Topic: Rate the last movie you've seen

[Evan_B]

But hey, guys, that casino subplot... amirite?

[ThePerm]

But hey, guys, that casino subplot... amirite?

That could have been good, but it wasn't. I liked a lot of the ideas it had, it just wasn't well executed.

Also, just read an interview. Rian Johnson wrote his script while The Force Awakens was shooting. Which means he had his layout before the movie was complete.  Which means, he hadn't watched the movie. That helps to explain the big disconnect. In some ways that makes his work more pure, but as a trilogy piece, it is glaring.

I look forward to Solo as it is written by Lawrence Kasdan. Though, I imagine no matter how good it is it will be hated by most everyone.

[BlackNMild2k1]

I hear there is a petition or two going around to make The Last Jedi NON-CANNON

that seems reasonable right?
https://geektyrant.com/news/there-is-a-petition-for-disney-to-remove-star-wars-the-last-jedi-from-the-official-canon

[oohhboy]

But hey, guys, that casino subplot... amirite?

That could have been good, but it wasn't. I liked a lot of the ideas it had, it just wasn't well executed.

Also, just read an interview. Rian Johnson wrote his script while The Force Awakens was shooting. Which means he had his layout before the movie was complete.  Which means, he hadn't watched the movie. That helps to explain the big disconnect. In some ways that makes his work more pure, but as a trilogy piece, it is glaring.

I look forward to Solo as it is written by Lawrence Kasdan. Though, I imagine no matter how good it is it will be hated by most everyone.

Glaring is the under-statement. That is outright asinine.

I had a look at Kasdan's past work and he hasn't made anything good since 1996. The odds are heavily against it being even mediocre.

I hear there is a petition or two going around to make The Last Jedi NON-CANNON

that seems reasonable right?

Anything JJ touched should be shot out of a cannon into his face.

[Stratos]

In my head-canon, the Official Star Wars Canon closed with the purchase of Lucasfilm from Disney.

Also no one ever answered... There was a new actress for Leah, right?

No, she had finished filming all of her scenes so it is all Carrie Fisher, though I heard that they had to do a bit of digital magic to complete a few of her lines that needed additional work.


There are four options for what to do with Leia post-Last Jedi:


1) Write her out (death) off-screen - awful option. It will be a very unfitting end to the character and a disservice to Fisher.


2) Write her out (non-death) via plot - this would be even worse that killing her off screen. Same logic as above and compounds the problem by asking what to do post-Episode 9. Abandon the character and leave it up to the viewers? Worry about recasts/conclusions later? Just forget about her? Awful.


3) Use digital magic to recreate her akin to Rogue One - not awful, but judging from the response from R1 viewers the tech just isn't quite there, though I could see it used sparingly to assist the one true option.


4) Freaking recast the character. Truly, this is the best option and it is surprising no one will seriously consider this yet. Recasts happen all the time, especially in series that carry on for over four decades. Find someone similar, apply some digital magic as necessary, and roll with it. Heck, age up Fisher's daughter and let her play the role.


Truthfully, they missed a serious opportunity to give her a glorious end, having her be the person on the Raddus crashing into the First Order Fleet, they could have even given her a touching scene similar to Rey/Kylo where she reaches out to Luke for a final goodbye, perhaps being the catalyst for Luke to reach out and help. But that role should have been for Akbar, not a new character that we hardly had the time to know, especially when she was such a poor leader/character in the first place.

[ThePerm]

They recast Dumbledore and the world moved on.

They could have killed her off with the giant canon thing that seemed to do nothing except almost kill Finn

[Stratos]

They recast Dumbledore and the world moved on.

They could have killed her off with the giant canon thing that seemed to do nothing except almost kill Finn

Exactly, maybe the creators should get off of their high-horse message of the film and "let go of the past".


Some people are saying that the arguments over the "Akbar event" are just overblown nerds whining, but I think it is indicative of the larger issue that is at hand; Disney/Lucasfilm is snubbing long-time fans. So what if the majority of his following was born out of memes and de-canonized material? He had become an icon of the series and people cared about him. Dismissing him was yet another action that dismisses the older fan base. Despite all of the tea-table upending plot twists in TLJ, Star Wars is becoming stale. A film every year will burn people out of the series and lead to diminished returns. Really hoping they dial everything back a notch going forward.

[nickmitch]

I think the ideal thing is to kill her off-screen but do a nice funeral scene/tribute type thing.  Recasting seems heartless.  People associate the character with the actor way too much.  Dumbledore recasts had the advantage of being a person who existed in print and not having been around for decades.  There's no option with Leia that won't piss of a bunch of nerds, but that's life.  Nerd rage powers the internet.

[ShyGuy]

I like to think they all lived Happily Ever after at the end of Return of the Jedi.

...Not die old and bitter as they fail.

[ThePerm]

I like to think they all lived Happily Ever after at the end of Return of the Jedi.

...Not die old and bitter as they fail.

right?

[lolmonade]

Just saw the new Star Wars - it's worlds better than The Force Awakens.  Still prefer Rogue One over the other new generation Star Wars Movies.

[oohhboy]

Same, it helps that R1 has a coherent plot even if the first 2/3 were a let down and the characters a bit flat.

I don't know why a lot of people complain about having tie fighters and star destroyers and AT-AT precursor as it is well within that era for them to show up. TFA doesn't have that excuse. They strangely also bitch alot about the end Vader scene when we finally see Vader be that holy **** badass without current dance fu bs.

When you point out of course it looks like OG Star Wars because it's the same era they say it's fan service the movie and should have been more creative or some **** like that. Absurd claim of course and it's great the movie understands how it is restricted by the universe so it doesn't get ridiculous.

There are a couple of examples of excess fan service like blue milk, AT-AT and Vader's lava planet since I don't know why you would setup a home where you got fucked up at.

It has a fair share of problems but look, feel, technical skills and action isn't one of them. It has some very beautiful vistas of horror and the Star Destroyers looking like plastic is a joy which I wished they carried that to the other ship a little.

[ThePerm]

Rey learned how to speak kyssik in 4hours

[nickmitch]

A hopefully less polarizing movie, I saw Downsizing recently.

I thought the premise seemed really cool, but was curious as to what the plot would be like.  Turns out I should've been more skeptical as the premise is reduced to mostly sightgags.  Admittedly, they're kinda fun, but I would've liked to see more of them as they are very few in number once the movie gets into the tiny bits.  As far as plot, this is a minor spoiler, but it's essentially a "white guy deals with life post-divorce" movie.  That's the movie, and it's not a particularly good one.  Matt Damon just kind of does a few things.  The end of the movie ties back to the premise but in a way that ultimately feels silly.  The movie flirted with making a larger point about class and race, which could've been made, but it was avoided.  Also, there's a surprising amount of penis in one section of the movie.  It's only that one part though.

5/10

[Stratos]

Same, it helps that R1 has a coherent plot even if the first 2/3 were a let down and the characters a bit flat.

I don't know why a lot of people complain about having tie fighters and star destroyers and AT-AT precursor as it is well within that era for them to show up. TFA doesn't have that excuse. They strangely also bitch alot about the end Vader scene when we finally see Vader be that holy **** badass without current dance fu bs.

When you point out of course it looks like OG Star Wars because it's the same era they say it's fan service the movie and should have been more creative or some **** like that. Absurd claim of course and it's great the movie understands how it is restricted by the universe so it doesn't get ridiculous.

There are a couple of examples of excess fan service like blue milk, AT-AT and Vader's lava planet since I don't know why you would setup a home where you got fucked up at.

It has a fair share of problems but look, feel, technical skills and action isn't one of them. It has some very beautiful vistas of horror and the Star Destroyers looking like plastic is a joy which I wished they carried that to the other ship a little.

I greatly appreciated R1. sure, it had a few weak points, but every SW film has one or two. Really, I'm only put out by how Saw Garrera wasn't more involved in the film. But that's just me being a Clone Wars fan and wishing for more tie-ins between them and the movies.


Also, either they really went all out on the camera work for the dog fights, or they found some old footage from A New Hope and touched it up. I swear that was the same actor at the same age playing Gold Leader. Even felt like they were "older grain" film shots.

[oohhboy]

It was old unused footage and I had a grin wide enough to go right around my head.

[Stratos]

That makes me even happier knowing they used old footage. Got a similar feeling in Last Jedi when R2 played the old "Help Me Obi-wan" message.

[Evan_B]

You know, I sat down and had a long talk about this Star War thing with a friend, and I think I’ve sort of pinpointed the problem with the film, in my eyes, which is that it ultimately doesn’t function well as either a stand-alone movie or a part of a trilogy. It’s obsessed with filling in the details of what has occurred over the past thirty years of no Star Wars, but also convinced that it has to be contrary to almost everything established in the previous film. It also happens RIGHT after the events of The Force Awakens within what could be considered a thirty-six hour period, which means the characters have had little to no time to grow over the course of the narrative, but also that the plot has had a markedly negative impact on this fact because of it’s supposed “urgency.” It also means that, at its core, the plot line of this new trilogy is even more absurd, in retrospect, as all of these events that occur in these first two films- the DESTRUCTION of the REPUBLIC and a COMPLETE RESCAFFOLDING of both the Resistance and the First Order- have taken place over the course of two or three weeks. Like, what?

Again, great popcorn flick, but utterly falls apart as soon as you give it serious reflection. Which, hey, if it’s nothing more than a popcorn flick, maybe it shouldn’t be reflected upon seriously, but there are other smarter action blockbusters out there that actually hold up in comparison.

[oohhboy]

For me the new trilogy fell apart at the opening scroll in TFA. It instantly set off the nonsense alarm. While I was expecting nonsense as it is JJ we are talking about, I didn't expect it to break suspension of disbelief in the first 10 seconds. Once that happened I knew the entire series was doomed as the story collapses. It's so bad that I was able to pick apart the movie in real time. It is such a poorly made film but gets a pass because STAR WARS.

The same thing happened to nu Star Trek. I really don't understand why anybody would want JJ to helm their movie let alone have legions of nerds begging JJ to do it because nu Trek was really a Star Wars movie or some ****.

It doesn't help that TFA did its best to assassinate the OG trilogy because soft reboot??? Why??

E9 is going to be such a farce that the prequels are going to looked upon fondly if you're not already there. Its going to introduce a dozen threads and none of them are going to get tied up or have a reasonable outcome. Its going to be another bag of flaming dog **** someone has to clean up come episode 10 if it somehow survives.

Just because a movie is a "popcorn flick" doesn't give it the excuse to be bad, its such a cop out.

[King of Twitch]

TLJ 8 spoilers maybe?
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For me the new trilogy fell apart at the opening scroll in TFA. It instantly set off the nonsense alarm.

Care to share more on this? Bad guys take over without LS, seemed pretty straightforward, especially in light of how inept the Resistance is in Ep 8.

the DESTRUCTION of the REPUBLIC and a COMPLETE RESCAFFOLDING of both the Resistance and the First Order- have taken place over the course of two or three weeks. Like, what?

Ep 7 crawl says the FO arose in the absence of LS.

I saw 8 a second time, and compared to my last post, I'm more annoyed at:
-the "Noooooo" when Kylo realizes it's a Holo-Luke. It's not funny anymore, if it ever was.
-the first star wars flashback and story backtrack in history. lame.
-I understand Luke doesn't want to train more people and risk these powers going to the service of evil, but doesn't he care about correcting his mistake or, at the very least, saving the lives of his friends and family?

-the new trilogy recycles the OT. 2 years and 2 weeks ago, I hoped "The Force Awakens" meant the force would awaken in random people throughout the galaxy, that it would cause chaos and double-crossing as families and friends are divided on how to respond to it, and the return of LS to restore order and education about the power and responsibilities of the force. My (unearned) optimism and good will (and wild imagination) feels a little cheated.

[BlackNMild2k1]

Just went and saw Jumanji.

It was very entertaining, but the entertainment started before the movie....
some 30something couple were plainly visible fucking in the front section. I could see her whole thigh and leg as she's bouncing up and down on the dude's lap.... praying that my daughter and her friends next to her never actually notice whats going on.

Luckily another concerned parent had already alerted theater staff, who promptly confronted the couple, with flashlights. The female had to stand up and pull her pants back on, trying to grip her blanket so as to not be exposed to everyone, now that the flashlights were on her.... little did she know, we could already see her before they brought the flashlights in.

but anyway.... back to the movie.

This is a direct sequel to the original Jumanji movie, which I remember hearing wasn't the case...
Everyone was pretty entertaining in this, and a majority of the humor was funny. Definitely a teen comedy, so some humor not appropriate for little children... luckily some of it will just go over their head. Videogame aspects were handled well, and overall a good time at the movies. Don't think too hard, just enjoy your popcorn and be in a mood to enjoy what you're watching. You'll like it.

[oohhboy]

For me the new trilogy fell apart at the opening scroll in TFA. It instantly set off the nonsense alarm.

Care to share more on this? Bad guys take over without LS, seemed pretty straightforward, especially in light of how inept the Resistance is in Ep 8.

It has nothing to do with the force or light/dark side. The opening scroll is immensely important for Star Wars as it is a very quick and efficient way to establish the universe.

1/3 of TFA scroll mystery box rubbish that doesn't flow into the next paragraph with information we don't need to know or mattered to the movie. Absurd notion that one person's absence leads to FO is never touched upon.

2/3. Another mystery box, self-contradicting with RESISTANCE clearly meant to reset everything to retell ANH. Also tells you nothing of importance or why, how, what the state of the galaxy is. New republic? Whats that?

3/3 Finally gets going. Given how much it is screaming about Luke you would think they are going on an original adventure to find Luke not to blow up yet another death star.

TFA failed to establish the current state of the universe while assassinating the past and only purpose was to drop names. You can't have your audience question the premise of your movie from the get go as it leads to story collapse as you increasingly take note of all the problems and the absurdness.

Go and read the OT scrolls. It's concise, flows from one paragraph to another, doesn't falsely advertise what the objective of the movie is and sets everything up.

[nickmitch]

Just went and saw Jumanji.

It was very entertaining, but the entertainment started before the movie....
some 30something couple were plainly visible fucking in the front section. I could see her whole thigh and leg as she's bouncing up and down on the dude's lap.... praying that my daughter and her friends next to her never actually notice whats going on.

Luckily another concerned parent had already alerted theater staff, who promptly confronted the couple, with flashlights. The female had to stand up and pull her pants back on, trying to grip her blanket so as to not be exposed to everyone, now that the flashlights were on her.... little did she know, we could already see her before they brought the flashlights in.

but anyway.... back to the movie.

This is a direct sequel to the original Jumanji movie, which I remember hearing wasn't the case...
Everyone was pretty entertaining in this, and a majority of the humor was funny. Definitely a teen comedy, so some humor not appropriate for little children... luckily some of it will just go over their head. Videogame aspects were handled well, and overall a good time at the movies. Don't think too hard, just enjoy your popcorn and be in a mood to enjoy what you're watching. You'll like it.

That's pretty disgusting. And why would someone do that in the front section?  And why don't people think they'll get caught? Was the theatre not crowded?

[Evan_B]

the DESTRUCTION of the REPUBLIC and a COMPLETE RESCAFFOLDING of both the Resistance and the First Order- have taken place over the course of two or three weeks. Like, what?

Ep 7 crawl says the FO arose in the absence of LS.

I’m not arguing that point. What I’m saying is, within the one frame of the movies, the First Order has decimated the New Republic and also lost their Supreme Leader (which is just an absurd title, by the by), who presumably helped this organization rise and put plans into effect, within the span of two weeks.

[BranDonk Kong]

Man, this movie where people can move things with their minds is so unrealistic!