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Re: The PATHETIC state of the gaming 'media'
« Reply #25 on: October 19, 2008, 09:08:15 AM »
What exactly do you have a "lasting appeal" score for if it's just going to reflect the gameplay score?

I'm guessing it's the equivalent of the lastability score NWR has, essentially the longevity of the game + replay value and multiplayer value.
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« Reply #26 on: October 19, 2008, 03:28:47 PM »
What exactly do you have a "lasting appeal" score for if it's just going to reflect the gameplay score?

It's entirely possible for a game to be extremely fun yet also extremely short-lived.  I don't think it reflects gameplay so much as depends on it.

The issue here is whether it's better to consider potential lasting appeal (what y'all seem to be whining about) or effective lasting appeal (what IGN seems to be using).  Either way I don't see why it matters; I thought everyone here believed in valuing review content over scores for exactly this reason.
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Re: The PATHETIC state of the gaming 'media'
« Reply #27 on: November 07, 2008, 04:03:11 PM »
Alright, another IGN one.

They reviewed Pipe Mania, which I also just reviewed. I read over their review and they refer to it as a clone of Pipe Dream. Funny thing is Pipe Mania IS Pipe Dream, Pipe Dream was just a label applied by the distributor, LucasArts, when the game was ported from the Amiga to a variety of other platforms.

Furthermore, Pipe Dream/Pipe Mania is ACTUALLY INCLUDED in the game as an unlockable! What a disaster, if you are going to make a claim like that you should probably make sure you know what you're talking about...
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« Reply #28 on: November 07, 2008, 04:20:29 PM »
Alright, another IGN one.

They reviewed Pipe Mania, which I also just reviewed. I read over their review and they refer to it as a clone of Pipe Dream. Funny thing is Pipe Mania IS Pipe Dream, Pipe Dream was just a label applied by the distributor, LucasArts, when the game was ported from the Amiga to a variety of other platforms.

Furthermore, Pipe Dream/Pipe Mania is ACTUALLY INCLUDED in the game as an unlockable! What a disaster, if you are going to make a claim like that you should probably make sure you know what you're talking about...

I have no idea who that reviewer is, never read anything from him. Kind of funny though.
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« Reply #29 on: November 07, 2008, 05:31:24 PM »
Alright, another IGN one.

They reviewed Pipe Mania, which I also just reviewed. I read over their review and they refer to it as a clone of Pipe Dream. Funny thing is Pipe Mania IS Pipe Dream, Pipe Dream was just a label applied by the distributor, LucasArts, when the game was ported from the Amiga to a variety of other platforms.

Furthermore, Pipe Dream/Pipe Mania is ACTUALLY INCLUDED in the game as an unlockable! What a disaster, if you are going to make a claim like that you should probably make sure you know what you're talking about...

I have no idea who that reviewer is, never read anything from him. Kind of funny though.

Sam Bishop?  Never heard of him, must be a holiday intern.  Too bad for him, Rupert is gonna have his head on a platter for this one.
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Re: The PATHETIC state of the gaming 'media'
« Reply #30 on: November 08, 2008, 02:19:02 AM »
Rupert values accuracy?

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« Reply #31 on: November 08, 2008, 09:35:02 AM »
I like where this is heading.
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Re: The PATHETIC state of the gaming 'media'
« Reply #32 on: November 09, 2008, 10:23:15 PM »
Sam Bishop is most likely one of their freelance reviewers, and I've seen several of his reviews, so he's definitely not new.

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Re: The PATHETIC state of the gaming 'media'
« Reply #33 on: November 10, 2008, 08:51:35 PM »
http://Http://wii.ign.com/articles/928/928479p1.html
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This is a horrible review.
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« Reply #34 on: November 11, 2008, 01:01:18 AM »
http://Http://wii.ign.com/articles/928/928479p1.html
^IGN TOS:DotNW review.

This is a horrible review.

Maxi you should read his review of Rhapsody: A Musical Adventure on DS it's as equally laughable. Why would they have Daemon review and RPG if he clearly dislikes basic RPG conventions?!?!
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Re: The PATHETIC state of the gaming 'media'
« Reply #35 on: November 11, 2008, 01:11:14 AM »
Cuz they probably didn't get any perks from the publisher, so they're retaliating.
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« Reply #36 on: November 11, 2008, 01:53:11 AM »
Flames I agree with you. It is ridiculous what spouts out of  that reviews mouth. He was the same reviewer that did Helix and he was so fucking self conscience about looking like a fool.Who the hell cares!
This review he was complaining about inane and irrelevant things.
Rapsody was the same story as the Tales review.

God I despise IGN reviewers now.
Pro you are probably right.

I have to go to bed now so I can get this horrible review out of my head.
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« Reply #37 on: November 11, 2008, 02:44:51 AM »
I saw a comment on another of his reviews, "does that guy always write only two paragraphs?"

I guess overall he's incompetent. Maybe it's time for a mail campaign to get him fired?

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« Reply #38 on: November 11, 2008, 04:46:08 AM »
I'm pretty sure Daemon doesn't want to be on the IGN Nintendo channel.

He's probably taking that anger out on the games he reviews.
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« Reply #39 on: November 11, 2008, 04:50:46 AM »
Yeah, Nintendo sucks, makes no hardcore games, let's pan the RPGs on their platform!

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« Reply #40 on: November 11, 2008, 04:59:16 AM »
That is a problem when the reviewer takes his vendetta with the console it never ends good for the consumer.That person is to judge the game on its own merits.Not comparing it to other games or having a vendetta!!!
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« Reply #41 on: November 11, 2008, 06:57:57 AM »
He was the same reviewer that did Helix and he was so fuckingself conscience about looking like a fool.

Holy crap, Maxi swore. I haven't seen Maxi swear before.
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« Reply #42 on: November 11, 2008, 08:00:07 AM »
Yeah I did.Reviews like this get me mad. From previous reviews from this "reviewer" I have had enough. You know you just got to let it out.

Don't expect this to be a regular occurrence.
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« Reply #43 on: November 11, 2008, 08:15:44 AM »
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« Reply #44 on: November 11, 2008, 08:33:48 AM »
Yeah IGN is off my list of review sites.I try to give sites 3 chances before I toss them aside with reckless abandon.The three reviews were Helix,Wii Music, and Finally TOS:DotNW. I am still trying to decide on another site other than NWR.There was another site that I went to for the reviews but most of the staff left. And the reviews aren't popping up in a timely fashion.
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« Reply #45 on: November 11, 2008, 08:34:39 AM »
Flames I agree with you. It is ridiculous what spouts out of  that reviews mouth. He was the same reviewer that did Helix and he was so fucking self conscience about looking like a fool.Who the hell cares!
This review he was complaining about inane and irrelevant things.
Rapsody was the same story as the Tales review.

God I despise IGN reviewers now.
Pro you are probably right.

I have to go to bed now so I can get this horrible review out of my head.

My main problem with IGN reviews as a whole is that usually they can't come up with valid criticisms or just ends up looking pathetic and full of angst and outright bitching about how this game sucks without no reason.

Yeah IGN is off my list of review sites.I try to give sites 3 chances before I toss them aside with reckless abandon.The three reviews were Helix,Wii Music, and Finally TOS:DotNW. I am still trying to decide on another site other than NWR.There was another site that I went to for the reviews but most of the staff left. And the reviews aren't popping up in a timely fashion.

I usually tend to go to the smaller sites for reviews since they are truthful and more honest, I usually like destructoid (although sometimes their ego gets to them and trash the game IGN style) and Chris Kholer's Game life blog.  Game trailers is also pretty good with their reviews in general and a old time NWR staffer is on there (Bloodworth).
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« Reply #46 on: November 11, 2008, 08:43:56 AM »
Yeah you convaide what I was feeling in a more calm manner.

Well I don't really care what IGN thinks anymore. I am going down to Target and get this game later today.
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« Reply #47 on: November 12, 2008, 06:36:56 PM »
IGN gets a bad rap. Yes they're pretty awful at everything they do but I find them to be the least pretentious of all the big time gaming sites and mags out there. There's no journalistic integrity going on there. 1up thinks so highly of themselves like they're God's personal gift to games and they're the same as everyone else. Gamespot has critical issues in how it reviews their games. IGN just doesn't care. They're dominant in their market for crazy obvious reasons and their fans are insane. It's pretty astounding the culture they've built up there. 

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« Reply #48 on: November 12, 2008, 07:29:21 PM »
IGN gets a bad rap. Yes they're pretty awful at everything they do but I find them to be the least pretentious of all the big time gaming sites and mags out there. 

I mostly agree, I'd have to say while they are certainly the least pretentious, they're actually better at what the do then what they credit for.  Plus they produce the Game Scoop Podcast which is easily the best general gaming podcast in existence.
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« Reply #49 on: November 12, 2008, 10:28:55 PM »
Flames the site I was talking about was thewiire.com.

Back before the Wii came out and it was still called Revolution. I looked for Wii news sites.Back in the GC days I did this as well.I found this excellent site.

Yeah I looked at GT before this IGN mess. I like how they do their reviews.
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