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[Star Fox Mafia] Wrap-up thread (nsf56k)
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RE: [Star Fox Mafia] Wrap-up thread (nsf56k)
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2006, 01:23:52 AM »
Fantastic, brilliant. Team Star Wolf rules the galaxy! Don't worry Panther I will send one of my future minions back for you later. You will be rewarded greatly.
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RE:[Star Fox Mafia] Wrap-up thread (nsf56k)
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2006, 02:13:49 AM »
You know, on the day Zach was voted out, I began to think Decoyman was the traitor. He didn't bold his vote for Khush, and he was first to vote for him on the second day, perhaps to distance himself from Khush. After all, it wouldn't mater since everyone was going to vote for Khush. But I was killed that night, so it didn't really affect the game.

Congrats to Star Wolf, you and your allies were really slippery fish.
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« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2006, 03:51:07 AM »
Wow.  WOW.

That's the last time I let a 12 year friendship bring about something as valuable as "trust."
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« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2006, 04:38:42 AM »
"What happens in the funhouse stays in the funhouse"-Vudu

Personally I want to know what the weapon is.  I mean Wolf could at the very least picked me off personally in a dogfight...
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« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2006, 05:03:52 AM »
Yeah, what is this weapon? Is it an actual weapon of war, or some technological wonder like a machine that can create matter, or perpetual energy?
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« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2006, 08:06:31 AM »
heh, I'm loved. I said it from the start. You all were gonna die! heh,, but even so I still luv ya! Kudos Team Wolf We had ownage .
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« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2006, 08:40:44 AM »
Like Stevey said, The idea of Decoyman having voted for khush to get rid of suspicion on himself did cross my mind.  I didnt think that was what was going on, but I wasnt surprised by it.  I couldnt tell anyone about this suspicion though, after all, dead people dont talk.

Well played khush, I now know that you managed to buy yourself that extra day without even having to rely on the mafia vote.  You got a majority of THE TOWNIES to vote against me.

Anyway.  Im not too upset about how this turned out, call it sour grapes, but the only townies left were the ones who fell for Khush's ploy in the first place.  I mean COME ON, the noob was able to see right through it!

Edit: I gotta ask, what was it about what khush said that made him so much more believable?
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« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2006, 09:47:33 AM »
Yeah, umm, sorry about that, Drew I was really hoping you wouldn't contact me. I knew if you did, it would start and it wouldn't end until one of us was dead.

Ceric, I didn't have to turn my deception on you until later, but I was still unhappy about that (I hope you got my last PM). I hate proving I'm a good liar.

But you know what? I made sure to never state outright to either of you that I was a townie/vacationer. I was careful to avoid any outright lies. That may be a small concession, but that's something I refrained from doing. I just gave myself an air of innocence in the rest of my messages. Deception is the name of the game in mafia. But it's, as I've said, easier deceiving people you don't know. Unfortunately, I didn't have that luxury this game.

One other thing: Stevey, sorry to have used you as the last-day target... but DANG, if you didn't look guilty. I really hoped you'd come up with some amazing arguments against my accusations, but I think it wasn't really possible. The voting pattern had you.

Anyways, good game, guys. I played my absolute hardest because I trusted you all would be too. If you want revenge, I'll be around for the next game.

I think I feel a VEDETTA coming on...

EDIT: Stabby, that was actually a total accident. I realized it after the fact that I hadn't bolded. Maybe it was my subconscious?? I did fully intend to vote for Khush that day though – it was all part of the game plan.
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« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2006, 10:31:55 AM »
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But you know what? I made sure to never state outright to either of you that I was a townie/vacationer. I was careful to avoid any outright lies. That may be a small concession, but that's something I refrained from doing. I just gave myself an air of innocence in the rest of my messages. Deception is the name of the game in mafia. But it's, as I've said, easier deceiving people you don't know. Unfortunately, I didn't have that luxury this game.
 Yeah, I did that once too.  In the Pokemafia game everyone was accusing me of being a mafia doctor, when in reality I was the townie doctor (which wasn't that much better since us doctors decided to ally ourselves).  But the thing was that I never denied being a doctor, I denied being a MOB Doctor.

Thing is you gotta be careful with that, if you do it too much, people are gonna start checking to see if you actually deny being mafia.
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« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2006, 11:56:25 AM »
Yep, I know it. So, having said it out loud in the mafia thread, I'll have to change my tactics for the next game.

Oh, a hundred billion thanks to Wandering for running a heckuva mafia game. All the graphics and avvies and storytelling. All very well done. (golf clap) I don't see why you get so much crap about being the worst mafia host. What happened in your last game anyways??

... and what was the weapon??? Come on, at least PM me, I should know since I went to get it!
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« Reply #11 on: November 12, 2006, 02:29:49 PM »
I had a blast.  Looking forward to the next game.  I'm even going to try to host a game with another group of my online friends.  Thanks to Khush and Decoy for making my inaugural Mafia game a memorable one.  grumble grumble...
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« Reply #12 on: November 12, 2006, 03:46:12 PM »
Looks like I'm late to the party.


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Well played khush, I now know that you managed to buy yourself that extra day without even having to rely on the mafia vote.  You got a majority of THE TOWNIES to vote against me.

Anyway.  Im not too upset about how this turned out, call it sour grapes, but the only townies left were the ones who fell for Khush's ploy in the first place.  I mean COME ON, the noob was able to see right through it!

Edit: I gotta ask, what was it about what khush said that made him so much more believable?



Yeah, that was the point. Since it would seem most likely that my mob partner voted with me to save me, we left all those who voted for me in the game. It kept the suspicion level higher on them. Plus, they did deserve some reward for working with me. Decoyman and I even talked about having Ceric be the last townie standing. He was also a friend with Decoyman and he was the only one I knew who had picked Decoyman as mafia for awhile. I wasn't sure if Stevey figured it out by the end or just voted Decoyman because he thought he was trying to bandwagon the vote. I was surprised Dasmos didn't vote.

It's too bad about Drew. He's a good player. He mentioned that he had played a few of these games before so that raised his threat level to me. If he had voted with me, we probably would have let him live because of his friendship with Decoyman. Plus, he was protecting him also. Trust me Drew. Your hit was the hardest for Decoyman.



As for what I said, I don't know if it was anything I really said that did it but more the way I said it. If you get what I'm saying. You can convey tone in writing and it may have been my tone that seemed more believable than yours. Plus, I never let up. Ask Blackfootsteps, Crimm, Ceric, or Bill.
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« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2006, 04:15:56 PM »
Thats true, I was away most of that day so I couldnt defend myself.  Also, I did not have an elaborate story (as I was telling the truth).  Since you were lieing, you actually had to make a detailed story.

All I had was "I investigated him, and he was mafia." Thats a valuable lesson for future games.  A lot of the time, the person with the simple story is the one telling the truth.
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« Reply #14 on: November 12, 2006, 04:33:21 PM »
Khush, I didn't just vote for decoyman because he voted for me it was because he was so cocky about being able to kill the last traitor in the dead thread when no one had a clue and what stabby said about not bolding his vote for Khush, and being jumpy vote for him the next day. But then decoyman threw me off by trying to find out who's mafia and dasmos was the only one left that could be mafia....

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« Reply #15 on: November 12, 2006, 04:43:21 PM »
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Oh, a hundred billion thanks to Wandering for running a heckuva mafia game. All the graphics and avvies and storytelling. All very well done. (golf clap) I don't see why you get so much crap about being the worst mafia host. What happened in your last game anyways??

Well, thanks.

I think there were a couple of problems with my last game. For one thing, the rules were pretty confusing. One role, for example, was explained as follows: "The mysterious Mushroom’s Assassin -- who was, as legend had at, not to be trusted." For another, the story was pretty masturbatory. Evil bioluminescent mushrooms, Evil mayors, evil corporate executives, and good and noble anti-videogame crusaders are all well and good, but, at the end of the day, everything should be in the service of gameplay. Having a long, complicated, confusing backstory involving a decently sized cast of characters who had absolutely nothing to do with the players probably turned alot of people off. I think I thought the story might help to get players more involved - that maybe they would spend their time discussing what was going on and trying to figure everything out. But I think the story actually did the opposite - it made people feel disconnected from the game, as evidenced by the fact that not a single person role-played.

Oh, and then there was the fact that the townies got their asses kicked...which, unfortunately for me, seems to be a running theme in my games.

I tried to make Star Fox Mafia the anti-Mafia IV. I wanted it to be streamlined, simple, and polished to a fine sheen. I wanted it to be completely gameplay focused.

...Did I succeed? Well, I was worried when I saw the intro I had typed up was four pages long (the story seemed so simple in my head!)....but I told myself it was comparable to the intros of other mafia games . I was also worried when so few people signed up....but I told myself my timing wasn't that great, and also that it was natural that people wouldn't want to commit to playing a game I was hosting until they were sure I would do a good job.

...And doing a good job was what I was determined to do. My desire to prove myself lead me to spend far more time on this game than I think was strictly necessary. Future mafia hosts: please don't feel obligated to spend hours in photoshop. (BTW, I'm glad you liked the graphics, decoyman. I'm pretty pleased with how they turned out...though there are definitely alot of rough spots where my inexperience shows through. I'm sure you could've done much better.)

Overall, I think this game turned out pretty well. It sounds like people enjoyed it. But I suppose the real test is if/when I host another mafia game: either huge amounts of players, kicking themselves over missing Star Fox Mafia, will come and sign up...or only four people will come, as everyone else politely coughs and looks the other way.

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RE:[Star Fox Mafia] Wrap-up thread (nsf56k)
« Reply #16 on: November 12, 2006, 05:01:24 PM »
This game sucked.  Wandering sucks.
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« Reply #17 on: November 12, 2006, 05:27:21 PM »
I'd like to reveal that before the game started people were already approaching me with plans to vote off stevey first.
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« Reply #18 on: November 12, 2006, 05:36:43 PM »
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Wandering sucks.

I know you do, but what do I? OOOOOO.

I bet you wouldn't have died so early if you had used the lovely avatar I sent you.  
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« Reply #19 on: November 12, 2006, 07:04:18 PM »
That is an awesome avatar.

Personally, I had feeling that your game would probably have fewer people join but for reasons other than the fact that you were hosting. Last game was 34 people. That's just insanity. Plus, it went on for a quite awhile. What was it? 11 days? I can't even remeber now? Plus, I was away for 3 days and we took a break. So, I figured there would be more people away. I am disappointed though because I thought some others might show up like BigJim or Mantidor or Knowsnothing or MattVDB. Even TYP but he's pretty busy right now I think. Plus, I keep hoping we'll see the return of someone like Unclebob or Blacknmild. They haven't played since Pale's game. I guess they're done with it.

Because of this, I had a feeling there would probably be less of a turn out since some people might want a longer break from a game. And then there was a zombie crisis thing that got started and stopped. I think that might have killed the enthusiasm for wanting to play another game.



Still, Wandering's Star Fox mafia also gets the distinction of being the first mafia to have me voted out. Congratulations to Decoyman, Ceric, Dasmos, and Drew. You are the first to successfully vote me out of a game. I've either lived to the end or been killed during the night. And then there was this one time I hosted. I'd have loved ot have lived through to the end of a game again. But at least I was finally able to break my 3 day curse and get to the fourth day of a mafia. Sure, I was doomed from the beginning of that day but that didn't stop me from running wild and trying to keep people from figuring out who the other member could be.

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True, but the Wii isn't launching at the same time as the 360 and .............................. and it's late at night and I don't feel like making up another lie to counter your point. Just agree with me or the mafia will whack you tonight. (That should add an extra point to the vedetta!)
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« Reply #20 on: November 12, 2006, 07:24:08 PM »
Ironically, khush, the main reason I did not change my vote was that I had already agreed upon a plan to vote you out with Decoy.  I thought that if I backed out and went with Zach, that Decoy would start to suspect me.

So, really, your partner did you in that first day of conflict.
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« Reply #21 on: November 12, 2006, 07:56:35 PM »
I'd just thought I'd post this. If you're really into strategy and wanted to know what I was thinking for this game and how I got through the crucial parts and tried to set things up. Here you go. If you ar an insomniac and you can't sleep. Here you go. Trust me. It works. I bored Zach to tears with this. On the last day, we were talking things over and I just let him know everything. Although, I did add a few more things.


(Keep in mind. This is a convo to Zach. So, that's who I'm often refering to.)

When I started this game, I looked at the number situation. It was possible for us to win the game at day 4 with a 2-2 townie/mafia ratio. And if it happened, great. But I had a feeling it might go to day 5 with a 3-1 ratio. I even began thinking of a scenario for such an occasion. Basically, that Decoyman would start and lead a vote against me on Day 4. Hopefully, it would make him look the most innocent. After all, when your mafia has a chance to win that day, why would you vote out on member and risk your chances? I never mentioned these plans because I wanted to wait and see how things unfolded.

Everything was fine until the start of day 3 with your announcement. I began running through scenarios and wondering what I could. So, I made my attack in a hope to confuse people. I also decided it would be best to start putting my death plan into action. I waited first. After all, it was you and me voting for each other and Ceric doing whatever. But then Drew voted for me. So, I sent Decoyman a pm and told him to vote for me. I told him that under no circumstances, no matter how tempting, should he change his vote. Even if it gets me voted out, keep it on me. After all, we both knew who would be proven right after that night and you don't want to be on the wrong side. I then began seeing what support I could drum up and disproving some of your very good arguments.

Talking to Ceric was very interesting. He told me his supicions in the game. He felt Decoyman or Dasmos was mafia. He said that he and Decoyman had worked together in the past and so far during this game, Decoyman hadn't really contacted him. That was suspicious. Dasmos, he just had an unsure feeling about. I remained neutral to his suggestion about Decoyman, saying that I had never worked with him in a mafia game, so I didn't know what his behavior is normally like. And that was true. This was the first time working together. I also added my two cents about Dasmos.

At the same time, I was talking with Dasmos. He asked me some questions and I responded as best as I could since I was taking the guise of an unsure townie. I also let him know my convo with Stabby and that seemed to do it.

Ceric, for some reason, thought that we were both innocent and were going after the wrong people. He wanted to know if I would start or join a vote against someone else. Although it was a possibilty, I reasoned well on why I couldn't. Then when Dasmos voted with me, I sent Ceric a message and he joined in the vote. He didn't think it was worthwhile though. He felt the best we could achieve was a tie. I let him know that Drew was on the fence and that would give us the advantage. He also thought that the mafia would kill me tonight in revenge. But, I gave another good explanation on why they might not. So, he finally seemed locked up with me.

Stevey sent me a note saying that he believed me and then started talking about 4 mafia members and how they all might be voting for me. I didn't bother trying to set him straight about the game. I just let him think whatever he was thinking and made sure he was with me. It was then that I felt Stevey would be a usefu ally to have to the end. And then, I somehow had it. A tie. I was just waiting for Drew to help me do the unthinkable. I was as cordial as possible but there was no budging him. Decoyman was probably anxious to change his vote and complete the coup but I sent him another pm telling him to stay against me.

Since I might have been out of the game right away, I wrote out two scenarios for him and Blackfootsteps to follow. One if I lived and one if I died. Who to keep, who to hit and how to act. Since Decoyman was friend's with Drew, he had been having conversations with him and learned he was the doctor. He also learned Drew would be giving him protection. This made it very hard for him to hit Drew even though that was required in both scenarios. When the coin flip came up positive, we both freaked out and all in the mafia expressed their amazement at the coup. We then sat down and planned out the future. We all knew I was goner now but how do we set-up Decoyman to go to the end looking innocent? We decided it was key to hit the other people who voted for me. Keeping around those who voted with me gave more suspicion to them. Plus, I had learned what some of them were thinking.

Since Decoyman was hesitant about Drew, we went with a hit on Stabby first. Now that my accusations against him would be proven false, it seemed best to remove him and keep other townies from contacting someone clearly above suspicion. I ran over who would be the best people to go up against at the end. It was obvious Drew would have to go. Also, to keep anyone from looking to far ahead, I was just going to go and be as big a distraction as I could. At the same time, I wanted to just remain neutral about everyone. So, I did my vote for everyone mockery thing in the voting thread. If someone wanted to examine that, let them, it would provide nothing. Everyone I had voted for before was dead, so they could get nothing from my voting record. I didn't vote that day because I didn't want people misreading it.

As the votes slowly piled in, I began to wonder if there was anything I could do to change the votes. Drew had made a post about me digging my own grave, so I started talking to him a bit. I even sent him a plan suggesting he vote for anyone but me. Then, I'd join him in the vote. Maybe my other mafia partner would join me and make it a tie. He rejected the idea of course and then I realized a better strategy. Tell him to go along with the idea or he would be killed in the night. I then sent that message out to everyone. I also made sure my partner got the message. And just for fun, I even made sure Dasmos' message was worded differently just in case people started comparing notes. I remember what happened to Decoyman in S-U-P-E-R's game.

Then, lo and behold, Stevey chickened out after getting my message. So, then I sent him another one commending him for his decision and stated that if he revoted for me, he would die for sure since that betrayal would be worse than the others who are currently voting for me. That kept Stevey out for the night and made him look worse. Best of all, he posted a message asking how many mafia there were. I decided I better post something about that. It was just a joke but people could read what they wanted out of it. Things were going along great.

Drew, probably thinking he was the only one who had a death threat, made a plea to the doctor to get me to double guess hitting him. It seems my death threat idea had him prepared to meet his end. I think this helped Decoyman ok the hit against him. Now it wouldn't be such a terrible shock for him. Plus, it had to be the 3 who voted with me still at the end. After all, it would seem very likely that one of them was a traitor who tried to help save me. Decoyman was the last standing of the original vote only because I couldn't hit them all in time and Drew and I seemed to have had a bigger fight. Plus, it got rid of the doctor and kept it from looking like Decoyman was mafia. Why would he hit his friend when they had been working together all this time? Not to mention, he was getting support from him. Not that people knew that. It left us with these people left.

Ceric - suspicious voting habits. Voted with me. He knows he told me about Decoyman and Dasmos. Might wonder if I let him live because he didn't suspect who my mafia buddy really is, Stevey.

Stevey - mixed up about the rules. This mix-up might make him easier to fool. Voted with me. Didn't vote against me. Plus, my comment about him.

Dasmos - voted with me and started the rally. Quiet, so you can't get a read on him. But he is experienced. Could be trying to fly under the radar. Plus, set him up with a differently worded threat.

Decoyman - voted against me the whole time. He did vote for TVMan but that's because he agreed with my strategy of not letting non-voters live. Plus, I was the one who started the bandwagon against TVMan. Really, hasn't done anything wrong. Lost his friend Drew who was working with him.

Still, why is Decoyman the only survivor of the voters with Zach? That's the only suspicious area. That and his non-vote at the start. Fortunately, I did call himout on that earlier in the game along with other people. He could use that as back-up. But the plan to make him look most trustworthy at the end paid off.

For final advice, I told him not to accuse anyone because you don't want to draw attention to yourself. Also, don't start a vote. After all, anyone you vote for is innocent and they know it. At the same time, don't appear eager to join a vote or start a bandwagon. Play it cool. Let others contact you. You will seem the most trustworthy so let them come to you. If you do get a vote, don't lose your cool and don't get into a debate like I do. Calmly pm the person and see if there's anything you can do to change their mind. If you do have to post something, keep it short and do not look like you are trying to spread suspicion.

He wrote me back saying he had planned for today, so I wasn't sure what he was going to do exactly. I was worried when he did finally join the vote for Stevey. It might have been best to be the third to vote. It did get a vote from Stevey. Also, I was afraid his post in the dead thread might come off as too pro-townie and garner some suspicion.

Finally, it should be stated that everything just seemed to fall into place when we needed. We discussed our hits the first day and I laid out an order for us to follow. I didn't really want this to get out as I'm sure it will make more enemies for me next game but what the heck? I'm drunk with voctory now. Vudu was the first choice. He is a powerful townie and I had just finished watching him win my mafia game. Plus, I felt he wouldn't trust me much. And since I was going after non-voters in the voting thread. It was best we kill voters at night. The next choice on the list was TVMan. He was who I was planning to vote for the next day anyways, so it made Vudu an even bigger priority.

Surprisingly, Decoyman started the TVMan vote. I waited until Stabby finally posted and then I joined in the hunt. Best of all, others seem to agree on this choice. One other nice point, Zach for some reason decided to vote for Stevey. Stevey responded with a vote that sounded like he still had a vendetta against Zach. That was what I had hoped. Maybe Stevey could be used to vote for Zach and 18 Days if needed. On the list I had given, Dasmos was the next hit, followed by 18 Days. However, I was away late and when I got online, I learned that they had decided to hit 18 Days instead tonight. Blackfootsteps had agreed with my assement that she could be quite vocal in her suspicions and was good at forming a townie alliance. So, he felt she would be the better target. I can't fault him for that. Plus, it means there was at least one death I wasn't responsible for. Spak-Spang being the other.

These early deaths were a big factor in how I got away with my Fox Deception. I seriously doubt Vudu would have bought it. He's been on my case a few mafia's. Especially S-U-P-E-R's mafia. Same for TVMan. I highly doubt that he would have supported me. 18 Days. I don't know how she would have reacted. But since Dasmos had been the other choice and he worked with me, it definitly looks like the right choice was made. In the end, I'd like to say it was pure strategy that got us the win but I recognize the luck. The Dasmos hit and the coin toss. Like I said, things just seemed to go right.



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RE:[Star Fox Mafia] Wrap-up thread (nsf56k)
« Reply #22 on: November 12, 2006, 08:10:12 PM »
One final thing I want to post that is seperate from the above post.

Do we have a host for the next mafia game? I can't remember anyone stepping forward. I think this first time we haven't had someone ready ot go for the next game. It seems like we might not have a game for awhile sonce people will be busy with Zelda and then the holidays will be here. It seems this might be the last game for awhile. I could host again but I do love playing so much. But even then, I wouldn't be able to host until late December/early January. Any thoughts on what is happening?
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RE: [Star Fox Mafia] Wrap-up thread (nsf56k)
« Reply #23 on: November 13, 2006, 01:39:49 AM »
Very interesting reading, Khush.  

I was on the fence about voting, but only once did I actually seriously consider changing my vote to Zach.  Your constant barrage of PMs convincing me otherwise was actually working against you in this case.  Like I said, and has been said several times - he with the simplest story probably has the truthful one.

Still, props to go everyone in this game.  I'm chomping at the bit for the next game.  Wii and Zelda be damned, let's get started.  It's not like I'll be playing Twilight Princess at work during the day.
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RE: [Star Fox Mafia] Wrap-up thread (nsf56k)
« Reply #24 on: November 13, 2006, 05:27:40 AM »
I'm going to say this but I think we should take this month off.  If your school then projects and everything are becoming due and finals are a breath away, the Wii is here, end of year rush for business, and Christmas preparations.   Everyone is busy and I don't htink we'll be able to take it serious.  Plus the new site will have bugs to iron out I'm sure.
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