Topic: Official Sales Thread

[Mop it up]

The Wii just reached 30 million in the US, which is about one for every ten people. The fact that it's still maintaining sales despite the decreasing number of people to sell systems to is pretty amazing.

[Shaymin]

Also, the difference between Wii sales for July '09 and July '10 is that there was a price drop in the year between...

[Peachylala]

If this trend continues then the Wii is going to have another killer holiday season, which pretty much guarantees that the Wii HD isn't coming out until late 2012 at the earliest.

I'm so glad I'm not the only one thinking that 2011 is going to make a killing for Nintendo.

[Chozo Ghost]

I'm ready for a new Nintendo system, and seeing as how the Wii is selling in third place and just barely beating the PS3 then Nintendo needs to start being ready for a new system as well. Look, I'm a Nintendo fan and have been since I was a kid, but that doesn't change the fact that Wii sales are on the decline. As soon as the PS3 move and that Natal thing comes out the situation is going to be even worse. You see how the Wii is barely outselling the PS3 right now? Well, keep that in mind and then imagine PS3 Move on top of that. Don't look good now, does it?

So Nintendo needs to start getting something ready that will be at least on par with the other systems so that they can get the same multiplatform releases of the same quality that the other systems get. Right now, the Wii either doesn't get any of those games, or it just gets some crappy watered down port. Clearly better hardware is needed, and the Wii has done very well, but I think its time is quickly running out.

[KDR_11k]

PS Move isn't going to influence the Wii sales, it's aimed squarely at core gamers and those already have a PS3 (or a 360). Kinect will flop either way.

[TJ Spyke]

I'm ready for a new Nintendo system, and seeing as how the Wii is selling in third place and just barely beating the PS3 then Nintendo needs to start being ready for a new system as well.

What are you talking about? You sound like those people who complain "the Wii is doomed" every time the Wii isn't the #1 console of the month. The Xbox 360 got a boost due to the slim revision, that's it. You took what happened in ONE month and assumed that it how the situation will be from now on.

[Luigi Dude]

I'm ready for a new Nintendo system, and seeing as how the Wii is selling in third place and just barely beating the PS3 then Nintendo needs to start being ready for a new system as well. Look, I'm a Nintendo fan and have been since I was a kid, but that doesn't change the fact that Wii sales are on the decline.

What part of Wii sales are actually slightly higher then this time last year don't you understand?

So Nintendo needs to start getting something ready that will be at least on par with the other systems so that they can get the same multiplatform releases of the same quality that the other systems get. Right now, the Wii either doesn't get any of those games, or it just gets some crappy watered down port. Clearly better hardware is needed, and the Wii has done very well, but I think its time is quickly running out.

This logic that you and many of the other "Wii HD in 2011 crowd" makes absolutely no sense.  At this point in the game releasing a new system on par with the 360/PS3 isn't going to do sh!t.  The audience that wanted the types of games those systems have like FPS and Sports games already bought those systems and would have no reason to buy a Wii HD just to get ports of games that will still arrive on the 360/PS3 anyway.

Not to mention the fact that anyone who hasn't bought a 360/PS3 yet but is interested in buying one for the types of games on those systems still wouldn't buy a Wii HD even if it started getting the same types of multiplatform games.  The reason is because the 360/PS3 would still have a much larger library of these types of games with many of them at much cheaper prices for anyone new to the system to buy.  Nobody would buy a Wii HD to play future games like GTA5, Modern Warfare 3, Resident Evil 6, Street Fighter Super Ultimate 4 Turbo Revival Ninth Strike, when you can get these same games on the 360/PS3 as well as their predecessors which will only cost around $20-30.

The only thing that would make a Wii HD sell is Nintendo's own first party software which is still selling amazingly well on the Wii.  People have been buying the Wii since launch for Nintendo own games and that's what's keeping the Wii alive and will continue too.  Nintendo's not at the mercy of third parties like Microsoft and Sony and as a result, as long as their own games are still selling, they have no need to release a new system so early.  And with upcoming titles like Wii Party, Donkey Kong Country Returns, Skyward Sword and Mario Sports Mix which are all guaranteed to be huge multi-million sellers, Nintendo is in no hurry to abandon the system at anytime next year.

[Mop it up]

And with upcoming titles like Wii Party, Donkey Kong Country Returns, Skyward Sword and Mario Sports Mix which are all guaranteed to be huge multi-million sellers, Nintendo is in no hurry to abandon the system at anytime next year.

So... is there no hope of Kirby's Epic Yarn selling a million copies?

Look, I'm a Nintendo fan and have been since I was a kid, but that doesn't change the fact that Wii sales are on the decline.

How would you being a fan change the fact that Wii sales are on the decline?

[Luigi Dude]

So... is there no hope of Kirby's Epic Yarn selling a million copies?

Oh I'm sure Kirby Epic Yarn will sell over a million copies like most Kirby games usually do, but no where near the same level as the other games which should all cross the 5 million mark easily.  Hell, I can easily see Wii Party breaking the 10 million mark since it'll probably appeal to the audience that made Wii Sports Resort huge last year.  Plus if Donkey Kong Country Returns is advertised right to remind people of the original Country game and to appeal the recent NSMBW audience it could also be a 10 million plus seller as well.

So Kirby will more then likely do really good, but not on the same level as the others.

[SalesBot]

Chart Track - Week 31, 2010

UK: Week 31, 2010 - Individual Formats (Units)
01 (02) WII Dance On Broadway (Ubisoft)
02 (01) PC Starcraft Ii: Wings Of Liberty (Activision Blizzard)
03 (03) WII Just Dance (Ubisoft)
04 (04) NDS Dragon Quest Ix: Sentinels Starry Skies (Nintendo)
05 (05) WII Super Mario Galaxy 2 (Nintendo)
06 (12) PS3 Call Of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 (Activision Blizzard)
07 (06) NDS Toy Story 3 (Disney Interactive Studios)
08 (11) WII Wii Sports Resort (Nintendo)
09 (08) PS3 Red Dead Redemption (Take 2)
10 (07) 360 Red Dead Redemption (Take 2)
11 (15) 360 Call Of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 (Activision Blizzard)
12 (13) WII Wii Fit Plus (Nintendo)
13 (18) 360 Sniper: Ghost Warrior (City Interactive)
14 (20) NDS New Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo)
15 (09) WII Toy Story 3 (Disney Interactive Studios)
16 (10) PS3 Toy Story 3 (Disney Interactive Studios)
17 (17) 360 Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Conviction (Ubisoft)
18 (22) 360 Battlefield: Bad Company 2 (Electronic Arts)
19 (19) 360 Mass Effect 2 (Electronic Arts)
20 (35) 360 Alan Wake (Microsoft)
21 (16) 360 Toy Story 3 (Disney Interactive Studios)
22 (27) NDS Lego Harry Potter: Years 1-4 (Warner Bros. Interactive)
23 (14) 360 Crackdown 2 (Microsoft)
24 (__) NDS Art Academy (Nintendo)
25 (23) WII Lego Harry Potter: Years 1-4 (Warner Bros. Interactive)
26 (21) 360 Bioshock 2 (Take 2)
27 (28) PC Football Manager 2010 (Sega)
28 (26) PS3 Tiger Woods Pga Tour 11 (Electronic Arts)
29 (30) PS3 Battlefield: Bad Company 2 (Electronic Arts)
30 (34) WII New Super Mario Bros. Wii (Nintendo)
31 (32) NDS Club Penguin: Herbert's Revenge (Disney Interactive Studios)
32 (24) 360 Tiger Woods Pga Tour 11 (Electronic Arts)
33 (__) 360 Forza Motorsport 3 (Microsoft)
34 (38) NDS Pokemon Soulsilver (Nintendo)
35 (36) PC The Sims 3 (Electronic Arts)
36 (25) PS3 Prince Of Persia: The Forgotten Sands (Ubisoft)
37 (__) NDS Mario Kart Ds (Nintendo)
38 (33) PC The Sims 3: Ambitions (Electronic Arts)
39 (29) 360 Lego Harry Potter: Years 1-4 (Warner Bros. Interactive)
40 (__) PS3 Just Cause 2 (Square Enix Europe)

Ireland: Week 31, 2010 - Entertainment Software (All Prices)
01 (01) Toy Story 3 (Disney Interactive Studios)
02 (04) Dragon Quest Ix: Sentinels Starry Skies (Nintendo)
03 (03) Red Dead Redemption (Take 2)
04 (06) Tiger Woods Pga Tour 11 (Electronic Arts)
05 (07) Super Mario Galaxy 2 (Nintendo)
06 (02) Starcraft Ii: Wings Of Liberty (Activision Blizzard)
07 (05) Lego Harry Potter: Years 1-4 (Warner Bros. Interactive)
08 (08) Just Dance (Ubisoft)
09 (11) Dance On Broadway (Ubisoft)
10 (10) Fifa 10 (Electronic Arts)
11 (13) Call Of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 (Activision Blizzard)
12 (09) 2010 Fifa World Cup South Africa (Electronic Arts)
13 (16) New Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo)
14 (15) Wii Sports Resort (Nintendo)
15 (14) Just Cause 2 (Square Enix Europe)
16 (17) Grand Theft Auto Iv (Take 2)
17 (__) Grand Theft Auto Episodes - Liberty City (Take 2)
18 (__) Sniper: Ghost Warrior (City Interactive)
19 (__) F1 2009 (Codemasters)
20 (__) Club Penguin: Herbert's Revenge (Disney Interactive Studios)

Denmark: Week 31, 2010 - Entertainment Software (All Prices)
01 (01) Starcraft Ii: Wings Of Liberty (Activision Blizzard)
02 (02) Fifa 10 (Electronic Arts)
03 (04) Red Dead Redemption (K.e. Media)
04 (03) Wii Sports Resort (Nintendo)
05 (07) Lego Harry Potter: Years 1-4 (Pan Vision)
06 (05) Call Of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 (Activision Blizzard)
07 (17) New Super Mario Bros. Wii (Nintendo)
08 (11) Battlefield: Bad Company 2 (Electronic Arts)
09 (14) Grand Theft Auto Iv (K.e. Media)
10 (09) 2010 Fifa World Cup South Africa (Electronic Arts)
11 (12) The Sims 3: Ambitions (Electronic Arts)
12 (__) Just Dance (Ubisoft)
13 (10) New Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo)
14 (08) Pro Cycling Manager 2010: Tour De France (Focus Home Interactive)
15 (16) Super Mario Galaxy 2 (Nintendo)
16 (15) Grand Theft Auto Episodes - Liberty City (K.e. Media)
17 (__) Wii Fit Plus (Nintendo)
18 (20) The Sims 3 (Electronic Arts)
19 (19) Mario Kart Wii (Nintendo)
20 (__) Lego Batman: The Videogame (Pan Vision)

Netherlands: Week 31, 2010
01 (01) [PC] Starcraft II: Wings Of Liberty (Activision Blizzard)
02 (02) [WII] Super Mario Galaxy 2 (Nintendo)
03 (04) [WII] Mario Kart Wii (Nintendo)
04 (03) [PS3] Red Dead Redemption (Take 2)
05 (05) [WII] New Super Mario Bros. Wii (Nintendo)
06 (07) [PS3] Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 (Activision Blizzard)
07 (06) [360] Red Dead Redemption (Take 2)
08 (08) [NDS] Pokemon Soulsilver (Nintendo)
09 (09) [NDS] Pokemon Heartgold (Nintendo)
10 (__) [PC] The Sims 3: Ambitions (Electronic Arts)

France: Week 30, 2010
01 (01) [NDS] Dragon Quest Ix: Sentinels Starry Skies (Nintendo)
02 (02) [WII] Super Mario Galaxy 2 (Nintendo)
03 (05) [WII] Wii Fit Plus + Balance Board (Nintendo)
04 (03) [PS3] Red Dead Redemption (Take 2)
05 (04) [NDS] Pokemon Soulsilver (Nintendo)

Spain: July 2010
01 (01) [WII] Super Mario Galaxy 2 (Nintendo)
02 (__) [PC] Starcraft II: Wings Of Liberty (Activision Blizzard)
03 (04) [WII] New Super Mario Bros. Wii (Nintendo)
04 (02) [PS3] Red Dead Redemption (Take 2)
05 (__) [PSP] Play English (Sony Computer Ent.)
06 (05) [WII] Wii Fit Plus + Balance Board (Nintendo)
07 (03) [PS3] 2010 Fifa World Cup South Africa (Electronic Arts)
08 (10) [NDS] Pokemon Soulsilver (Nintendo)
09 (__) [PS3] Call Of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 (Activision Blizzard)
10 (__) [NDS] Pokemon Heartgold (Nintendo)

Sweden: Week 31, 2010
01 (01) [PC] Starcraft II: Wings Of Liberty
02 (04) [WII] Super Mario Galaxy 2
03 (03) [PS3] Red Dead Redemption
04 (02) [NDS] New Super Mario Bros.
05 (07) [PC] Kalle Kunskap Jubileumsbox
06 (06) [PC] The Sims 3: Ambitions
07 (05) [360] Red Dead Redemption
08 (11) [PC] The Sims 3
09 (12) [PS3] FIFA 10
10 (10) [WII] New Super Mario Bros Wii
11 (08) [PC] Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2
12 (15) [PC] Battlefield: Bad Company 2
13 (__) [PC] World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King
14 (14) [PS3] Battlefield: Bad Company 2
15 (13) [360] Battlefield: Bad Company 2
16 (18) [WII] Mario Kart Wii
17 (__) [PC]World of Warcraft Battlechest
18 (09) [360] FIFA 10
19 (19) [WII] Lego Harry Potter: Years 1-4
20 (__) [WII] Wii Sports: Resort

Germany: Week 31, 2010
01 (01) [WII] Super Mario Galaxy 2
02 (02) [NDS] Dragon Quest IX
03 (04) [NDS] Pokemon Soulsilver
04 (03) [PS3] Red Dead Redemption
05 (05) [WII] New Super Mario Bros. Wii
06 (06) [NDS] Pokemon Heartgold
07 (10) [WII] Wii Fit Plus + Balance Board
08 (07) [NDS] New Super Mario Bros.
09 (08) [PS3] Grand Theft Auto IV
10 (__) [PS3] Uncharted 2: Amog Thieves (Platinum)

[SalesBot]

Media Create: 8/2 - 8/8

01. / 00. [PSP] Tales of Phantasia: Narikiri Dungeon X (Bandai Namco) - 108.356 / NEW
02. / 03. [WII] Wii Party (Nintendo) - 82.698 / 611.718 (+0%)
03. / 01. [PS3] Sengoku Basara 3 (Capcom) - 57.021 / 299.719 (-77%)
04. / 02. [PSP] Hatsune Miku: Project Diva 2 (Sega) - 35.865 / 277.332 (-85%)
05. / 00. [PSP] StormLover (D3 Publisher) - 20.087 / NEW
06. / 13. [WII] Super Mario Galaxy 2 (Nintendo) - 16.695 / 748.897 (-7%)
07. / 10. [NDS] Fire Emblem: New Mystery of the Emblem - Hero of Light and Shadow (Nintendo) - 15.845 / 213.011 (-26%)
08. / 05. [WII] Sengoku Basara 3 (Capcom) - 15.387 / 65.209 (-69%)
09. / 00. [NDS] Battle Spirits: Digital Starter (Bandai Namco) - 15.338 / NEW
10. / 00. [NDS] Heart Catch PreCure! Oshare Collection (Bandai Namco) - 15.091 / NEW
11. / 00. [NDS] Tetris Party Deluxe (Hudson) - 14.016 / NEW
12. / 11. [WII] Dragon Quest: Monster Battle Road Victory (Square Enix) - 13.198 / 205.640 (-37%)
13. / 00. [NDS] Inazuma Eleven 3: World Challenge!! Spark (Level 5) - 13.118 / 401.796
14. / 04. [NDS] Kamen Rider Battle: Ganbaride Card Battle Taisen (Bandai Namco) - 12.939 / 77.206 (-80%)
15. / 09. [PSP] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2010 (Konami) - 12.360 / 115.454 (-44%)
16. / 14. [NDS] Taiko Drum Master DS: Dororon! Battle With the Ghouls!! (Bandai Namco) - 12.212 / 162.042
17. / 06. [NDS] Metal Max 3 (Kadokawa Shoten) - 11.645 / 58.599 (-75%)
18. / 16. [NDS] Friend Collection (Nintendo) - 11.510 / 3.364.020
19. / 00. [NDS] Inazuma Eleven 3: World Challenge!! Bomber (Level 5) - 11.106 / 349.831
20. / 23. [NDS] Art Academy (Nintendo) - 10.417 / 108.422

21. / 00. [PS2] J-League Winning Eleven 2010: Club Championship (Konami)
22. / 12. [PS3] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2010 (Konami)
23. / 17. [NDS] Harvest Moon: Twin Villages (Marvelous Entertainment)
24. / 15. [PS3] ModNation Racers (SCE)
25. / 24. [WII] Mario Kart Wii (Nintendo)
26. / 25. [WII] New Super Mario Bros. Wii (Nintendo)
27. / 00. [PS3] Assassin's Creed II: Special Edition (Ubisoft)
28. / 26. [WII] Wii Fit Plus (Nintendo)
29. / 27. [PSP] Monster Hunter Freedom Unite [PSP the Best Reprint] (Capcom)
30. / 34. [NDS] Digimon Story: Lost Evolution (Bandai Namco)
31. / 30. [PSP] Momotaro Railway Tag Match: Friendship - Cooperation - Winning Volume! (Hudson)
32. / 33. [NDS] New Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo)
33. / 20. [PS3] White Knight Chronicles: Awakening of Light and Darkness (SCE)
34. / 18. [PSP] Last Ranker (Capcom)
35. / 41. [NDS] Pokemon Heart Gold / Soul Silver (Pokemon Co.)
36. / 42. [PSP] Busou Shinki: Battle Masters (Konami)
37. / 00. [PS2] Persona 4 [PlayStation 2 the Best] (Atlus Co.)
38. / 08. [PSP] Ys Vs. Sora no Kiseki: Alternative Saga (Nihon Falcom)
39. / 47. [PSP] Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker (Konami)
40. / 22. [NDS] Quiz! Hexagon II (Bandai Namco)
41. / 36. [NDS] Tokimeki Memorial: Girl's Side 3rd Story (Konami)
42. / 00. [WII] Tetris Party Deluxe (Hudson)
43. / 45. [WII] Wii Sports Resort (Nintendo)
44. / 19. [NDS] Kaidan Restaurant: Ura Menu 100-Sen (Bandai Namco)
45. / 38. [NDS] Love Plus + (Konami)
46. / 21. [PSP] Fate/Extra (Marvelous Entertainment)
47. / 32. [NDS] Katekyoo Hitman Reborn! DS Flame Rumble XX: Kessen! Real 6 Chouka (Takara Tomy)
48. / 40. [NDS] Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker 2 (Square Enix)
49. / 46. [NDS] Tamagotchi no Pichi Pichi Omisecchi (Bandai Namco)
50. / 43. [PSP] Naruto Shippuden: Kizuna Drive (Bandai Namco)
51. / 39. [PSP] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2010: Blue Samurai Challenge (Konami)

00. / 00. [ALL] Weekly Software Sales (All Publishers) - 973.222 / 33.305.976 (-33%)

NDS - 22
PSP - 13
WII - 9
PS3 - 5
PS2 - 2
360 - 0
 

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|System |  This Week  |  Last Week  |        YTD  |         LTD  |
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|  NDS  |     43.708  |     45.128  |  1.414.867  |  30.693.947  |
|  PSP  |     31.106  |     49.380  |  1.265.138  |  15.008.226  |
|  PS3  |     28.630  |     45.224  |    887.417  |   5.388.784  |
|  WII  |     18.238  |     20.038  |    925.156  |  10.530.355  |
|  360  |      5.639  |      6.929  |    136.217  |   1.345.889  |
|  PS2  |      1.524  |      1.444  |     52.880  |  21.663.057  |
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| DSiLL |     21.018  |     23.120  |    751.243  |   1.258.150  |
|  DSi  |     18.318  |     17.950  |    523.527  |   4.862.473  |
|  DSL  |      4.372  |      4.058  |    140.097  |  17.987.853  |
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|  PSP  |     30.398  |     48.603  |  1.222.860  |  14.890.193  |
| PSPgo |        708  |        777  |     42.278  |     118.033  |
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[BlackNMild2k1]

Place Yer Bets People!!!!

The race to 1 million YTD is heating up.
Will the Wii cross that line first or will the PS3?

The PS3 is only 38k behind the Wii and has outsold the Wii by ~35k over the last 2 weeks.
Can the Wii maintain it's lead? Will the PS3 finally be able to put a feather in it's cap?
stay tuned.

[Mop it up]

Hell, I can easily see Wii Party breaking the 10 million mark since it'll probably appeal to the audience that made Wii Sports Resort huge last year.

I don't know, I have my doubts about Wii Party. I think it may end up similar to Wii Music; it won't have much appeal to the people who bought the other Wii series games, it's a game in the most over-saturated genre on the Wii, and it's going to get absolutely slammed by the gaming media. I'd guess 3 million tops (is Wii Music at 3 million? I forget).

Place Yer Bets People!!!!

The race to 1 million YTD is heating up.
Will the Wii cross that line first or will the PS3?

The PS3 is only 38k behind the Wii and has outsold the Wii by ~35k over the last 2 weeks.
Can the Wii maintain it's lead? Will the PS3 finally be able to put a feather in it's cap?
stay tuned.

My money's on the XBox 360 making a surprise comeback.

[Chozo Ghost]

Look, I'm a Nintendo fan and have been since I was a kid, but that doesn't change the fact that Wii sales are on the decline.

How would you being a fan change the fact that Wii sales are on the decline?

It doesn't. I just wanted to make it clear that I'm not some Sony/MS fanboy rejoicing in the fact that the competition is catching up. I just want Nintendo's consoles to have the same level of 3rd party support as the competition, but I can't see that happening unless it had a more powerful console. The Wii is selling well and Nintendo's own games are selling extremely well, but the Wii isn't the number one selling console anymore, and in a month or two it might even be the worst selling and I can't see how that can be averted, becasue its already the cheapest (not counting the 360 low-end model) console out there, so price cuts aren't going to help. What else can Nintendo do?

[broodwars]

I don't know, I have my doubts about Wii Party. I think it may end up similar to Wii Music; it won't have much appeal to the people who bought the other Wii series games, it's a game in the most over-saturated genre on the Wii, and it's going to get absolutely slammed by the gaming media. I'd guess 3 million tops (is Wii Music at 3 million? I forget).

I agree, though I think we'll be looking at something like the sales of Wii Sports Resort: it'll perform admirably, but nothing exceptional compared to the other Wii ______ games.  I estimate that it'll probably hit around 5-6 million unit worldwide in probably steady but not particularly impressive bursts.  The genre is just way oversaturated and it'll have a lot of competition from Kinect and Move for media attention and advertising at the time of its release.

[TJ Spyke]

Look, I'm a Nintendo fan and have been since I was a kid, but that doesn't change the fact that Wii sales are on the decline.

How would you being a fan change the fact that Wii sales are on the decline?

It doesn't. I just wanted to make it clear that I'm not some Sony/MS fanboy rejoicing in the fact that the competition is catching up. I just want Nintendo's consoles to have the same level of 3rd party support as the competition, but I can't see that happening unless it had a more powerful console. The Wii is selling well and Nintendo's own games are selling extremely well, but the Wii isn't the number one selling console anymore, and in a month or two it might even be the worst selling and I can't see how that can be averted, becasue its already the cheapest (not counting the 360 low-end model) console out there, so price cuts aren't going to help. What else can Nintendo do?

Again, you think that a TEMPORARY boost due to a new revision means the Xbox 360 has overtaken the Wii. At most it might get another small one in August, then the Wii will be back on top (like everytime the 360 or PS3 has gotten a boost). As Luigi Dude also pointed out, the Wii also increased year-over-year. I don't see what in the future will give any kind of boost to the PS3. Also, Microsoft doesn't actually have more than one model now (the existing Arcade and Elite have been discontinued and they are just selling off the remaining supply). So what makes you think that the Wii will suffer a drop in sales, that the PS3 will get a boost, and the 360 will keep its boost?

Wii Music didn't do as well because it got horrible reviews. Wii Play got mediocre reviews (but some good ones), but it was boosted by the fact that you get a free Wii Remote with it. Wii Play looks like a fun party game, I predict it was be very successful. I severely doubt that Kinect will be anything more than niche thanks to its $150 pricepoint and the lack of multiplatform games. PlayStation Move might be slightly better, but several of the Wii type games require two Moves controllers (meaning you need to spend $100 to play them).

[KDR_11k]

price cuts aren't going to help. What else can Nintendo do?

Price cuts never help, they give a short boost of sales and that's it. What Nintendo can do is release killer apps.

[Chozo Ghost]

Price cuts never help, they give a short boost of sales and that's it. What Nintendo can do is release killer apps.

I have to disagree with you there. When Sony cut the price of the PS3 down from $600 to its current $299 that did a lot more than just a "short" boost of sales. The less something costs the easier it is for customers to afford it and/or to justify making a purchase of it. It is highly doubtful that as well as the Wii is doing right now that it would be the case if the Wii was still priced at $249 as it was when it launched. But that only matters to a certain extent. When Nintendo marked the GC down to $99 and then to an unheard of $79 it didn't really help that much at all, but that was because it didn't have much new games at that late point in its life to really matter. So price cuts can help in some cases, in other cases they don't really do all that much though... but I think we can all agree that even if they never help sales very much they don't really hurt sales.

Eventually, Nintendo will lower the price of the Wii to $149 or even lower. Move and Kinect may force them to do that sooner rather than later. I hope it will help boost Wii sales similar to how Wii sales were boosted after the last price drop, but that remains to be seen. The severe drought of 3rd party and hardcore titles is still a major problem and price cuts aren't going to address that. So that's why I'm saying Nintendo needs to beef up the specs of its hardware at some point. If not right now, then certainly in the near future.

[NWR_insanolord]

The difference between $600 and $300 is a lot bigger than the one between $250 and $200. I didn't buy a PS3 until it dropped to $300, and I don't think anything could have changed that, but I don't think a $50 drop is going to make any difference in the long run. After the initial boost they'll be back to where they were, except making less money per sale.

[Chozo Ghost]

For the record I'm not saying a price cut is the answer, but I do think we'll probably see it happen this holiday season. If any one of the console makers cut the MSRP of their system you can be sure the others will follow suit soon after, and they all obviously want to get a sales boost for the holiday season whether its short term or not.

[GoldenPhoenix]

I think a new model of the Wii would do much better then a price cut. That is what 360 is riding off of. It doesn't have to be the Wii 2 just a revised Wii console. The issue with Wii isn't really games, or price it is just that the market has been saturated with 30 million Wiis so customers need a reason to double dip.

Also price cuts are mostly good in the short term unless they are a massive cut like the PS3 had which made the system from being completely out of many people's price range to being affordable.

[KDR_11k]

they all obviously want to get a sales boost for the holiday season whether its short term or not.

Yeah but a price cut hurts revenue in the long term.

[TJ Spyke]

Move and Kinect may force them to do that sooner rather than later.

I don't think that will happen though, I don't see either Kinect or PlayStation Move being anything more than niche (like how the EyeToy was or the PlayStation Eye so far).

KDR, price cuts only hurt revenue if they don't sell enough systems. For example, they will make more money selling 300K systems at $150 than they would 200K systems at $200 ($45 million vs. $40 million). The idea with price cuts are that they will get help them sell enough systems to make up the difference. They also just want to get as many systems out there as possible because they make money from every single game sold for the system.

[Deguello]

I agree, though I think we'll be looking at something like the sales of Wii Sports Resort: it'll perform admirably, but nothing exceptional compared to the other Wii ______ games.  I estimate that it'll probably hit around 5-6 million unit worldwide in probably steady but not particularly impressive bursts.

Wii Sports Resort has sold more than 16 million units worldwide.

[KDR_11k]

KDR, price cuts only hurt revenue if they don't sell enough systems. For example, they will make more money selling 300K systems at $150 than they would 200K systems at $200 ($45 million vs. $40 million). The idea with price cuts are that they will get help them sell enough systems to make up the difference. They also just want to get as many systems out there as possible because they make money from every single game sold for the system.

Yes but realistically a pricedrop might sell a few hundred thousand units which is WAAAAAY less than what the Wii will sell over its remaining lifetime without one.