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Re: Nintendo Explains Why Smaller New 3DS Isn't Coming to NA
« Reply #25 on: February 17, 2015, 11:49:43 PM »
I hope they are making their research accurate enough. I'M NOT BUYING.

I've been waiting for years to get a 3DS, I wanted all this years the smaller model, with better 3D and better battery life, and now with a decent library. I'm all about portability, and I travel a lot due to my work.

I have money to spend in lots of games, I would have bought 10 brand new games initially.

But I won't....good luck Nintendo


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You're only hurting yourself. Good games are good games and they work just as well on the old 3DS as the new. I haven't played the NEW 3DS yet but I've had plenty of fun and enjoyment from my launch day 3DS up to now.


I forgot to say that I like most of Nintendo novelties, including the wii-remote. I don't consider myself a conservative gamer, am always willing to try something new...so I love the no-3D-glasses idea, but I also make my research before buying. At launch, too many ppl complained about the 3D effect losing it's strength at very minor shake. If I buy a 3DS I would play mostly with 3D on....so there you go, I want a portable clam-shell no-3D-glasses handheld that play amazing games and who also has a decent processing/loading speeds. The New 3DS XL doesn't do the portable with me, also I heard comments from "perfectionists" that the pixels are more noticeable on the XL, which makes sense.

Did I say 10 games?, I just counted my WiiU games. I have 15 full-priced hard-copies!!, 5 digital retail, 15 VC, 6 indies....sorry Nintendo, it seems you don't want my money!....maybe one of my travels will take me to Japan....maybe region lock will be gone before the small New 3DS comes, who knows....only then I will consider to buy.....oh and I also find cool the plates!

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Re: Nintendo Explains Why Smaller New 3DS Isn't Coming to NA
« Reply #26 on: February 18, 2015, 12:00:23 AM »
I have 3DS XL and it fits my pocket just fine.  It's kinda like smartphone, but more bulky. Sure it might get uncomfortable to walk with it all the time but i say my wallet i a bigger nuisance than that.

I myself not really interested in buying n3DS (yet), but i would have preferred smaller version as well.

I say wait a bit more (you've already many years late, so no hurry) to see if small n3DS will be coming in NA and if not -- well, i guess live on with your life.

Either way you shouldn't waste more nerve energy on it than it's worth.
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Re: Nintendo Explains Why Smaller New 3DS Isn't Coming to NA
« Reply #27 on: February 18, 2015, 02:03:56 AM »
I forgot to say that I like most of Nintendo novelties, including the wii-remote. I don't consider myself a conservative gamer, am always willing to try something new...so I love the no-3D-glasses idea, but I also make my research before buying. At launch, too many ppl complained about the 3D effect losing it's strength at very minor shake. If I buy a 3DS I would play mostly with 3D on....so there you go, I want a portable clam-shell no-3D-glasses handheld that play amazing games and who also has a decent processing/loading speeds. The New 3DS XL doesn't do the portable with me, also I heard comments from "perfectionists" that the pixels are more noticeable on the XL, which makes sense.

I've played every game that I could in 3D. Obviously, older DS titles and VC games can't but if it is a 3DS game, I play it in 3D even when the effect is negligible like NSMB 2. You say you've researched the device but have you actually played one for awhile? It took a little bit for me to adjust and learn how to look at the screen for the 3D effect. The slider helps because light can affect your vision and the distance you look at it. I've played it on planes and trains and it doesn't lose its strength from a minor shake. People complain about everything. These forums can be proof of that sometimes.

The other day, I was thinking of buying a Dyson vacuum cleaner so I looked up what the reviews were on them to find the best model. It doesn't matter which one I choose. There were people who swore up and down it was the best vacuum ever and gave it 5 stars and others who gave detailed problems of all the things wrong with it and why it was the worst thing they bought in 1 star reviews. This happened with every single model. In the end, I was no better off then before I looked up reviews. However, some friends of mine had bought one so I asked to borrow and test it out at my place. The thing worked great. I took a lint roller to the carpet afterwards and it was picking up nothing compared to when I checked the carpet before vacuuming. It worked great on tile as well. So I picked up that model for myself. I don't know what the story is with the 1-star review people. I get that some people might end up with a defect or bad experience but it just seems like some people were trying to find things to complain about or perhaps just too dumb to even know how to use.

For me, I want the NEW 3DS XL as I'd like to have the bigger screens having never gotten a DS XL or 3DS XL and the faster load times will be nice also. That said, I'm still not in a hurry to buy one. I stopped at a couple stores on the weekend as I was willing to perhaps pick one up if they had them in stock but they were out. However, there was a display model of one set-up so I took the chance to play with it a little and see what it was like. I was curious about what the picture would be like since the reviewer on this site also mentioned pixels being noticeable. It beats me what that's supposed to mean as the video quality didn't appear blocky or stand out as "pixely" to me. I had a hard time telling if the 3D effect was on at first from the opening cinematic I watched but adjusting it a little and waiting for an area to move and play it let me see it the 3D effect. It took some getting used to I think because I was used to a smaller screen so it was weird scanning a bigger area at first. I was going to test the 3D movement effect but forgot about it since I was more focused on the video quality and just making sure the 3D effect was working. I guess maybe I was hoping for more but walking away from the demo unit, I wasn't that wowed by it since the 3D effect still feels the same to me as my normal 3DS unit. But again, I've only had a taste of the NEW 3DS so maybe that will change when I get it. Rather than just read comments about it, I really think you should see if you can't borrow or try out the two devices, a regular 3DS and a NEW 3DS, and see what you think of them in action. You might come to see that the negatives are being blown out of proportion about it.

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Did I say 10 games?, I just counted my WiiU games. I have 15 full-priced hard-copies!!, 5 digital retail, 15 VC, 6 indies....sorry Nintendo, it seems you don't want my money!....maybe one of my travels will take me to Japan....maybe region lock will be gone before the small New 3DS comes, who knows....only then I will consider to buy.....oh and I also find cool the plates!

Yeah and I've got 12 retail Wii U games and 1 VC game. I've also got 26 retail 3DS games, 3 3DS eShop games and 20 3DS Virtual Console games. So, if I tell Nintendo not to bother to release a small NEW 3DS, does that mean my opinion means more since I've given more sales? The amount of software one buys or owns generally doesn't impress anyone but young kids who don't have the income to spend on games. There's plenty of people who own more software than me. That's fine. I'm not in a competition. I'm just buying games I want to play and enjoying those titles.

That's why I say that if there are 10 games you want to buy and play or are interested in, you're just hurting yourself because those are 10 titles you are keeping yourself from playing when they will work well on any of the 3DS hardware. I still enjoy SNES titles despite the fact they are 16-bit and the SNES tech is outdated. There are GameCube games I still like to play despite the fact they were in Standard Definition. I've liked a lot of 3DS games even if the video quality isn't the same as a Vita or iPhone 6. I can enjoy what I've got and not be grumpy over what something is not. If a reviewer wants to complain that the system is lacking this or that or doesn't compare well because of this or that, that's their opinion and their right but you may just find that their personal opinion doesn't match yours.
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Re: Nintendo Explains Why Smaller New 3DS Isn't Coming to NA
« Reply #28 on: February 18, 2015, 02:25:39 AM »
Simple, it's basically a 3DS with a built in circle pad pro. Ya call it a "3DS Pro". How friggin hard is that Nintendo?
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Re: Nintendo Explains Why Smaller New 3DS Isn't Coming to NA
« Reply #29 on: February 18, 2015, 05:28:19 AM »
From the same company that named a console "Wii U" and made it look strikingly similar to the console's predecessor, pretty damn hard apparently...

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Re: Nintendo Explains Why Smaller New 3DS Isn't Coming to NA
« Reply #30 on: February 18, 2015, 10:46:39 AM »
If the idea is to keep it less complicated for the consumer, why keep "XL" in the name if you're not going to also have an non-XL version, like that's not going to confuse people? If you look at the quote, he's actually talking about the FACE PLATES not coming here, not necessarily the smaller system itself. So, I'm still confident it WILL be here by year's end-- they just won't be selling the alternate face plates for it.

When Nintendo said before that 3DS's maturation isn't as far along in all markets, they made it sound like it wouldn't be ready here for a whole other year... of course, they couldn't get away with waiting that long, so the way I see it, they had to appease the hardcore fans by giving the XL an early release in limited numbers (try looking for them, in stores they're already sold out everywhere), and without an AC adapter because the hardcore fans would already have them. The full release will happen later and in the year along with the standard model which WILL include the AC adapter. Mark my words.

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Re: Nintendo Explains Why Smaller New 3DS Isn't Coming to NA
« Reply #31 on: February 18, 2015, 10:51:55 AM »
To avoid confusion, when they do release the standard New 3DS here it's going to be called the New 3DS XL Micro.
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Re: Nintendo Explains Why Smaller New 3DS Isn't Coming to NA
« Reply #32 on: February 18, 2015, 01:31:58 PM »
Nah, Nintendo is just going to call it 3DS.

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« Reply #33 on: February 18, 2015, 01:39:54 PM »
Does it really matter, though, their handheld naming has never made any kind of sense to begin with so that is clearly not the problem.
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Re: Nintendo Explains Why Smaller New 3DS Isn't Coming to NA
« Reply #34 on: February 18, 2015, 03:36:30 PM »
I dunno, I thought the DS name was pretty straightforward. Then Nintendo decided to get cute and call the next one 3DS, then got really meta with the 2DS, and now straight-up cribbing from Apple (and not for the first time) with New 3DS.

EDIT: Okay, new theory: Satoru Iwata doesn't understand the concept of sarcasm, and people were suggesting these names as jokes and were too afraid to correct him.
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Re: Nintendo Explains Why Smaller New 3DS Isn't Coming to NA
« Reply #35 on: February 18, 2015, 04:19:02 PM »
You guys really need to update the headline, because he didn't directly say the smaller model wasn't coming, just that the customizable face plates weren't. The part about the core audience really wouldn't make sense about the smaller system itself since the core audience is statisticly more drawn to the XL anyway.

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Re: Nintendo Explains Why Smaller New 3DS Isn't Coming to NA
« Reply #36 on: February 18, 2015, 05:57:31 PM »
This explanation doesn't really make sense. There's probably a piece missing here that they don't want to talk about.

I still think the normal new 3DS will be released at some point, I'm just not sure when.


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Re: Nintendo Explains Why Smaller New 3DS Isn't Coming to NA
« Reply #37 on: February 18, 2015, 09:07:35 PM »
To avoid confusion, when they do release the standard New 3DS here it's going to be called the New 3DS XL Micro.
No, no, no... that's too confusing. They'll have to go with "New 3DS XL Pocket Lite SP".

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Re: Nintendo Explains Why Smaller New 3DS Isn't Coming to NA
« Reply #38 on: February 18, 2015, 10:54:42 PM »
"New 3DS" is a bad, bad name.  That said, Nintendo couldn't win in naming this thing.  No matter what, it had to have "3DS" in it, because it's an upgrade, not a whole new system.

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Re: Nintendo Explains Why Smaller New 3DS Isn't Coming to NA
« Reply #39 on: February 19, 2015, 12:20:07 AM »
What if there were face plates and cool buttons on the xl. 


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Re: Nintendo Explains Why Smaller New 3DS Isn't Coming to NA
« Reply #40 on: February 19, 2015, 03:03:33 AM »
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Re: Nintendo Explains Why Smaller New 3DS Isn't Coming to NA
« Reply #41 on: February 19, 2015, 03:11:54 AM »
Hello! I'm still waiting for people to figure it out....
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Re: Nintendo Explains Why Smaller New 3DS Isn't Coming to NA
« Reply #42 on: February 19, 2015, 04:34:03 AM »
I for one am very disappointed. The black version of the standard New 3DS looks downright sexy. I preferred the multicolored SNES-style buttons and the sharper corners.

Not to mention, http://www.nintendo.co.jp/3ds/kisekae/index.html#/lineup/055

I was so looking forward to upgrading my standard 3DS to this model and grabbing some face plates for it... and there's absolutely no chance of getting any of the cooler models or limited versions without shelling out to the online scalpers.
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Re: Nintendo Explains Why Smaller New 3DS Isn't Coming to NA
« Reply #43 on: February 19, 2015, 04:56:30 PM »
About the names, why does Nintendo name all the different models something distinct anyway?  Consoles don't really do that.  The second versions of the NES and SNES don't have a different name.  I can think of three significant variants of the PS3 but all three are just the PS3.  We end up coming up with our own nicknames like Slim to differentiate it but Sony doesn't advertise as game as being for the "PlayStation 3 and PlayStation 3 Slim".

But with handhelds it's all different.  Why does the Game Boy Pocket need its own name?  It's a Game Boy and it plays the same games as a "normal" Game Boy.  The GBA SP is a GBA.  The DSi and New 3DS have some level of exclusive software that you can't play on the old version so a rename is needed to differentiate (even if "New 3DS" is a stupid name).  But the 3DS XL and 2DS?  Those are 3DS's.  The form factor may be different but it's all the same system that plays the same games.  Consoles will have multiple SKUs but they don't name then as different products.  The Xbox 360 launched with the Core SKU but everything was still called the Xbox 360.  It was one product, two SKUs.  The 3DS has been promoted in a way that it comes across as three products for the same thing.

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Re: Nintendo Explains Why Smaller New 3DS Isn't Coming to NA
« Reply #44 on: February 19, 2015, 06:07:55 PM »
Renaming happens with consoles. Microsoft renamed Xbox 360 twice. The first revision was called "Xbox 360 S" and the second revision was called "Xbox 360 E." Nintendo named the Wii revision "Wii Mini" (yet it didn't rename Wii when it stripped Gamecube backwards compatibility). It does force consumers to inquire what the difference is (e.g. no accessing the Internet, notably locking out Wii Ware and Virtual Console). Similarly, Sony renamed the original Playstation with the first major overhaul: PSone. It had numerous revisions, but the PSone was the first that completely changed the size and shape.

I think issuing different names are especially necessary with handhelds for different sizes or when features are added or removed. Sony rebranded PSP with the third and most radical redesign: PSP Go which made sense as it was entirely digital (no UMD). It would be nice if Nintendo in particular took better care when naming these revisions. I think it also depends on what the changes are. Gameboy Pocket was essentially a relaunch of the original Gameboy line and the changes were very substantial at the time. Gameboy Advance SP introduced similarly substantial changes though Nintendo didn't change the name when it released the backlit model, it just made a big deal about it on the packaging.

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Re: Nintendo Explains Why Smaller New 3DS Isn't Coming to NA
« Reply #45 on: February 19, 2015, 10:45:30 PM »
To make matters worse, the "new" is often in all lowercase. "Introducing the new 3DS XL" makes it unclear what is new; almost sounds like the XL part is what's new.

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Re: Nintendo Explains Why Smaller New 3DS Isn't Coming to NA
« Reply #46 on: February 22, 2015, 06:23:43 PM »
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Re: Nintendo Explains Why Smaller New 3DS Isn't Coming to NA
« Reply #47 on: February 24, 2015, 10:25:08 PM »
It seems like Nintendo is really the only one who sells multiple variants of a console concurrently.  Sony stopped making the old PS2 when they introduced the "slim line" model, so there's no reason to call the new one anything different.
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Re: Nintendo Explains Why Smaller New 3DS Isn't Coming to NA
« Reply #48 on: February 25, 2015, 06:57:32 PM »
It seems like Nintendo is really the only one who sells multiple variants of a console concurrently.  Sony stopped making the old PS2 when they introduced the "slim line" model, so there's no reason to call the new one anything different.
The thing is, the slim PS2 didn't offer new functionality in the way that the New 3DS does, and the DSi did. When Nintendo released the remodeled NES and SNES, they also didn't change the name since nothing new was added. I think it's a good idea to add something to the name to signify that there is new functionality and some new games that will only work on the new model.


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« Reply #49 on: February 26, 2015, 01:17:03 AM »
Not like Sega who actually removed functionality with each release and still had the nerve to rename each revision. Someone remind me why we were gullible and supported those clowns again?
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