Hey! Pikmin is not coming alone.
http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/news/44560/nintendo-announces-new-2ds-xl
Nintendo has introduced a new form factor for the 3DS family that keeps the clam, but loses the 3D.
The New Nintendo 2DS XL (2DS LL in Japan) will launch on July 28 in North America for US$149.99/C$199.99, and on July 13 in Japan for ¥14980. Both territories will have two launch games: Hey! Pikmin and Miitopia (North America)/Ever Oasis (Japan).
The new model will support all New 3DS functions, aside from the enhancements to 3D viewing as it will not be supported.
Lower the price of New 3DS XL then? It launched over two years ago.
I don't think this looks cheap. Is this really necessary in 2017? Who is this for? This is like the Gameboy Micro of the 3DS line.
I feel like the NES Classic Edition would have sold more and been more profitable for Nintendo. Not that those things are inherently related. Assuming there are only so many production lines available, I don't know how another thing that plays 3DS games even remotely makes sense.
I feel like the NES Classic Edition would have sold more and been more profitable for Nintendo. Not that those things are inherently related. Assuming there are only so many production lines available, I don't know how another thing that plays 3DS games even remotely makes sense.Hey. HEY. You are NOT allowed to bring up that **** here. The grass hasn't even grown on the soil of the NES Classic's grave yet. DON'T SULLY IT'S BRIEF AND BRILLIANT EXISTENCE FOR THE REST OF US PURE, LOVING NINTENDO FANS THAT NEVER GOT A CHANCE TO PURCHASE ONE AND NOW FEEL THE PANG OF IT'S ABSENCE AS AN EVERLASTING STAIN UPON OUR LOVE OF THE COMPANY THAT FORGOT HOW TO PROPERLY MANAGE BUSINESS ANY FURTHER.
I think that this is for people who can't use the 3D functions physically or those that want to upgrade their lone 2DS or for younger kinds so that the parents can purchase one of these and then the kid who had the 2/3DS can pass that down to the next in line.All both of them.
Why would Nintendo lower the price on something that they had no trouble selling at $199 this past year? The point, presumably, it to put out something for people who can't use (or don't care about) 3D and/or want something a little more affordable, but don't want to go all the way down to the 2DS.Because Nintendo already launched its not-a-successor-but-totally-a-successor. As much as it wants to claim 3DS and Switch are meant to coexist, it knows they can't. Nintendo seems genuinely surprised Switch is selling so well, and the last time it had two products vying for sales in a similar space, it kicked GBA to the curb. Rightfully so, that was the better move. And 3DS was aged technology the day it launched, and even Nintendo has had to make compromises making games on it.
Why would Nintendo lower the price on something that they had no trouble selling at $199 this past year? The point, presumably, it to put out something for people who can't use (or don't care about) 3D and/or want something a little more affordable, but don't want to go all the way down to the 2DS.Because Nintendo already launched its not-a-successor-but-totally-a-successor. As much as it wants to claim 3DS and Switch are meant to coexist, it knows they can't. Nintendo seems genuinely surprised Switch is selling so well, and the last time it had two products vying for sales in a similar space, it kicked GBA to the curb. Rightfully so, that was the better move. And 3DS was aged technology the day it launched, and even Nintendo has had to make compromises making games on it.
I don't really buy the middle-of-the-line reasoning. When did Nintendo ever need one? And does it even need one for a sub-$200 product?
Neither are the upgrade crowd, and if Nintendo really wants to target those last OG 3DS stragglers, a price drop functionally does the same thing without spending time, money, and effort on research and development, contracts on parts and labor, marketing, shipping etc. New 2DS XL doesn't even benefit from the same low price the OG 2DS had when it launched.
I rather like the design, and if the subset of a subset of a subset is interested, more power to them. I'm not going to buy this; I just find its existence baffling especially in 2017.
So they're calling it "XL", despite not having a regular New 2DS?Maybe Nintendo hasn't announced it yet. I mean, this is the same company that just released a new 2DS model in 2017 nearly two months after launching hardware meant to replace it.
Nintendo is not going to kick the 3DS to the curb when they just moved over 30 million units of first-party 3DS software alone over the past fiscal year (nor should they).Nintendo didn't kill off GBA immediately. It phased out the handheld over the course of a year or so. And Nintendo is doing the same with 3DS because it saw the writing on the wall years ago. It can no longer support two platforms simultaneously especially with handheld games demanding similar development resources as console games. Over half of that 30 million was Pokémon alone and the rumored Stars is apparently a Switch title. Nintendo's first party output on 3DS is demonstrably weaker this year, highlighted by a Fire Emblem remake, Not-Pikmin, and Miitopia. Nintendo absolutely is neglecting the 3DS market because it has to.
The used game market is proof that $50 can matter to a lot of people. The New 2DS XL isn't going to light the sales charts on fire, but, like I said, I'm sure there are plenty of people who don't want to pay $199 for a New 3DS XL, but also don't want to go all the way down to the 2DS with its small screens, slate design, and missing features. When there's such a wide gap between your two main offerings and there's still a market for the high-end one at its current price, yes, I do think it makes sense to release something in the middle.Well, that's where we disagree. Without software anywhere near the level of a brand new Pokémon, I'm not sure the market for an aged $199.99 handheld is as rosy as you think it is.
Research and development on what? It's not using new technology, and I seriously doubt Nintendo spent a lot of time and effort coming up with a slight variation of the same basic hardware design they've been using for years. Many of the parts it's using are likely the same, some are probably cheaper to produce or acquire at this point, and parts, labor, and shipping costs all still apply to manufacturing the New 3DS XL and 2DS. They were fairly hard to come by last winter, so it's not as if Nintendo has millions of existing units lining store shelves or sitting in the warehouses of their retailer partners. Ultimately, this is a Nintendo hardware refresh. I don't buy the argument that they're sacrificing a lot margin or spent a lot of extra time and money to bring this product to the market.Any research and development cost in yen or labor is more than nothing it would have spent on not developing this thing at all. New 2DS XL may very well use many of the same components as New 3DS XL, and if that's the case, that's even less reason to launch a new model instead of dropping the price of the current one.
Lower the price of New 3DS XL then? It launched over two years ago.
I don't think this looks cheap. Is this really necessary in 2017? Who is this for? This is like the Gameboy Micro of the 3DS line.
I feel like the NES Classic Edition would have sold more and been more profitable for Nintendo. Not that those things are inherently related. Assuming there are only so many production lines available, I don't know how another thing that plays 3DS games even remotely makes sense.
I would argue Nintendo will get more money from people buying this and the copious amounts of 3DS software available than a one-time purchase of the NES Classic.I would argue there are more people left who want an NES Classic Edition than people who don't already own a 3DS and would specifically purchase New 2DS XL and copious amounts of new software.
I would argue Nintendo will get more money from people buying this and the copious amounts of 3DS software available than a one-time purchase of the NES Classic.I would argue there are more people left who want an NES Classic Edition than people who don't already own a 3DS and would specifically purchase New 2DS XL and copious amounts of new software.
I would argue Nintendo will get more money from people buying this and the copious amounts of 3DS software available than a one-time purchase of the NES Classic.I would argue there are more people left who want an NES Classic Edition than people who don't already own a 3DS and would specifically purchase New 2DS XL and copious amounts of new software.
Any inferences to be drawn on whether this could mean Stars or a Gen 4 remake? I need another 3DS for evolving Pokémon and transferring items. This may work nice, especially if I can bundle it with a game or two.
I would argue Nintendo will get more money from people buying this and the copious amounts of 3DS software available than a one-time purchase of the NES Classic.I would argue there are more people left who want an NES Classic Edition than people who don't already own a 3DS and would specifically purchase New 2DS XL and copious amounts of new software.
This. A week ago people found it inconceivable that Nintendo could produce NES Minis, SNES Minis and Switches at the same time. But now it's totally fine that Nintendo is producing SNES Minis, Switches and yet another 3DS variant all at the same time.
I'm pretty sure if they were going to do that they'd have announced it along side this. Plus, I do see their reasoning-- they want to highlight the fact it has extra-large screens as its selling point over the original 2DS, but still had to throw "New" in there to make sure folks are aware know it contains the New 3DS upgrades as well.So they're calling it "XL", despite not having a regular New 2DS?Maybe Nintendo hasn't announced it yet. I mean, this is the same company that just released a new 2DS model in 2017 nearly two months after launching hardware meant to replace it.
Or just accept that the fact that we live in a world that somehow struggles with the concept of small, medium, and large. Starbucks, for example, offers Short (English), Tall (English), Grande (Spanish), Venti Hot (Italian and English), Venti Cold (Italian and English), and Trenta (technically wrong Italian because "trenta" means "thirty" and the cup is 31 oz).
This. A week ago people found it inconceivable that Nintendo could produce NES Minis, SNES Minis and Switches at the same time. But now it's totally fine that Nintendo is producing SNES Minis, Switches and yet another 3DS variant all at the same time.
I almost feel like Nintendo are parodying themselves at this point.
I don't see why the regular NEW 3DS couldn't have filled in the $150 price point.
Any inferences to be drawn on whether this could mean Stars or a Gen 4 remake? I need another 3DS for evolving Pokémon and transferring items. This may work nice, especially if I can bundle it with a game or two.
The Gen 4 remakes of Diamond Dust and Pearl Powder *will* happen for one simple reason: money.
Now will they be released for 3DS? Switch? Something else? Good questions these. My conjecture would be 3DS in October/November 2017 to coincide with Game Freak's near-annual release schedule. Plus considering how long video games must be in development these days I am willing to bet Game Freak began developing Diamond Dust and Pearl Powder the day after ORAS were released (Nov 22, 2014).