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Well, here we are. The end of another Grand Prix. It was quite the exciting race and there seemed to be some excitement everyday with one twist after another. Like a good race, it came down to the final course so it wasn't a blowout either. Good stuff. Now, at least people can comfort themselves with having given themselves a chance to win.

So, now we wait for the judges final tally of points to tell us who sits where. Personally, I'm hoping the final podium is this:

3rd Blue
2nd Red
1st Green

I'd love to crack open some victory champagne. I wonder if I could pop the cork enough to hit that Cheep Cheep balloon over there? I wonder if that is even possible. Aw, I need to quit dreaming. No guarentee I've even won yet. My body is twitching away waiting. I need to distract myself for awhile. Maybe I'll go to my shop and crank the boom box and let the tunes distract. Oh yeah!
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Re: Super Mario Kart Mafia: Results. Winner's podium and ending credits.
« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2009, 01:13:54 AM »
I was rooting for anyone but red at the end!

Go Blue!  Then Green!

Edit:  So if stevey is actually on the blue team, who used the blue shell on day 2?

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« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2009, 01:22:26 AM »
Stevey used the Blue shell on Day 2.
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« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2009, 01:30:33 AM »
Didn't Plugabugz officially announce that both the lightning bolt and the blue shell had been used by red team members?  I don't recall reading that someone switched teams...

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« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2009, 01:41:14 AM »
The lightning bolt and the star were the two items that were supposed to be team items I believe. Last Mario Kart game, Star and Lightning bolt were the special team items so I think that stayed the same. You'll notice blue shell is also listed as an item either team can get and then listed as Blue's special item. I believe that was another mix-up. Since Red received both the lightning bolt and the star, I expected Blue to get a lightning bolt and star but they only got the star and another blue shell. Whatever. With the second blue shell never getting used, it all works out in the end.
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Re: Super Mario Kart Mafia: Results. Winner's podium and ending credits.
« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2009, 01:41:40 AM »
Wow. I didn't realize you hated the Blue team so much...

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« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2009, 01:46:16 AM »
http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=28665.msg525209#msg525209

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I have made another spectacular **** up, literally identical to last year. In response, there are no red/blue team-specific items.

I accidentally gave both team specific items to red in Day Two. This will be re-balanced shortly. I only noticed an hour ago.

I'm sorry if these minor changes aren't helping, i'm kinda disappointed in myself personally because i should have this all locked down.


If stevey was on the blue team, then he couldn't have been the one with the shell, unless more than one shell were present that day.  Plain and simple.

He had to be on the red team, unless someone else had a blue shell.  Did anyone else have a blue shell?

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« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2009, 01:47:50 AM »
That's exactly why I thought Stevey was Red until he showed me a screencap of Plugabugz assignment PM on day 6.

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« Reply #8 on: July 01, 2009, 01:50:16 AM »
Both team specific items would be the Star and Lightning Bolt which Team Red had. I know Plugabugz said the Blue shell was team specific but that was a mistake like a few other things. I hate to keep bringing up the errors he made since he feels awful about them but that's where it is at. This time, I made sure to ask a lot of questions since I was almost burned in my first Mario Kart Mafia for not asking them.
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« Reply #9 on: July 01, 2009, 01:51:51 AM »
Well that explains a lot. Thatguy had a star on day 2 so he must have been the one Plugabugz was referring to.

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« Reply #10 on: July 01, 2009, 01:59:28 AM »
Oh.  Well, there we go.  That makes sense.  Now I know why he stabbed me in the back, it wasn't a back stab.

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« Reply #11 on: July 01, 2009, 02:05:52 AM »
And yet I was so convinced Stevey was Red that I thought he photoshopped the screencap he showed me.

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« Reply #12 on: July 01, 2009, 02:51:11 AM »
Well, I'd like to point out that the key to this game is twofold for red/blue:

Make the first victory.  Do whatever it takes to win the first vote.  Manipulate it all, talk to everyone.  Scare whomever.  Whatever it takes to vote off the opposing team's color.

From there, don't be greedy.  Try to work with the other team to eliminate the "mafia" team, in this case, the green team.  Make connections, be straightforward.  The truth is, if your team captured the number advantage that first day, then as long as you can convince the opposing team to go after the mafia team with you, then you have little to fear.  At the end, you'll have greater numbers than the opposing team, and items, truthfully, should neutralize each other in the long run.

The wrench in my plans?  The item mix-up made me believe one enemy was a team member with absolute conviction, and secondly, I while I could get the blue to support me in going against the green, I wasn't able to convince my own team to.  For some reason, I was perceived as a threat to some red team members, despite not once doing anything threatening towards them.  (Seriously, I threatened stevey, Mop_it_up, Maxi, and Khush, and killed Stratos without a threat.  What was up with that, red team!?)

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« Reply #13 on: July 01, 2009, 06:21:21 AM »
In the last big hurrah the pow block has been used.

The votes were randomised by someone else (Everyone was assigned numbers. Person chose numbers in any order, not knowing what they were for) The new votes stand as:

Drew votes for stevey.
GP votes for stevey.
Khush votes for vudu.
Vudu votes for Drew.
Stevey votes for Khush.

At two votes, stevey is dead. He was blue.

Final item uses (having been randomised by the POW):
Vudu's mystery box was used on GP (taking her to one point).
Drew's red shell was used on khush (killing him off). Green.
Stevey's banana was used on drewmg (taking him to one point).
Green Team's red shell went to vudu (killing him off). Red.

No red team players remain.
One green team player remains.
One blue player remains.

ITS A TIE! GP and DrewMG survived to the end.
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« Reply #14 on: July 01, 2009, 08:07:06 AM »
See, GoldenPhoenix, this was my plan all along!

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« Reply #15 on: July 01, 2009, 08:26:50 AM »


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In the last big hurrah the pow block has been used.

The votes were randomised by someone else (Everyone was assigned numbers. Person chose numbers in any order, not knowing what they were for) The new votes stand as:

The ****? The pow was supposed to randomize items? Also there were 3 people near death not four! The green team can no longer win if everyone is not dead!

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Day 6(3red and 3blue)

At 5 votes, Daaaaman64 is dead. He was red. A Toyota Prius is no match for DAISY!
Theperm is now dead. He was hit with a red shell. He had a blue shell when he died. He was blue.
Dasmos is now dead. He was killed off when he died. Chances of Green winning went with him.

THE ENDGAME BEGINS!
The blue team is now in danger of losing the game. They cannot lose anyone else if they want to win.
The Green team cannot win in their current state.

 Also the win criteria for red was they had to remove half the players of blue and green. But blue never was given that option since they had they same number of players and unlike red we had 3 blue on day 7 with only 2 red and green members. Where's our win!
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« Reply #16 on: July 01, 2009, 08:29:37 AM »
Hmm, yeah that is a bit suspect.  I just noticed that GP also had 2 points, but Plugabugz did say that 4 out of 5 players were near death.  No wonder Khush thought I was lying when I told him I had 2 points.
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« Reply #17 on: July 01, 2009, 09:43:57 AM »
Heh a tie. Wow has that ever happened?
Maxi is dead. I killed him and took his posts and changed genders.
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« Reply #18 on: July 01, 2009, 10:56:48 AM »
Wow quiet a turnaround for Green and Blue teams.After I was voted out I thought it was over for Green Team.
After having 1 blue player voted out on the first day it was a uphill battle for blue.

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« Reply #19 on: July 01, 2009, 02:29:21 PM »
I wasn't able to convince my own team to.  For some reason, I was perceived as a threat to some red team members, despite not once doing anything threatening towards them.  (Seriously, I threatened stevey, Mop_it_up, Maxi, and Khush, and killed Stratos without a threat.  What was up with that, red team!?)
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« Reply #20 on: July 01, 2009, 02:46:08 PM »
Why does GP win, too?  She votes for Drew, Drew votes for her.  No one dies.  Tonight Drew attacks GP with an item.  GP is defenseless.  Drew wins.

I wouldn't go so far as to say GP was voted out. I thought Vudu might do something like that and I was disappointed to see that he did considering I've given him and Red team the chance to win.

It was my only chance of winning, and you know this.  If I voted out Stevey and you took out Drew I would have still lost the game because you out-numbered me.  If you had attacked Drew last night (like you told me you were going to) I would have won.  Oh well, no use crying over spilled milk.

I just want to say I really don't like this game model.  Too much is left up to chance and blind luck.  I much prefer straight forward mafia.

Also, I really am starting to get annoyed by the people in the dead thread.  I feel like they're talking too much and hurting the players who are still alive.  I know Khush saw that I made the last-minute vote switch last night, but if he had missed it he certainly wouldn't have missed the fact that people in the dead thread were announcing it to the world.

My hope was that he wouldn't have used the POW block last night since he thought stevey was going to be voted out.  Khush told me that he was going to attack Drew with the red shell.  My plan was to attack stevey with a mystery box (since his star would have run out).  Stevey and Drew agreed to attack Khush if I made the last-minute vote change to GP.  Since everyone else would have been dead (maybe; not sure how the item priorities work in this situation) I would have won.

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« Reply #21 on: July 01, 2009, 02:53:54 PM »
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Stevey and Drew agreed to attack Khush if I made the last-minute vote change to GP.

I kept my word, even if there's no evidence of it.
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« Reply #22 on: July 01, 2009, 03:03:15 PM »
Hold up! There seem to be some flaws here and I'm getting tired of the mistakes. To quote your very first message to the green team:

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POW - Randomises all votes and item usage. Except Green Team.

I take that to mean that our votes and items will not be randomized. Yet, my vote was changed and my red shell last night was changed from its target. Here is my actions from last night:

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Green Team Strike Force Action:
Green Team sends our final Red Shell against DrewMG
Green Team activates the POW block and relies on the fickle fate of fortune to hopefully strike Vudu with a weapon.

So, it should be Drew that gets the Red shell, not Vudu.

Even worse is the faulty voting information. At the end of Day 7 having voted out RABicle, I sent you and GP this message:

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And so we stand at the threshold of the end. Tomorrow will mean victory for one team but which one? There is still too many unknown factors at this point. If my information is correct, as of right now the points on the remaining people are:

Stevey - 1 point
Mop_It_Up - 1 point
DrewMG - 2 point

Vudu - 2 points

Golden Phoenix - 2 points
Khushrenada - 1 point

Based on that information, my suggestion for tomorrow was this:

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We attack DrewMG tomorrow. For green and glory.

However, when Day 8 started, you stated the following:

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Red Team is nearly completely dead. Four players are near death. Five players remaining.

How can four people be near death if 2 have them have 2 points? Why does 1 person's 2 points make them closer to death than another person's 2 points? The worse thing is, I let that information change my vote.

Again, after seeing it, I sent this message to you and GP:

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Congratulations team. We have done the impossible. Given ourselves the chance to win. And man, are we in good position. It has all paid off. Since we know GP has not been hit, all other players have one point. Therefore, our goal is to vote together one blue member out. We shall use our red shell to snipe another player and hope the POW block takes out the last remaining player. With 2 votes on blue, the randomizing of the votes should keep the vote the same. The only question is, who should we attack?

It was at that point that I decided to vote stevey for the day instead of DrewMG since I felt a bit more for trusting me earlier with his team info. I figured it didn't matter which Blue I attacked, they both had 1 point. If at some point, you had corrected your error, the vote would have stayed on DrewMG. I knew on Day 7 that he had used the oil slick and had 2 points. Gah!

Do you have any explantion for these errors? When you are getting all these messages and I'm using the information that I'm getting from you, do you at any point realize they're making a mistake because of the info I've given them? Maybe I should correct that?
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« Reply #23 on: July 01, 2009, 03:23:53 PM »
So, it should be Drew that gets the Red shell, not Vudu.

Interesting ....

Also worth noting is that your votes were randomized, too.  It just so happened that stevey lost the randomized vote, too.

How can four people be near death if 2 have them have 2 points? Why does 1 person's 2 points make them closer to death than another person's 2 points? The worse thing is, I let that information change my vote.

I can answer that one.  I lied about my points.  I only had 1 point at the time.  But since my item was a mystery box (which I could not use to defend myself) I didn't want you to know that one strike and I was kaput.
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« Reply #24 on: July 01, 2009, 04:09:51 PM »
I will redo everything if nobody minds, fixing this won't take long.

Part of the problem comes from repeatedly having to change things from people changing their mind about what to do with who - I go through PM's in chronological order, meaning having to backtrack takes time as i lose my train of thought going forward. Second part comes from the system i'm using to note everything has two seperate descriptions for things. Thirdly, having a full-time 1yr old nephew since i got back from NYC is incredibly distracting to concentrate on something as complex as this.

Even though I have scribbled ideas for Mario Kart Mafia 64, I don't feel up to the task of hosting another mafia for a long while.