "Xbox" is either something sexual or so "X-treme" that it's such a parody of itself. If you think "wee" is sexual you're probably a six-year-old. "Hee hee, he's playing with his Wii!" Yeah, shut up.
Yeah, Wii wouldn't have been a name I'd chosen myself. I'm sure everyone got used to the "Revolution" but I really think all this hating is really a waste of time an energy. Go throw it into a petition, see if that makes a difference. I doubt it.
If Wii affects perception, so be it. But everyone's going to call Nintendo consoles "Nintendo" anyway and I'm sure it's still about the games and how to play them and the name of it doesn't change it.
I'm going to E3 myself in less than two weeks and I will gladly play with some Wii.
Post by: Hostile Creation on April 27, 2006, 03:33:08 PM
Are you serious? Cuz if so, I don't even know how to respond.
It's like, if I named my child Orange, and my parents and wife and friends hated my child because it was named Orange. It's stupid, senseless, and immature.
As good ol' Billy once said:
"What's in a name? That which we call a rose by any other name would smell as sweet."
So smell the friggin Wiis.
Post by: Jin-X on April 27, 2006, 03:33:28 PM
"But I guess that doesn't matter just so long as you look extremely manly to everyone, right?"
Yes in the US thats very important and will hurt the Revolution, because like I said, this isn't about us, wii'll get it whatever its called, but this is a big image problem that has a very good chance of hurting sales where as the name Revolution doesn't.
Post by: mantidor on April 27, 2006, 03:35:04 PM
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Originally posted by: obscureownership
Wow, that's different. Anyhow, I'm not disappointed in the name, so much as the community reaction here. Let me lay down a fact about marketing for you guys: it doesn't matter if the name is terrible, irritating, and stupid. The most important part about it is that it's easy to remember. If it gets any attention at all, it's done it's job extremely wiill.
But I guess that doesn't matter just so long as you look extremely manly to everyone, right?
"nigga" is easy to remember, "fag" is even easier to remember, will you name a product like that? will you really? yes Im exagerating of course, wii isnt as bad as those, but I think you get my point
Im still trying to wrap my head around the name,
They say its universal, but I dont see that, "W" isnt exactly an universal letter or sound, at least not here, W is a foreign letter and sound hardly seen in any spanish word, maybe "K" would be better, thats an universal sound, "Kii", I like that a lot more.
After that they contradict themselves and say it stands for "we" which is an english pronoun that half the world doesnt know or use.
But the plural in the flash is interesting, "controllers", does it mean wii get two controllers? does it mean its related to the nunchaku being finally packed in with the console?
Im out of ideas, I dont know what else to think about it.
Edit:
Damn you PGC dont filter "W E"
Ill admit one thing, Id never laughed and felt bad at the same time so much in my life, its like when I watched Life its Beautiful.
Post by: BiLdItUp1 on April 27, 2006, 03:38:03 PM
First reaction was they took the F out of WiFi. Besides all the awkwardness, I don't like that it's only 1 syllable and not abbreviatable.
The fact is, they should have just stuck with Revolution, just like they stuck with DS. I expected them to regardless of what their statements said. This isn't a dealbreaker for me, but NoA marketing must be pissed right now...
Post by: Robageejammin on April 27, 2006, 03:39:22 PM
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Post by: NW on April 27, 2006, 03:46:50 PM
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Originally posted by: Hostile Creation
Artimus.
Are you serious? Cuz if so, I don't even know how to respond.
It's like, if I named my child Orange, and my parents and wife and friends hated my child because it was named Orange. It's stupid, senseless, and immature.
I don't think that'd work. It'd be more like:
"If I named my child Orange, my parents and wife and friends would sympathize for the kid but hate ME for choosing a ridiculous name."
Edit: Although "Orange" does sound like a cool name. The Nintendo Orange... I could dig it.
Post by: matt oz on April 27, 2006, 03:53:41 PM
And I lol'ed at the person who said 'small WiiWiis.' That was funny.
edit: wtf, why does w-e-l-l show up as wiill?
Post by: Bill Aurion on April 27, 2006, 03:56:56 PM
Ironic...
Post by: Michael8983 on April 27, 2006, 04:04:37 PM
The slogans just write themselves:
Wii have the games you're looking for
Wii are here to stay
Wii will rock you
Wii are the REVOLUTION
Just look at the press release that Wiint along with the announcement and you can see how much fun Nintendo itself plans on having with the name. People will get so used to thinking of "Wii" as a replacement for "Wii" that all the juvenile pee jokes will be forgotten.
Post by: obscureownership on April 27, 2006, 04:05:05 PM
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"nigg4" is easy to remember, "f4g" is even easier to remember, will you name a product like that? will you really? yes Im exagerating of course, Wii isnt as bad as those, but I think you get my point
(added numbers because it didn't make much sense with the formating)
Im still trying to wrap my head around the name,
That is a dumb comparison because no one finds the word Wii offensive, whereas many people find the words nigga and fag extremely offensive. Maybe they might find it immature because they are dumb enough to make the connection of the sound "Wii" and urine jokes, but really, guys, come on. Wii grew out of those long ago. Everyone wont care in a month anyways, but they sure will remember it, therefor it has done it's job quite Wiill.
Post by: MysticGohan on April 27, 2006, 04:05:50 PM
But seriously, the name itself doesn't bother me, I really want to play with my sexy sleek wii
Post by: Michael8983 on April 27, 2006, 04:07:16 PM
Post by: Kairon on April 27, 2006, 04:24:46 PM
So, this name was reached by committee?
Mm-hmmm.
~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Post by: mantidor on April 27, 2006, 04:28:29 PM
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Originally posted by: obscureownershipQuote
"nigg4" is easy to remember, "f4g" is even easier to remember, will you name a product like that? will you really? yes Im exagerating of course, Wii isnt as bad as those, but I think you get my point
(added numbers because it didn't make much sense with the formating)
Im still trying to wrap my head around the name,
That is a dumb comparison because no one finds the word Wii offensive, whereas many people find the words nigga and fag extremely offensive. Maybe they might find it immature because they are dumb enough to make the connection of the sound "Wii" and urine jokes, but really, guys, come on. Wii grew out of those long ago. Everyone wont care in a month anyways, but they sure will remember it, therefor it has done it's job quite Wiill.
As I said, Im exaggerating, my point is not that wii is an offensive name, is that just because its easy to remember doesnt mean its a good name at all.
The name lacks appeal, urine jokes aside. Now add the jokes, and is a terrible name, they are inmature and stupid of course, but thats not going to fix the image the name carries.
I really need some info on games to get past this, E3 cant come soon enough!
Post by: Artimus on April 27, 2006, 04:32:49 PM
But love or hate this name, you have to admit it does NOT help the system in the slightest. Ugh.
And once again, this does not fit the examples they keep mentioning (Amazon, iPod, Napster) because they're modifications of other words that DO NOT SOUND LIKE WORDS FOR PENIS AND PEE. And they're two syllables. Two syllables is VERY important in a name, just look at all the major brand names: at least two syllables (and can thus be abbreviated). Such as:
Coca-Cola
Pepsi
Nike
Amazon
Apple
iPod
Intel
Sony
Panasonic
Adidas
Toyota
MTV
Virgin
Napster
iTunes
ETC!
But I think what bothers me most is that they KNOW no one likes it, they KNOW no one is going to like it, and they still do it anyway. If you have to convince people your NAME is good, it's not. It's not like a controller which actually has values to it, a name just sounds. This one sounds stupid and the reaction is justified. It's a mistake and they know they're making it. But they like the name, so we're supposed to too. The conceited Nintendo appears to have returned...
Post by: Shecky on April 27, 2006, 04:35:29 PM
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on April 27, 2006, 04:43:20 PM
Post by: Robageejammin on April 27, 2006, 04:45:47 PM
I think im gonna try to get Reggie to sign that tomorrow
Post by: obscureownership on April 27, 2006, 04:47:34 PM
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Originally posted by: mantidor
As I said, Im exaggerating, my point is not that wii is an offensive name, is that just because its easy to remember doesnt mean its a good name at all.
The name lacks appeal, urine jokes aside. Now add the jokes, and is a terrible name, they are inmature and stupid of course, but thats not going to fix the image the name carries.
I really need some info on games to get past this, E3 cant come soon enough!
I was making the point that your comparison has nothing to do with my arugement. I was arguing that, in the world or marketing, the quality of something doesn't matter, just so long as it's easy to remember. If you study marketing at all, you come to realize that even if, say, a commercial is awfully annoying, and you just want to throw something at the TV, it's still done it's job of injecting the given product into your mind.
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on April 27, 2006, 04:48:54 PM
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Originally posted by: Robageejammin
voila
I think im gonna try to get Reggie to sign that tomorrow
Lol that is actually funny
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Post by: Velociraptor on April 27, 2006, 04:51:22 PM
Post by: JonLeung on April 27, 2006, 04:51:29 PM
It's a PlayStation. A play station. A station of play. It's a place where you have to be stationed at, not to game, but to play. It sounds like something you'd find in a day care or in a kindergarten class.
Man, who'd want to buy a game console called a "PlayStation"? Parents would for their little kids, that's who.
...
You see my point? Either people are just jaded when it comes to Nintendo, or silly names become normal once it's proven itself. The Wii has a lot to prove, and it will do it at E3.
I'm going to E3. I'm going to play on the Wii and its great games (which, BTW, aren't a worse experience because six-year-olds giggle and joke about the name). Direct your hate to me. Be jealous and envious of the joy I get of handling the Wii. Then you'll see that it's all about the games, and that complaining about a stupid name is only going to make it worse.
Like I said, it's not my choice of a name, but seriously, it's a name. Make all the excuses you want about first impressions and that mainstream gamers are probably going to hate on it more than you guys already do but if it delivers come E3, they can call it whatever the heck they want to and I'd buy it and you probably will too.
Post by: Velociraptor on April 27, 2006, 04:53:36 PM
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on April 27, 2006, 04:57:31 PM
Post by: Pale on April 27, 2006, 05:05:00 PM
The first thing I thought when I read it was the Wi-Fi connection..... I dunno, it sounds silly, but a name won't make or break nintendo. If anyone out there thought that a fancy name could help change their image, they are wrong... Even if they called it the Nintendo Panty Raider, the cool kids wouldn't buy it, and I don't think Nintendo cares about the cool kids. (thankfully)
Post by: Robageejammin on April 27, 2006, 05:06:36 PM
Post by: Hostile Creation on April 27, 2006, 05:06:59 PM
I dunno. I'm going to wait and see.
"Two syllables is VERY important in a name, just look at all the major brand names: at least two syllables"
So Nintendo is being different from all of their predecessors. How's that bad? It can only garner more attention.
Post by: mantidor on April 27, 2006, 05:09:52 PM
Post by: gerdi3xgp on April 27, 2006, 05:15:22 PM
Post by: EasyCure on April 27, 2006, 05:15:47 PM
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Originally posted by: Hostile Creation
I'm not sure what to think about it. I'm defending it, since there's overwhelming whining going on, and I always have to argue against overwhelming whining because I hate it more than anything, but I'm not sure.
I like the name. I think it's fun, and kind of silly, and unique. My friends and I will definitely have fun messing around with the name. If you can have fun with a game console's name, you're on the right track, I'd say.
But there's an obviously negative feeling overall. Which I think is ridiculous, get over your "cool" video games and delusions of grandeur and realize you're a bunch of nerds who wouldn't know "cool" if it went down on you. But still, gotta take that into account, because as unfortunate as it is, these are the people who will be buying it.
Humanity's in such a pitiful state. Even our fun has to be serious
quoted for truth, you are my first ever favorite poster. congrats.
i too was like many of you dissapointed at this news. the name sounds stupid. i saw the video, i get it, but i still like it. we all have to accept it though, since theres a very slim chance of nintendo changing it (but lets hope they do hehe), but to sit there and post "nintendo is dumb i hate them, they suck etc etc" is pointless, and very "tiku tiku tiku! " of you. every single one of you 'haters' will still drool over the games they show at e3 and you know despite how dumb you think the name is you will still want it. the promise of a revolution is what you fell in love with, am i right? not the name. the promise of a new way to play games and new games in general is what got you hooked and theres no going back, no matter whether they call it Revolution, Wii, Crapcute, Sh*tbox or Snorestation. you want it, thats that.
if you dont actually buy the damn thing JUST because of the name then you people are immature and not ready for a revolution. stick to your annual sport-port and your WWII games. wait till ms and sony rip it off and make "manly" games that a juvinille insecure person as yourself can play and use a rip-off wand to masturbate in a gamethat proves you're a man to you and all your friends
wii will grow on you, i can see the adds now "hold on for the ride....Wiii (as in wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee)" lol
grow up guys, all that matters is the games that they make. i wouldnt mind for an n64 type era again. all games by the big N are astounding and third party support is whatever...i relaly couldnt care less. all the games i play the most are the first party ones anyway. as long as the diehard nintendo fans give em the money they need and deserve they'll be back to deliver another great system and hopefully get it right and give it a DECENT NAME. maybe thats just me, im just pissed at all the ranting.
Post by: Nephilim on April 27, 2006, 05:23:08 PM
Post by: EasyCure on April 27, 2006, 05:26:24 PM
Post by: RocketDarkness on April 27, 2006, 05:29:50 PM
Seriously, THIS is a name that will stick in everyone's minds. 1 syllable. Easy to remember. Distinctive spelling. People are talking about it. A lot. It's spreading already. And this doesn't even include the inevitable advertising.
PS: In Japanese, it's most likely going to be spelled in katakana, since they're going for the sound more than a specific meaning.
Post by: Knoxxville on April 27, 2006, 05:45:50 PM
Post by: Ian Sane on April 27, 2006, 05:49:33 PM
"Live with it, sleep with it, eat with it, move along with it and hopefully they'll arrive at the same place."
Nintendo's creedo and the exact reason why they're in last place. If you have to tell your fanbase to "live with it" then maybe your name sucks.
Post by: JonLeung on April 27, 2006, 05:55:31 PM
And it was an uphill battle for the original PlayStation too.
It's not about the name...at least not anywhere near as much as the marketing behind it.
Post by: Infernal Monkey on April 27, 2006, 05:55:46 PM
Post by: Bill Aurion on April 27, 2006, 06:08:34 PM
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
So I'm reading Perrin Kaplan's interview on IGN.
"Live with it, sleep with it, eat with it, move along with it and hopefully they'll arrive at the same place."
Nintendo's creedo and the exact reason why they're in last place. If you have to tell your fanbase to "live with it" then maybe your name sucks.
Or maybe your fanbase sucks...
Post by: mantidor on April 27, 2006, 06:10:48 PM
I have to agree with Ian with this one, this name is nintendo being arrogant, "we can name it whatever the hell we want and people will buy it", what irks me a little is that some of you are fine with Nintendo being like that, because I f!cking hate arrogance, even if justified.
Post by: vudu on April 27, 2006, 06:14:37 PM
QuoteI noticed it. Btw, didn't Nintendo come up with the term PlayStation? Or did I make that up somehow?
Originally posted by: JonLeung
Oh, for goodness sakes, only one person even noticed my point about "PlayStation" being the most childish name ever (at least when I made it in this thread).
Post by: JonLeung on April 27, 2006, 06:18:03 PM
But no, they stuck with "PlayStation". The PlayStation wasn't so hot at first. Newcomer, stupid name, uphill battle...at least Nintendo still has a fan base.
If FMVs like those found in Final Fantasy VII make people want to buy something that sounds like a parent's tool to distract the little ones, then a cool new control scheme can make people buy something that sounds like urine or a penis or whatever.
So when you guys disavow my point because you think "PlayStation" is part of everyday "lexicon" or whatever, you're actually proving my point that things can still sell despite a silly name.
Post by: Mario on April 27, 2006, 06:29:56 PM
Imagine a tutorial for something like Spongebob Squarepants...
"Aim your Wii at the objects on the screen."
Post by: Caliban on April 27, 2006, 06:32:07 PM
Geez, what a bunch of cry-babies, and even the PGC staff? lol. It's not like you are the ones that make publicity for the system so why even bother, if you want to publicize it to your friends just say "want to see the new Nintendo system that I just bought?" or something like that.
Btw, I think the name is just different and quirky and funny at the same time. Heck, it isn't even a name so why should it even be pronounced at all.
Post by: Artimus on April 27, 2006, 06:33:02 PM
You're making the PlayStation thing up. No one liked the 360 either (no one does now...) but it's not actually offputting, just dreadfully dull.
Yes all press can be good press, but not when the press is actually offputting.
Post by: JonLeung on April 27, 2006, 06:40:32 PM
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PlayStation is not even in the same ballpark as the Wii. First of all it's comprised of words. Second it has a noun. Third it isn't a synonym for small, pee, or penis.
You're making the PlayStation thing up. No one liked the 360 either (no one does now...) but it's not actually offputting, just dreadfully dull.
Yes all press can be good press, but not when the press is actually offputting.
I didn't "make up" the PlayStation thing. I don't see how you could think that, since I never named it. If you say it with a slight pause in the middle, as in "Play Station", it really does sound like a station of play. Tell me it doesn't. I might not have noticed it myself if the weatherman didn't say it oddly on the news that one time. "My kids and their play...station"...I was like, WTF, that actually sounded childish when he said it.
"Box" is slang for female parts, and it's "X"-rated...so why no complaints about the Xbox? OMG MORE SEX STUFF.
Wii isn't a great name in my opinion either. But that's not my point. I think a solid marketing campaign can sell a product no matter what the name. The fact that you guys didn't think PlayStation or Xbox on the same level is because the products are marketed so much that no one actually stops to think about them. Or people actually think about the games they want to play on them.
Everyone's going to call it the "Nintendo' anyway ("let's play some Nintendo"), and maybe that's a good thing...keeps the company name in the popular lexicon.
I'm not exactly defending the name, but most comments against it seem to be gut-reaction fanboyism that really should be a moot point considering what "secrets" there still are of it, and its already unorthodox, standard-breaking-(and-making?) control scheme.
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Post by: Knoxxville on April 27, 2006, 06:58:42 PM
Anyhoo, I guess they could always get booed at the E3 press conference.....THAT would PWN!
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Post by: Hostile Creation on April 27, 2006, 07:00:17 PM
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It's not like you are the ones that make publicity for the system so why even bother, if you want to publicize it to your friends just say "want to see the new Nintendo system that I just bought?"
THIS IS KEY. I cannot stress that enough. When you tell people about this system, don't say "Oh hey, listen to this stupid name, doesn't it sound like piss?" because that'll be their first impression and that'll be what they belive. Introduce it as "we", not "wee", explain it to them, the controls and the concept behind the title and don't make them think about the dumb jokes. It's the "We", Wii, the "weeeeeeeee!", depending on who you tell.
Being continually negative, especially with people who don't know the name yet, will only make things worse.
Post by: ruby_onix on April 27, 2006, 07:02:43 PM
Now Nintendo doesn't give a crap about impressing anyone, and puts deliberate effort into looking like retards.
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Post by: Mario on April 27, 2006, 07:04:54 PM
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Now Nintendo doesn't give a crap about impressing anyone
That's called confidence.
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Post by: JonLeung on April 27, 2006, 07:08:42 PM
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"Play Station" was named the way it is (by Sony BTW, Nintendo had nothing to do with it) because at the time the Silicon Graphics "Work Station" was the biggest, baddest, most impressive thing in the history of computers. Sony was trying to claim that they had the gaming-version of a supercomputer. (Then Nintendo went and built themselves an actual authentic $200 SGI Workstation.)
Now Nintendo doesn't give a crap about impressing anyone, and puts deliberate effort into looking like retards.
...and yet you'll still buy a Wii this year, so calling them retarded doesn't help matters when you support them.
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Being continually negative, especially with people who don't know the name yet, will only make things worse.
So true.
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Post by: Kairon on April 27, 2006, 07:14:42 PM
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Thats called arrogance, and as I said, I f!cking hate that.
Arrogance confidence, same thing.
Look, wii shall call it arrogant in five years when the Wii fails to accomplish Nintendo's goals, or wii shall call it confident if it does.
Subjective. *shrug*
~Carmine M. Red
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Post by: Shift Key on April 27, 2006, 07:15:08 PM
Maybe its because of the fact that I'm not cool (or trying to be) that I just don't care. I can't wait to see how the Wii-wand gets used at E3 anyway.
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Post by: Caliban on April 27, 2006, 07:22:38 PM
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It's not like you are the ones that make publicity for the system so why even bother, if you want to publicize it to your friends just say "want to see the new Nintendo system that I just bought?"
THIS IS KEY. I cannot stress that enough. When you tell people about this system, don't say "Oh hey, listen to this stupid name, doesn't it sound like piss?" because that'll be their first impression and that'll be what they belive. Introduce it as "we", not "wee", explain it to them, the controls and the concept behind the title and don't make them think about the dumb jokes. It's the "We", Wii, the "weeeeeeeee!", depending on who you tell.
Being continually negative, especially with people who don't know the name yet, will only make things worse.
Oh I'm well aware of that, as I've posted already something about that on the Wii section, I did it at work today and neither I or the person that heard it did any jokes of sexual intent.
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Thats called arrogance, and as I said, I f!cking hate that.
Uh, no it isn't. Confidence and arrogance are unsimilar, they can go together but they are not the same.
Post by: 18 Days on April 27, 2006, 07:28:20 PM
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Has Penny Arcade jumped on this yet?
No, They'll mention it but I don't forsee a comic about it. It'd be like making a comic about a clown, what are you gunna make fun of?
Post by: Hostile Creation on April 27, 2006, 07:58:15 PM
And I know you get it Caliban, I was pointing it out to all the naysayers who will make it seem negative from the get-go.
Post by: wandering on April 27, 2006, 08:18:14 PM
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"Live with it, sleep with it, eat with it, move along with it and hopefully they'll arrive at the same place."
Nintendo's creedo and the exact reason why they're in last place. If you have to tell your fanbase to "live with it" then maybe your name sucks.
Just because something is an acquired taste doesn't mean it sucks. Especially when said acquired taste will be repeated over and over and over again for us.
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Oh, for goodness sakes, only one person even noticed my point about "PlayStation" being the most childish name ever (at least when I made it in this thread).
I noticed and you're right...most video game console names sound stupid at first. In fact, as one of the analysts quoted by GameSpot pointed out, the one console with a name that was actually good (Dreamcast) failed miserably.
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"fag" is even easier to remember, will you name a product like that?
Yeah, who would ever call a product a fag? Now, excuse me while a go smoke a cigarette. (See what I did there?)
Post by: obscureownership on April 27, 2006, 08:18:22 PM
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Sign it!
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No I like the name. The more and more I watch people's reaction, I'm seeing that it's going to stick more and more. It has appeal to crowd that doesn't really play games because the word has no definition yet, so Nintendo is free to define it themselves. It has appeal to us XTREME GAMERS because we get to make phallic jokes. See, win win situation 8-)
Post by: AManatee2 on April 27, 2006, 08:55:36 PM
i think its short, sweet, and stylish... i think the only thing i'm not looking forward to are the constant moans of people.. or standing and listening to people laughing at your local electronics outlet. on that note.. i think nintendo did make a bad choice.
it LOOKS a lot cooler than it sounds.
Post by: obscureownership on April 27, 2006, 09:23:36 PM
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is it because of what it sounds like.. or because of what it looks like? or the fact that its easy to make fun of?
i think its short, sweet, and stylish... i think the only thing i'm not looking forward to are the constant moans of people.. or standing and listening to people laughing at your local electronics outlet. on that note.. i think nintendo did make a bad choice.
it LOOKS a lot cooler than it sounds.
Anyway you look at it, any angle you take with it, it's infectous. I like it because it can go so many ways. You can make jokes out of it, you can make communal statements about it, and it's less text you have to type. Wii. Love it or hate it, we are creating an environment perfect for a new unique product.
Post by: AManatee2 on April 27, 2006, 09:50:52 PM
i just read the entire pgc rountable chat about the name. its brilliant, and some great ideas. made my previous post completely obsolete and look restated.
i really dont think it will be as hard to accept as many people are claiming. i think if the people 'see' the logo a lot.. the stylish-ness will get to them before the sound.
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on April 27, 2006, 10:04:59 PM
Post by: Starxxon on April 27, 2006, 11:00:23 PM
It's almost impossible that Nintendo wasn't aware of the consequences of this decision, maybe the controversy wasn't part of the initial plan, but they decided to stick to it, for the sake of it and for all it stands for.
I see that some people commenting don't hate the name that much themselves, but are afraid that it may be ridiculed at school or at their workplace... Well it shouldn't be that way... Nintendo, yourself and the world in general, shouldn't be at the mercy of schoolyard bullies!
Let's say that there is new some asian kid named "Wii" in your class at school, will you:
A) Make fun his name, calling him "wee wee", and encourage bullies to ruin part of his childhood?
B) Try to look indifferent to the name, taking a "low-profile" approach to be sure not to be ridiculed for defending Wii?
C) Defend Wii against the bullies, and side with people that are tired of mean jokes and verbal abuse (or textual abuse, on the internet)?
There is a lot of intermediary possibilities, but for the post I only use 3 categories.
Nintendo wants us to be part of group B or even better, group C. If people in group A don't want to buy the Nintendo Wii because of it's name, well so be it... We don't want you playing our console, because we don't want you to drive the Wii market toward mindless, ruthless games. You like making fun of other's people name? You hate the French or like to make fun of other languages? (Oui?) We don't want you on our online gaming network.
Group B and C are really the majority, though group A tends to be "louder", and adults usually shift towards group C as they get older, and incidentally stop playing video games since what they see on the PSx and XBox is aimed at group A in particular. You see, group B and C really fit the market Nintendo seems to be aiming at with the Wii. These people won't mind the name, some will actively defend it if they have to.
After all, it's a single syllable, and the sound of it is used much more commonly to say "we", which has a more serious and profound meaning. It also has something to do with the sound "Weee!" that we innocently shout when we have fun (usually when we were kids). Games can be serious (Chess, puzzles) and/or also innocently fun. Four players Pong with the Wii remote? That in itself could produce many "Weeee!" from perfectly sane adults in all parts of the world.
The name Revolution was a cool name and all, but it has a political meaning to many... The name also sets the expectations too high, people expecting things like force feedback and virtual reality. Wii sounds more like "A new simple way to have good old fun". People ridiculing the name will only help to create that market amongst non-players, by exaggerating the contrast between the Xbox/PS market and Nintendo's market. The XBox/PS market will be seen even more about bullying others with virtual guns, cars, making fun of names and cursing through voice links. In contrast Nintendo's market will be seen as being about simple innocent fun.
The look of the console is serious though, and there's a reason to it. Adults (a good part of what Nintendo is aiming now, despite what some say) also have "serious lives", so when they are not playing they want the console to blend with their living room. But when you power it up, the shiny blue light comes out of the dvd slot, putting an emphasis on the fun content of this otherwise serious looking rectangle box. And then you can say "Weeee!" and wave your hand in the air like some crazy kid with a laser pointer
We'll get used to it, just like we'll get used to say the syllable "Wii".The jokes will get old quickly, anyone still making these jokes in a month will only help the cause, generating a lot of "We don't care" or "We like the name".
"Nintendo wee wee ahaha"... Whatever... who's looking immature now? It's an old joke already...
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on April 27, 2006, 11:06:51 PM
Post by: ruby_onix on April 27, 2006, 11:13:31 PM
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...and yet you'll still buy a Wii this year, so calling them retarded doesn't help matters when you support them.
Wrong and wrong.
While you can't entirely judge a book by it's cover, I was predisposed towards liking the Revolution. Was. Not anymore. I have no desire to buy a Wii. Nintendo is going to have to do something spectacular to win me back if they want my support (and I don't believe that "Wii" is the required first step in a grand plan to do just that).
And if it weren't for people complaining about the Celda demo, Nintendo would've never given Link eyebrows. Without the complaining, we wouldn't be anticipating Twilight Princess. If Nintendo wants to completely ignore the overwhelmingly negative reaction to this name, and just plow ahead with this boneheaded decision, then the failure of the Revolution (and possibly the death of Nintendo) will be on their hands, not mine.
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on April 27, 2006, 11:33:06 PM
Post by: Michael8983 on April 28, 2006, 12:04:33 AM
OMG, over-dramatic much?
Post by: PaLaDiN on April 28, 2006, 12:31:22 AM
Post by: Deguello on April 28, 2006, 12:59:39 AM
Color me disappointed in the lot of you. And consider this the shattering of the last illusion I had of PGC forum's intellectual authority.
Post by: ruby_onix on April 28, 2006, 01:19:38 AM
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Today I am seeing a group of grown adults act like a bunch of crybaby brats. Or a group of ignorant children act like crybaby brats. I am not sure which sickens me most, but probably the adults because you are supposed to know better.
A) You're surprised by the reaction? I saw this coming within a couple neuron firings of seeing those three letters. And the rest of the internet appears to be giving it to Nintendo far worse than PGC is.
B) Crybaby brats are Nintendo's target audience.
Post by: Mario on April 28, 2006, 01:40:45 AM
Think about a 37 year old man who hasn't played a game since Pong, he's walking through Target, sees a bunch of systems on the shelf, Playstation / Xbox / Revolution / Dreamcast / Nintendo / whatever, he keeps walking, because he's just not into games anymore. He sees the Wii, and stops. Has a look. If Nintendo have done a job enough job making the system a true gaming revolution, he will take interest in it.
Can't wait for E3
Post by: Deguello on April 28, 2006, 01:44:07 AM
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Today I am seeing a group of grown adults act like a bunch of crybaby brats. Or a group of ignorant children act like crybaby brats. I am not sure which sickens me most, but probably the adults because you are supposed to know better.
A) You're surprised by the reaction? I saw this coming within a couple neuron firings of seeing those three letters. And the rest of the internet appears to be giving it to Nintendo far worse than PGC is.
B) Crybaby brats are Nintendo's target audience.
C) Your reaction was the absolute worst of all, and I am this close to banning you because I don't like your stupid name, which would be a good object lesson for your deeply flawed logic.
Post by: mrjack203 on April 28, 2006, 03:30:57 AM
Actually when I heard the name I died a little inside, this is my only way to cope.
Post by: AManatee2 on April 28, 2006, 04:29:17 AM
Post by: BigJim on April 28, 2006, 04:33:16 AM
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Originally posted by: Deguello
Today I am seeing a group of grown adults act like a bunch of crybaby brats. Or a group of ignorant children act like crybaby brats. I am not sure which sickens me most, but probably the adults because you are supposed to know better.
Color me disappointed in the lot of you. And consider this the shattering of the last illusion I had of PGC forum's intellectual authority.
Oh snap... Aren't you the PGC'er that made the ridiculous comment that anybody that plays videogames over 30 (unless it's their job) is a stunted manchild? Yeah, thanks for your latest judgement of us. It holds weight.
Post by: mantidor on April 28, 2006, 05:03:10 AM
Post by: Knoxxville on April 28, 2006, 05:51:59 AM
I'm alright with Wii.......'nuff said.
Post by: nemo_83 on April 28, 2006, 06:34:05 AM
"IGN Wii: We're now called IGN Wii. How could you do this to us?
Perrin Kaplan: Say that again."
When I read that, I knew I was not alone in being turned off by this name. I don't know how anyone could defend this. I don't even want to tell my friends this, I'm not, I'm just going to keep calling it Revolution. If I told them Nintendo changed the name of their new console to Wii as in you want to play with my weewee, it wouldn't be good. They are already biased Madden gamers.
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Post by: Kairon on April 28, 2006, 07:56:32 AM
In fact, I like it more today than yesterday. But not as much as tomorrow.
So...uh... how about that two-controllers-packed-in rumor?
~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Post by: Ian Sane on April 28, 2006, 08:12:55 AM
Xbox isn't a bad name though. It's not a good one but it's not a bad one either. I honestly can't think of any name prior to Wii that I considered bad as in it would have a damaging effect on the console's marketing. Wii is actually a BAD name for a product. It sounds like it will turn people off. It sounds confusing. It sounds awkward. I've never heard a name so bad that upon hearing it I immediately predicted failure but this name is that bad. No one who isn't a hardcore Nintendo nut or hardcore gamer is going to give this thing a chance unless Nintendo shows some game that is like holodeck good.
I'm reminded of Mick Foley's book where he talks about how when Steve Austin suggested playing a character that was cold blooded he was offered names from WWF writers like Chilly McFreeze and Baron Von Ruthless. Mick said that Steve could have played the exact same character but with one of those names he would have bombed. I agree completely. That's what "Wii" is. It's a name so dumb that regardless of what the product behind it is, it will bomb.
Post by: Kairon on April 28, 2006, 08:19:03 AM
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Post by: Caliban on April 28, 2006, 08:29:37 AM
Post by: thejeek on April 28, 2006, 08:43:52 AM
first person plural pronoun - fair enough
small, in a patronising sense - not good
urine - bloody awful.
Someone should check Nintendo exec's portfolios prior to and after this announcement - I expect they were selling Nintendo shares short like they were going out of fashion. The whole thing is clearly some crazy scheme to make a quick buck as Nintendo goes noisly bust....
Post by: PaLaDiN on April 28, 2006, 08:54:40 AM
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Post by: mantidor on April 28, 2006, 09:12:24 AM
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Wii not trademarked? Wii get punk'd?
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Who the hell needs to trademark that? no company is dumb enough to pick such a name for a product :P
There will be an explanation for Wii at E3, it has to be HUGE to turn the tide to Nintendo's favor.
Post by: thejeek on April 28, 2006, 09:13:02 AM
Post by: Kairon on April 28, 2006, 09:13:35 AM
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Wii not trademarked? Wii get punk'd?
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Who the hell needs to trademark that? no company is dumb enough to pick such a name for a product :P
LOL.
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Post by: thejeek on April 28, 2006, 09:14:02 AM
Post by: Ian Sane on April 28, 2006, 09:21:07 AM
Heh. It's like that movie The Producers.
Post by: thejeek on April 28, 2006, 09:32:36 AM
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Heh. It's like that movie The Producers.
Well does anyone have a *better* explaination?
Post by: Kairon on April 28, 2006, 09:40:17 AM
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Post by: bigdingus06 on April 28, 2006, 09:44:05 AM
the name simply sucks. say it a million times and it doesn't change how god-awful it is.
the nintendo wii
the nintendo wii
the nintendo wii
DOES IT NOT SOUND WiiTARDED YET?! lol xbox is a dumb name, yet it doesn't sound childish. playstation is actually not that bad a name. GAMECUBE is dumb too, but it looks like the most badass name on the planet next to the Wii....
some of u say that it's only the 'manly man' ppl that want the name different. uh no. it's anybody that has ears and a mind of their own. there are hundreds of thousands of other words..but they have to pick one that sounds so wrong ... and yes, they know the majority of the ppl don't like it, yet we have to do what nintendo says, we have to be nintendo and be so different. finally i realized i'm no longer defending nintendo. i wanna play the rev games, but honestly, i want them to fail misserably this gen now.
how can a diehard nintendo fan say this? well maybe cuz i'm sick of being let down like a boyfriend who's in love with someone, but keeps being cheated on and screwed by that same person.
sooner or later i need to put my foot down. when nintendo knows the majority of ppl don't like something, yet they do it anyway...it just such a slap in the face. cartridges over cds, little purple lunchbox design, no online (cuz it's not what gamers want...until they just up and change their minds), a cartoon looking zelda (i liked it too and looked past the graphics, but the majority wanted the spaceworld zelda), and now the 'wii'....i'm looking past so many others but it just bothers me a company is so high on itself, it's always trying so hard to be 'different' for whatever excuse.
being different isn't bad. trying to make it so obvious that you are 'different' is. i wish nintendo was 'one' person. i'd go find nintendo, and beat him/her till they could no longer think. cuz all thinking has done for them thus far is put them in a distant third in the console race.
Post by: thejeek on April 28, 2006, 09:53:52 AM
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Monadnock Valley
Just skimmed through some study notes - good to know that posting on internet forums is good for the intellect after all :-)
Not sure about the relevance of that one though - after all, it wasn't called Poo Valley...
Post by: Kairon on April 28, 2006, 09:56:42 AM
I haven't seen "The Producers" though, is that an exact analogy?
By the way, how did you like your 5 minute induction into Ayn Rand's objectivism?
~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Post by: thejeek on April 28, 2006, 10:02:37 AM
Yeah - never come across Ayn Rand before - should probably check her out (surprised my GF hasn't got any of her stuff - it sounds like it would totally be her thing)
Post by: nemo_83 on April 28, 2006, 12:08:39 PM
I agree.
I'm still in a state of confusion, just not understanding why they would name a product this. Why do they do this? Why do they always do crap like use carts, case their console like a lunchbox, ignore online, try to force people to buy GBA connectivity, and now name their console something just uncomfortable.
Perrin Kaplan, I don't want to "feel" your Wii; you got me!
Post by: Hostile Creation on April 28, 2006, 01:03:22 PM
I'd say I defended it at least pretty well.
Post by: Karl Castaneda #2 on April 28, 2006, 02:44:13 PM
Does "Wii" really destroy it that much for you?
If it does, well, that's really unfortunate. Nintendo could've certainly used your purchase, and you'd be doing yourself a disservice by missing out on what should be great games. It's a total bummer. In fact, I'm willing to bet people are more scared of the reaction of Wii than the name itself.
In a perfect world, gamers wouldn't be so self-conscious or easily angered. Should Nintendo have known that? Yeah, probably, but it's been done, so now you've got a personal decision to make. Will you or will you not let it affect you? I, for one, won't let it bother me too much. It's still gonna be rad and I'm still gonna enjoy it.
I'll end this post the same way I ended the BBB last night with the staff...
You want a Revolution? So do I, but in times like these, Wii need to stick together. Stay excellent, guys.
Post by: Starxxon on April 28, 2006, 03:24:09 PM
You just proved my point... I hope guys like you leave the Nintendo platform. We don't want aggressive bullies like you in the Nintendo community.
"It's categorically, an indefensibly bad decision."
Way to go guys, that's a solid dogmatic argument. Make sure everyone defending the name looks like a fool...
You think you are the majority, but seeing how you aggressively ridicule the name, and more or less directly attack anyone that could try to defend the idea, I'm sure many of those that are indifferent or like the name restrain themselves from posting, fearing very negative replies.
In reality, amongst all readers of this thread, you (people having a very negative reaction) are probably the minority, and it should be revealed over time, as the dust settles.
You guys are saying that the name is bad because others will make fun of it. If it's a bad thing why are you making fun of the name yourself? Why do you try to invent new sick jokes in every post? Why do you encourage and participate to this immature name-calling game?
Edit: ViewtifulGamer, great post, and you don't even like the name that much
Post by: Kairon on April 28, 2006, 03:28:07 PM
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In the producers it's actually a different dodge - they get a load of money from investors (old ladies mainly) and then don't spend most of it (production is dirt cheap) on the assumption that nobody will bother to carefully audit where money has gone when run ends early and they pocket the money. See the original version with Gene Wilder - it's very good.
Yeah - never come across Ayn Rand before - should probably check her out (surprised my GF hasn't got any of her stuff - it sounds like it would totally be her thing)
That's actually pretty similar to monadnock valley... lol. Some developers snatch up this really hilly, really undesirable land and get investments to develop it into a resort. Then they hire protagonist of the story to design the resort. The investors actually sold 200% of the venture, and they're sure that with the unconventional terrain and an architect who is generally reviled by everyone respectable, they can get away with pocketing the difference after the venture tanks.
Only problem is, Rand's hero may be disliked by the fashionable intellectuals, he's a brilliant architect and Monadnock Valley becomes a stunningly successful resort among people who you'd never expect to see at resorts: the middle class. In a way, monandnock valley was "blue ocean" too. The very cheap, hilly and convoluted terrain broke all the traditions of what a popular resort should look like, the architect chosen for the project virtually guaranteed that typical, status quo, upper crust resort goers would sneer at it, and the resort proved astoundingly successful when a larger "blue ocean" market was tapped: the middle-class.
... ANYWAYS...
~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Post by: nemo_83 on April 28, 2006, 03:49:08 PM
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on April 28, 2006, 04:24:39 PM
Post by: OverHeat on April 28, 2006, 05:32:40 PM
Not "cool", huh? MOST EXCELLENT.
Someone asked about Japanese meaning, and since it seems no one has bothered to address this, I guess I will. FIrst off, the two I's ii, pronounced "eeee" (just say the vowel "e" and hold it for about a second) means "good". I have no doubt that this name was predominantly made by the Japanese. Why? Well, unlike Americans, who look at words at face value (goodbye, age of poets) the Japanese absolutely ADORE giving names deep meanings, putting underlying values within their written words. This is most prominent in kanji. The symbols are drawn in such a way as to represent several meanings. Reason being that all kanji (well, ALMOST all anyway) do actually have at least two, if not more meanings. To that end, I am most impressed with Nintendo. They seem to have tried very hard to bring the concept of kanji to America with Wii. Creating a word that sounds one way, but as many highly literate posters have pointed out *rolls eyes* it is MISSPELLED. *GASP!* Misspelling it intentionally to give the word deeper meaning is, IMHO un-freakin-believable. They created a word with deeper meaning than any pun could ever have. They created a word that is easily pronounced/understood by the only two markets that matter to them. (English-speaking and Asian-speaking markets, as if you didnt know.
) Too bad they didnt ask somebody first; "So, we know that the average age of video gamers is supposed to be 20-30, but what is the general maturity level?" Then they may have known that the general communties response would have been "OMFG tey have teh wee wees TEEHEEHEEHEEHEE--"*SLAP!*
To that end, I really like this new name. I give a big kudos to Nintendo for putting such a novel idea as to merge the concept of kanji with english. I give a big, fat, spittle flinging rasberry to all the people who cant/dont bother trying to look for deeper meanings to the things they see.
My worst name currently? X-Box360. As one bad guy said to another in the movie Last Action Hero; "Wha....why-a you do dees? Why you a turn ona me? Why-a you make-a da 360 ona me?"
"It's a 180 you IDIOT. ONE. EIGHTY. If I did a 360, I would have made a COMPLETE circle and be RIGHT back where I WAS when I STARTED!!!"
And that, really, sums up the 360 IMO at this point. The only difference is, they threw some make-up on during the turn. Just remember; when you wash away the make-up, you still have the same, dirty hoe underneath it all.
.....and as I am sure this post will be lost on many, I have a simpler version for us all to enjoy. After all, I wouldn't want to let all the other fanboys out there to think us Nintendo guys can't keep up with the mudslinging!
*read the rest at your own risk* Thats right, keep taking things at face value. Keep judging books by their covers. But above all, please; CRY MORE, n00bs!! Hahahahahlolololzz!!!11one11one11!~!!! Wii FTW! Thats right Playing With My Stationers and X-bitchez! Keep talkin about my "Wii"! See how quick you find a mushroom print on your forehead! Suddenly your flacid little controllerz makes you teh jealous?! You see me whipping out my straight, long, rock hard Wii and you crap your pants!
PS Re: Arrogance VS. Confidence: There are many online dictionaries at your disposal. I suggest looking up both words. If you are still confused, PM me and I will be glad to explain it in further detail. No sarcasm here. No meaness here either, folks. I HATE the fact that America's grasp on the english language has been drastically eroding, and am MORE than happy to help people expand their vocabulary. VOCAB FTW!!!11!
WHEW! I have been dying to get that off my chest!
Thanks for listening folks!
Post by: Dasmos on April 28, 2006, 05:48:28 PM
Post by: Deguello on April 28, 2006, 06:05:37 PM
http://www.pointlesswasteoftime.com/games/crash2.html
I even lowered the age he said for more humor value. Good eyes, though. Almost had me.
Post by: Djunknown on April 28, 2006, 07:20:03 PM
So far, gut reactions have been overwhelmingly WTF. Then the others who say 'OMG grow up.' And that's just the PGC boards, I can't imagine what Gamespot's, Gameinformer's, IGN's, etc. boards are going through...
Gotta give it up for the lurkers that come out of hiding, to challenge our regular posters. Where have you been all this time?
While we're quoting movie lines, here's one from Enemy of the State:
"Either you're really smart, or really stupid." Which one is Nintendo?
Being a Nintendo fan means to have a masochistic relationship. A defensive one if you will. So how's this situation any different?
Will this stop me from buying it? Probably not. Can I say/type 'Wii?' comfortably? Not yet....
Yeah, according to traditional thought, this is proverbial suicide. But this time around, Nintendo has been anything but traditional... Where are they going with this?
Post by: Caliban on April 28, 2006, 07:50:37 PM
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on April 28, 2006, 07:52:58 PM
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Originally posted by: OverHeat
If this name has done nothing else, it has re-affirmed my belief that the collective maturity of the internet "gaming geek" community is roughly 9 years old. Seriously, all of you; when was the last time you heard or made a joke using the word "wee" to mean pee or penis? What makes it even more pathetic is the fact that most "gamers" are supposed to be in their mid-twenties. My favorite posts are the ones that read something like; "OMG Nintendo is doomed now. They are gonna lose the worlds market." *claps for American arrogance* Guess what buckaroos? USA=world is not an equation. How many of you have gone to some Japanese gamers' posting sites to see what they are saying? How many of you even know of any sites like that, not to mention even being able to read enough kanji to figure out what they are saying?
Not "cool", huh? MOST EXCELLENT.
Someone asked about Japanese meaning, and since it seems no one has bothered to address this, I guess I will. FIrst off, the two I's ii, pronounced "eeee" (just say the vowel "e" and hold it for about a second) means "good". I have no doubt that this name was predominantly made by the Japanese. Why? Well, unlike Americans, who look at words at face value (goodbye, age of poets) the Japanese absolutely ADORE giving names deep meanings, putting underlying values within their written words. This is most prominent in kanji. The symbols are drawn in such a way as to represent several meanings. Reason being that all kanji (well, ALMOST all anyway) do actually have at least two, if not more meanings. To that end, I am most impressed with Nintendo. They seem to have tried very hard to bring the concept of kanji to America with Wii. Creating a word that sounds one way, but as many highly literate posters have pointed out *rolls eyes* it is MISSPELLED. *GASP!* Misspelling it intentionally to give the word deeper meaning is, IMHO un-freakin-believable. They created a word with deeper meaning than any pun could ever have. They created a word that is easily pronounced/understood by the only two markets that matter to them. (English-speaking and Asian-speaking markets, as if you didnt know.
Too bad they didnt ask somebody first; "So, we know that the average age of video gamers is supposed to be 20-30, but what is the general maturity level?" Then they may have known that the general communties response would have been "OMFG tey have teh wee wees TEEHEEHEEHEEHEE--"*SLAP!*
To that end, I really like this new name. I give a big kudos to Nintendo for putting such a novel idea as to merge the concept of kanji with english. I give a big, fat, spittle flinging rasberry to all the people who cant/dont bother trying to look for deeper meanings to the things they see.
My worst name currently? X-Box360. As one bad guy said to another in the movie Last Action Hero; "Wha....why-a you do dees? Why you a turn ona me? Why-a you make-a da 360 ona me?"
"It's a 180 you IDIOT. ONE. EIGHTY. If I did a 360, I would have made a COMPLETE circle and be RIGHT back where I WAS when I STARTED!!!"
And that, really, sums up the 360 IMO at this point. The only difference is, they threw some make-up on during the turn. Just remember; when you wash away the make-up, you still have the same, dirty hoe underneath it all.
.....and as I am sure this post will be lost on many, I have a simpler version for us all to enjoy. After all, I wouldn't want to let all the other fanboys out there to think us Nintendo guys can't keep up with the mudslinging!
Thats right, keep taking things at face value. Keep judging books by their covers. But above all, please; CRY MORE, n00bs!! Hahahahahlolololzz!!!11one11one11!~!!! Wii FTW! Thats right Playing With My Stationers and X-bitchez! Keep talkin about my "Wii"! See how quick you find a mushroom print on your forehead! Suddenly your flacid little controllerz makes you teh jealous?! You see me whipping out my straight, long, rock hard Wii and you crap your pants!
PS Re: Arrogance VS. Confidence: There are many online dictionaries at your disposal. I suggest looking up both words. If you are still confused, PM me and I will be glad to explain it in further detail. No sarcasm here. No meaness here either, folks. I HATE the fact that America's grasp on the english language has been drastically eroding, and am MORE than happy to help people expand their vocabulary. VOCAB FTW!!!11!
WHEW! I have been dying to get that off my chest!
Post by: Caliban on April 28, 2006, 08:00:11 PM
Post by: Pryopizm on April 28, 2006, 08:10:21 PM
Let's see how Nintendo tries to market their way out of a hole.
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on April 28, 2006, 08:15:41 PM
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Originally posted by: Pryopizm
After having a full 24 hours to mull the name over, I've decided it still sucks.
Let's see how Nintendo tries to market their way out of a hole.
Easy, just use the unique way the name looks and market it. If done well the name will redeem Nintendo's unique and IMO good descision.
Post by: Pryopizm on April 28, 2006, 08:32:41 PM
Post by: EasyCure on April 28, 2006, 08:40:18 PM
before i go on, i would just like to point out that i do not like the name personally, and hopefully you arent to ignorant to of missed this part of my post becuase what i am saying goes against what you say and believe in. i really dont like the name, i dont like the way it sounds, but i can see what nintendo wants to do with it.
for a while now they have been comparing themselves to apple with their iPods and myspace. its clear that they want everyone of every age to pick up and play their console. it still bothers me when i see a man in his 30s and in a business suit walking down the street with a turquoise ipod mini in his hands as he's waiting for a bus or hailing a cab. why? because iPod to me always seemed to me as it was only marketed to young preteens and teens who are the ones you would most likely think to walk around listening to music everywhere. standing around and singing to a song no one else can hear or tapping your feet to a beat no one can feel isnt something you would normally think of an adult doing in public. however the appeal of the iPod is so strong that it does just that. i've seen people nearing their 50s who have ipods and ipod mini's and nano's. its become such a cultural phenom that the name ipod itself became synomanous with portable mp3 players as a whole, just as nintendo did with video games back in the 80s. i had family that had a sega genisis but if you spoke to their parents they would tell you their kids were "playing nintendo".
thats what they want to go for again. YOU dont seem to see that though because all YOU do is put the name down without giving it any thought because YOU are the "hardcore" gamer that doesnt want to think outside the box, who is too insecure for change. you'd rather make pee jokes then to think about what new meanings the name could mean. there will be plenty of you who will say "the name sucks and im not buying it because it sucks" and you know what i have to say about that? fine, go spend an extra $300 bucks on a BS3 or xbox 3-sux-ty (thanks Ice Cold) and play games the "old" way as it will one day be called. play your rehashes and don't even bother to think that if it werent for a company that used to make japanese playing cards in the 1890's or so to one day up and decide to become a video game company, which at the time was thinking outside the box becuase the video game market crashed....just know that if it werent for that little company that wanted to change the landscape of entertainment, you wouldnt have those machines you spend excessive amounts of money for but havent exactly offered you anything new since the last generation. Nintendo will have their revolution even if it takes time. so far all the peices are falling into place in their favour, dispite of what YOU might think, simply based on a name. for those of you who dislike the name, as do i, but believe in what the Wii has to offer, i applaud you for not letting something so trivial stop you from experiencing something new come this fall, and for you lucky ones in two weeks in LA. i reitterate, for those of you who will simply not buy it based on a name; good riddance, you're not in our fanbase anyway.
i can see nintendo having sleek, small packaging for their tiny, revolutionary console that one day be the next cultural phenom like ipod. they will have their own little section apart from the rest at a place like best buy, it will be the one behind the cages, and hopefully one day be synonmous with video games and gaming again.
i want to say this again in case you forgot, i personally dont like the name. i am not defending nintendo because i 'have to' but because i want to. i want what they want in the industry; a change. i've wanted one for awhile. i hope they deliver. normally i try not to be super opinionated in my posts because like Starxxon pointed out, some posters can come across as those group A bullies, and i simply dont want to be bullied because of MY opinion. i come to PGC to discuss nintendo, to have my opinion be heard (read) not bashed. i wont want to get into arguments with other posters becuase our views differ, because i know i wont bother putting up a fight. i would rather post somewhere else then to feel bullied on the one site i come to for a real disussion.
sorry for such a long post but i felt it was needed to counter all the bitching and moaning...so i only have one last thing to say;
YOU haters can bitch and moan all you please, the rest of us; Wii will be the ones ahead in the game.
Post by: Nile Boogie on April 28, 2006, 08:54:32 PM
At first I thought meh, but after some time to think about it and let it sink in, I love it!
Bitchers am dead!
Post by: EasyCure on April 28, 2006, 09:01:23 PM
Post by: Arbok on April 28, 2006, 09:50:09 PM
Well, I hate it... but I'm so late to the "event" that it almost doesn't even deserve mention at this point. I do hope, or pray might be better wording, that this ends up like "Nitro" where Nintendo instead reverts back to the old code name like they did with the DS. Although "Nitro" was never given the press that Wii was, which worries me... god not only is it hard to see one self saying that, it even looks ugly when typed out. ;_;
Post by: mantidor on April 28, 2006, 09:55:46 PM
It took me until very recently to get used to it (I hate it very much, but Im used to it sadly), so be prepared for some time trying to make any sense of this absolutely insane decision!
Post by: Arbok on April 28, 2006, 10:14:25 PM
Post by: Mario on April 28, 2006, 10:49:47 PM
Rock superstars Queen. Also a word with one syllable, and it's dirty meaning is a LOT worse than "piss". Also one of the most recognisable and influential music groups in history.
Also, U2. What the HELL does U2 mean? Nobody cares!
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on April 28, 2006, 11:15:51 PM
Post by: Arbok on April 29, 2006, 12:12:11 AM
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Originally posted by: VGrevolution
If people don't want to say "We" then why not say "Why" or "W i i", personally I'll continue to pronounce it as Nintendo wants, but that does not mean everyone has to.
I'm sure that would go over great with the non-gamers Nintendo is trying to attract...
Customer: "Excuse me, do you have any 'Why's in stock?"
Walmart Clerk: "What?"
Customer: "Why, Y... the thing the plays games."
Walmart Clerk: "Huh?"
Post by: Donutt007 on April 29, 2006, 06:11:23 AM
Now I was sitting there looking at how familar their logo looks...check it out.
HAHAHA..
Post by: Artimus on April 29, 2006, 07:18:34 AM
Post by: EasyCure on April 29, 2006, 07:34:55 AM
to all the "haters" and just to clarify, the haters are the ones saying things like "OH NINTENDOZ IS DO0MED CUZ THE NAME SUX I WONT BYE ONE1!";
to you haters i say this...
its still the Revolution you fell in love with. its still the only console trying something new and trying to change the way we play games forever. its still that silly little wand that will revolutionize it all, so why simply turn your back? why dont YOU go out and spread the word about Wii. ever hear the term "be part of the solution, not part of the problem"? well learn it and stick with it. is it really that much of a 'slap in the face' to you becuase they chose a name that you dont like? they are still going to make those revolutionary games, their going to pour %100 percent into their new system becuase its something they believe in, and a lot of you believed in as well before the official name; so why hate on it now? its your responsibility to spread the positive about Wii. have non-gamer friends or family? tell him about everything else first, leave the name for last. most people will think "wow thats really different..." and that pro's will out weigh the con's. you wanted a revolution, no? well help nintendo bring one. everyone of you who thinks nintendo has an uphill marketing battle, make it a little easier on the. you're so sure that their PR people suck, so why not help them out? do what The Traveler did and make trialers, make convincing ads to float in the 'net (and not ones with urinals and stuff bashing the name). if not, like i said in my last post; good riddance, you're not part of the fanbase.
Post by: Artimus on April 29, 2006, 08:18:29 AM
When 95% of people actually think the name is either dumb or bad, it doesn't MATTER why they think that. It doesn't matter if everyone in the world has an immature reason for hating it, what matters it that they do. People consider Nintendo iddy-kay and ay-ga because the GameCube was purple. That's a STUPID reason to think that, but it still hurt the console. Saying "grow up" doesn't undo the damage. If people think of pee and penises when they read the name, then it doesn't matter how immature that it. It's not fair or mature, but it's how it is.
What it comes down to is that there is no reason to have a name that causes those reactions. You can have a disruptive, bizarre and originally name that doesn't have bad connotations, confusing pronounciation and a horrible cheesy basis.
Post by: Mario on April 29, 2006, 08:39:33 AM
I repeat, Queen.
Post by: Hostile Creation on April 29, 2006, 09:09:53 AM
Wow, I'm off the internet for one night and someone's already taken an accurate poll with randomoly selected participants. Efficient.
Post by: Djunknown on April 29, 2006, 09:12:05 AM
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People who hate it because they hate X, people who hate it because it is not good, people who like it because other people hate it, people who like it because they are "above the fray," and people who like it because they like X...
Now all I see is a kind of template superimposed over every motive, as though the argument were taking place between cells on a spreadsheet.
Will Reggie and or/ Harrison please stand up to do some damage control? 'Cuz Kaplan isn't really helping...
Post by: Bloodworth on April 29, 2006, 09:17:39 AM
Post by: Bloodworth on April 29, 2006, 09:26:25 AM
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the insecure 15-25 year old who makes a pee joke because you cant come to terms with something
I'm sorry, but once you get older than 25, you're actually MORE likely to associate it with pee or penis because you have children or grandchildren.
It simply sounds silly in a normal sentence, and the innuendo is unavoidable whether you're trying or not: Do you have a Wii? I was up all night last night playing Mario on my Wii. Come over and check out my Wii.
I am the one who generally sits back and takes a calm wait and see approach with Nintendo's decisions, but this still sits like a bad prank. My girlfriend can't stop complaining either. She can't fathom how Nintendo could willingly name their console a word that sounds like urine. We aren't 15 - 25. We aren't insecure gang bangers. We are calm sensible adults and the associations are locked in our psyche like a two-ton roadblock.
Post by: Artimus on April 29, 2006, 10:52:21 AM
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Originally posted by: Hostile Creation
Wow, I'm off the internet for one night and someone's already taken an accurate poll with randomoly selected participants. Efficient.
Nice sidestepping of my actual argument there. I guess the problem is that you agree?
If people think it sounds stupid, it doesn't matter why. That's the problem. Being 'mature' isn't relevant if no one is.
Post by: Kairon on April 29, 2006, 11:11:08 AM
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Post by: Hostile Creation on April 29, 2006, 11:25:07 AM
Your argument was two parts obvious and two parts pointless. As a result, I didn't feel the need to take it seriously.
If the haters and I were arguing in real life, do you think they'd seriously be able to argue that it sounded like "wee wee"? There are so many instances of the internet being grossly different from the real world, more specifically the real marketplace. This is very likely another.
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on April 29, 2006, 02:14:28 PM
Post by: matt oz on April 29, 2006, 03:31:11 PM
But the fact of the matter is this: we, as Nintendo fans, missed out on a lot of games over the past 2 generations, due to Nintendo's poor decision-making. When they decided to use cartridges instead of discs for the N64, they allowed Sony to move ahead of them, and forge new relationships with Nintendo's business partners.
When they chose a childish-looking design for the Gamecube, they further painted themselves into a corner. Whether you like it or not, IMAGE MATTERS. It matters in nearly every aspect of our lives, especially with something so disposable and unnecessary as video gaming.
For the first time, I had to buy a non-Nintendo system in 2003, because I was missing out on too many good games. Nintendo has lacked third-party support for quite some time, and if they keep making these oddball decisions, everything they've been gaining with Wii may be lost.
Post by: Artimus on April 29, 2006, 03:46:17 PM
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Originally posted by: Hostile Creation
"Nice sidestepping of my actual argument there. I guess the problem is that you agree?"
Your argument was two parts obvious and two parts pointless. As a result, I didn't feel the need to take it seriously.
If the haters and I were arguing in real life, do you think they'd seriously be able to argue that it sounded like "wee wee"? There are so many instances of the internet being grossly different from the real world, more specifically the real marketplace. This is very likely another.
Ugh. You're not even talking about the same thing I am. I'm not talking about arguing anything. I'm saying that if people think of bad things when they hear the name, then it doesn't matter how mature they are. Telling someone to grow up isn't going to change what they think. And what they think is what matters when it comes to image.
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on April 29, 2006, 03:57:29 PM
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Originally posted by: matt oz
I personally don't have a problem with the name Wii. I don't like it, but I don't hate it either. I don't care what they hell they call it.
But the fact of the matter is this: we, as Nintendo fans, missed out on a lot of games over the past 2 generations, due to Nintendo's poor decision-making. When they decided to use cartridges instead of discs for the N64, they allowed Sony to move ahead of them, and forge new relationships with Nintendo's business partners.
When they chose a childish-looking design for the Gamecube, they further painted themselves into a corner. Whether you like it or not, IMAGE MATTERS. It matters in nearly every aspect of our lives, especially with something so disposable and unnecessary as video gaming.
For the first time, I had to buy a non-Nintendo system in 2003, because I was missing out on too many good games. Nintendo has lacked third-party support for quite some time, and if they keep making these oddball decisions, everything they've been gaining with Wii may be lost.
It won't be lost, it should be quite apparent this is not the case from the EA interview, along with Ubisofts support. They are more interested in what it does rather than what it is named, which I believe will also be a mute point once the dust has settled regardless of what people may think now. Like the controller, this too will die down and people will get used to it regardless of their supposed relation of "we" to "pee" instead of referencing people together.
There is no point in hammering any of the arguments anymore, it is quite apparent that the few on this board that have defended the name with LOGICAL reasons are being ignored by "wee" minded folks, oh wow look I made a funny. Maybe I should say "wee wee" minded folks, since that is obviously the only way most of the detractors think they can view the word "we" ignorning the fact that the word has another meaning both here and in other cultures.
Post by: Deguello on April 29, 2006, 03:58:03 PM
I usually heard it in conjuction with "hours of the morning," or "little thing, isn't he?"
The hyperactive internet culture that derives and feeds off of innuendo is the only ones making fun of this. And the internet has been known to fabricate innuendo where there was none before. And since that is the case, it appears that no name Nintendo could have come up with would be able to avoid massive ridicule. For example, Penny Arcade, who so recently cajoled Nintendo for this in a comic, also referred to the Xbox as the Three-Sh***y. The Playstation 3 would seem to have likely avoided this, but when strapped for something to make fun of, they latched onto THE FONT of the name. THE FONT.
I see no people lining up to called the PSP a Urinator's dream. Now I have heard "pee" in reference to urine several times in my life, and heck it's in there TWICE. Where are the jokes? I mean isn't saying "PSPee HURK HURK" Gamefaqs material? Aren't we beyond this? Heck Tim Buckley, this Nintendo-hating, DS-trashing, thinly veiled fanboy Comic writer of CtrlAltDel says he likes the name, or at least doesn't hate it, and he's telling all detractors to grow up. That is man is in any position to tell ANYBODY to grow up is ludicrous, yet he is and is right.
I certainly hope all this "wee" nonsense gets out of all of your systems before E3. Because when I go to E3 and "wee"-jokes are still on the minds of everybody, it will reveal more about us than it will reveal about Nintendo's Marketing strategy.
With this announcement, Nintendo not only told everybody the final name of their groundbreaking new console, they held up a mirror to us all, and right now I think I am a wee bit saddened at what I am seeing right now.
(Didja see that? I said wee in a sentence. Isn't that funny? ha ha.)
Post by: Artimus on April 29, 2006, 03:58:59 PM
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Originally posted by: Deguello
I have never ever heard the term "wee" used as slang for urine in my entire life until two days ago.
Where are you from? It's a normal word used by adults in the UK.
Post by: Hostile Creation on April 29, 2006, 04:03:29 PM
Also, I'm not from the UK, but from what I gather it's used in a similar way as Deg described. A la the Scottish "wee lad" variety of the word.
Post by: nitsu niflheim on April 29, 2006, 04:17:38 PM
Post by: Arbok on April 29, 2006, 05:07:03 PM
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Originally posted by: Deguello
The hyperactive internet culture that derives and feeds off of innuendo is the only ones making fun of this. And the internet has been known to fabricate innuendo where there was none before. And since that is the case, it appears that no name Nintendo could have come up with would be able to avoid massive ridicule.
Yes, exactly like what happend to the DS name... oh wait.
Personally, I don't care that it means to take a piss in some cultures, I just don't like the name in general and can't picture saying it in casual conversation very easily. Much like I would hate it if it was called Wiiv or something similar to that name.
However, the name is only, ONLY, meant to sizzle a product. People can cry tell their face turns blue that not everyone thinks of taking a piss or that it's not a horrible name in general, but it's clear that enough do that it has become such the issue that it has. People are also kind of looking at this like Nintendo was backed into a corner about this. Like they opened up their check book and figured they could only afford: "Three letters... and two of them have to be the same, now what can we use?"
This is not like HD support or the hardware specs where there was logic and revenue choices behind them, this is only a marketing tool that should make the product more appealing to as many potentional customers as possible. Not see Nintendo supporters turn against each other in some "New Coke" style fashion while the media outlets ridicule the idea on their sites and even during interviews to PR reps' faces.
Post by: Starxxon on April 29, 2006, 05:37:23 PM
For those who don't hate the name, here are some wishful speculation of mine about the name. It makes you think about WWII? But there are two "W"s instead of one...
Remove War from "World War II" and you get: World II, or Wii in abbreviated form.
World II would be a great alternate name for Nintendo's Wii.
Virtual Reality, in the broader sense of emerging interactive 3D technologies, can be described as a "second world" into which we can build and do things that are beyond our physical reality. Think about "Second Life", the online multi-player virtual world, which is also using the same concept in its title.
I guess you could also remove "World" from WWII to get Wii, but "War II" would be more suited for the competing consoles, which are pushing hard for their best-selling war simulator games. So I guess it could be either World II or War II? I like World II better...
"They chose to create new wars, Wii chose to create new worlds." Could be one of the slogan for Wii
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EasyCure, great post and thanks for quoting me
You should separate your post into paragraphs though, but don't worry about it, I made the same mistake (a long time ago) when I first started to post on forums.
Post by: blackfootsteps on April 29, 2006, 05:48:30 PM
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Originally posted by: Hostile Creation
Also, I'm not from the UK, but from what I gather it's used in a similar way as Deg described. A la the Scottish "wee lad" variety of the word.
Spending last night with an adult Englishman/woman I can say it is used as you described but it's main usage is for example, 'The dog is wee-ing all over the carpet!' - or - 'I need to wee.'
Not that it really matters. 13 year olds will laugh everytime they say it, but hey, laughter does make the world go round.
Post by: Deguello on April 29, 2006, 06:58:05 PM
Exactly what happened. You may not remember the heady days of 2004 but a great deal of people likened the "DS" title to Down's Syndrome (Hurk Hurk) Nobody remembers that because most of the hatred was directed towards the unfathomable idea of using a touchscreen as a control method, the failure of such a method to create any new game type, and the inevitable failure of the DS against the PSP, especially in Japan, where they expected the PSP to just absolutely dominate.
Post by: Nile Boogie on April 29, 2006, 07:02:32 PM
What's in a name? A rose by any other name would smell as sweet. - that old guy.
Post by: Pryopizm on April 29, 2006, 07:19:54 PM
Given that, I still hate the name. I hate the way it looks and sounds. I hate the logo, it looks like an apple rip-off. Yeah, how unique is that?
This is all just a load of BS. There's nothing unique about Wii except that it isn't a word. It's a ridiculous misspelling of a pronoun and will invoke nothing but apathy among the non-gamers and casual gamers alike. And when it does provoke a response, in my experience, it's generally one of derision.
I don't put stock in conspiracy theories, but one can hope that the joke is on us.
Post by: EasyCure on April 29, 2006, 08:12:31 PM
Also i'll try to stop posting when I should be sleeping so I can go to work the next day, that way I can get all my thoughts into one post.
Guys, I really don't like the name, I just dislike the urinating jokes more. If its your thing, go with it. It was my assumption that this was a community of Nintendo fans and fanboys. Instead of letting such a dumb name divide us, how about we try to keep the general public, the people that don't frequent the internet and have no idea what Wii is yet, from getting to that level of thinking. As dumb as you and I think the name is, would you really want everyone else to start writing it off as some pee joke and never give the system a chance?
We all want our "revolution" to be a success don't we? (ok maybe not Ian because he can't wrap his head around what new gameplay ideas and doesnt see how motion sensing controls could better existing types of gameplay, but I'm just poking fun) So let us be a community and help Nintendo with their "uphill battle."
PS. That is probably the most Hippy thing I have ever said in my whole life.
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on April 29, 2006, 08:24:26 PM
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Originally posted by: Pryopizm
I associate Wii with the words "twee" or "weak" and not so much "wee wee" or "wiener."
Given that, I still hate the name. I hate the way it looks and sounds. I hate the logo, it looks like an apple rip-off. Yeah, how unique is that?
This is all just a load of BS. There's nothing unique about Wii except that it isn't a word. It's a ridiculous misspelling of a pronoun and will invoke nothing but apathy among the non-gamers and casual gamers alike. And when it does provoke a response, in my experience, it's generally one of derision.
I don't put stock in conspiracy theories, but one can hope that the joke is on us.
When compared to Xbox or PS3, it is indeed unique. Perhaps you should read a post a couple pages back that stated the logic of the spelling from a Japanese context, in addition to the fact that "Wii" will not have the same meaning behind it in different cultures (except of course the two "ii" symbolizing togetherness). The name was derived to have universal appeal, meaning and use, that indeed is unique for a gaming console. On your point of "derision", the name was announced 2 days ago, and like the controller it will take time to get used to it and its marketing potential visually. Wait until this revelation can simmer a bit in people's minds and come back in 4 months or so.
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on April 29, 2006, 08:27:57 PM
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Originally posted by: EasyCure
Sorry Bloodworth and anyone else who read my ranting. I've never posted anything that long and I was just kind of in the zone, know what I mean? I'll try to be more thoughtful next time.
Also i'll try to stop posting when I should be sleeping so I can go to work the next day, that way I can get all my thoughts into one post.
Guys, I really don't like the name, I just dislike the urinating jokes more. If its your thing, go with it. It was my assumption that this was a community of Nintendo fans and fanboys. Instead of letting such a dumb name divide us, how about we try to keep the general public, the people that don't frequent the internet and have no idea what Wii is yet, from getting to that level of thinking. As dumb as you and I think the name is, would you really want everyone else to start writing it off as some pee joke and never give the system a chance?
We all want our "revolution" to be a success don't we? (ok maybe not Ian because he can't wrap his head around what new gameplay ideas and doesnt see how motion sensing controls could better existing types of gameplay, but I'm just poking fun) So let us be a community and help Nintendo with their "uphill battle."
PS. That is probably the most Hippy thing I have ever said in my whole life.
Hey that isn't too hippy, personally even though I disagree with you on the name (it has grown on me) you have been one of the few rational individuals to comment on it.
Post by: EasyCure on April 29, 2006, 08:37:18 PM
Though I don't like it, I would be the first one to come up with something unique, quirky, and catchy to make the name better. That's what I wish more people would do then simply dismiss it.
If you read a post in the EA/Madden thread, this one poster had an awesome idea for a comercial spot. I wish I could remember who it was but it was a great idea. I added my two cents to it though, because I felt that as good as the commercial would be to ge the name out there, it would be promoting the sound of the name and not the visual as well. The visual rocks (if you saw the trailer) but its the sound of the name that bugs me. It is awkward to say, like most people have stated already, that's what I don't like. I just can't see myself asking to preorder a Wii. In time I will be more accustomed to saying it outloud, but for now I will stick to repeating it in my head.
Nintendo needs to push the visual as well as the sound of the name for it to work the way they want to. Really emphasize on the community aspect of it as well as the 'wiimotes' that set the console apart. The name really isn't that bad, it just needs work. If they can market it the right way, I will grow to like it more, but until then it's a bad name to say aloud IMO.
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on April 29, 2006, 08:49:36 PM
Post by: Hostile Creation on April 29, 2006, 09:15:33 PM
Yeah, because the marketing needs to be overflowing with original brilliance. Apple's making tons of money. Marketing isn't about being 100% original, it's about being original where it matters and taking good ideas where they can be used.
Associating Wii with iPod is a good thing, because everyone likes the iPod.
Also, the logo is great. Simplistic, but aesthetically excellent. From a design perspective, it's very well made. (Gamecube logo still wins though
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on April 29, 2006, 09:27:45 PM
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From a design perspective, it's very well made. (Gamecube logo still wins though
GC logo was quite cool, though I have to admit the full name wasn't the best. I personally think Wii beats the crap out of GC's name, mainly because it is unique for a console name and doesn't look like a kid's toy.
Post by: Starxxon on April 29, 2006, 10:15:47 PM
Do I really have to explain?
Post by: IceCold on April 29, 2006, 10:37:25 PM
Also, affiliating yourself with other companies always leaves the chance that you will alienate some of your potential userbase. I am just not a supporter of it..
And I thoroughly dislike that white colour.
Post by: Hostile Creation on April 29, 2006, 10:46:21 PM
Companies always partner up and cooperate or compare themselves to one another. It's something that's done in business, a matter of perspective.
"And I thoroughly dislike that white colour."
Good thing they'll have black and green and red and whatever else, as well.
Post by: KDR_11k on April 29, 2006, 10:55:11 PM
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Post by: EasyCure on April 30, 2006, 04:36:45 PM
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Originally posted by: VGrevolution
I agree Easy, Nintendo has alot of work cut out for it to make it sound good, it is foreign to alot of us here in the states and probaly in the UK. E3 should be a good place to see how Nintendo attacks the "sound" of the name. I personally think it would be pretty cool if it was also an acronym which was stated previously, not sure where, but they suggested "Wireless, interactive, innovative". On a side note, I do apologize if I come off a little ticked at some of the people, but I do get frustrated when it is pretty obvious some are not keeping any open mind to the potential of it, instead of obsessing over the negative connotation of the sound "we", and instead see things from a more universal appeal along with marketing potential.
aww its ok there guy, you just need a hug. now THATS a hippy thing to say;-)
by the way, all this speak of nintendo comparing themselves to apple.....I FIGURED OUT THE LAST BIG SECRET OF Wii!!!
The Wii will become an iPod docking station via usb, from which you can d/l songs from iTunes on Wii Wi-Fi connection, and play them on your house speakers. Also you'll be able to d/l iPod original games on the next line of iPod that plays games using a scroll wheel, its GENIOUS!!! they alreayd made iPod with video, why not handle a simple game? when it happens, remember who called it!!!
Post by: Renny on April 30, 2006, 07:27:44 PM
Post by: Kairon on April 30, 2006, 07:50:00 PM
I LURV Conker's Bad Fur Day. I absolutely love it. I was contemplating buying an XBox just if Rare made a sequel (which, obviously, didn't happen on either count). Does my appreciation of Conker's urine jokes, gore, and etc. mark me as immature? Does that game's toilet humor automatically mark it as inferior? Or do pee jokes have their proper place on the mature-conversation-topics pyramid, that tiny tiny "use sparingly" section up top along with the blonde and yo-mama jokes?
I say they do, and trumpet the clarion call of "moderation in all things!" Huzzah!
~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Post by: wandering on April 30, 2006, 07:59:25 PM
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I LURV Conker's Bad Fur Day. I absolutely love it. I was contemplating buying an XBox just if Rare made a sequel (which, obviously, didn't happen on either count). Does my appreciation of Conker's urine jokes, gore, and etc. mark me as immature?
yes.
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Or do pee jokes have their proper place on the mature-conversation-topics pyramid, that tiny tiny "use sparingly" section up top along with the blonde and yo-mama jokes?
That isn't the top of the mature conversation topics pyramid. That's the 'immature' section of some something somethingsomething *yawn* You know what I'm trying to say.
Post by: IceCold on April 30, 2006, 08:25:28 PM
QuoteI didn't mean it that way. I meant that there is a chance that the company that you associate yourselves with has some detractors. There are some people that are against the values of, in this case, Apple, and what it stands for. When Nintendo associates themselves with Apple, then those people would think twice about Nintendo. They are potential Nintendo users, but with this association, they could be alienated. Same thing with Pepsi..
Originally posted by: KDR_11k
Let him use one. PC games are completely overpriced and uncommon in Japan.
Also, I don't believe that Nintendo is similar enough to Apple to be trying to emulate them so. I want Nintendo to have their own identity, and this is not the way to do it.
Yeah..
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on April 30, 2006, 08:28:26 PM
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Originally posted by: EasyCureQuote
Originally posted by: VGrevolution
I agree Easy, Nintendo has alot of work cut out for it to make it sound good, it is foreign to alot of us here in the states and probaly in the UK. E3 should be a good place to see how Nintendo attacks the "sound" of the name. I personally think it would be pretty cool if it was also an acronym which was stated previously, not sure where, but they suggested "Wireless, interactive, innovative". On a side note, I do apologize if I come off a little ticked at some of the people, but I do get frustrated when it is pretty obvious some are not keeping any open mind to the potential of it, instead of obsessing over the negative connotation of the sound "we", and instead see things from a more universal appeal along with marketing potential.
aww its ok there guy, you just need a hug. now THATS a hippy thing to say;-)
by the way, all this speak of nintendo comparing themselves to apple.....I FIGURED OUT THE LAST BIG SECRET OF Wii!!!
The Wii will become an iPod docking station via usb, from which you can d/l songs from iTunes on Wii Wi-Fi connection, and play them on your house speakers. Also you'll be able to d/l iPod original games on the next line of iPod that plays games using a scroll wheel, its GENIOUS!!! they alreayd made iPod with video, why not handle a simple game? when it happens, remember who called it!!!
Hey hugs are always nice :-P. You know you may be onto something, that would be pretty funny!
Post by: Urkel on April 30, 2006, 09:22:57 PM
You know, what if Nintendo ended up calling it the RS, like rumored? Surely, there's no way you can make fun of that name, right?
It certainly doesn't sound at all like the word "arse". Not even a little. And I'm sure there wouldn't be retarded "I'm going to play with my RS?", or "Want to play with my RS?", or "Gee, my RS sure is little", or "I bought a new wand for my RS" jokes.
No, this is the only name in the whole universe that invites immature comments.
As for my personal opinion on the name, I'm rather indifferent. My first reaction was "Why'd they give it a Chinese name?". I'd rather they call it the Rev, but it doesn't really matter. It certainly doesn't warrant this level of outrage. It's just a kinda weird name. Nothing more. Nothing less.
Even though I don't really care what it's called, if we're still getting stupid urine and penis jokes AFTER E3 then I hope Nintendo sticks with the name purely out of spite. Grow up.
(BTW, I'd really like to thank the mods for allowing, like, a dozen different threads all complaining about the name. Maybe somebody will actually think of a new penis joke in thread #13!)
Post by: Starxxon on April 30, 2006, 09:46:51 PM
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Originally posted by: EasyCure
by the way, all this speak of nintendo comparing themselves to apple.....I FIGURED OUT THE LAST BIG SECRET OF Wii!!!
The Wii will become an iPod docking station via usb, from which you can d/l songs from iTunes on Wii Wi-Fi connection, and play them on your house speakers. Also you'll be able to d/l iPod original games on the next line of iPod that plays games using a scroll wheel, its GENIOUS!!! they alreayd made iPod with video, why not handle a simple game? when it happens, remember who called it!!!
Actually, you wouldn't be the first, I called a similar scenario sometime ago, though not here. But I'm happy to see a second person having thought about it!
Iwata, when the Revolution was first unveiled, alluded to something that wouldn't be game related...But at the same time saying that Nintendo was to remain focused on games... So, what if some other company took care of all the non-game stuff?
They want to build a game store with a model similar to iTunes, but they don't have the expertise to build it in-house. Apple has it, they could provide the infrastructure, servers and front-end for the Wii store. And while they are at it, why not sell tunes and movies that can be played on the Wii or transfered to an iPod?
Apple is currently trying to find a way to reach living-rooms, so they can sell TV shows and movies directly on a TV. They cannot go with Sony, because they directly compete with them in many areas, including selling movies and music online. Same thing with Microsoft. Both Sony and MS hope to use their next-gen console to sell movies and music online, thus bypassing the iPod and iTunes phenomena.
If Apple released a Media-Center for the living-room like it's rumored, they would have to compete with the PS3 and XBox 360, which would probably sell for about the same price, but the PS3 and XBox would have tons more games. By making an alliance with Nintendo, they could enter the living-room media-center market, and have tons of cool games from none other than Nintendo! They wouldn't need to release their own machine, the Wii could provide all the functionality needed. iPod games from Nintendo wouldn't be so far behind...
The best argument that can be made for this scenario is that Nintendo and Apple are complementary. They don't directly compete, as Apple doesn't sell games or games system, and Nintendo doesn't want to start selling movies and music themselves on Wii.
Aside from the game store itself, Apple could also build the Wii interface, with part of it being similar to Front-Row.
By some coincidence Apple released, no so long after Nintendo, a small remote included with all intel Macs that's used to control the Front-Row media-center application. They tout the fact that it only has 6 buttons, which is not so far from the simplistic Wii remote design. The Wii remote would be just perfect to control Front-Row, and the motion sensing could have the bonus of enabling variable speed scrolling in long lists.
A $200 TV setup box that has iTunes built-in, can download/stream music, TV shows and movies on a TV screen, that can officially dock an iPod, AND play the Nintendo game catalog, plus all new kinds of games like a next-generation Mario using an evolutionary 3d control device? This would sell like crazy...
I could go on an on about why it would make sense, and what clues can we find about it. But I don't want to look like a lunatic
Actually I stopped believing in my theory sometime ago, seeing I was the only one to see so much into it. Also when Apple announced the switch to intel, I began to think that it wouldn't make much sense since Wii is using a PowerPC. But... Apple has invested millions in producing code written for the PPC, they can't just throw it in the trash when the transition is over...
But here's why I'm starting to believe in this theory again...
Wii could (also) mean "we" as in "We, Nintendo and Apple"
Considering it would be a major alliance between a big Japanese and a big American company, my "WWII minus War = Wii" theory would also make sense...
Apple haters, prepare yourself mentally for when Nintendo drops the "Bomb" in a few days.
Post by: Kairon on April 30, 2006, 10:00:51 PM
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Originally posted by: wanderingQuote
I LURV Conker's Bad Fur Day. I absolutely love it. I was contemplating buying an XBox just if Rare made a sequel (which, obviously, didn't happen on either count). Does my appreciation of Conker's urine jokes, gore, and etc. mark me as immature?
yes.Quote
Or do pee jokes have their proper place on the mature-conversation-topics pyramid, that tiny tiny "use sparingly" section up top along with the blonde and yo-mama jokes?
That isn't the top of the mature conversation topics pyramid. That's the 'immature' section of some something somethingsomething *yawn* You know what I'm trying to say.
I fail to see how Shakespeare's plays were any less masterpieces for his populism and pun-ditry. Would we deny Southpark's value as a cultural satire merely because it contains content that our puritan-police deem distasteful? And what is humor, even toilet humor, but merely another avenue for self-exploration and discovery? And testiing personal boundaries?
Besides, given that humans are the only creatures who are capable of laughter, or punning, or any such abstract irony, how can this be anything but elevating?
Wa-wa, on this point we shall have to disagree. I believe that humor is a valuable tool we have to explore an issue, and should not be ignored or poo-poo'ed.
~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Post by: Kairon on April 30, 2006, 10:06:37 PM
Myself, I've been trying to ponder a future Apple-Nintendo alliance on the portable device market in which GB hardware would be micro-nized to the point where it could included at low cost to an iPod device... or similar such mobile electronics.
~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Post by: Starxxon on April 30, 2006, 11:22:56 PM
What you are saying about the GB/iPod merging can also apply to Wii.
Wii will have all the electronics to play movies and music, and an Apple media-center would have the electronics to play games. Combining both makes sense since you can only do one of these at a time anyway.
Oh, and just another possible clue before I go to bed... What do you think the Broadway and HollyWood code names really mean?
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on May 01, 2006, 12:42:48 AM
Post by: Karl Castaneda #2 on May 01, 2006, 01:49:30 AM
"Squeal like a pig, boy! Wii wiiiiii!"
So yeah, add that to the list.
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on May 01, 2006, 02:31:23 AM
. I may be wrong but pig talk is indeed universal!
Post by: 18 Days on May 01, 2006, 03:21:02 AM
The companies are similar in so many way when you think about it.
Post by: EasyCure on May 01, 2006, 07:31:53 AM
And to who ever asked the hollywood and broadway question, that only adds to this crazy theory.
looks like iGames could be the next big thing. maybe call it WiiGames? nah.
if this turned out to be true, Wii would be incredible. Rent movies, d/l tv shows, music and classic nintendo games. it could take the world by storm. personally i dont like the iPod brand because i dont like trends, and there are mp3 players out there with more features than the iPod, but its not like i completely despise it and wouldn't buy a Wii if they did partner with Apple for the d/l service. Sadly there would be people that would.
Oh and while im thinking of apple and nintendo comparisons, they both LOVE to milk their products for everything its worth. one of the reasons i bought the mp3 player i currently own over apple is that it has fm radio built in, with recording of fm radio built in. at the time there was a certain NYC 'shock jock' that was retiring from FM radio and i wanted to record every show i could. with the ipod i would actually have to buy a seperate peripheral just to listen to radio, and not even be able to record from it. doesnt that remind you of nintendo releasing peripherals to add something to a formula that could of very well been built into whatever it is we're talking about? i know im getting into Ian territory, but i could very well go on and on about nintendo realising peripherals for games that don't need them and we will only use once. sounds like apple with theiPod to me though.
For the sake of being compared to Ian, those really arent my feelings regarding to nintendo at all, i was simply pointing out that someone could argue that comparison while we start spreading rumours of a nintendo/apple partnership. (you know some poeple will take everything Starxxon said as fact)
Post by: Kairon on May 01, 2006, 07:45:43 AM
*ahem*
Deep in the Hundred Acre Woods,
Where Christopher Robin plays,
There's an enchanted neighborhood,
Of Christophers childhood days.
A donkey names Eeyore is his friend,
And Kanga and little Roo,
Theres Rabbit and Pigglet,
Then theres Owl,
But most of Winnie The Pooh!
Winnie The Pooh!
Winnie The Pooh!
Tubby little tub all stuffed with fluff,
He's Winnie The Pooh!
Winnie The Pooh!
Lilly willy silly ol' bear!
Winnie The Pooh!
Winnie The Pooh!
Tubby little tub all stuffed with fluff,
Hes Winnie The Pooh!
Winnie The Pooh!
Lilly willy silly ol bear!
Courtesy of http://nintendo-wii.blogspot.com/
~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Post by: KDR_11k on May 01, 2006, 08:40:16 AM
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Originally posted by: IceCold
There are some people that are against the values of, in this case, Apple, and what it stands for. When Nintendo associates themselves with Apple, then those people would think twice about Nintendo. They are potential Nintendo users, but with this association, they could be alienated. Same thing with Pepsi..
The only people who would care about such a faint relation are Nazis. What the hell do I care that any person at Nintendo uses an Apple computer? As long as Nintendo's game consoles remain the opposite of Apple's products (many and good games, low price, good performance) I don't care. Only if the Wii was like an Apple computer I'd abandon Nintendo in a heartbeat.
And hell, Apple has nothing meaningful to offer to Nintendo. Nintendo doesn't want or need a "home entertainment center", they make a console and Apple can't help them with that. If you want style over substance and media over games, go with Microsoft or Sony. If you want only games go with Nintendo.
Post by: IceCold on May 01, 2006, 02:54:36 PM
QuoteI don't mind the computer thing, and I probably shouldn't have used your quote in my last post. But I do mind when Nintendo gushes about Apple and says they want to emulate Apple. We know who Nintendo is and what they offer. However, many people will think that with the association, Nintendo products are indeed like Apple products. And this could turn people away who are biased against Apple, but had no strong feelings about Nintendo previously.
Only if the Wii was like an Apple computer I'd abandon Nintendo in a heartbeat.
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Post by: wandering on May 02, 2006, 09:19:31 PM
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Ironic isn't it.
Not really, no.
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