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Mafia LXIV: Full Time: Half-Truths and Gorilla Dust
« on: November 26, 2014, 12:12:59 AM »
In a somewhat anticlimactic ending. The final day has concluded.




RedBlue, AKA Don Garber, the Mafia Rule Bender, was killed by the vote.


This, of course, means a victory for the townies.


Surviving Winners:


Khushrenada, the Protector
Hypotheliciously, the Investigator
Ceric, the Vote Changer
lolmonade, the Survivor
Mop it up, Lucariofan, Stratos, and nickmitch, the Townies
and, of course, Not PokePal148








First off, in my defense, I knew going in this ruleset was probably going to favor the townies.


Secondly, if I had it to do over again, I'd probably have redone the random draw so that Khush and Stogi weren't the two main townie roles, because at that point it was pretty much over.


I think the Allocation Order system worked pretty much exactly how I intended, being somewhat confusing and prompting people to strategize using it in their voting. The main flaw is that I had to spend like 45 minutes each night and have a huge complicated spreadsheet to keep that all straight.


I probably should have added a fourth mafia member when I got a couple more people to come in late, and again, the thing I'm most sorry about is forgetting to tell the mafia who each other were until a couple days in.


EDIT: To be clear, since it was somewhat contentious, Ceric used his vote changing power the last night to change Khush's vote to RedBlue, meaning Ceric ended the game at the top of the Allocation Order.
« Last Edit: November 26, 2014, 12:16:31 AM by NWR_insanolord »
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Re: Mafia LXIV: Full Time: Half-Truths and Gorilla Dust
« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2014, 12:15:26 AM »
Really? You forgot to PM the mafia? Hilarious.


Congrats on a game well played, especially Khush and Stogi.
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Re: Mafia LXIV: Full Time: Half-Truths and Gorilla Dust
« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2014, 12:16:33 AM »
the thing I'm most sorry about is forgetting to tell the mafia who each other were until a couple days in.
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« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2014, 12:27:57 AM »
This, of course, means a victory for the townies.

Surviving Winners:

Khushrenada, the Protector
Hypotheliciously, the Investigator
Ceric, the Vote Changer
lolmonade, the Survivor
Mop it up, Lucariofan, Stratos, and nickmitch, the Townies
and, of course, Not PokePal148



Always nice to get a townie win and further establish my townie cred.



Bill McNeal out!

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Re: Mafia LXIV: Full Time: Half-Truths and Gorilla Dust
« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2014, 12:29:08 AM »
BAM!!!  I guessed 2 Mafia in one day.  Sure I died in the end, but hey, I got lucky.

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« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2014, 12:30:05 AM »
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the thing I'm most sorry about is forgetting to tell the mafia who each other were until a couple days in.

Now I wish I had saved that "Oh my, this is delicious" gif.
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Re: Mafia LXIV: Full Time: Half-Truths and Gorilla Dust
« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2014, 12:32:29 AM »
I think this game could have worked...with one more Mafia member...and the mafia knowing each others roles sooner.  It also didn't help that Zero Day gave townies some good clues on who is who.  (Zero Day is Day 1 with no kills.) 

Actually, I would like to know what happened that day, host?

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« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2014, 12:34:06 AM »
Yeah seriously, story time.

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« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2014, 12:47:36 AM »
I'll fill you in on my version of events tomorrow but I'm off to bed now.
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« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2014, 12:48:54 AM »
Day one fucked over the Mafia team. Like all fifa tournaments it was rigged from the start  :rolleyes:
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« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2014, 01:19:59 AM »
That was a tremendous mistake on my part, but at the same time it shouldn't have taken you guys as long as it did for one of you to complain about that.

As for Day 1, I'm going to go ahead and blame the whole thing on Pokepal. If he hadn't incorrectly corrected the vote count that I'd gotten right in the first place it would have been fine.
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« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2014, 01:22:37 AM »
Now that I think about it though, Khush was pretty much playing me the whole time. He's the one who said I should go with the three man mafia, he pushed the boundaries of the power of his role. He's just too damn good at this game that he not only manipulates the other players, he manipulates the host.
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Re: Mafia LXIV: Full Time: Half-Truths and Gorilla Dust
« Reply #12 on: November 26, 2014, 02:05:12 AM »
Three Man Mafia is good if you don't have too many roles with abilities. 
The Mafia could have been more powerful if they knew each other.

Day One gave a lot of clues, but I think I would make a rule no quoting threads with votes, unless you un-bold the vote...otherwise you die.  (You have until the end of the day to correct your mistake.)  That made it very hard to keep count. 


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« Reply #13 on: November 26, 2014, 02:10:40 AM »
Mafia didn't know each other and then waited for two days to figure it out? Khush and I knew each other's role day two and dominated? Insanolord deemed incompetent and both him and pokepal have been banned from Mafia for life?

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« Reply #14 on: November 26, 2014, 02:21:14 AM »
It says something that on day 1 the target of the vote, the mafia hit, and the investigator were all the same person.
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« Reply #15 on: November 26, 2014, 03:02:00 AM »
Now that I think about it though, Khush was pretty much playing me the whole time. He's the one who said I should go with the three man mafia, he pushed the boundaries of the power of his role. He's just too damn good at this game that he not only manipulates the other players, he manipulates the host.

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Re: Mafia LXIV: Full Time: Half-Truths and Gorilla Dust
« Reply #16 on: November 26, 2014, 08:03:00 AM »
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« Reply #17 on: November 26, 2014, 08:55:14 AM »
I like the concept that the Mafia doesn't know each other in Day 0.  In my game I was going to introduce the mafia in stages.  Day 0 no one knew each other.  Day 1 if there was four mafia then pairs of 2 would know each other.  Day 2 a third Mafia member revealed to each pair.  Day Four you know everyone officially.

I do say the Townie to Mafia Ratio was probably a little off.

I decided to keep a pretty low profile this time.  With the Allocation order and how my power work  I decided to only vote if necessary.  Some nights I did mean to but life got in the way when I got home.

On the day I was going to be voted out I reached out to Khush because he was the designated player and I needed him to vote with me or not vote at all.  At that point I could have made a tie and since my allocation order was 2 I would have won it and been safe.  I didn't have to though in the end because Khush had already made a set of alliances.  I had a feeling that had already occurred so, reaching out at that point had two motivations.  I will say I wasn't going to be proactive on that account until I was truly threatened.
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« Reply #18 on: November 26, 2014, 01:54:13 PM »
In the Beginning: Day 1 Recap

Doctor's orders. Is that a clue about my role? Answer: No. The roles haven't gone out yet because this game is never happening.

I wrote this before the game started and then I ended up getting the bloody doctor role. I always want the doctor to protect me and giving me the role seemed like the mafia would get a chance to remove a powerful townie role very earlier from the game. I dislike being a detriment to the team I'm on whether it be townie or mafia and my having that role seemed like a detriment to the townies.

Meanwhile, the survivor role seemed perfectly tailored for me and I was shaking my head at how I was denied that one and given the doctor instead. Believing I would be heading to an early death, I decided to just mess around in the game and make a bunch of soccer jokes that led into NewsRadio jokes when ShyGuy misunderstood the theme.

I thought I'd do my part to help the townies by at least targeting an inactive player or two because no matter what that person's role is, an inactive player is a townie enemy. (I think this game also showed the power of having active townie participants.) Meanwhile Pokepal and Stevey were gunning for me. The stevey thing I'm used to and didn't pay it much heed but the Pokepal vote was an eye-rolling reaction from me. I recalled how he investigated me first in the Godzilla mafia game because, to paraphrase, why wouldn't a player target me first? Because it would be nice to play a game where I don't have to play hard and struggle to survive every day unlike most other players, that's why. His voting for me seemed like a continuation of this annoying mafia habit to target me first.

I decided to reach out to Spak-Spang and tell him my role. I forget what prompted it but it was probably along the mindset that if he was on my side, he's someone that is at least more willing to work with me and keep me in the game. If he's mafia, I was probably going to be targeted anyways so nothing lost there. Spak told me he was just a townie which you always take with a grain of salt. He also asked if I could protect myself. I told him no and that I'd tried asking Insanolord about it and he denied the request. However, I hadn't actually done that and was just assuming that the doctor couldn't protect himself and that's what the answer would be. So, I checked over the rules and roles and saw that the role did not state that I was unable to protect myself. Thus, I sent in a protection order for myself to see what would happen.

As the day continued, I seemed to be in trouble but I had told myself I was going to take a hands off approach to this game and just play for fun. I think at this point, players should know the value I bring to this game and how I can keep it interesting. If they want to get rid of that so soon, so be it. I'll get my revenge when it is revealed I'm the doctor and they just blindly killed off a good townie asset. Plus, if I'm a townie, then there is a good chance the mafia will target. Killing me in the vote exposes them all to a potential hit whereas I would probably shield them by getting a hit sent my way. As such, my plan was to see Dumb and Dumber To and I sticking with my hands off strategy, I walked away from the game and left it to the players decide.

As an aside, I quite enjoyed Dumb and Dumber To. I went in with some trepidation as it seemed to have a lot of middling reviews but I wanted to go when it was first opening and there would be a larger crowd because comedies seem better when you are with a large group as different people have different senses of humour so there will be more laughter which is infectious. I saw Anchorman 2 last year on the Friday afternoon it opened and the theatre was packed. I laughed a whole lot at the film to even though I knew when it was over that it wasn't as good as the first one and re-used too many jokes. Frankly, I found Dumb and Dumber To very enjoyable and I could see myself watching it a few times again. The first one is still a classic. This one didn't have any instantly quotable lines to me "you go and do something like this and totally redeem yourself!". Nor is the ending as perfect as the first one "The town is back that way" but it is still a good time. At one point, I burst out laughing so loud I suddenly wondered if other people would be looking at me strangely but as I quickly glanced through the audience, no one was looking my way and they were all laughing along also. In the end, I have no problem recommending it to anyone if you liked the first. I left the theater in an upbeat mode and giggling to myself about things in it and even admitted I would probably be willing to see it again with someone else if that's what it took for them to see it. So, in my book, that's a success.

Back to the game, when I came home, I saw that I had been granted a reprieve from the vote with Lolmonade taking it 4 to my 3. Huzzah for me. Insanolord hadn't responded about my self-protection so I contacted him and pointed out that in both my pm and the official rules, it did not state I couldn't protect myself. He said that since he didn't state it that he would allow it. Woo-hoo! I just survived the first day! Soon thereafter, Hypotheliciously contacted me stating he was the investigator and had investigated me and then told me to win the game for the townies. Man! Why do I always get the work put on me. I told him we'd work together but I wasn't planning on playing this game very seriously. I also found it kind of funny that now there were two roles that could only be killed by a vote out and I finally had one of them. I could sit back and relax this game. It's about time.
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Re: Mafia LXIV: Full Time: Half-Truths and Gorilla Dust
« Reply #19 on: November 26, 2014, 02:08:40 PM »
The longest paragraph in your post was an "aside" about movies?
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« Reply #20 on: November 26, 2014, 03:01:26 PM »
Soon thereafter, Hypotheliciously contacted me stating he was the investigator and had investigated me and then told me to win the game for the townies. Man! Why do I always get the work put on me.

To be fair, you kinda went against your word and played exactly how I expected you to. Also, as the protector, you pretty much couldn't lay back and play at your leisure because as long as I was protected and kept investigating, we'd win for sure.
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« Reply #21 on: November 26, 2014, 03:27:53 PM »
For the record, he only used his protection power on you one time.
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« Reply #22 on: November 26, 2014, 03:29:39 PM »
The longest paragraph in your post was an "aside" about movies?

That's because it is probably the most interesting part in that post.

Soon thereafter, Hypotheliciously contacted me stating he was the investigator and had investigated me and then told me to win the game for the townies. Man! Why do I always get the work put on me.

To be fair, you kinda went against your word and played exactly how I expected you to. Also, as the protector, you pretty much couldn't lay back and play at your leisure because as long as I was protected and kept investigating, we'd win for sure.

I'm getting to that. Or do you want to see a much larger wall of text?
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« Reply #23 on: November 26, 2014, 03:31:28 PM »
I didn't need to be protected, so good on him.

EDIT: hahaha Khush knowing you, there is nothing I could say to stop you from posting a wall of text. So do it to man. Let's see your thoughts.
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« Reply #24 on: November 26, 2014, 03:38:47 PM »
To Khush's credit, when it became apparent that his role, especially with him in it, was overpowered, we came to an agreement in regard to limiting it. The damage was done after day 1, though.
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