Author Topic: More Revolution Tidbits (Read 33522 times)

PaLaDiN · « **Reply #50 on:** May 13, 2005, 05:37:12 PM »

Maybe it's because it was misleading.

Nephilim · « **Reply #51 on:** May 13, 2005, 05:44:43 PM »

Great news
9gig is heaps, I just hope in 4-5years when Revolution is going out, That people arnt turning there head due to size problems, which has happened this generation.
Then again even the biggest PC games atm are only 1.1-1.5gig, there was no excuse.

Famicom · « **Reply #52 on:** May 13, 2005, 06:17:34 PM »

The biggest PC games are somewhere in the neighborhood of 3-5gb actually. Far Cry and UT2004 are big blips on my drive.

RABicle · « **Reply #53 on:** May 13, 2005, 06:34:37 PM »

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Originally posted by: RickPowers
It is the last statement that truly interests me, however. "Self-loading media drive" sounds a lot like a slot-loading drive, similar to the Apple Mac Mini and Powerbook. How could they do that with the smaller GameCube discs? I guess we'll find out in just a few days.

Since the topic hasn't been properly addessed yet; as an owner of a slot loading Apple iMac, I can confirm that mini CDs not only go into the machine but also come out. I tried it out once when I was bored. So for those who were curious or fearful, it works.

rholder · « **Reply #54 on:** May 13, 2005, 06:42:10 PM »

Let me make a point about people 'not needing' DVD playback anymore...

I also never understood the fascination with PS2/Xbox DVD playback. I had a DVD player, didn't need it. However, I finally got an Xbox on top of my cube and that allowed me to put my DVD player in my bedroom and Xbox on my entertainment setup in my living room. May not be as universal or greatest quality, but it gave me Options. Its been said before, 'whoopdey do, who cares...Lots of consumers do. Look at it how you may, but DVD playback wll garner more attention than you may think.

**giddy with excitement...this will be one hell of a week**

nickmitch · « **Reply #55 on:** May 13, 2005, 06:59:45 PM »

I'm just glad that I have final exams to tie me over all E3.
I will soon find out which is more important to me: Nintendo and the Rev. or making retention.

Well enough with my personal problems I just wanted to say thatt six times the space is more than enough for next generation. I'm really eager to see how (good) games use the extra space. I imagine Namco will have some RPGs to ake advantage. And now a complete mario (or Zelda) anthology with ALL the games on one disk is slightly more likely.

Ian Sane · « **Reply #56 on:** May 13, 2005, 07:49:35 PM »

"Revolution will be backward compatible, playing both Nintendo GameCube 8cm disks along with its own 12cm optical disks in the same self-loading media drive."

If this DVD stuff is a misquote or something I'm going to stop being so cheery. I can live without DVD support but don't TELL me it has it and then "take it away". Right now I've got this feeling that Nintendo is changing and they're addressing all the complaints with the Cube. If the Rev doesn't play DVDs it's going to really ruin this feeling.

Come on Nintendo. You're doing perfect so far. Don't start f*cking up stuff now.

jasonditz · « **Reply #57 on:** May 13, 2005, 07:59:25 PM »

It seems like most of the "complaints with the Cube" are that its not a PS2.

I can't see how anyone who bought a Cube could possibly be disappointed with what they got.

bananaboy · « **Reply #58 on:** May 13, 2005, 08:36:13 PM »

It's true, most do just want it to be an Xbox or a PS2. me im happy with my cube, i love it to bits. yes it has flaws, but so do the ps2 and xbox.

Im glad to see Nintendo is actually taking notice of this and making an attempt to change. I just hope the changes on the site dont mean DVD9 is gone.

BlackNMild2k1 · « **Reply #59 on:** May 13, 2005, 08:43:32 PM »

I think that they are gonna go with a custom version of HD-DVD or Blu-ray so that they get higher capacity but still have standard DVD playback, but thats just a guess, anfd I have no idea what I'm talking about.

And why do they keep re-wording the same prases over and over again? That has to be about the 3rd or 4th time now, right?

Dryden · « **Reply #60 on:** May 14, 2005, 12:08:40 AM »

So, X-Box is going with Dual Layer DVD for easy in use / low cost...
Nintendy is going with "12 cm optical disks" to fight piracy (again)...
And Sony... well, Sony loves their Blu-Ray, but without a clear win in the Toshiba / Sony fight, that's a tough call to make. Considering that the PS3 was announced to be Blu-Ray last year, I don't really expect that report to hold water come E3.

Nintendo makes a lot of money making other companies pay for their techology (as opposed to DVD technology), but they're not making friends in third-party developers doing it. I hope they've got something amazing to offer developers, or the Revolution is never going to get to enough homes.

**crosses fingers for Stereoscopic 3-D Projection**

JB · « **Reply #61 on:** May 14, 2005, 02:25:28 AM »

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"Nintendo goes on to off-handedly mention quick start-up times, quiet and low-power operation, and of course, wireless internet included."

(And I SERIOUSLY doubt Ninty would ever consider going with a competitor's media...That's absurd...)

Actually Nintendo is already doing that by going with the DVD-format. Sony is one of the companies that started the DVD-format, just like with the Blue-ray format.

According to your logic, Nintendo would still be using cartridge based technology for the GameCube, because Sony has played an important role in the invention of nearly all of the important optical disc formats available at the time the GameCube was released.

Nile Boogie · « **Reply #62 on:** May 14, 2005, 03:28:09 AM »

I would say that nintendo will use a it's own Disc Format that is "also" capeable of playing standard DvD/9s. Just like DreamCast played their own format, GD-Rom and played standard CD's. I expect said dual-layered disc-drive to hold up to 16.5gb's and be based on the original HD-DvD format. Then they get the best of both worlds.

stevey · « **Reply #63 on:** May 14, 2005, 04:50:57 AM »

So it can play dvds and cube disk. he not saying that it using dvd for the formate for game it sill can be hddvds. "self-loading media drive" dosen't mean there a slot you put disk in it could be a pop out drive like xbox's.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #64 on:** May 14, 2005, 05:12:11 AM »

NoE claims the "Revolution Discs" are DVD9s. I tend to think they're left out on all the news again and trying to make sense of what the guys higher up on the chain say.

Personally I doubt that Nintendo would use standard media for games. There's no point in that except to make piracy trivially easy. I'd go for 13cm discs that are read from the outside in. Try ripping THAT.

kirby_killer_dedede · « **Reply #65 on:** May 14, 2005, 05:12:38 AM »

The length of a DVD case? That's almost too small to be sleek, imo...not sayign that the Xbox 360 looked good, because it didn't, but I think for a vertical system those are about the proper dimensions...smaller isn't always better.

I think what the replacement in the article is basically saying is that it will play DVD9s (movie playback), but for games 12cm optical disks will be used.

RickPowers · « **Reply #66 on:** May 14, 2005, 05:42:37 AM »

My guess is that Nintendo changed the language because they are not "standard" discs. It's also possible that DVD Movie playback won't be possible, so they want to remove all references to "DVD" in order to stop any additional confusion. It's a shame, really.

Renny · « **Reply #67 on:** May 14, 2005, 06:05:41 AM »

The only benefit I see in including DVD video playback is the message it sends to the public, or at least Ian; that they've listened and are prepared to change. But at $20 per system (have they lowered this at all in 2 years?) it's a costly message. If they're trying to create a graphicall/aurally powerful system at a competitive price, that $20 will either eat into their budget or encourage an increased launch price. It's possible that they could sell DVD playback as an accessory à la the $30 OEM remote for the Xbox, but that would just encourage a negative reaction towards old, stingy Nintendo.

Cue fan outrage: "LOL, we need liek 4 DS'es to play movies."

Cue PA comic: "Shut up, f*ckwits."

DVD video playback is irrelevant now but for a few negative Nellies* who'll hold a grudge to the end.

Arbok · « **Reply #68 on:** May 14, 2005, 06:12:39 AM »

The odd thing, is that I'm dissapointed that it sounds like now that the Revolution will not play DVD movies... despite the fact that I would never use the feature, and if it means a lower price I would much rather do without.

*shrugs* At this point I'm willing to wait and see.

Fro · « **Reply #69 on:** May 14, 2005, 07:13:15 AM »

Pretty sure they want people realizing it's not going to be just a dual-layer DVD format, although that's playable.

They're not going to announce to the New York Times that it plays DVDs. The tweak to the website opens the door for HD-DVD to be supported also or another format.

anubis6789 · « **Reply #70 on:** May 14, 2005, 07:19:25 AM »

If it doesn't play DVD videos I won't be too upset, I'm just happy that they are using a standard sized disc, even if it isn't really standard. I would rather Nintendo protect themselves from piracy then being able to watch DVDs on a console that will sit right next to a dedicated DVD player.

On another subject, I do hope that Nintendo will put 4 gcn controller ports on the system as well as have 2 GCN memory card slots for complete backwards compatibility. I also hope that I can play PSO and LAN games through the wifi setup.

Man, the wait for this E3 is killing me, more so then any other E3 before.

OptimusPrime · « **Reply #71 on:** May 14, 2005, 08:27:14 AM »

How to make a anti-priacy DVD9...well one you could switch the layers and indeed make the reading going from outsde to in. Probably the layer switching is enough to keep hackers busy awhile

Savior · « **Reply #72 on:** May 14, 2005, 12:03:36 PM »

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On another subject, I do hope that Nintendo will put 4 gcn controller ports on the system as well as have 2 GCN memory card slots for complete backwards compatibility. I also hope that I can play PSO and LAN games through the wifi setup.

Thats kind of my concern as well... If its so tiny AND Backwards compatible? can it all fit?

Grant10k · « **Reply #73 on:** May 14, 2005, 02:14:59 PM »

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Originally posted by: Savior
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On another subject, I do hope that Nintendo will put 4 gcn controller ports on the system as well as have 2 GCN memory card slots for complete backwards compatibility. I also hope that I can play PSO and LAN games through the wifi setup.

Thats kind of my concern as well... If its so tiny AND Backwards compatible? can it all fit?

well, they'd have to have at least one memory card slot, and worse case senario, it would only accept wavebird controllers, but GC controller ports arn't all that big, so i don't think there will be a problem.

PaLaDiN · « **Reply #74 on:** May 14, 2005, 03:21:06 PM »

I'm not going to say "I told you so" or anything, but Nintendo never did promise DVD movie playback.

I'm just happy they took off the misleading quote before people took it for granted and started a long whiny bitchfest once it was revealed to be a misquote.

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Author Topic: More Revolution Tidbits (Read 33522 times)