Post by: Karl Castaneda #2 on October 02, 2006, 04:50:13 PM
I think I'm hooked.
Post by: vudu on October 02, 2006, 04:58:45 PM
Post by: Karl Castaneda #2 on October 02, 2006, 05:02:06 PM
Post by: Ceric on October 03, 2006, 05:38:16 AM
As I said I'm sort of on the fence on this one.
Post by: TrueNerd on October 03, 2006, 08:51:27 PM
As for the seriousness of it all, I do kind've agree. It doesn't bother me, but I have also thought the show could use some Joss Whedon influence. Then again, what show doesn't?
Post by: ShyGuy on October 03, 2006, 09:39:04 PM
The Japanese guy needs to mention Nintendo.
Post by: Artimus on October 16, 2006, 06:49:10 PM
And it's serious, but not TOO serious. Hiro provides a lot of comic relief just by his personality. Episode 3 was fantastic.
Post by: Nile Boogie on October 16, 2006, 08:27:49 PM
Indeed it could. It seems to get better with each chapter/episode. No#4 with "Future Trunks" being the best one yet. It has a way's to go but at this pace the only show that I'll watch until January 2007
"Season 6: The Chinese Empire Strikes Back!"
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on October 17, 2006, 01:46:43 AM
Heroes
Smallville
Supernatural
Lost (my favorite show currently)
Jericho (it has potential)
Battlestar Galactica (still as deep as ever)
Survivor (Not one of my favorites and this is the first season I have ever watched since I do not usually care for reality shows)
Post by: ShyGuy on October 17, 2006, 08:29:52 AM
Post by: WuTangTurtle on October 18, 2006, 12:25:28 AM
However that younger brother that thinks he can fly seems like a total noob, couldn't fly if someone handed him airline tickets.
Another thumbs up goes to minorities getting some spots as non stereotypical roles. For instance that blond chick not having a white kid, or the asian guys not being doctors of some kinds.
Oh and a black chick and white guy hooking up, OMG thats blasphemy! lol. Expect the show to be taken off the air. lol.
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on October 18, 2006, 12:38:07 AM
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I'm really lovin this show, it of course has that X-men kinda of thing going but doesn't make it out to be about blue and yellow spandex. It's serious and it hasn't fallen into that dorky Lameness that other supernatural shows have.
However that younger brother that thinks he can fly seems like a total noob, couldn't fly if someone handed him airline tickets.
Another thumbs up goes to minorities getting some spots as non stereotypical roles. For instance that blond chick not having a white kid, or the asian guys not being doctors of some kinds.
Oh and a black chick and white guy hooking up, OMG thats blasphemy! lol. Expect the show to be taken off the air. lol.
I think that is funny in our culture that is more accepted and thus you see it more when a black guy gets together with a white woman, but the opposite is hard to find. In fact the only shows that I watch where a black woman and a white guy are together is heroes and Lost. Not sure about the streotype thing not being in effect, that one Japanese guy is like your stereotypical nerdy Japanese guy.
Post by: WuTangTurtle on October 18, 2006, 11:38:59 AM
Ah I forgot about "nerdy Azn guy". I don't think that one has been used in awhile. I only mentioned doctors becuase i watched some dateline episode about stereotypes and they sat down with that Azn guy from Law and Order, u know the psychologist or whatever. He raised some interesting things he stated all of his roles have been doctors of some kind and that in his long career he has yet to kiss an actress. Which made me think I've seen just about everyone kiss everyone else from girl on girl and even guy on guy, but can't remeber ever seeing a Azn guy kiss a woman unless the show or movie was completely revolving around Azn people.
Wow i think i ranted there a bit too much.......sorry!
Anyone else crack up laughing when the 2 Azn guys were in the alley with those thugs and the one Azn guy says "you don't want to mess with us, my friend here has a power" and then the thug just knocks him out, lol.
Post by: Artimus on October 18, 2006, 02:08:44 PM
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on October 18, 2006, 02:39:55 PM
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Just because a show uses a stereotype doesn't make it stereotypical. The Asians in the show (particularly Hiro, which is amusing in and of itself) are consciously stereotypical, and they will slowly break that mold as the show goes on. We got a hint of this at the end of this week's episode.
Personally I don't have a problem with stereotypes in TV shows, and I do think you are right about that shifting. I do like Heroes in that it is serious without being TOO serious, definately a tough thing to do without falling into the trap of it being too corney or too "realistic".
Post by: Caliban on October 18, 2006, 04:58:52 PM
I downloaded today episodes 1 to 4 and watched all of them, straight.
When Hiro appeared at the end of episode 4 it was so kick-ass, with the katana on his back, like so cool.
I'm also hooked on Eureka, but I have yet to watch it from the first episode because I missed it when it premiered on SPACE (Canadian sci-fi channel), albeit I already have the torrents to download episodes 1 to 12 just so I can watch such coolness from the beginning.
Oh and there's also Dexter, currently downloading it, I'm interested in it after reading its premise on the IGN-Peer blog.
Anyway, back to Heroes, I think you can almost see that there is going to be a team made from the characters that they've focused on except the douchebag with glasses that is father to the cheerleader.
Edit: Actually it wasn't from IGN-Peer, it was from IGN-Matt.
Post by: ShyGuy on October 18, 2006, 08:14:14 PM
I think the geneticist's pixie neighbor is bad though.
Post by: nitsu niflheim on October 19, 2006, 04:45:39 AM
Post by: Ceric on October 19, 2006, 05:20:55 AM
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Heroes
Smallville
Supernatural
Lost (my favorite show currently)
Jericho (it has potential)
Battlestar Galactica (still as deep as ever)
Survivor (Not one of my favorites and this is the first season I have ever watched since I do not usually care for reality shows)
I like to say I wish Battlestar Galactica get condensed some. I fast forward through like half of it because its just dead time and still pick up almost all of the dialog. It's sort of annoying. I should watch Lost but I haven't seen any of the earlier episodes. I've been Casually watching Heroes. Jericho, Supernatural, and Survivor... Wasn't really interested initially.
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Originally posted by: ShaolinKilla
I'm really lovin this show, it of course has that X-men kinda of thing going but doesn't make it out to be about blue and yellow spandex. It's serious and it hasn't fallen into that dorky Lameness that other supernatural shows have.
However that younger brother that thinks he can fly seems like a total noob, couldn't fly if someone handed him airline tickets.
Another thumbs up goes to minorities getting some spots as non stereotypical roles. For instance that blond chick not having a white kid, or the asian guys not being doctors of some kinds.
Oh and a black chick and white guy hooking up, OMG thats blasphemy! lol. Expect the show to be taken off the air. lol.
I think that is funny in our culture that is more accepted and thus you see it more when a black guy gets together with a white woman, but the opposite is hard to find. In fact the only shows that I watch where a black woman and a white guy are together is heroes and Lost. Not sure about the sterotype thing not being in effect, that one Japanese guy is like your stereotypical nerdy Japanese guy.
I think there stereotyping for there type of show. I think its funny and all because I tend to watch a lot of cartoons and how they have the cast mixed up is perfectly natural for a cartoon. In fact they might even have more of the majority in this case then Cartoons tend to now days. Everyone trying to be politically correct so in TVLand it seems that Minorities are more common then the Majorities. Also from what I know about them, these people are more in line with DC's Metahumans then Marvels Mutants.
*skipped bottom posts because I haven't seen this weeks episode yet*
Post by: Spak-Spang on October 19, 2006, 09:03:00 AM
SPOILERS AHEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I will not even complain about acting because I think a show is much more than just acting...it is the entire premise, and I am willing to bet the acting will get better as characters are more defined.
What does bother me is the poorly written stories and the cliches that they rely on too much in the show.
Examples of bad writing:
The young Geneticist whose father died. He comes to believe his father was truly working on something special after doubting his father for years.
He even believes his father was murdered for his research, and has proof because he was threatened, and his father's apartment was raided. But then after four episodes he is crying willing to give up EVERYTHING because one politician wouldn't listen to him? Some conviction this guy has...special since it appears he will be one of the leaders.
The cheerleader that has one of the greatest gifts in the world for her, is also ashamed and freaked out about it. She will never blemish, can't get hurt and yet she is trying to kill herself? Stupid. I personally thought it would be cool if she embraced her power and did the stunts for kicks, that seems to fit more. But then this guy tries to rap her, accidentally kills her. Strips her clothes I guess to rap a dead girl. Hides her body...but not very well. And on the autopsy room they do a cheesy sneak away without the doctor seeing her, and someone she gets home early? It was stupid. But not as stupid as its about to get.
She then decides to do a revenge killing on the guy. Why the guy decided to drive her home is beyond me. He obviously, had to remember killing her, raping her, and dragging her body away...but she asks for a ride home and he says YES!!! Great. Perfect.
I don't even want to touch the storyline with the Hulk ID mother and her son, because right now it is so boring and stupid, I don't want to waste my time.
The Brothers who can fly are interesting, but I have to wonder why the younger brother isn't experimenting and trying to figure how to fly on his own? He just assumes he has to be around his brother odd. Is that just plot device so we can continue to see the politican as a jerk until he finally has a revelation...probably at his brothers expense?
This plot holes do not make the show unbearable as Hiro is still a great character, and the story could any minute get better. But one thing that is truly missing that would make the show better is truly funny comedic moments. So far with haven't had anything funny happen in the show. It has been one dramatic story element to the next.
Something Lost does great is actually have really funny moments involving all the characters. And really is able to take a serious moment and defuse it for a second with comedy. These types of Dramas need that release to help the story move along and stay lighthearted.
Post by: JonLeung on October 19, 2006, 09:53:20 AM
I don't watch much TV, but when I do it seems to be NBC lately. Conan and Leno are always okay to fall back on, Deal Or No Deal has hot women, 1 vs. 100 seemed okay when it premiered, watching The Biggest Loser is strangely captivating (I don't usually like reality shows, but I like this one and I also watched all of The Contender). Yeesh, I even watched America's Got Talent. And now I want to watch Heroes. Makes me wonder why they're complaining about ratings. Should I be watching more ABC and CBS and FOX or something?
Anyway, I hope Heroes has some big freaky plot twist(s). I feel like one of those.
Post by: Caliban on October 19, 2006, 10:03:48 AM
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The Brothers who can fly are interesting, but I have to wonder why the younger brother isn't experimenting and trying to figure how to fly on his own? He just assumes he has to be around his brother odd.
Oh you haven't suspected yet? Oh hohohohohoho, the politician can fly for sure, but his brother can copy the others special abilities.
Post by: Spak-Spang on October 19, 2006, 10:40:54 AM
Post by: WuTangTurtle on October 19, 2006, 12:54:48 PM
I will say though i too did not like the Cheerleader getting a ride with the R@pist/Quarterback and the geneticist guy so quickly doubting himself. It was very unrealistic.
Post by: Spak-Spang on October 19, 2006, 01:14:41 PM
STUPID.
My question is WHY would the Quarterback ride with her. At the end of Episode 3 when she dies, it is obvious she has clothes on...and he hasn't done anything to her yet...and he is surprised and scared.
Yet, the doctor doing the autopsy said she was found naked and dragged hidden somewhere. So he had to of raped a dead person...which most people just don't do...and since she died, there should have been evidence that the autopsy doctor pulled for DNA tests.
He sees her alive at school freaks out. Yet that night when he sees her, he is completely willing to hang with her. GREAT!!!
The whole concept is stupid.
And yeah, the writers admitted that he can mimic powers, but only temporarily.
Post by: JonLeung on October 23, 2006, 09:19:22 AM
The mimicking thing is cool, I guess, but the most farfetched. You can't just borrow someone's genetic traits. As if flying wasn't unrealistic enough, how would you borrow that skill just by being near someone who can? And even if you could, how would the cells in your body adapt fast enough - and yet retain your overall physical appearance? In this case, it'd be more "realistic" to be a total shape-shifter than a selective-gene-borrower.
But of course this is more of a drama and whatever "science" is behind it all is a moot point. That said, I'm intrigued by it, and considering there hasn't been a ton of action yet, that's really saying something - though you guys are right, the occasional odd moments (like the whole Claire/autopsy/car thing) seem more unrealistic than anything else on the show. o_0
What's with the tagline this week? "SAVE THE CHEERLEADER. SAVE THE WORLD." Sheesh. Though I also wonder if Mr. Bennet really is a bad guy or not.
Anyway, I've drawn the recurring symbol on a Post-It note on my computer at work. I've also recreated it by shading cells on a spreadsheet in Excel...I wonder if I can sneak it somewhere without getting in trouble?
Post by: JonLeung on October 23, 2006, 06:21:15 PM
Post by: UncleBob on October 23, 2006, 06:44:06 PM
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He sees her alive at school freaks out. Yet that night when he sees her, he is completely willing to hang with her. GREAT!!!
Well, I can't speak for him, but if I *knew* I had killed someone, then saw them the next day, I'd be wondering what the hell happened...
As far as the micking powers thing... it's a long reach, but perhaps it's something like Chameleon - but instead of his cells altering his skin color, they alter... er... something else. I dunno. It's TV, not science... leave me alone!
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on October 24, 2006, 01:37:10 AM
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Post by: Ceric on October 24, 2006, 04:43:33 AM
Post by: JonLeung on October 24, 2006, 05:20:06 AM
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Without Hiro I stop watching the show. The rest of the characters aren't nearly as good.
I don't know, they're all pretty interesting. Though Hiro (and Ando) do add some light-heartedness to the whole thing. I like how in that last episode Hiro met Nathan and Ando met Niki, though both meetings didn't really amount to much.
Matt and Claire seem the most disconnected to everyone else right now, though they both have the most contact with Mr. Bennett so far, I think.
Post by: Nile Boogie on October 24, 2006, 06:22:44 AM
"Don't think, Feel!"
*Crack being slang for addiction either good or bad, location: Philly
Post by: JonLeung on October 24, 2006, 06:30:09 AM
Post by: MaryJane on October 24, 2006, 11:49:54 AM
To those who don't understand the whole cheerleader and quarterback thing, do some forensic studies, one of the greatest thrills for a rapist is a repeat victim, their desire overrides rational thought, otherwise they wouldn't be rapists in the first place.
I can't wait to see how this pans out, my jaw dropped when I realized the Peter Patrelli's power was to copy others powers. He's like Morph from X-Men. I love the fact that the show is kind of like X-Men(my favorite superhero series) in it's use of multiple powers and problems. The blonde chick is so far the least interesting of all the plots IMO and the best is Hiro.
I hate this show for one, it makes me want to see it more and more. Also the first 30mins is packed full of story and action, then the last 30mins is commercials and cliffhangers. Of course all shows do this, but this show makes it worse since it's so good.
Post by: Ceric on October 24, 2006, 01:43:00 PM
Not Justice League. In fact one episode is the first half of the episode and the next is the next half of the episode.
Also the ~45 minutes of ST:NG: Up to the 30 minute mark develop problem and 30 minute solve problem.
Post by: JonLeung on November 14, 2006, 08:46:23 AM
Post by: MaryJane on November 23, 2006, 09:10:29 AM
I'm not sure I liked just how many people have powers there were quite a few when mohindir opened that computer file, I am very much looking forward to seeing what Hiro does to save the waitress, and where is he now? Is he learning martial arts?? I like that chick with the power of suggestion, I wish we knew more about the black dude that works with her and the cheerleaders dad(sorry I'm bad with names) Who's going to kill the nuclear guy to destroy New York? Is he going to do it himself? WTF is the cheerleader going to do to stop it? Unless, there's some Kirby-esque person we don't yet know about and peter is going to absorb both that persons and the cheerleaders power, swallow the nuclear guy, and then run into a sub-basement with 25 foot thick animantium walls. Who knows, hopefully the powers allocation thing isn't gayy, that's all I'm worried about really.
Post by: Ceric on December 05, 2006, 05:03:58 AM
Post by: JonLeung on December 06, 2006, 05:56:07 AM
New episodes start sometime in January, apparently (though just two or so to finish off the season). Maybe they'll rerun the episodes until then - they could do a few a week.
The creator said he has ideas to let this run for five or six seasons or so. I had hoped it'd be a one-or-two season thing. I don't want to finally see the explosion (or lack thereof) years from now. Though maybe after a couple seasons they'll have a different set of heroes and a different crisis.
Post by: ShyGuy on December 06, 2006, 07:22:46 AM
Post by: Ceric on December 06, 2006, 09:05:40 AM
Post by: MaryJane on December 06, 2006, 09:35:10 AM
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You know they should just wrap up one of them. Peferable the Nikki storyline because it has the absolute least to do with the main story at this point. Nikki's good and Jessica's evil we get the point. Finish it already.
I totally agree, but it seems that they have. Especially since in Peters vision? (maybe he leeched a power off of Sylar without realizing it, but if Sylar can see the future, why didn't he see himself being captured?) didn't include her, her husband, or her son who's power I'd like to see more of, and put to better use than to call his mom.
I like the number heroes they currently have, I don't know about how many were on that list, but the ones they have now are good. I'd like to see Nicki's husband join the main plot, (I like how they went with the total opposite to X-Men's ShadowCat, little white girl to big black guy) his powers are cool. I do agree that it would pretty lame if every season was still about the explosion, that should definitely wrap up this season, but I'd like to see more storylines with the same characters, maybe not always together doing something, maybe like 3 of them do one thing another 3 another, and another 3 something else, then in the (pray with me) 3 hour season finale all the plots interconnect and they save the world. (Yes I am a big X-Men fan). I say stick with the current chars and make new storylines just like my favorite comic book... X-MEN!!!
Edit: I didn't realize the fanboy emoticon would say my post is a train wreck I was more going to this effect:
Edit 2: (sorry my friends don't watch this show, just like they don't like Nintendo, so this is the only outlet for my many ideas)
How did Sylar use his powers through the glass if he couldn't before? How did the short haired girl do it? An on/off switch? If it was the Hatian(who I love now for not wiping the cheerleaders memory) he would have to be there 24/7. It also annoys me that we don't exactly know what the Hatian's powers are... he blocks powers and puts people to sleep... mind control? But then why would the cheerleaders dad need the power of suggestion girl? (I suck with names for some reason the only name I remember is Peter Petrelli). I would love if they ran this show year round, had like subplots during the off-season, like all the people Sylar killed and how he used their powers, maybe a cartoon like the Matrix cartoons whateverthehell they were called. Didn't the painter/Peter's girlfriend have a power? I thought she was one of the heroes, maybe a sidekick like the T-mobile device LOL JK! I mean like Hiro's friend who beat off to Nicki. I am so in love with this show, Heroes, Dexter, Rome (when it finally comes back on), and HOPEFULLY The Tudors(Shotime series about Henry VIII) are the greatest things to hit the boob tube. Makes me happy in the pants.
Post by: Ceric on December 06, 2006, 06:46:16 PM
Post by: Rhoq on December 07, 2006, 03:17:42 AM
Also, Even Sylar appeared to powerless while he was in his cell (most likely due to the team of "Null 'N Void" a/k/a Dad & Haitian), I think the more acceptable explanation is that he chose not to use his powers because he was waiting to get Eden alone so he could kill her, do whatever it is he does with the brains and absorb her power of suggestion. She sacrificed her own life (by committing suicide) to prevent Sylar from gaining her power (which, arguably, could be the most devastating of all of the powers we've been exposed to, thus far, on the show).
Post by: Caliban on December 07, 2006, 04:46:50 AM
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...but if Sylar can see the future, why didn't he see himself being captured?...
Since when can Sylar see the future? He can see how things work, and I think that's how he managed to escape.
Post by: ShyGuy on December 07, 2006, 05:09:14 AM
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Post by: Rhoq on December 07, 2006, 05:44:43 AM
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So does Claire's dad work for the government? Somebody else? Is he ruthless or just misguided?
That is still a mystery. Hopefully we'll find out more once the series resumes on January 22, 2007.
Post by: Rhoq on December 07, 2006, 05:50:28 AM
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So, did Peter have radiation posioning? Is that why he is sick? I'm guessing he came in contact with the human nuke guy and now has his power in his (undiscovered) buffer.
There are a few theories floating around at the moment. The most popular seems to be that "Nuke Man" is being held in the same facility as Peter. But then again, if Peter can possess other people's abilities while he's near them, he wouldn't be affected by the radiation since "Nuke Man:" isn't. It is possible that while his ability is to take on other people's powers, it might not be exact (meaning he might only get 80% of the power, which would explain why he was able to fly when with his brother, but not very well). This could also be a result of his run-in with Sylar at Claire's school. If he only had 80% of Claire's healing power then there still could be some sort of internal injury going on.
Post by: MaryJane on December 07, 2006, 10:06:01 AM
Also who says her dad has power? If he did why didn't the Indian dude have him on the list? He had everyone else, he even called Claire's dad if his list is incomplete it is also somewhat irrelevant because it would also mean that not everyone on it has powers.
The Sylar/Peter fight would be an interesting one, because while Sylar was trying to kill Peter he would be leeching his powers and fighting him with the same ones he's trying to kill Peter with. :: Drool :: Let's just hope they don't CGI it.
Eden's power was the best, which makes you wonder why it didn't work against Sylar, also I believe it is the Hatian who cancels out power, otherwise why did they show him when the mind reading cop was deliberating with the FBI chick (he's probably going to end up in bed with) about why he couldn't use his powers.
Too bad Hiro's gf couldn't survive she was hot, not in the classical sense but I was strangely drawn to her. And her powers were interesting because they mimick my real life
. Claire's dad definitely works for the government, he has too much available to him for it to be someone else, unless it's that dude who corrupted the Patrelli's dad and is working on flyguy atm and bought that painting too. that would explain a few things.
Post by: Caliban on December 07, 2006, 02:28:03 PM
Oh and I totally loved how Hiro said "I have to find/get that sword!", he looked so determined he didn't even care he was facing a T-Rex.
Post by: Ceric on December 07, 2006, 04:25:53 PM
On the whole Haitian thing. While the Dad can Nullify his powers for himself he could no stop him from reading Claire's mind. I think that would be the explanation. Sort of like the Haitian isn't always around when the Dad was dealing with Eden.
I think Peter con Mimic 100% of the person power. He just can't weld it. Also I don't think he had enough time around Claire for everything to fix. Though will he get a second personality around Nikki?
Hiro knows he want die because Future Hiro exists. But on the flipside Future Hiro was in the past and does not necessarily have to come true.
Post by: Plugabugz on December 07, 2006, 09:26:08 PM
If that's true then expect blatant hints and homages!
Post by: MaryJane on December 08, 2006, 09:32:00 AM
Caliban, Hiro can also travel backwards in time... so he can go pre-historic. It might be a sword that was destroyed or lost forever when whateverthehell killed the dinosaurs happened. If he can kill a T-Rex with it I wonder what else it can do. On a side note, despite the movies the T-Rex wasn't existant in the Jurassic age.
As for Nicki I think one of two things happened. She either developed a second personality and only that personality can use her powers of super strength(?) for now, or her sister had super strength and upon her death her consciousness was somehow transfered into Nicki, either way I'm not going to like her character unless Nicki can use the powers herself.
I guess Peter has been having pre-cog dreams about himself before.
I still say Claire's dad doesnt have any powers, Eden listened to him because he helped her, or the Haitin used his ability to convince that he did, and that made her loyal, or she believed in the cause like Gabriel in The Patriot. Why didn't she use her powers on mohindir(sp?) she just chose not to, she's wasn't evil, although she was exactly good either.
Post by: Caliban on December 08, 2006, 10:11:45 AM
I know a T-Rex isn't from the jurassic period, I mentioned it as a joke.
Post by: Plugabugz on December 09, 2006, 03:00:53 AM
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I don't know what that name is supposed to mean plug but it means absolutely nothing to me... so hint away :-).
He was the ninth doctor in doctor who.
Post by: MaryJane on December 09, 2006, 11:14:01 AM
but as mentioned in the new topic I'm about to start Claire's little brother is going to play John Connor in the new Terminator Series on Fox, I guess they are writing out his character completely, maybe this means Claire will be able to stand on her own and not be bound by her family in attempts to save the world!
Post by: Ceric on December 09, 2006, 02:35:14 PM
So their is going to be a Terminator Series... Hopefully it will take place after 3.
Post by: UncleBob on December 09, 2006, 03:44:03 PM
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Originally posted by: Ceric(I suck with names for some reason the only name I remember is Peter Petrelli).
It's the same reason Peter Parker, Clark Kent, Bruce Banner, et., al. are so easy to remember.
There should never be any question as to who the series is about. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AlliterativeName
Anywhoo, Remember, Peter (not Parker) has had special dreams for awhile. In the first few episodes, he'd have dreams of flying and in the "Six Months Ago" episode, he apparently dreamed about the car accident before/while it happened. Peter's dreams mean something - he's not just leaching them from someone else.
Post by: Ceric on December 09, 2006, 03:58:40 PM
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Originally posted by: Ceric(I suck with names for some reason the only name I remember is Peter Petrelli).
It's the same reason Peter Parker, Clark Kent, Bruce Banner, et., al. are so easy to remember.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AlliterativeName
Anywhoo, Remember, Peter (not Parker) has had special dreams for awhile. In the first few episodes, he'd have dreams of flying and in the "Six Months Ago" episode, he apparently dreamed about the car accident before/while it happened. Peter's dreams mean something - he's not just leaching them from someone else.
Already pointed that out. Slow to the party and please explain why you changed my quote? I've already named multiple characters in my different posts.
Post by: UncleBob on December 09, 2006, 04:04:33 PM
I didn't change your quote from way above, I just cut out the one line from it that I was talking about to mention why (at the time, at least) you remembered Peter so well.
Post by: MaryJane on December 10, 2006, 02:04:52 AM
I said that, something is wrong with my memory... I'm not sure what,
Post by: UncleBob on December 10, 2006, 02:16:31 AM
Post by: Ceric on December 10, 2006, 02:28:26 PM
Post by: MaryJane on December 11, 2006, 07:57:29 AM
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Post by: SixthAngel on December 30, 2006, 03:30:36 PM
Anyway, about Peter. I think that his power is that he is always connected to all the other Heroes. That is why dreams about them and seems to be drawn to save the world and help them. His carreer is even a very empathatic one. Since he is connected to them that is also why he gains their powers when he gets close. I think he is sick because he was close to Sylar and it seemed to leave something behind. In one of his dreams Sylar is big component.
Post by: JonLeung on January 10, 2007, 09:06:06 AM
Post by: Caliban on January 10, 2007, 12:29:51 PM
Luckily Rome starts on the 14th, in the meantime I will be watching SG1 and SGA, and further down I am expecting Sopranos, Eureka, and Dexter.
Post by: ShyGuy on January 22, 2007, 05:51:02 PM
Once again, Hiro was the best part of the episode. Nice, effortless special fx on Nicky's husband reaching through the glass in prison.
Post by: nitsu niflheim on January 23, 2007, 02:17:28 AM
Stuff like this has killed shows. I mean Commander in Chief was doing really good when it started, but it was put on hiatus for a while and when it came back on people didn't bother because it had been so long since it was last on.
Serial shows should be treated in part like a mini-series.
Post by: JonLeung on January 23, 2007, 06:35:05 AM
I mean, geez, last episode revealed The Invisible Bum and the Deal Or No Deal Heroes Preview (brought to us by Ghost Rider) revealed that Wi-Fi Woman is coming soon. I guess Wi-Fi Woman's been in the graphic novels too but I think those powers are ridiculous. I already have to suspend my belief to accept that Hiro's genes somehow enable him to travel through time by his own willpower. Though I guess giving them silly names like I just did there doesn't help, and we already established that we shouldn't nitpick the realism.
I do like that in the last episode, a few more characters met each other. Good that Zach's back (I thought they were simply going to write him off the series when he got his memory wiped) and "the Haitian" knows for some reason that Claire ought to remember stuff. Perhaps now Claire will be a more interesting character (and she looked hotter for some reason I can't fathom).
Post by: Caliban on January 23, 2007, 03:05:42 PM
Post by: MaryJane on January 24, 2007, 03:53:32 AM
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Originally posted by: JonLeung
I still like the show but I'm worried about an excessive number of heroes with ridiculous powers.
"the Haitian" knows for some reason that Claire ought to remember stuff. Perhaps now Claire will be a more interesting character (and she looked hotter for some reason I can't fathom).
I also worry about too many Heroes, but the show is doing well so far with Hero management, 2 heroes died before the break, and we are getting introduced to two more so far this time around.
Why shouldn't the Haitian know that Claire remembers stuff? He told her he wasn't going to erase her memory, then he said that she had to keep it a secret from her father. He also wants to use his powers to save the world, he knows they need Claire, and therefore wouldn't want her to forget everything that happened to her.
I loved that episode, I was hoping Hiro would go back in time to get the sword, I think stealing it from Linderman is kind of lame in comparison, but it might open an interesting plot sideline, because he isn't going to be too happy when he realizes his sword has been stolen, it's also fairly obvious he's going to have powers also, and that he's going to be the "Lex Luthor" of the series, rich, socially powerful, political, and powers... hmm maybe more the kingpin in that respect, although kingpin didn't exactly have powers, his strength was gained in the natural way whatever you get my point.
The Nikki storyline, while still fairly boring, got a little more interesting in that Nikki can use her powers without being Jessica.
Wifi girl as she's being called would be interesting when teamed up Nikki's son.
Anyway, the episode also opened up a lot of new questions, but I'm hoping for the best.
Post by: Ceric on January 24, 2007, 09:34:25 AM
Since Peter is invisible he won't be able to leave town and then he'll absorb Radioactive Mans powers and Level New York. I'm glad I already kicked them out of the union. Those Fast Food Nazis.
Edit: The Nikki Storyline needs to die. In fact she could just die. Any storyline that gets to far away from Hiro or Claire's Dad needs to die.
Post by: ShyGuy on January 25, 2007, 06:32:09 AM
Post by: Ceric on January 25, 2007, 11:01:02 AM
Post by: MaryJane on January 26, 2007, 10:25:06 AM
I hated never seeing "The Hand" in Inspector Gadget, but at least you saw his hand, and cat, and heard his voice.
Although this show has surprised me many times over in implementing things I didn't think I would like (like the entire show itself).
Shyguy: it would seem so, without actually appearing on the show he's been a hinderance to the heroes a twice already that we know of.
I just thought that it's very likely that Claire's dad works for him, whoever her dad works for has to be very rich, and secretive, so i think it's either the government or Linderman. If it is Linderman though that doesn't bode to well for the heroes since he knows a lot about them already, and knows how to negate their powers, and the Haitian (although I classify him as hero) works for him, the black guy version of shadowcat owes him a favor, and there would just be a lot of bad things for them.
Post by: ShyGuy on January 26, 2007, 03:24:22 PM
Post by: wandering on January 26, 2007, 04:52:11 PM
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I think he should be the villain you never see but people always talk about.
Nah. They just need to make sure that, when we finally do see him, he's awesome. In other words, he should be played by Sir Ian McKellen.
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I alway pictured Inspector Gadget's Dr. Claw wearing a mask that looked like the CLAW symbol.
He actually looks like this.
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 27, 2007, 05:31:10 AM
QuoteI now wish I never looked at that picture. I always thought Dr. Claw would look alot more evil and dangerous in my imagination. Sir Ian McKellen indeed. what a disappointment.
Originally posted by: wandering
Because NBC was kind enough to offer episodes for free online, I have now watched every episode of this program. It isn't bad. Reminds me of Broken Saints, in parts.Quote
I think he should be the villain you never see but people always talk about.
Nah. They just need to make sure that, when we finally do see him, he's awesome. In other words, he should be played by Sir Ian McKellen.Quote
I alway pictured Inspector Gadget's Dr. Claw wearing a mask that looked like the CLAW symbol.
He actually looks like this.
Post by: Ceric on January 27, 2007, 07:09:48 AM
Post by: MaryJane on January 27, 2007, 07:17:35 AM
Post by: ShyGuy on January 29, 2007, 06:23:48 PM
Post by: JonLeung on January 30, 2007, 01:53:09 AM
For some reason George Takei (is that his name?) wandered into my memory a minute or so before he appeared. o_0
Lots of parenthood in this one. Hiro found by his dad, Claire finding her real mom, D.L. trying to raise Mica, and Matt finding that he and his wife have a baby. Now I'm surprised that Mohinder was in this episode but he didn't have any flashbacks of his dad. I guess if you count that Nathan is taking Peter seriously the episode could also be seen as a real family-themed one. Kinda neat that it was likely written that way, and good that we can follow multiple storylines.
Claire's pyro-mom is making me fear the whole thing about too many "Heroes". Though Mohinder did say there were 36 on the list...so if Dr. Suresh did find them all, there will only be about that many (some have died before). But that still seems like too many; we're likely halfway there already.
Post by: Caliban on January 30, 2007, 02:49:39 AM
Post by: JonLeung on January 30, 2007, 03:44:36 AM
Of course, if powers are genetic and/or hereditary as has been implied, maybe he does have something. I guess we'll see, hopefully not too soon, just because of my hesitations about too many superpowered people being introduced. This shouldn't be too much like X-Men (in terms of quantity)! And this certainly isn't Mutant X (in terms of quality, or lack thereof)!
The previews of the coming episodes make it look like Mr. Bennett's head may be blown up by Sylar. It could happen as soon as the next episode. That's a real shame.
Post by: MaryJane on January 30, 2007, 05:54:36 AM
The thing I'm starting to realize about the fear of too many heroes, is that one a lot are likely dead, and they're aren't going to find them all in one season. And it likely will be like X-Men, there are a lot of mutants, but the story revolves around a few main characters with a supporting cast floating in and out of the storyline. That's what I would hope for anyway. Also there are likely to be heroes whose powers are somewhat worthless in the scheme of things. If you've ever seen the movie Sky High you'll know what I mean.
The Nicki storyline just got worse if that's even possible with the introduction of the psychiatrist, the only good thing would be if she worked for Linderman.
Hiro's dad; it would be pretty bad ass if he was the samurai from the past. It's likely he does have powers as the do seem to be hereditary, but then why didn't Nicki's dad have powers? Besides it being suggested he was either a pedophile or "just" physically abusive, he was a normal person.
I mostly wondered about the others that Invisible man trained. Imagine if he's Claire's dad, he was training her mom, one thing led to another, and bam we have Claire.
Post by: ShyGuy on January 30, 2007, 05:55:48 AM
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Originally posted by: JonLeung
Do we really need spoiler tags? Maybe there should be one in the title of the topic.
The spoiler tag was there for dramatic effect!
Post by: Ceric on January 30, 2007, 07:27:09 AM
Post by: Pale on January 30, 2007, 07:32:05 AM
This may have already been said as this is the first time I've dived into this thread.
If that is the case, Claire is screwed.
Post by: ShyGuy on January 30, 2007, 10:00:07 AM
Post by: MaryJane on January 30, 2007, 11:06:32 AM
Pale; the point wasn't brought up, but it could be true, that would just bring her adopted mom into question, she seems to have no idea of what's going on with anything, so it's also possible that HRG has had her memory periodically altered as well. She seems so unconcerned about a daughter that went through such a horrible thing as watching her supposed best friend die.
Oh, Claire is super hot.
Post by: Ceric on January 31, 2007, 04:54:55 AM
Post by: MaryJane on January 31, 2007, 02:14:52 PM
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 31, 2007, 06:04:40 PM
Cause if he does, I think he was just forced into a position to show us what it is.
Post by: ShyGuy on January 31, 2007, 06:37:46 PM
Post by: Pale on February 01, 2007, 01:39:56 AM
Also, why would the Haitian have two powers?
Post by: MaryJane on February 01, 2007, 01:41:42 AM
Oh, I just remembered something, how did the mind reading cop know the black guy was haitian? Even if he heard him speak his accent is kind of generic West Indian. Did I miss something?
Post by: segagamer12 on February 01, 2007, 04:38:40 AM
So I only seen one episode so far, had to go change a tire in the middle of the marthon cuz dad broke down, anywyas I got to see the one last night on sci-fi where they "save the cheerleader" as they kept saying. I heard it was a good show, my mom even watches it, but never tuned in cuz I didnt know what it was about. anyways sorry for like not reading up first I dont ususaly do thjat but I really couldnt contain it this show is awesome I had to express that. ok carry on and pretend you never saw me.
Post by: MaryJane on February 01, 2007, 04:54:51 AM
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Originally posted by: segagamer12
I heard it was a good show, my mom even watches it, but never tuned in cuz I didnt know what it was about.
It's about Heroes.
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 01, 2007, 05:14:01 AM
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Originally posted by: ShyGuy
I thought he had a power to negate other people's powers, and showing the Haitian in the background was just a mislead.
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Originally posted by: Pale
I agree with ShyGuy, because he always leaves the room when something is going down...
Also, why would the Haitian have two powers?
Oh okay, well that makes sense. I just never thought of it that way before. The Hatian was always around when people lost use of their abilities so I just fell into the trap of assumptions that they hoped the rest of the audience would fall into. Every time he'da tell the Hatian to wipe someones memory he always has to leave, or when he wanted whats her name to suggest someone to do something he would leave the room. I can't believe I didn't get that on my own.
Post by: Ceric on February 01, 2007, 05:57:11 AM
Some of the full Episodes
If you like Ugly Betty I think the whole show is on the Website as well.
Post by: couchmonkey on February 02, 2007, 04:51:53 AM
I think it would be nice if certain humans remained "ordinary", it creates interesting character development possibilities. As in X-Men, how do norms react when they learn that some people have super powers? I'm personally hoping Linderman and...oh, I can't remember his name, the Indian guy, remain powerless. Also looking forward to Linderman's ultimate unveiling.
Post by: JonLeung on February 02, 2007, 05:03:41 AM
Post by: MaryJane on February 02, 2007, 01:34:36 PM
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Originally posted by: JonLeung
I don't really get why people think Mr. Bennett (HRG is such a silly name) has powers. The Haitian is always present when someone's power is dampened, and if the brief glimpse in the "next episode" teaser is to be believed, he may be killed off by Sylar very soon. Unless he has abilities like cloning himself like Multiple Man or coming back from the dead, we won't see any such power at all. Then again, if he really is Claire's biological dad maybe he could come back from the dead if he has a similar power, except it really looked like his head will blow up which is probably fatal.
JonLeung is such a silly name
jk btw.Anywho, I still say HRG has no powers. Until otherwise shown I say he's "ordinary". Oh and KDR if no one else Zach? Claire's guy friend doesn't have powers, and hopefully his character sticks around, I said it before and I will again, but I also hope for non-powered main characters in the show. I think they alluded to the black chick who is torn between Peter and the painter having powers. I could be remembering wrong.
Post by: JonLeung on February 05, 2007, 06:12:14 AM
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Originally posted by: Ceric
I got it very very early, as noted in this thread.
Some of the full Episodes
If you like Ugly Betty I think the whole show is on the Website as well.
I'm surprised that I didn't see that earlier. I missed most of the very first episode, I'm glad they still have it up there. I hope they still do by the time I get around to it this week.
Post by: JonLeung on February 05, 2007, 02:02:46 PM
But we did find out about Claire's real dad, OMG.
Post by: Ceric on February 06, 2007, 04:51:40 AM
I was wrong HRG, which is how they refer to him in the trivia during the show, it seems isn't the one that suppresses powers. Is it just me or is this becoming all in the family... Next we'll find out that Nikki is related to Peter as well... Why not.
Also I'm getting to really like Dr.Who's character, names allude me this time.
Hiro is still the number 1 reason to watch.
Post by: JonLeung on February 06, 2007, 04:57:45 AM
Post by: IceCold on February 06, 2007, 08:16:13 AM
Post by: MaryJane on February 06, 2007, 01:05:59 PM
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Originally posted by: Ceric
Next we'll find out that Nikki is related to Peter as well... Why not.
Hiro is still the number 1 reason to watch.
1. Because they had sex.
2. Agreed.
So it turns out the HRG had no powers hmm... Score: Main character without powers, but still looked pretty bad ass when he shot Sylar AWESOME!
I thought Zach wouldv'e had a different reaction when he saw what happened to Claire's adopted mom. He shouldv'e put two and two together like Claire did and been like. "Is that what happened to me?" LoL I'm not a writer but you get my point.
I didn't think Hiro's sister was hot...
It's a little weird for me seeing Claire's mom because I remember her as the AIDS carrying, child abandoning, slut from Nip/Tuck. She played the character so well that how I remember her lol. Anyway, I only saw the show today I watched after coming back from the "doctor's office" and the ending really blew my mind to see who Claire's dad was. Also seeing Peter in some kind of (although momentary) control of his powers. I'm also glad he didn't have to become a scumbag to use his powers, it wouldv'e been hypocritical if the painter could NOT be a drug addict but Peter had to become heartless to use his, I think the latter is worse in a number of ways although not all I suppose. mostly because of what he was using lol
Post by: JonLeung on February 06, 2007, 02:42:16 PM
QuoteWhen? "Jessica" and Nathan had sex, I remember that, but Peter only got it on with Simone.
Originally posted by: MaryJaneQuote1. Because they had sex.
Originally posted by: Ceric
Next we'll find out that Nikki is related to Peter as well... Why not.
Post by: Caliban on February 06, 2007, 03:56:12 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v26/Caliban/NCC-1701.png
http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/library/ships/article/70377.html
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 06, 2007, 06:12:14 PM
Post by: MaryJane on February 07, 2007, 11:40:53 AM
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Originally posted by: JonLeungQuoteWhen? "Jessica" and Nathan had sex, I remember that, but Peter only got it on with Simone.
Originally posted by: MaryJaneQuote1. Because they had sex.
Originally posted by: Ceric
Next we'll find out that Nikki is related to Peter as well... Why not.
Oh yeah... I confused Peter and Nathan cuz I was still thinking about him being Claire's dad.
I care that Lost is coming back on! Not as much as I do about Heroes, not even close as a matter of fact.
Caliban, all I thought was, "I wonder why the license plate says NC-17?" lol.
Post by: Nile Boogie on February 07, 2007, 02:04:38 PM
Post by: JonLeung on February 08, 2007, 03:34:11 AM
Maybe he'll be able to help her out, possibly putting more strain on his own marriage?
I still think the best episodes were the "Homecoming" one where Sylar attempts to get Claire, and the episode right after, "Six Months Ago" where we learn more about Sylar's "origins". Also, I think those episodes covered Hiro's attempt to save Charlie which was cool too.
Post by: Ceric on February 08, 2007, 08:23:31 AM
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Originally posted by: Caliban
If anyone had their attention at the license plate on the car that Hiro's dad and sister left after their reunion they would have found an easter egg:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v26/Caliban/NCC-1701.png
http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/library/ships/article/70377.html
Actually since the last letter doesn't fit on the license plate that could be any of the Enterprises. Though it doesn't matter.
Also on the Peter thing, Nikki could still be part of the family if Peter's father got around like there brother they would have never known.(Either of them.)
Post by: Caliban on February 08, 2007, 03:00:12 PM
"Following the destruction of the NCC-1701, Kirk and his officers were instrumental in saving Earth from a mysterious probe (as chronicled in Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home). As a reward, Kirk (who was demoted to captain as punishment for disobeying orders and taking the NCC-1701 to the Genesis Planet) was given command of a new U.S.S. Enterprise, a virtually identical (from the outside) vessel with the registry number NCC-1701-A. This began a long tradition of continuing the NCC-1701 registry number through successive generations of Enterprise which in some timelines continues until at least the 26th century (see Starship Enterprise)." - Wikipedia
Post by: JonLeung on February 09, 2007, 06:38:44 AM
QuoteWe've already seen Nikki's father but I get your point.
Originally posted by: Ceric
Also on the Peter thing, Nikki could still be part of the family if Peter's father got around like there brother they would have never known.(Either of them.)
Though I wouldn't want it to be one big family. You'd think it'd be easier or too easy for Sylar/Mohinder/Chandra/Mr. Bennet to track everyone down if this was the case.
Post by: Ceric on February 09, 2007, 12:50:22 PM
Post by: MaryJane on February 09, 2007, 02:51:18 PM
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Originally posted by: JonLeungQuoteWe've already seen Nikki's father but I get your point.
Originally posted by: Ceric
Also on the Peter thing, Nikki could still be part of the family if Peter's father got around like there brother they would have never known.(Either of them.)
Though I wouldn't want it to be one big family. You'd think it'd be easier or too easy for Sylar/Mohinder/Chandra/Mr. Bennet to track everyone down if this was the case.
The original previews for the show suggested that they all shared a connection, if I remember correctly. I also hope it's not a big family type of deal but if it is and it's done right, I wouldn't mind too much, it would be better than all the adults were bitten by different types of radioactive bugs.
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 11, 2007, 05:37:02 AM
Post by: ShyGuy on February 11, 2007, 07:39:27 AM
Post by: Ceric on February 11, 2007, 09:10:20 AM
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Originally posted by: MaryJaneQuote
Originally posted by: JonLeungQuoteWe've already seen Nikki's father but I get your point.
Originally posted by: Ceric
Also on the Peter thing, Nikki could still be part of the family if Peter's father got around like there brother they would have never known.(Either of them.)
Though I wouldn't want it to be one big family. You'd think it'd be easier or too easy for Sylar/Mohinder/Chandra/Mr. Bennet to track everyone down if this was the case.
The original previews for the show suggested that they all shared a connection, if I remember correctly. I also hope it's not a big family type of deal but if it is and it's done right, I wouldn't mind too much, it would be better than all the adults were bitten by different types of radioactive bugs.
I don't know. Radioactive bugs would be interesting. In fact bugs from space that tattoo that pattern on its victim. Then they'll ruin it by saying it was sent from an alien species who knows the future of the human race and is trying to save it. Come to find out there are trying to clear us out and take the world for themselves.
Post by: JonLeung on February 12, 2007, 04:33:52 AM
QuoteA connection, sure. Some shared destiny, some fate, you know, some major problem that they would all be involved in preventing.
Originally posted by: MaryJane
The original previews for the show suggested that they all shared a connection, if I remember correctly. I also hope it's not a big family type of deal but if it is and it's done right, I wouldn't mind too much, it would be better than all the adults were bitten by different types of radioactive bugs.
Connection =/= relation. "Connection" doesn't even have to equal similar origins...though here we know that it's supposedly something genetic and trackable. Genetics may make one think that this means something that runs in families, but they've already thrown genetics out the window so they could easily avoid a familial thing. I can understand split personalities and strength (Nikki/Jessica) and I can suspend my belief a little for regeneration (Claire) but I don't see how genetics can explain seeing the future, control of and teleportation through time and/or space, flying without wings, phasing through solid material, etc. We've already discussed the mangling of science. I just think a total "family" thing is dumb. It makes them out to be a group of predetermined special people, not individuals trying to cope with having these powers and finding each other and their purpose. The "everyman" aspect is what makes this appealing...the whole empathy of the characters and such. It's advertised with "Are You On The List?", not "These People Are Born Special And That's Why They Have Cool Powers That You Don't."
On a side note, though it's clearly debating the screwed up science...if D.L. can phase with his clothes on, and Hiro can teleport with his clothes on, how come when Claire's clothes rip, they don't regenerate? >_> If genes extend to clothes then Nikki/Jessica could wear different things too. o_0
Post by: Ceric on February 12, 2007, 05:45:06 AM
While Claires on the other hand is a very localized power. She can't heal with a touch and it doesn't make sense. She just heals. It shows that she has to set things in the right place so it's probably considered a form of cell regeneration. In fact if her power is heightened she probably die of Cancer.
I go on through more people but I can rant.
Post by: JonLeung on February 12, 2007, 05:49:31 AM
Post by: MaryJane on February 12, 2007, 10:23:00 AM
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Originally posted by: JonLeung
Forget that I brought it up, which I knew I shouldn't've anyway. Heroes is supposed to be more of a drama than a realistic sci-fi anyway.
Damn I was about to get all technical on how flying without wings is genetically possible if you can simulaneously alter all the cells in your body to become lighter than air, of course then flying would be restricted to wind gust so it would be gliding, but if there was a way to manipulate you body further to create sails of sorts, or another propulsion method which of course wouldn't be difficult if you could change your cells.
Ceric said what I was going to say about why Claire's clothe's don't regenerate, and I'm glad they don't.
I'm unfortunately going to miss tonight's episode.
But I'm going to download the torrent tomorrow morning and then watch it after work, so until then...
Post by: matt oz on February 12, 2007, 04:22:05 PM
For a minute, I thought Sylar would empathize with the new hero, being that he told Sylar he finally felt important and purposeful and whatnot, just like we learned about Sylar in the '6 months ago' episode. But instead of an interesting plot development, they just continued the completely flat characterization of Sylar as the cold-blooded killer who wants to hoard all the powers.
I'm just glad whiny little Peter wasn't in this episode. People need to throw him off the sides of buildings more often. That was awesome last week.
Post by: JonLeung on February 13, 2007, 01:29:20 AM
I could see why the episode was called "Run!" I realy felt like things were getting worse for everyone. Though Matt's encounter with Jessica was kind of neat, I was disappointed at what he did at the end. I was disappointed in Nathan. I was sad for Claire, whose all four parents are flawed in some way. It's kind of tragic about her adopted mom. Mohinder will clearly soon be in danger now that Sylar is hanging out with him. Ando is an idiot, Hiro is in trouble, Nikki is useless, and heck, everybody else was useless in this episode. At least Peter is trying to do something right but he didn't show up in this episode.
Maybe, like I said, as a drama, we're bound to get caught up in their lives, and with all the negative stuff that happened or is happening, that's probably why I didn't like this one.
It wasn't all bad, because of the Jessica and Matt encounter (Jessica actually looks hot!) but I would hope that next week's episode will be better, or at least feel better, and it wouldn't be too hard.
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 13, 2007, 05:19:09 AM
As far as Sylar and Mohinder, I bet Mohinder is gonna eventually have contact with HRG really soon and Sylar's charade<sp?> will be over really quick. Luckily for them the hatian will also be very close by.
And Matt, I'm not at all surprised at what he did at the end, only he should have put the suitcase back up in the ceiling. When he heard the cop say that Matt wouldnever wear a badge again, he decided to take this investigatioon into his own hands. It might look like he was stealing the diamonds to keep for himself, but instead I think he is going to find out who Linderman is and attempt to find out what is going on. Use the diamonds as a bargaining chip, but once again, he will get himself in over his head yet again.
Post by: JonLeung on February 13, 2007, 05:26:50 AM
Post by: Ceric on February 13, 2007, 10:09:51 AM
Claire's Mom is a piece of work. Her adopted parents really are the better set by far.
Think if Sylar got Peters abilities. The ironic part is that when Peter gets close to him he should get all of Sylar abilities as well to Augment his own. Peter will become, if he keeps things up, what Sylar wants to be without killing. Which means they'll face off in the end.
Also MaryJane, you could arrange you molecules in such a way to make yourself have magnetic poles you could nullify the effects of gravity by pushing off of the earths magnetic field. Something else to think about.
For the record, every decision Matt makes is wrong most of the time.
Post by: JonLeung on February 14, 2007, 01:50:00 AM
QuoteYou're forcing my hand here.
Originally posted by: Ceric
Also MaryJane, you could arrange you molecules in such a way to make yourself have magnetic poles you could nullify the effects of gravity by pushing off of the earths magnetic field. Something else to think about.
You can come up with reasons HOW a being could fly like Nathan does. (In fact, in some cases it's not even flying...there was that one time Peter copied his abilities and was standing in the air.) Instant launching, propulsion, gravity negation, yadda yadda. But if you really want to explain the technical stuff behind it, it's still not realistic. You could have all these flying-friendly features in every cell, but could there be so much there that wouldn't've been noticed by a doctor at some point in Nathan's life? And that he'd have perfect control of his powers, since he obviously doesn't make a practice of flying? Even birds need to learn how to fly.
I don't think I believe in evolution (or I'm not supposed to) but from what I understand, the evolution of eyeballs in animals is like this:
1. over several generations, some skin cells on the "face" of an animal develop sensitivity to light.
2. over several more generations, the skins cells fold in, concave/dimple-like, so that the cavity of light-sensitive cells can determine the direction of the light.
3. over several more generations, the cavity becomes deeper, so they can more easily tell where the light is coming from, and then eventually the cavity of the light-sensitive cells become a spherical opening.
4. over several more generations, the surface of the light-sensitive cells develop a sort of mucus that focuses the light, so they can see the light more sharply.
5. and then after several more generations, the mucus layer develops into a vitreous layer, with a ball that gives muscular control over the visual focus, rods and cones to see definition and colour, an eyelid to cover it, eyelashes to keep the dust out, etc.
It's not like some slug-thing gave birth to a slug-thing with developed eyeballs all of the sudden.
Evolution is mutation over MANY generations. Whether specialized or accidental, it has to do with survival of those that have an advantage to survive long enough to breed and pass on their differences. That's how I understand this theory.
As I said, you might explain how someone flies. But genetically, how did they get such a sudden difference in cells that no one noticed? The only way Nathan would be able to fly is if several generations of people before him were likely to be killed if they didn't take to the air. Someone would jump higher than their father, or negate gravity enough for some longer "air time", until finally someone like Nathan is born who can suspend themselves in the air and rocket away.
Ignoring the time component involved (he could've had his cells altered if you don't buy Dr. Suresh's "cusp of evolution" idea), I think it's still ridiculous that he'd have the control. And you'd think after flying away from Mr. Bennet that he'd be exhausted, as I'm sure the energy he requires wouldn't exactly be minor. And yet, he's chipper at that moment, from the exhileration of flying that should've tired him out. There are so many flaws in realism, is it worth trying to explain?
Realistic "powers" by evolution would be minor enhancements of things we can already do, so minor it's unlikely to be noticed as being inhuman. Higher jumping, better vision (perhaps night vision), better hearing, faster (but not extremely quick) healing, quicker thinking, stronger and/or faster muscles, more stamina, etc.
I'd really like to hear someone's explanation for the more ludicrous powers like Hiro's time altering and teleportation ability. It's a wonder that when he goes back six months that he doesn't miss the planet entirely, as the galaxy is constantly in motion, and the galaxy itself moves. You're telling me that genetically, you can distort the space/time continuum, AND also have enough control that your cells don't scatter or tear apart and that you don't end up out in space or physically in something that was there before? All of the sudden how he takes his clothes with him but not a chunk of his surroundings such as the floor are the least of our concerns.
You see my point now? HOW the powers might be possible is not the focus of this show.
Post by: BiLdItUp1 on February 14, 2007, 02:02:08 AM
Anyone else psyched for Linderman next week?
Post by: BiLdItUp1 on February 14, 2007, 02:05:24 AM
Post by: Ceric on February 14, 2007, 03:09:06 AM
Personally, I'm down with initial Creationism with Evolution afterwards.
Post by: Shecky on February 14, 2007, 05:36:57 AM
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Originally posted by: JonLeungI actually thought Sylar did pretty well. Sure, he was continuing to be a killer, but he convinced Mohinder that he was this guy Zane. Okay, forget that, I can't believe he just "hid" the body in the back, he didn't even cover it up, WTF.
Cause everyone knows blood is odorless... (I'm agreeing with you)
The show's "never ending" nature prevents me from being interested. However, is it still in doubt that they are all tied to an experiment? I think the fact that the bio company was telling the successor of the "list" to STOP was a big hint that they were behind it, never mind that there is this men in black feel to the cheerleader's father. The rampaging killer would be the classic experiment gone wrong. Hence why they would trap it to study it instead of kill it. All this is from early in the shows life. They may have thrown other things out there to lead off this path, but it's likely a ploy to get you to forget so they can just pop back to this path later.
Post by: wandering on February 14, 2007, 05:46:44 AM
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Originally posted by: Caliban
Actually the Enterprise, where Sulu was part of and also the one shown in the original TV series, did not have a letter. If you check the ship pics from the second link that I put, you will see that the license plate is really the first Enterprise.
"Following the destruction of the NCC-1701, Kirk and his officers were instrumental in saving Earth from a mysterious probe (as chronicled in Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home). As a reward, Kirk (who was demoted to captain as punishment for disobeying orders and taking the NCC-1701 to the Genesis Planet) was given command of a new U.S.S. Enterprise, a virtually identical (from the outside) vessel with the registry number NCC-1701-A. This began a long tradition of continuing the NCC-1701 registry number through successive generations of Enterprise which in some timelines continues until at least the 26th century (see Starship Enterprise)." - Wikipedia
You are correct. The original enterprise had no bloody A, B, C or D.
Though I'm surprised the Enterprise used in the first three films had the same serial number as the one used in the series. I had forgotten that. In The Motion Picture, they make a big deal of the fact that they're using a new ship.
Post by: JonLeung on February 14, 2007, 06:15:15 AM
QuoteYeah, I got into this thinking it'd be a one-or-two season thing and be done with. I still hope so, despite the creator saying that he has ideas for five or six seasons.
Originally posted by: Shecky
The show's "never ending" nature prevents me from being interested.
Within the show, there are only a couple weeks until New York supposedly goes boom. So if they did stretch it out to more than a couple seasons most likely they'd have other issues (and maybe a new set of "heroes", since part of the charm of the series are their attempts to cope with the powers and the consequences). But how can you top a catastrophe like New York blowing up?
Post by: MaryJane on February 14, 2007, 11:06:31 AM
2. what bio company telling what successor of the list? HRG works for the only "company" I can think of, and they want to find the list, or at least the people on it, which is why he didn't kill Mohindar. He's also going to learn of Sylar's partnering with him, because they are sure to be following Mohindar, why would they just let him go?
3. The show can continue with "normal" problems like Sylar trying to kill everyone on earth by stealing the powers of some super(as in stronger than the rest) "hero". A school perhaps? The show is somewhat like X-Men, you may recall when (I forget the guys name) came back in time to infect wolverine with that virus because his body naturally produced anti-bodies. Also Peter still hasn't gotten the scar that future Hiro refered to. I do hope however the blowing up New York plotline ends this season.
4. I was kind of bored with this episode, perhaps I just went in with my expectations too high.
Post by: Ceric on February 15, 2007, 04:29:11 AM
Post by: JonLeung on February 15, 2007, 06:46:10 AM
QuoteHmmm, I wasn't sure if he said "scar" or "scarf"...if Peter is well on his way to mastering the abilities of people he's encountered, including Claire's healing, I wonder why he'd get a scar, which sounds like it'd be a significantly noticeable one on his face. Most be one heck of a facial injury that he'll get soon, then.
Originally posted by: MaryJane
Also Peter still hasn't gotten the scar that future Hiro refered to.
Post by: Ceric on February 15, 2007, 08:20:18 AM
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Originally posted by: JonLeungQuoteHmmm, I wasn't sure if he said "scar" or "scarf"...if Peter is well on his way to mastering the abilities of people he's encountered, including Claire's healing, I wonder why he'd get a scar, which sounds like it'd be a significantly noticeable one on his face. Most be one heck of a facial injury that he'll get soon, then.
Originally posted by: MaryJane
Also Peter still hasn't gotten the scar that future Hiro refered to.
Could be linked to a power or traumatic event. Some heroes that shapechange subconsciously keep a some identifying mark. It makes for a good plot point.
Post by: ShyGuy on February 19, 2007, 06:01:59 PM
I don't know if I buy Ted the cop holding a gun on Mrs. Bennet and her son. Not very heroic.
Post by: JonLeung on February 20, 2007, 01:59:44 AM
QuoteI think you mean "Ted, and Matt the cop". I think Matt's been making many poor decisions, or just thrown into really bad situations, but they'll get some answers next episode. Or they'll get somewhere with Mr. Bennet, anyway.
Originally posted by: ShyGuy
Yay, another character dead! Less plot threads = better.
I don't know if I buy Ted the cop holding a gun on Mrs. Bennet and her son. Not very heroic.
I always figured that Peter's dream wasn't literal, or that it won't pass...I mention that since Simone was in that dream...(besides the fact that some characters seem to be standing around pointlessly even when Peter and Nathan are aware of the danger.)
Hopefully Ando's not written off. Maybe he'll come back and help Hiro somewhere somehow? And did you catch the Stan Lee cameo? It's about as big as in most Marvel films, and he actually has a line.
Post by: Caliban on February 20, 2007, 04:32:37 AM
I hate Sylar, he's annoying, but I did like to see him get those noise headaches.
Peter is becoming incredible, he's awesome.
The confrontation, albeit short, that Clair had with her dad was also great.
The Stan Lee scene was ok I guess. What would be cool is if Richard Dean Anderson (MacGyver) would appear in a scene with Sylar...the fixer vs the fixer.
Post by: MaryJane on February 20, 2007, 11:36:39 AM
I liked it a lot when Claire stood up to her dad, not only because it showed strength in her, but it also brought some humanity to HRG, he may go about it incorrectly but in his heart he's trying to protect his family.
I see a showdown between Sylar and Peter as imminent.
I wish Hiro would get the sword already, and I'm personally not going to miss Ando, I never really liked him.
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on February 20, 2007, 12:37:22 PM
Post by: Caliban on February 20, 2007, 02:27:39 PM
I too want to see Hiro develop more, his character has been stalling, but with what happened in this episode I think we are finally going to see some change.
I also can't wait to see the aftermath of Simone's scene, and also what is happening at Claire's house.
Ando was an ok character but I think he's going to be ditched for good.
That WiFi chick just so totally did not fit in with the others, just look at how she was dressed, and then when she was holding that needle-gun with that outfit she did seem like some futuristic scifi chic which was so totally out of context...I don't know, she just seemed awkward to me.
There was something today that just sprung in my head, the "Save the cheerleader, save the world" episode/message/mission just made sense to me now that I see Peter training to control his newly absorbed powers, if he hadn't saved her he would not be alive when he crashed onto that Taxi.
Also, I'm seeing a duality between Peter and Sylar, it's not about good or bad, both can absorb others powers, Peter can absorb them in a non-violent way, while Sylar is the oppposite, one is life and the other is death...I think both are going to end up dead from their final confrontation, if there is going to be one.
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on February 20, 2007, 02:33:12 PM
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Originally posted by: Caliban
Well Dexter ain't much of a hero either lol, but both are still more likeable than the weasel that Sylar is.
Dexter is my hero though! He is the ultimate anti-hero, hero!
Post by: Ceric on February 21, 2007, 06:03:31 AM
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 21, 2007, 06:25:12 AM
Post by: Ceric on February 21, 2007, 09:43:39 AM
Post by: Caliban on February 21, 2007, 10:45:14 AM
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Originally posted by: GoldenPhoenix
Dexter is my hero though! He is the ultimate anti-hero, hero!
Oh he's my favourite most-radical-anti-hero too, I just meant it in the most genuine, innocent, truest sense that heroes don't kill.
When Mohinder develops this "cure", Sylar will surely reveal himself and kill him. By then Sylar will most likely have a big collection of powers, but then won't Mohinder suspect these deaths because they happen everytime they visit one of these "special humans".
Post by: MaryJane on February 23, 2007, 11:00:20 AM
Big Dexter fan right here! Love the show, the psychological aspects of the show are amazing for lack of a better word.
Peter isn't going to go bad, that would be ridiculous, he's the face of the show in a lot of ways. The story shifted to him suddenly maybe because the actor who plays Hiro didn't win that award he was up for.... SCANDALOUS!!! . Sylar isn't going to be good because once you go to the dark side there's no turning back... unless your name is Anakin Skywalker . Ooo what if it is a family thing, and Peter and Sylar are fraternal twins and the mother didn't want Sylar because "he had an evil look in his eye" so they grew apart seperately but are connected through their powers they are similar. i just wanted to join the parade of crazy theories
Watcching this show on Monday nights almost makes the weekend feel longer, gotta love it.
Edit: Made longer
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 26, 2007, 06:47:47 AM
*!!SPOILERS!!*
The flashbacks were great, starting with the misleading "you'll be working with one of them" teaser. I thougt they were gonna mention the Hatian but he wasn't the one. Now we know why the Invvisble man has been running, and why they thought he was dead. We see Mr. Nakamuras involvment in all of this along with a childhood Hiro. But the most incredible part of the episode was the Nuclear man scene when HRG(Bennett) tries to administer a sedative, and Claire to the rescue. When she exited the house I was literlly like Holy Sh!t O_O. OMG What an intense scene. And I really hope that they don't shift all focus away from Bennett and his family now that he has been erased. He really turned out to be the good guy in all this and it would be sad to not have him influencing events anymore. You would honestly think that this should be the type of episode you have before a mid-season break or even a season finally. I can't wait for next weeks episode. Heroes has just been shifted up a gear.
/*!!SPOILERS!!*
Post by: Caliban on February 26, 2007, 06:39:07 PM
I liked the young Hiro appearance, playing his gameboy haha so cute.
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 26, 2007, 07:37:03 PM
Also like I said before, the Claire scene before, during & after the "doors were blown off" was very intense. I wonder how much of a memory wipe was done on Bennett and why 'whats her name' was alive again in the preview for next week "wanna shoot me again" !!WTF? I thought she was dead.
Post by: nitsu niflheim on February 27, 2007, 01:31:55 AM
Post by: Caliban on February 27, 2007, 03:13:00 AM
Btw, that chick that was treating the mind reader (whatever his name is) is freakin' HOT. I wonder what her powers will be.
Yeah that scene with nuclear man and Claire after she gets out was pretty cool.
Post by: Ceric on February 27, 2007, 04:36:17 AM
Also why was Ando in a police uniform in the preview?
I'll be glad to get back to Hiro though. He is still by far my favorite storyline.
Post by: ShyGuy on February 27, 2007, 04:42:28 AM
Good episode, liked the fact that they focused on one story thread. Isn't everyone at the Bennet house going to die of cancer now? The chick treating the mind reader is the Wifi girl.
Post by: MaryJane on February 27, 2007, 05:39:12 AM
Really good episode.
Save the cheerleader save... Texas? lol
I wonder if Hiro's father knows that he has powers? Why didn't he understand what Hiro wanted when he confronted him with his sister? I also wonder why Parkman and Bennet for that matter let that guy who works for the company escape? The cops and fire department came, how easy would it have been for Parkman to subdue him? Or just read his mind? Instead he ends up being captured. That was the only part of the show I didn't like.
I can't wait to see what Mohinder does to Sylar, perhaps Mohinder does have a power if he can subdue Sylar, or perhaps he's doing it willingly unaware that Mohinder is on to him?
Post by: Caliban on February 27, 2007, 06:20:23 AM
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Originally posted by: ShyGuy
The chick treating the mind reader is the Wifi girl.
No way, lol the first time I saw her I was not impressed.
Post by: Renny on February 27, 2007, 07:01:50 AM
C+
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 27, 2007, 07:08:57 AM
As far as Parkman and Bennett, I don't think they let him escape. I think he was in charge and Matt Parkman(the ex-Cop) went willingly. They probably offered him a job, seeing how desperate he is to maintain a life with his wife, to use his mind reading powers for the good of the company. Matt will replace the Haitian who in turn replaced the invisble man. I'm pretty sure atleast HRG (bennett) will have some sort of cance as he did recieve a pretty nasty burn on his arm when dealing with Nuclear man(we really gotta remember these peoples names :P
. But more importantly, how are they gonna explain to all the neighbors how thier house became a Nuclear Waste Zone(soon to be yellow taped and covered in a giant plastic bubble), and how Claire(the communities favorite cheerleader) just walked out of an exploding house and survived atleast long enough to hug her family. They all had to see her start to heal, and there is no way that they could have memory wiped an entire neighborhood.Is there a new comic up on the website? can someone link to it? I only found out about it yesterday cause someone linked me to it. And I'm pretty sure that Wifi girl IS NOT the same girl that is treating Matt at the "Company" as she is in VEGAS and Matt and HRG is in Texas.
Post by: Nile Boogie on February 27, 2007, 07:20:07 AM
Post by: ShyGuy on February 27, 2007, 07:57:32 AM
Post by: Nile Boogie on February 27, 2007, 09:59:48 AM
Post by: TrueNerd on February 27, 2007, 05:35:54 PM
Post by: MaryJane on February 28, 2007, 01:47:31 AM
They showed the back of Lindermans head in the preview and TiVo's info on the episode says Nathan and Linderman have a face to face meeting. so he is an actual person.
Post by: Ceric on February 28, 2007, 06:38:15 AM
Post by: Caliban on March 04, 2007, 04:40:37 PM
Post by: BiLdItUp1 on March 04, 2007, 06:38:14 PM
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 04, 2007, 07:28:33 PM
OMG @ the ending of this episode. Now I can't wait to see what happens next episode....
too bad that won't be for another 5 weeks
*SPOILER ALERT*
There is some serious ownage going on in this episode
listed in order:
Sylar = owned by Mohinder
The Haitian = owned by Claire
Artifact Inspector = owned by Ando
FBI = owned by Jessica
Mohinder = owned by Sylar
Heroine = owned by The Painter
Bennett(HRG) = owned by The Company
The Sword = owned by Hiro
NYC = owned by Nuclear Bomb
Claire = owned by The Haitian
*Grandma's calling the shots!!??*
Jessica = owned by Nikki
Nathan = owned by Linderman
Peter = owned by Sylar
Post by: Caliban on March 05, 2007, 03:05:24 AM
I really liked seeing Sylar being pawned by a cup of tea, that was histerical.
I really don't think that Peter got seriously owned, he has the healing power and he also has powers that Sylar can be easily defeated right now, however I think that the invisibility won't work on Sylar's hearing power, but I do think that if Peter can use his Space/Time powers then he is safe.
I wonder if we will see Linderman showing his power or if we will see him as someone that wants to get his own power even though he is a normal human.
Ando's entrance was awesome, I never saw it coming, kudos to Ando and also for Hiro now that he has the kensei katana, and he looked like he meant buisness this time that he saw the desolated New York city.
That woman that I think is hot, she's got some nasty wicked power, and to boot her personality works perfectly with it, she's a freak of a bitch.
I wonder if Mrs.Pettreli has any power of her own.
I didn't like the fact that Sony got their mitts in this episode...Nintendo get your Wii in this show.
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 05, 2007, 03:30:53 AM
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I didn't like the fact that Sony got their mitts in this episode...Nintendo get your Wii in this show.
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that Heavenly Sword(PS3) was shown off in this episode and and it looked like one of those fake games you see in movies and T.V. shows. Really good almost fake looking graphics, no real or believeable gameplay.
Oh and Peter did get owned, even if it ends up being only temporary. He did lose a lock of hair and this is most-likely where he gets the scar that "Future Hiro" was refering to.
And about Isaac (The Painter) Do you think he just painted his own death. Remember Hiro already saw him dead, and Sylar already has his Ph # and address
Too bad for the 5 week break till the last 5 episodes though. Atleast the final episode of Chapter 1 is two hours long.
Post by: BiLdItUp1 on March 05, 2007, 04:08:54 AM
Post by: Caliban on March 05, 2007, 05:49:29 AM
I think that even though Isaac painted his own death and so now he knows, I'm guessing he is going to let himself die because he killed Simone.
How can Peter have a scar if he can heal himself?
Post by: ShyGuy on March 06, 2007, 03:35:04 AM
Also, can anyone make a complete list of Peter and Sylar's abilities?
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 06, 2007, 05:31:05 AM
QuoteWe can try, I'll start;
Originally posted by: ShyGuy
Also, can anyone make a complete list of Peter and Sylar's abilities?
Peter: Power Absorbtion
Time Manipulation - Future Hiro
Healing Factor - Claire
Invisibility - Invisible man
Telekenisis - Sylar
Flight - Nathan Petrelli
Precognitive Painting
*might also have: Cryokinesis & Photographic Memory*
Sylar: Visual Dissection (knowing how things work by looking at them)
Telekenisis(when focused is a laser finger)
Arctic Freeze(Cryokinesis)
Super Hearing
Liquification
Photographic Memory
Sylar eventually has the power to paint the future and Peter eventually meets Nuclear man.
Peter will also eventually have everything on Sylar's list too, since he is in close proximity with Sylar.
And if Sylar manages to get into Peter's brain, Sylar will also have everything on Peter's list too.
Post by: Ceric on March 06, 2007, 06:57:19 AM
Sylar also has laser finger.
Post by: Caliban on March 06, 2007, 07:25:26 AM
Peter can paint the future.
Sylar, in the early episodes, did he not have super-speed and an ice ability too?
Edit
Wiki to the rescue: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylar . How could I have forgotten about memory-woman, sheesh.
Also, Peter can read minds too.
Post by: Ceric on March 06, 2007, 08:17:55 AM
Post by: TrueNerd on March 06, 2007, 08:54:05 AM
And why is there a SECOND stupidly long break for this show? Does NBC hate me?
Post by: Caliban on March 06, 2007, 09:14:08 AM
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Originally posted by: TrueNerd
And why is there a SECOND stupidly long break for this show? Does NBC hate me?
That's how long it takes for that lock to grow back on Peter. /sarcasm
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on March 06, 2007, 09:19:03 AM
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Originally posted by: CalibanQuote
Originally posted by: TrueNerd
And why is there a SECOND stupidly long break for this show? Does NBC hate me?
That's how long it takes for that lock to grow back on Peter. /sarcasm
Yeah I really hate these mid-mid season breaks, which is why I wish more shows would do what Lost or 24 does, where they either play all the episodes consecutively or at the very least have only 1 mid season break!
Post by: JonLeung on March 06, 2007, 03:21:16 PM
As I said before, I love the show, but I don't want it to drag too long.
Also, how necessary are the webisode comics? I only read one. Supposedly the wi-fi woman does a whole lot there; in the show, she only had two very brief appearances. I was wondering why she wasn't with Matt and Ted when they stormed the Bennet home, and where she is now.
Shapeshifter lady reminds me of Hilary Swank... EDIT: Supposedly she's more of an illusion-creator than a shapeshifter, my bad. I didn't notice that she supposedly hid Simone's body briefly. Also, I missed the "helix symbol" arranged in rocks on a table when Ando and Hiro were blocking the door. Guess I shouldn't be building up EXP in Final Fantasy VI Advance while watching TV.
Post by: ShyGuy on March 06, 2007, 03:51:37 PM
Post by: wandering on March 06, 2007, 04:45:14 PM
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I'm also disappointed by Lindermann's appearance a tad.
I dunno. Malcolm McDowell is no Sir Ian McKellen, but he's still pretty cool.
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Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that Heavenly Sword(PS3) was shown off in this episode
Man, I wasn't really interested in Heavenly Sword before, but, now that I know it's the game of choice for multiple personality disorder afflicted psycho killers...
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 06, 2007, 05:19:54 PM
As for the second season break, I hear its because this show is taking really long to film episodes(2 weeks*) and they are trying to not make the special effect look too cheesy(like the melting stuff fx).
*2 weeks filming an episode must mean really high production values. Most shows that only last an hour wrap up for post-production after about 4-7 days from what I hear.
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on March 06, 2007, 05:52:37 PM
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Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
Each season will deal with a different set of people and different scenarios. Some of our favorite characters might not survive this season and others may have cameo or guest star appearances in the next season. Mohinder said that there are people all over the world. So I expect someone to still be hunting them down (The Company, Mohinder, Sylar or even Peter).
As for the second season break, I hear its because this show is taking really long to film episodes(2 weeks*) and they are trying to not make the special effect look too cheesy(like the melting stuff fx).
*2 weeks filming an episode must mean really high production values. Most shows that only last an hour wrap up for post-production after about 4-7 days from what I hear.
Doesn't Lost take quite awhile to shoot? I know each episode is dang expensive!
Post by: MaryJane on March 07, 2007, 05:42:31 AM
Unfortunately circumstances did not allow me to watch the episode until just now.
This isn't the first time Hiro has gone to an apocolyptic future, perhaps he can still go back and save everyone? Or perhaps the show will just pick up from Hiro's current storyline, that would be pretty awesome.
I'd be disapointed if subsequent seasons didn't deal with at least some of the main characters of this season (mainly, Claire, Peter, Hiro, and Nathan). If the Petrelli mom has powers, then it is likely that Linderman also does. So far everyone with powers has been below in Nathan and Peter's generation or younger. Perhaps Linderman really is Peter and Nathan's (or even just Nathan's) father and that's how she knows so much(and how their children and grandchildren have powers, but then do Nathan's legitimate children also have powers? We haven't seen them in awhile). Maybe the Petrelli mom is working against Linderman with her own organization! Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.
I want this show to go on forever. Can no one see the potential of differing plots? Why does it all have to be about New York City blowing up? Is NYC the only major city in the world? Are there no other problems that can be faced? Can no new powers be created, the potential for a show like this is nearly limitless. As long they continue to do things in the manner in which they are currently doing them I see no reason for the show to continue until the inevitably "jump the shark". This is just like X-Men, what if they had decided oh well they stopped Apocalypse, let's stop now. No Phoenix saga, and all the other amazing things that took place during the series, people coming from the past and future to effect differnt mutants in various manners engaging in different arcs and stories all entertaining and flowing nicely within the main story.
I'm with the thought that Peter won't be able to completely to heal the wound that Sylar is about to give him, perhaps because of the intensity of it, or merely because Sylar will be able to do something to prevent him from healing it. I'm hoping for a showdown of the proportions of the nuclear episode with Claire having to inject the nuclear dude with the tranquilizer. I don't mind the breaks too much as long as they result in the break between seasons being shorter, giving the series a more continuous feeling.
As for the PS3 showing up, not surprising. They showed the original Gameboy then the PS3. Hiro and Ando were driving a Nissan Versa, the Haitian and Claire were in a Saturn Ion. Different sponsors get different things I suppose.
Edit: Clarified a thought.
Post by: UncleBob on March 07, 2007, 11:00:50 AM
Post by: nitsu niflheim on March 08, 2007, 02:06:53 AM
Post by: Ceric on March 08, 2007, 09:32:05 AM
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I didn't even realize they were playing a real game...
Thats because unlike a "good fan" you didn't have the interactive web up as well. :P
Post by: ShyGuy on March 12, 2007, 07:35:30 PM
Post by: MaryJane on April 04, 2007, 02:23:59 PM
At the end of the video it suggests that you go to itstimetosavetheworld.com to see another exclusive clip, that clip deals with HRG and doesn't really show anything special. If you're feeling deprived like me though, it's good just to watch it. The URL brings you back to nbc.com just so you know, that's where the video is posted.
Post by: Karl Castaneda #2 on April 21, 2007, 06:45:02 PM
Post by: Nile Boogie on April 21, 2007, 07:42:06 PM
Also I believe this will be the fastest selling DVD box set of all time.
Post by: ShyGuy on April 24, 2007, 08:20:42 AM
Post by: Ceric on April 24, 2007, 09:42:53 AM
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Heroes returns, but the episode felt a little weak. I'm glad that Painter died, less plotlines to clog up the show. The ending was awesome, and next weeks show also looks to be awesome.
I'm glad that Nikki and Co. finally intrigrate with the main story line. Though I wouldn't miss them if they disappear tomorrow. Also any episode that has little Hiro in it is normally weak. Why didn't they take th opportunity to kill Sylar?
Post by: ShyGuy on April 24, 2007, 10:39:39 AM
Post by: Shecky on April 24, 2007, 12:06:25 PM
And with that old guy using the kid to rig the election... he seems more of one those that went astray, using powers inappropriately, than the other way around.
Post by: Nile Boogie on April 24, 2007, 04:56:17 PM
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He sure beat the computer up good...
And with that old guy using the kid to rig the election... he seems more of one those that went astray, using powers inappropriately, than the other way around.
That's a pretty good call. Did they mention that on the show when I fliped back to 24?
Post by: Shecky on April 25, 2007, 01:01:45 AM
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Did they mention that on the show when I fliped back to 24?
Not that I'm aware of.
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 30, 2007, 06:57:11 PM
All I have to way is WOW and Peter FTMFW, what a f#(kN badass.
I want to see what happens next in the 5 years from now future.
Post by: that Baby guy on April 30, 2007, 07:18:01 PM
Post by: ShyGuy on April 30, 2007, 07:23:11 PM
Post by: that Baby guy on April 30, 2007, 07:41:38 PM
If you've been following the graphic novels, you'd know that there have been people with special powers since at least the Vietnam War, and probably longer. What's interesting to know is that there had not been a huge outbreak, nor widespread knowledge of people with special abilities, until this five years in the future, wear it seems like an everyday occurrence. I was a bit surprised about the kid that sucked all the oxygen out of the air in this episode. Just hearing about it made me wonder what good that could do. I suppose he'd be a pretty awesome fire-fighter.
Post by: Ceric on May 01, 2007, 03:27:12 AM
Post by: Nile Boogie on May 01, 2007, 05:26:32 AM
Post by: JonLeung on May 01, 2007, 01:33:25 PM
It's like he thought he'd leave the world as it was for the opportunity to bang Ali Larter. I mean, sheesh... Priorities, man!
I know a lot can happen in five years, and while it was a very interesting episode, I'm not so sure that would be what the future ought to be. It seemed overdone in a few respects. And the whole "hunt the people with different genes" sounds like an X-Men plotline.
What it does bring into question is, what's the connection between Linderman and Sylar? And let's not forget Eric Roberts' character...
I haven't been reading the online graphic novels or whatever. Maybe I should. That wi-fi woman has been pretty useless in the show itself (I think all she did was bring Ted and Matt together and hasn't appeared since), but I hear she has a much bigger part in the online graphic novels.
I haven't seen much of Missy Peregrym's work, but she reminds me of Hilary Swank for some reason. Or am I out of it? In any case, she's hot.
Post by: Caliban on May 01, 2007, 04:55:52 PM
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on May 01, 2007, 09:47:28 PM
Post by: ShyGuy on May 02, 2007, 06:17:24 AM
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on May 02, 2007, 08:54:04 AM
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Originally posted by: ShyGuy
Maybe the Haitian was around when it was supposed to heal.
Still wouldn't it heal when he wasn't around the Haitian? Lol
Post by: ShyGuy on May 02, 2007, 09:06:40 AM
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on May 02, 2007, 09:12:56 AM
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Maybe the Haitian was around for a couple of months and the scar formed.
Post by: SixthAngel on May 02, 2007, 10:45:37 PM
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I thought bad-future Peter was overly cynical, and that garish scar was laughably overdone. He had clearly encountered Hiro before, and has control over his time-stopping and time-travelling powers. Why couldn't HE go back in time to fix things?
Hiro needs his sword to control his time travelling powers. I would assume that Peter needs the sword as well, he does only use Hiro's power when he is right next to the sword.
Post by: UncleBob on May 03, 2007, 01:40:29 AM
Future Hiro sent our Hiro back in time to kill Sylar thinking that it was Sylar who went 'splodie and killed Ando (and half of New York). But, of course, we find out it was Peter (which we 'knew' it was anyway). So Hiro is going to go back and try to kill Sylar, but it won't do any good because Peter will go ka-blooey anyway. Someone posted that the creators of the show have "six seasons" (or, five more seasons, if you will) plotted out. Last Monday, we went five years into the future. Concidence? Not in this show. - Good episode though.
Post by: Ceric on May 03, 2007, 03:25:09 AM
Post by: Shecky on May 07, 2007, 03:20:12 PM
Also, how bad are these heros that after five years they couldn't figure out what was going on or what happened??
I see how they basically made crazy boy and president boy the same tussle (mom and all). Clever
Post by: that Baby guy on May 07, 2007, 04:01:53 PM
Post by: Caliban on May 07, 2007, 06:18:20 PM
Post by: ShyGuy on May 07, 2007, 07:13:08 PM
Good episode. I was starting to like Sylar.
Post by: Ceric on May 08, 2007, 04:29:17 AM
Post by: Caliban on May 08, 2007, 03:35:08 PM
QuoteReleasing an EM pulse instead of going nuclear, remember how NuclearMan (forgot his name) did that to escape with Claire's father and the MindReaderMan.
Originally posted by: ShyGuy
go blue?
Post by: ShyGuy on May 08, 2007, 05:30:38 PM
Post by: UncleBob on May 09, 2007, 02:26:06 AM
Then we find out that Future Hiro has spent five years trying to change the past?
NYC gonna go boom...
Post by: Ceric on May 09, 2007, 03:22:27 AM
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Part of me thinks this season will end with the bomb going off and next season will be the heroes trying to change their fate.
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Wasn't the whole point of the episode "Six Months Ago" that Hiro couldn't change the past?
Then we find out that Future Hiro has spent five years trying to change the past?
NYC gonna go boom...
Forget just that one episode. Wasn't that the point of this whole season and Hiro going an his Epic quest?
Post by: Nile Boogie on May 09, 2007, 05:23:04 AM
Anyone else pick up on why Sylar's going to kill Ando?
Post by: Ceric on May 09, 2007, 05:27:46 AM
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Originally posted by: Nile Boogie
Peter won't go nuclear. What I think is he's going to cause a massive black out that will take NYC months to recover from. "THE DARK TOMORROW"
Anyone else pick up on why Sylar's going to kill Ando?
Because he's there. Ando has to die to make future Hiro. I figure that in the end it might be a hostage situation. Wouldn't you want Hiro's power if you were someone like Sylar?
Of course Peter won't go. The even won't happen at all thus proving the future can change.
Post by: Nile Boogie on May 09, 2007, 06:02:31 AM
Post by: Ceric on May 09, 2007, 07:45:12 AM
Post by: SixthAngel on May 10, 2007, 02:07:29 PM
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Originally posted by: Ceric
The ticking of their brains. Sylar can identify people with powers. Its been somewhat established.
I don't think he can. The ticking we see in his first kill is showing how he can see how things work and he still needs to cut open the head to figure it out. Everyone with powers he has killed has been on the list so he hasn't been finding anyone random on the way.
Post by: that Baby guy on May 10, 2007, 03:26:47 PM
Now then, on the surface, what opposes what I'm suggesting is what happened with Claire, when Sylar tried to kill her in Texas. However, with both Claire and Peter in the room at the same time he was there, there is a chance that he was confused for a short amount of time, and then realized his mistake right away when he looked at the extra cheerleader.
It's hard to say if he has trouble detecting who is the individual with powers when the person is not on the list, as he went after Claire because of the news of her saving a man in a fire. Perhaps he could tell people with abilities were around, but is not able to tell which person he can tell is special. I don't know, but it makes sense.
Post by: Shecky on May 10, 2007, 04:13:05 PM
Post by: mantidor on May 11, 2007, 07:14:21 PM
Post by: that Baby guy on May 11, 2007, 07:19:44 PM
Post by: mantidor on May 11, 2007, 07:44:45 PM
Time travel is another one that gets me, but I can ignore its inconsistencies more easily, so its not a big deal. The only way time travel works for me is OoT/MM style, the others just give me headaches (ocarina did have its mind boggling moments though, like the song of storms :S )
Post by: MaryJane on May 13, 2007, 11:46:27 AM
Oh and I love love love what's been going on with the series recently! I still don't like Jessica's part in all this since on the surface it appears all she is going to do is rescue her son whose part in the whole scheme would likely be negated anyway with the other situations going on. Just my little 2 cents there.
Post by: Caliban on May 14, 2007, 07:10:16 PM
I hope Sylar dies in the very near future, what an annoying punk.
Oh and we still don't know where that Dinosaur from the painting fits in with the Hiro storyline, how could they show something so cool that could happen and they never do show it.
Next week is the last episode for the second season, then we have to wait another year *sigh*.
Post by: ShyGuy on May 14, 2007, 07:17:17 PM
Post by: Nile Boogie on May 15, 2007, 01:54:30 AM
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Hiro was so freakin' cool in the recent episode. They didn't show what power does his dad have, which is a shame because I would really like to know how that training session went so quickly.
I hope Sylar dies in the very near future, what an annoying punk.
Oh and we still don't know where that Dinosaur from the painting fits in with the Hiro storyline, how could they show something so cool that could happen and they never do show it.
Next week is the last episode for the second season, then we have to wait another year *sigh*.
They already showed when "Hiro met the dinosaur" about mid way through the season. Not as cool as I wanted to be but it makes more sense than "time travel". Never thought I'd see the day when any show makes me stop watching "24" but after this season being sorta sub-par (still the best show ever just not that good of a season) and "Heros" betraying my expectations in such a good way, I have made the switch. I just hope they change one of the shows time slots so I don't have to choose which one of my sons I love the most.
Post by: UncleBob on May 15, 2007, 01:56:55 AM
Post by: Nile Boogie on May 15, 2007, 01:58:43 AM
"They didn't show what power does his dad have, which is a shame because I would really like to know how that training session went so quickly."
Hyperbolic Time Chamber FTW!!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 15, 2007, 06:12:53 AM
Post by: that Baby guy on May 15, 2007, 09:24:47 AM
I don't think Hiro's dad has a power, considering he told Hiro that Hiro himself was the first one in the family to "ascend." My guess is that Mr. Nakamura may have supplied the initial cash monies to the outfit, and that, paired with some of his sword fighting abilities, gave him a pass through the superpower-check on the list. Perhaps he even put the whole Superfriends group together in the first place.
I think Linderman was lying when he said that Nathan's father was one of them, though, as the online graphic novel showed some of Linderman and Old Man Petrelli's exploits in Vietnam, and the resulting aftermath. In it, Linderman had an ability, but Petrelli didn't. They did become partners, but still, no reference to Mr. Petrelli having any sort of power was made.
Post by: UncleBob on May 15, 2007, 12:43:19 PM
From http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=9485 - an interview with the writers of Heroes.
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Matt L. writes in with some praise, then takes you guys to task (gotta butter folks up before you give it to 'em, huh?). "Firstly, great episode this week. Anyway, I'll just get right to my question. In 'Godsend,' after Hiro swipes the fake sword, he ends up in a dinosaur exhibit. He sees a dinosaur statue, and whips out the "sword" and play fights with it. Is that, in fact, what Isaac painted? If so, that seems kind of like a cheat, but at the same time, you can't really have Hiro fighting dinosaurs in the past, what with the age old dilemma of changing history and all that. So, what's the deal?"
It seemed to look a lot like the painting, didn't it? But Cheat? Isaac drew Hiro with the sword facing a dinosaur. And in the next episode he's facing off against one in a museum.
Post by: that Baby guy on May 15, 2007, 12:59:26 PM
Post by: Caliban on May 15, 2007, 04:34:03 PM
After listening to the tale of the swordsman and the dragon, I thought that the dragon was the dino of which was symbolized as his dad from the sword training scene.
They have a comic being made aside from the tv show? Huh, I better check that out.
Post by: MaryJane on May 16, 2007, 12:57:05 PM
Post by: that Baby guy on May 16, 2007, 01:25:29 PM
It usually updates on Tuesday, and I think it has every day since the show has premiered.
Post by: Ceric on May 17, 2007, 12:19:03 PM
Post by: Shecky on May 17, 2007, 03:21:10 PM
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The comic is located at here.
It usually updates on Tuesday, and I think it has every day since the show has premiered.
lol, pie
Post by: Shecky on May 21, 2007, 03:26:20 PM
Can some one tell me why they wouldn't take that gun and put the whole magazine in Sylar's head?
Post by: Nile Boogie on May 21, 2007, 03:49:40 PM
Post by: that Baby guy on May 21, 2007, 03:58:50 PM
Anyways, roaches dragged Sylar away while everyone was watching the sky...
I wonder what roaches want with Sylar...
Post by: Shecky on May 21, 2007, 04:06:38 PM
"Anyways, roaches dragged Sylar away while everyone was watching the sky" ... I think it was like more an invisible man...
Edit: And I liked the episode... cause it had an ending, which is exactly what I was looking for. The cliffhanger was more a preview to the next chapter.
Post by: JonLeung on May 21, 2007, 04:12:44 PM
PUNCH. PUNCH. Hey, Matt. Gonna use your mind-reading to help out? You're just going to get shot? Fine, then. Oh, here comes Nikki/Jessica to slam a parking meter into Sylar. Oh, bye now, you have to take care of D.L. Oh, hi, here's Hiro, just for one stab that Sylar should've totally seen coming. Okay, bye, Hiro. Okay, Peter, do your thing. Use your multiple powers. No? You just want to punch? Okay. PUNCH. PUNCH. Hey, uh, oh, you've lost control of Ted's powers, which is really the whole focus of all this. Come on, Claire, shoot. Oh, you can't? Fine, then. Leave it to Nathan to save the day. Now shut up and fly away already.
Oh, NO ONE saw that Sylar's body is gone? Or if they did, they don't even seem the least bit concerned about it? WTF? And where's the evil Mrs. Petrelli? And is that supposed to be a cliffhanger? Oh, it's just the eclipse. At least it's not Galactus, but still...sheesh.
Wow, I sound really bitter. I guess I was hoping for more.
And I didn't mention this last week, but when Mr. Linderman was offering Nikki/Jessica the money, I was expecting him to say, all Howie Mandel-like, "D.L. or no D.L.?" It would be so dumb, but it almost seemed like it was being set up for that.
Post by: Caliban on May 21, 2007, 04:48:39 PM
Post by: JonLeung on May 21, 2007, 05:07:11 PM
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Originally posted by: Caliban
The only answer that truly matters will come from the question "who's face are we going to see behind the mask of that one lone samurai carrying that S flag", a.k.a. Kensei.
Watch, it'll probably end up being George Takei.
Post by: that Baby guy on May 21, 2007, 05:10:27 PM
I like that D.L or no D.L. joke. It wouldn't fit with the show, but that's hilarious. Anyways, I agree with Shecky. The show concluded. Volume One is over, and everything that Volume One was focused on was answered. Volume Two ideas, as well as ideas from future seasons beyond that were hinted at throughout the season, but we knew that this wasn't important at the time, so I think most people never worried about it. I think it was great that there was an ending. That, and the idea that cockroaches may have been watching the whole time[/spoilers] impresses and intrigues me.
Post by: Caliban on May 21, 2007, 05:16:30 PM
thatguy, I can see it right now..."ROACHMAN"!
Post by: Shecky on May 21, 2007, 05:31:49 PM
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I can see it right now..."ROACHMAN"!
Noooooo.... the UNDERMINER!
Post by: that Baby guy on May 21, 2007, 05:44:45 PM
Post by: ShyGuy on May 21, 2007, 09:09:44 PM
So, since did Claire know that Peter would have survived the gunshot? Or is it a oneat a time thing? Since he was using the nuke power, he couldn't turn on the heal power?
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on May 21, 2007, 09:50:54 PM
Post by: nitsu niflheim on May 22, 2007, 03:46:00 AM
I thought the finales for both Heroes and 24 were rather blah and anti-climatic.
Post by: Shecky on May 22, 2007, 04:56:08 AM
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What I am most intrigued by is the man who the girl could not locate without him seeing her, sounded creepy
Yeah, that little girl was terrified of that man so it's obviously Michael Jackson?
Poor girl.
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 22, 2007, 05:25:04 AM
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Yeah, that little girl was terrified of that man so it's obviously Michael Jackson?
Poor girl.
But Michael Jackson? only likes little boys
And I agree with Jon & Nitsu, the whole final fight was rather stupid if you ask me. Peter must only be able to access one power at a time like ShyGuy said otherwise none of it even makes sense. Even still though it wouldn't make sense, cause in the 5 years in the future episode, Peter exploded and healed, which means he would have to heal throughout his nuclear incineration or he wouldn't have enough of him left to heal. And if he could use more than one power at a time, why wouldn't he just fly away by himself?
Another thing, When Matt came up and shot 3 bullets, Sylar was quick enough to stop all three bullets before it got to him, but not fast enough to stop Hiro from running up to him and stabbing him with a sword? It just doesn't make sense, maybe if Hiro had stopped time briefly and stabbed him, but thats not what happened.
I also have to wonder if Chapter 2 is gonna cover the wide spread nuclear fallout that is about to cover the greater NY state area. Does it trigger more genetic mutations and therefore more Heroes? Or not exist at all?
Post by: UncleBob on May 22, 2007, 05:33:56 AM
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 22, 2007, 06:14:29 AM
And how come no one was wondering where Sylar was? Noah Bennett (what a name...) should have atleast been concerned with what happened to Sylar, even if he was worried about Claire's safety, same with Matt.
I give the season finale a 3.5/10 for being a weak finale to a good show. Thats why they had to give you a teaser for the beginning of the next chapter, to make up for all the dissapointment for the end of this chapter. I hope it doesn't happen again next season.
Post by: nitsu niflheim on May 22, 2007, 07:20:38 AM
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on May 22, 2007, 08:23:00 AM
Post by: ShyGuy on May 22, 2007, 08:44:25 AM
Post by: nitsu niflheim on May 22, 2007, 08:44:56 AM
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on May 22, 2007, 08:45:47 AM
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Sylar is not dead.
I think the roaches ate him
Post by: mantidor on May 22, 2007, 09:16:47 AM
Yes we could, even we had it in the future flashback (flashforward I guess??)
The whole series was building up to this moment and it sadly didn't deliver. If they wanted action the fight was lame and anticlimatic, if they wanted to go all emo the actors didn't deliver either. The goodbye of Clair and her dad was very well done, though it was ruined when they reunited again so soon and the fact that his memories of claire weren't completly wiped out... but I'm digressing, why did they drop the ball? or maybe is the guy playing Nathan, seriously he has the exact same expression for everything except when he smiles for his congress campaign photos. It should had been more poignant and it wasn't.
Besides, they were fighting at a building named kirby, people! being both kirby-like characters is sad they didn't go all out absorbing all kind of powers for a nice fight, the show has a lot of geek references but is missing Nintendo ones.
Post by: JonLeung on May 22, 2007, 01:01:24 PM
QuoteThe thing about Sylar and Peter is that they seemed to be collecting powers. Peter, not so much deliberately, but he did encounter enough people and used their powers when he needed. Sylar's whole point of killing people was to take their powers. Their slugfest with pathetic jump-ins could've been somewhat more extravagant. At least more mano-a-mano, and whoever had to jump in could've actually been more competent.
Originally posted by: mantidor
"this is a "realistic" take on superheros, and you couldn't have a beat em up epic battle if you wanted to remain faithful to the series. "
Yes we could, even we had it in the future flashback (flashforward I guess??)
...
Besides, they were fighting at a building named kirby, people! being both kirby-like characters is sad they didn't go all out absorbing all kind of powers for a nice fight, the show has a lot of geek references but is missing Nintendo ones.
Nikki had next to nothing to do with Sylar this entire time and she got to swing a parking meter at him. Sure, okay, she knew who the bad guy was but apparently somehow they thought she was better off hanging out with D.L. in the background. Then we have Hiro, who spent the entire time learning how to stop Sylar, and the next thing you know, he's in the past. Sure, the sword wound may be what really took down Sylar but Hiro was sure out of the picture in a snap.
I think Micah could've done more than just operate an elevator for the finale. WTF, his only purpose is to hack the computers so that Nathan would win an election? When Linderman has so much money and power (and I don't mean his healing ability), you'd think he wouldn't need to manipulate a family all their lives just to do that.
But not having read the graphic novels, I'm pretty sure I can say that the most useless person in this entire thing was that Wi-fi woman. I remember NBC made a big deal about it and had a sneak preview during Deal Or No Deal, which ended up being the entire first scene that she was in - and she was only in two! You'd think they could've written in some easier way for Ted to convince Matt to work with him. Or at least a way that doesn't waste a whole character.
Anyway, Nintendo references FTW. But no, they had a couple PS3s. Which doesn't make sense...if the series took place in October/November last year, could they have already had PS3s?
Post by: mantidor on May 22, 2007, 01:47:51 PM
I think you already know this, but she indeed did a whole lot of things in the comic and I think she will play more of a role now that she got in contact with Micah for next season, they will have to explain where the hell has she been all this time for the TV audience though.
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 22, 2007, 09:42:11 PM
As for how they handled Peter not being able to control his power, I still think its stupid, and definately should have been handled better.
Post by: Shecky on May 23, 2007, 01:47:05 AM
Post by: UncleBob on May 23, 2007, 01:58:28 AM
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Even still, Claire should have shot him. Its not like she didn't know she could remove the bullet later and he would suddenly just wake up.
What was to stop Peter from going boom after they get the bullet out?
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 23, 2007, 05:50:15 AM
Next time you go to pull the bullet out, drug him first so that he will be relaxed.
Post by: nitsu niflheim on May 23, 2007, 07:27:49 AM
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Originally posted by: nitsu niflheim
Sylar is not dead.
I think the roaches ate him
They didn't eat him in an earlier episode.
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on May 23, 2007, 10:43:41 AM
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Originally posted by: nitsu niflheimQuote
Originally posted by: GoldenPhoenixQuote
Originally posted by: nitsu niflheim
Sylar is not dead.
I think the roaches ate him
They didn't eat him in an earlier episode.
They changed their mind and were hungry this time.
Post by: Ceric on May 24, 2007, 06:04:08 AM
Also I called Hiros dad being the swordsman. (Which if you look through the eye slits there he is.)
Post by: Ceric on May 24, 2007, 08:14:25 AM
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... Oh, it's just the eclipse. At least it's not Galactus, but still...sheesh.
...
And I didn't mention this last week, but when Mr. Linderman was offering Nikki/Jessica the money, I was expecting him to say, all Howie Mandel-like, "D.L. or no D.L.?" It would be so dumb, but it almost seemed like it was being set up for that.
I thought it be a Dragon though Galactus would be great for something that pokes fun at the series.
That would have been funny.
Post by: MaryJane on May 24, 2007, 01:13:11 PM
As for the eclipse/Galactus, my own theory is closer to Galactus, in Mohinder's little speech at the end the last thing he said was "we are not alone". This to me would suggest aliens. It's made me think that perhaps this is an all family thing. If they gave the samurai (who I agree is Hiro's father, or at the very least was being played by the same actor) powers and then he through reproduction spread the powers, it would stay close at first but eventually his descendants would mix with other cultures. Also since Hiro's father said he was the first to rise, it may be that he sought out other cultures because his offspring didn't carry his ability.
Beyond all that I was wondering what everyone thoughts are with the whole origins thing? With the voting on a new character for season 3? I'm psyched, but I'm trying not to get my hopes up, because I can also see this ruining the series all together.
Post by: nitsu niflheim on May 25, 2007, 02:33:41 AM
Post by: matt oz on May 25, 2007, 05:07:32 PM
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on May 25, 2007, 05:20:10 PM
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I read in Entertainment Weekly today that next season, instead of going on hiatus, they'll be airing a mini-series called "Heroes: Origins" during the Spring. It'll be the back stories of an older generation of Heroes. Hopefully they do Mrs. Petrelli. I think her power is some kind of puppet mastery or something. The way she was touching Nathan in the finale was like she was holding puppet strings or something. I don't know. But the premise sounds really interesting.
Mrs. Petrelli has the ultimate power to be a, um, female dog!
Post by: nitsu niflheim on May 26, 2007, 03:44:01 AM
Post by: TrueNerd on May 29, 2007, 05:53:21 AM
Lost's finale, on the other hand... *whistles*
