Hmmm, I'm not 100% happy with this list but it's pretty close. There's a bunch of games that are very close to making the list. By the way, I'm really not much of a Smash Bros fan, and I like the Metroid Prime games but not enough to put them on the list.
Title: Re: Top 10 Nintendo published games (2000 - 2009)
Post by: Khushrenada on December 05, 2016, 03:00:55 PM
I like this idea. However, I think it belongs in the Console Section since that is more Nintendo-centric than General Gaming so I'm moving it there. I need to think about this for a moment and then make my own list.
Title: Re: Top 10 Nintendo published games (2000 - 2009)
Post by: supermario2k on December 05, 2016, 03:07:13 PM
Well fine, go ahead and move it while I am in the middle of replying.
Title: Re: Top 10 Nintendo published games (2000 - 2009)
Post by: supermario2k on December 05, 2016, 03:17:07 PM
I will give this a try but I am certain you will not like my list.
If the rules are Nintendo published but does not mean created by Nintendo that is a little loose for my liking but fair enough. If it can be anything by Nintendo and not exclusive to a console or a handheld meaning you can mix and match that complicates things. That is why these types of lists drive me crazy. Or I was crazy to begin with and these lists fit right into my world.
Or I could just make a damn list, how about that.
Super Mario 64 DS
Mario Party 4
Super Smash Bros. Melee
Star Fox Adventures
Legend of Zelda Collector's Edition
New Super Mario Bros.
Metroid Prime
Tetris DS
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles
Super Paper Mario
Ranked in order of best at the top.
Title: Re: Top 10 Nintendo published games (2000 - 2009)
Post by: Miyamoto on December 05, 2016, 03:30:18 PM
I don't thnk this game is remembered all that well, but I have very fond memories of playing it. I think it's one of the best looking games of the generation. It really says something about Nintendo's calibre that we can both make a top ten list and have not a single game in common.
Title: Re: Top 10 Nintendo published games (2000 - 2009)
Post by: NWR_insanolord on December 05, 2016, 03:40:39 PM
1. Super Mario Galaxy 2. Metroid Zero Mission 3. Pikmin 2 4. Animal Crossing 5. Metroid Fusion 6. Advance Wars 2: Black Hole Rising 7. Mario Kart DS 8. Metroid Prime 9. The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker 10. Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door
Title: Re: Top 10 Nintendo published games (2000 - 2009)
Post by: supermario2k on December 05, 2016, 03:59:35 PM
I don't this this game is remembered all that well, but I have very fond memories of playing it. I think it's one of the best looking games of the generation. It really says something about Nintendo's calibre that we can both make a top ten list and have not a single game in common.
I am pretty sure we have disagreed over this before but I honestly think this game is only hated because Rare left Nintendo. And yes, it is a testament how large their portfolio is like you said we both made top 10 lists and not a single game was the same.
To be fair, I am not a Nintendo only fan so my tastes are vastly larger than just what appears on their machines.
Title: Re: Top 10 Nintendo published games (2000 - 2009)
Post by: Miyamoto on December 05, 2016, 04:09:40 PM
don't get me wrong, I think it's a great game too, it's just that when it comes up in podcasts and such it usually fails to get the praise it deserves.
Title: Re: Top 10 Nintendo published games (2000 - 2009)
Post by: supermario2k on December 05, 2016, 04:13:17 PM
don't get me wrong, I think it's a great game too, it's just that when it comes up in podcasts and such it usually fails to get the praise it deserves.
oh I agree. I just was never emotionally attached to Rare so for me I enjoyed the game for what it was, and not being a fan of the mainline Star Fox series helped me fall in love with it, also it was a much better Zelda than that awful Peter Pan and the Pirates knock off.
Title: Re: Top 10 Nintendo published games (2000 - 2009)
Post by: Order.RSS on December 05, 2016, 05:18:11 PM
All right I'll play. I hope all of these were Ninty published, think so anyway. Also kinda annoying 2010 isn't allowed haha, Sin & Punishment Star Successor would've been a high contender! There's a lot of obvious greatest hits missing, like Mario Galaxy and Wind Waker but to my eternal shame I've not played enough of those to really speak on them.
1. Metroid Prime - played this years after release after remembering all the hype it got in magazines and thinking it could never live up to the 10/10 scores I was seeing. While I don't think it's perfect (that ending fetchquest...), it came very, very close. 2. Super Smash Bros. Melee - yeah its sequel had a better roster, but this one still gets pulled out from time to time. The leap from 64 to Melee is spectacular too. 3. F-Zero GX - I'm absolutely awful at this but it really, really hooked me for a while. If you could somehow capture its essence in pill format, rave culture would be revived overnight. *nyeeeeowwww* 4. Pokémon Gold/Silver - the Western releases were in 2000 & 2001 right, so I'm counting this. Improved on the original so much, people are praising the convenience improvements in Sun/Moon right now - Gold/Silver did a similar thing back then. And it was in colour! Had two main quests! A great sequel. 5. Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance - this felt very daunting initially. So many numbers & missions, anime tropes that were unfamiliar to me, it demanded slow methodical gameplay which I wasn't used to... But some of the characters really grew on me, I even read all those static dialogues it would let me. I messed up early on and tore a family of brothers apart. It tackled potent issues like racism head-on, a type of social commentary I often found lacking in games back then (also why I love Beyond Good & Evil so much). 6. Star Fox Adventures - yeah it's objectively not very good. It kinda falls apart halfway through and has some incredibly frustrating parts, a crap ending and some suuuuper cringey cutscenes. But that hub-world is gorgeous, the music is so atmospheric, I like the brief Arwing sections, the social order of the dinosaurs... But yeah. Rose tinted glasses all the way. 7. Wii Sports - feels kinda weird including this maybe, but EVERYONE wanted to play Wii tennis or boxing with you during this moment in time. Wii felt like it would revolutionize gaming, and I really wanted to buy into the motion illusion. It was so accessible, brought people together. For social impact alone this stands out. 8. Doshin The Giant - anyone remember this? The GameCube port of a 64DD game. My gaming has always been pretty limited to mostly Nintendo, but I did see god-sims like Black & White on PC at friends. To have something like that on console was pretty cool. I don't know if this would really hold up nowadays, it was pretty obtuse to be honest. But also very quirky and unlike anything else on the market. 9. Mario Power Tennis - sure, it's just tennis. But with singles, doubles, multiplayer, special moves, quite a big roster, a hilarious opening FMV, weird challenges and a few single player modes this was really cool. Secretly more fun than multiplayer staples like Mario Party. 10. Wave Race: Blue Storm - this GameCube launch title's controls were a little less intuitive than its predecessor's, but it was still a good time. The wave physics and just general look of the water really impressed me back then. Years later I read in a magazine how to unlock a "sarcastic announcer" who mocks your skills during the race. It feels like those types of dumb cheats have been less prevalent in recent years.
Boom! Maybe if I thought longer about it things like Eternal Darkness or DK Jungle Beat would push a few ones off the list but eh. Also makes me realise how little things I played on Wii... DKC:R was 2010 so that isn't eligible sadly.
Title: Re: Top 10 Nintendo published games (2000 - 2009)
Post by: supermario2k on December 05, 2016, 05:29:18 PM
I almost put Wii sports on my list, but if you look at my gaming history as a whole, 2009 is the year I lost interest in Nintendo for a very long time so to me most of my fond memories are before that machine came into existence. I think that is why Super Paper Mario made the cut, it started out as a Game Cube game and if it had stayed there I would easily bump it up 2 notches as I just hate the stripped down Wiimote controls and day dream what it would have been like on the Game Cube with a proper controller. I do that with a lot of Wii games hence why I despise the Wii more often than not. I loved the Game Cube controller, and that has nothing to do with Smash, I am NOT competitive at all, in fact I suck at Smash. And I played it strictly as a single player game and still loved it. I just loved the nostalgia, it had all those trophies and levels from every franchise that was in the game it was a much better Mario game at times than Sunshine, at times. I would give Sunshine a lot more love if the cutscenes were skipable and if it didn't take so long to get to the good levels.
Title: Re: Top 10 Nintendo published games (2000 - 2009)
Post by: Khushrenada on December 05, 2016, 06:02:40 PM
For easy reference for users, here's a list of Nintendo published games over that time. Not every single thing is going to be here. There's no Satelliteview or 64DD. It's possible a title or two has been missed since this is mainly a copy and paste affair. There are some that surprise me like "Cruis'n Exotica" and there maybe a title error or two since I have not fact checked this list. The purpose is to just cover the vast majority of titles released in this period.
Arcade
◾F-Zero AX - 2003 ◾Super Mario Fushigi no Korokoro Party - 2004 ◾Mario Kart Arcade GP - 2005 ◾Donkey Kong: Jungle Fever - 2005 ◾Mario Kart Arcade GP 2 - 2006 ◾Donkey Kong: Banana Kingdom - 2006 ◾Pokémon Battrio - 2007 ◾Rhythm Tengoku - 2007
Nintendo 64
◾Banjo-Tooie - 2000 ◾Cruis'n Exotica - 2000 ◾Excitebike 64 - 2000 ◾Hey You, Pikachu! - 2000 ◾Kirby 64: The Crystal Shards - 2000 ◾The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask - 2000 ◾Mario Party 2 - 2000 ◾Mario Tennis - 2000 ◾Mickey's Speedway USA - 2000 ◾Perfect Dark - 2000 ◾Pokémon Puzzle League - 2000 ◾Pokémon Stadium - 2000 ◾Ridge Racer 64 - 2000 ◾Starcraft 64 - 2000 ◾Sin and Punishment: Successor of the Earth - 2000 ◾Itoi Shigesato no Bass Tsuri No. 1 - 2000 ◾Custom Robo V2 - 2000 ◾Dr. Mario 64 - 2001 ◾Mario Party 3 - 2001 ◾Paper Mario - 2001 ◾Pokémon Stadium 2 - 2001 ◾Animal Forest - 2001
GameCube
◾Luigi's Mansion - 2001 ◾Wave Race: Blue Storm - 2001 ◾Super Smash Bros. Melee - 2001 ◾Pikmin - 2001 ◾Animal Crossing - 2002 ◾Disney's Magical Mirror Starring Mickey Mouse - 2002 ◾Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem - 2002 ◾Mario Party 4 - 2002 ◾Metroid Prime - 2002 ◾NBA Courtside 2002 - 2002 ◾Star Fox Adventures - 2002 ◾Super Mario Sunshine - 2002 ◾Cubivore: Survival of the Fittest - 2002 ◾Doshin the Giant - 2002 ◾1080° Avalanche - 2003 ◾F-Zero GX - 2003 ◾Kirby Air Ride - 2003 ◾The Legend of Zelda Collector's Edition - 2003 ◾The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time Master Quest - 2003 ◾The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker - 2003 ◾Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour - 2003 ◾Mario Kart: Double Dash‼ - 2003 ◾Mario Party 5 - 2003 ◾Pokémon Channel - 2003 ◾Wario World - 2003 ◾GiFTPiA - 2003 ◾Nintendo Puzzle Collection - 2003 ◾Custom Robo - 2004 ◾Donkey Konga - 2004 ◾Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes - 2004 ◾The Legend of Zelda: Four Swords Adventure - 2004 ◾Mario Party 6 - 2004 ◾Mario Power Tennis - 2004 ◾Metroid Prime 2: Echoes - 2004 ◾Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door - 2004 ◾Pikmin 2 - 2004 ◾Pokémon Box: Ruby and Sapphire - 2004 ◾Pokémon Colosseum - 2004 ◾WarioWare, Inc.: Mega Party Game$ - 2004 ◾Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles - 2004 ◾Kururin Squash! - 2004 ◾Battalion Wars - 2005 ◾Dance Dance Revolution: Mario Mix - 2005 ◾Donkey Konga 2 - 2005 ◾Donkey Kong Jungle Beat - 2005 ◾Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance - 2005 ◾Geist - 2005 ◾Mario Party 7 - 2005 ◾Mario Superstar Baseball - 2005 ◾Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness - 2005 ◾Star Fox: Assault - 2005 ◾Super Mario Strikers - 2005 ◾Densetsu no Quiz Ou Ketteisen - 2005 ◾Donkey Konga 3 - 2005 ◾Chibi-Robo! - 2006 ◾The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess - 2006 ◾Odama - 2006
Wii
◾Wii Sports - 2006 ◾Excite Truck - 2006 ◾The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess - 2006 ◾Wii Play - 2006 ◾WarioWare: Smooth Moves - 2007 ◾Eyeshield 21: Field Saikyō no Senshi - 2007 ◾Super Paper Mario - 2007 ◾Mario Party 8 - 2007 ◾Big Brain Academy: Wii Degree - 2007 ◾Pokémon Battle Revolution - 2007 ◾Mario Strikers Charged - 2007 ◾Metroid Prime 3: Corruption - 2007 ◾Donkey Kong Barrel Blast - 2007 ◾Battalion Wars 2 - 2007 ◾Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn - 2007 ◾Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games - 2007 ◾Super Mario Galaxy - 2007 ◾Link's Crossbow Training - 2007 ◾Wii Chess - 2008 ◾Endless Ocean - 2008 ◾Super Smash Bros. Brawl - 2008 ◾Minna no Joushiki Ryoku TV - 2008 ◾Mario Kart Wii - 2008 ◾Wii Fit - 2008 ◾Mario Super Sluggers - 2008 ◾Wario Land: Shake It! - 2008 ◾Fatal Frame IV - 2008 ◾Captain Rainbow - 2008 ◾Wii Music - 2008 ◾Animal Crossing: City Folk - 2008 ◾Disaster: Day of Crisis - 2008 ◾Pikmin - 2008 (New Play Control!) ◾Donkey Kong: Jungle Beat - 2008 (New Play Control!) ◾Wii Sports Resort - 2009 ◾Punch-Out!! - 2009 ◾Excitebots: Trick Racing - 2009 ◾Sin & Punishment: Star Successor- 2009 ◾Another Code: R - A Journey Into Lost Memories - 2009 ◾FlingSmash - 2009 ◾Takt of Magic - 2009 ◾Endless Ocean: Blue World - 2009 ◾Minna ga Shuyaku no NHK Kouhaku Quiz Kassen - 2009 ◾Mario Power Tennis - 2009 (New Play Control!) ◾Pikmin 2 - 2009 (New Play Control!) ◾Metroid Prime - 2009 (New Play Control!) ◾Metroid Prime 2: Echoes - 2009 (New Play Control!) ◾Metroid Prime Trilogy - 2009 ◾Chibi-Robo - 2009 (New Play Control!) ◾New Super Mario Bros. Wii - 2009 ◾Wii Fit Plus - 2009 ◾Harvest Moon: Tree of Tranquility - 2009 (published by Nintendo in Australia only) ◾PokéPark Wii: Pikachu's Adventure - 2009
WiiWare
◾Dr. Mario Online RX - 2008 ◾My Pokémon Ranch - 2008 ◾Magnetica Twist - 2008 ◾Maboshi's Arcade - 2008 ◾World Chess - 2008 ◾Art Style: ORBIENT - 2008 ◾Art Style: CUBELLO - 2008 ◾Art Style: ROTOHEX - 2008 ◾Yakuman Wii: Ide Yosuke no Kenkou Mahjong - 2008 ◾Lonpos - 2008 ◾Jungle Speed - 2009 ◾Bonsai Barber - 2009 ◾World of Goo - 2009 (published by Nintendo in Japan only) ◾Rock 'n' Roll Climber - 2009 ◾PictureBook Games: Pop-Up Pursuit - 2009 ◾You, Me and the Cubes - 2009 ◾Doc Louis's Punch-Out!! - 2009 (Club Nintendo) ◾Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Keep Going! Blazing Adventure Squad - 2009 ◾Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Let's Go! Stormy Adventure Squad - 2009 ◾Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Go for It! Light Adventure Squad - 2009 ◾Eco Shooter: Planet 530 - 2009 ◾Excitebike: World Rally - 2009 ◾Grill-Off with Ultra Hand! - 2009 (Club Nintendo) ◾Pokémon Rumble - 2009
GameBoy Color
◾Donkey Kong GB: Dinky Kong & Dixie Kong - 2000 ◾Trade & Battle: Card Hero - 2000 ◾Super Mario Bros. Deluxe - 2000 ◾Wario Land 3 - 2000 ◾Crystalis - 2000 ◾Warlocked - 2000 ◾Balloon Fight GB - 2000 ◾Kirby Tilt 'n' Tumble - 2000 ◾Perfect Dark - 2000 ◾Tottoko Hamtaro: Tomodachi Daisaku Ikusa Dechu - 2000 ◾Disney's The Little Mermaid II: Pinball Frenzy - 2000 ◾Pokémon Pinball - 2000 ◾Kaijin Zona - 2000 ◾Donkey Kong Country - 2000 ◾Karkurenbo Battle Monster Tactics - 2000 ◾Pokémon Trading Card Game - 2000 ◾Mario Tennis - 2001 ◾The Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Ages - 2001 ◾The Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Seasons - 2001 ◾Pocket Soccer - 2001 ◾Mickey's Speedway USA - 2001 ◾Pokémon Card GB2: Team Great Rocket is Here! - 2001 ◾Alice in Wonderland - 2001 ◾Mobile Golf - 2001 ◾Pokémon Puzzle Challenge - 2001 ◾Pokémon Crystal - 2001 ◾Hamtaro: Ham-Hams Unite! - 2001
GameBoy Advance
◾Advance Wars - 2001 ◾F-Zero: Maximum Velocity - 2001 ◾Napoleon - 2001 ◾Golden Sun - 2001 ◾Mario Kart: Super Circuit - 2001 ◾Super Mario Advance - 2001 ◾Wario Land 4 - 2001 ◾Kuru Kuru Kururin - 2001 ◾Magical Vacation - 2001 ◾Kururin Paradise - 2002 ◾Disney's Magical Quest Starring Mickey & Minnie - 2002 ◾Game & Watch Gallery 4 - 2002 ◾Kirby: Nightmare in Dream Land - 2002 ◾The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past - 2002 ◾Metroid Fusion - 2002 ◾Super Mario World: Super Mario Advance 2 - 2002 ◾Yoshi's Island: Super Mario Advance 3 - 2002 ◾Densetsu no Starfy - 2002 ◾Custom Robo GX - 2002 ◾Fire Emblem: Fuuin no Tsurugi - 2002 ◾Sakura Momoko no Ukiuki Carnival - 2002 ◾Koro Koro Puzzle Happy Panechu! - 2002 ◾Domo-Kun no Fushigi Terebi - 2002 ◾Advance Wars 2: Black Hole Rising - 2003 ◾Donkey Kong Country - 2003 ◾Final Fantasy Tactics Advance - 2003 ◾Fire Emblem - 2003 ◾Golden Sun: The Lost Age - 2003 ◾Hamtaro: Ham-Ham Heartbreak - 2003 ◾Hamtaro: Rainbow Rescue - 2003 ◾Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga - 2003 ◾Pokémon Sapphire - 2003 ◾Pokémon Ruby - 2003 ◾Pokémon Pinball: Ruby & Sapphire - 2003 ◾Super Mario Advance 4: Super Mario Bros. 3 - 2003 ◾Sword of Mana - 2003 ◾Top Gear Rally - 2003 ◾WarioWare, Inc.: Mega Microgame$ - 2003 ◾Mother 1 + 2 - 2003 ◾Densetsu no Starfy 2 - 2003 ◾Densetsu no Starfy 3 - 2003 ◾Classic NES Series: Bomberman - 2004 ◾Classic NES Series: Castlevania - 2004 ◾Classic NES Series: Donkey Kong - 2004 ◾Classic NES Series: Dr. Mario - 2004 ◾Classic NES Series: Excitebike - 2004 ◾Classic NES Series: Ice Climber - 2004 ◾Classic NES Series: The Legend of Zelda - 2004 ◾Classic NES Series: Metroid - 2004 ◾Classic NES Series: Pac-Man - 2004 ◾Classic NES Series: Super Mario Bros. - 2004 ◾Classic NES Series: Xevious - 2004 ◾NES Classics: Zelda II: The Adventure of Link - 2004 ◾Donkey Kong Country 2 - 2004 ◾F-Zero GP Legend - 2004 ◾Final Fantasy I & II: Dawn of Souls - 2004 ◾Hamtaro: Ham-Ham Games - 2004 ◾Kirby and the Amazing Mirror - 2004 ◾Mario Golf: Advance Tour - 2004 ◾Mario Pinball Land - 2004 ◾Mario vs. Donkey Kong - 2004 ◾Metroid: Zero Mission - 2004 ◾Pokémon FireRed - 2004 ◾Pokémon LeafGreen - 2004 ◾F-Zero Climax - 2004 ◾Famicom Mini: Balloon Fight - 2004 ◾Famicom Mini: Clu Clu Land - 2004 ◾Famicom Mini: Famicom Mukashibanashi: Shin Onigashima - 2004 ◾Famicom Mini: Famicom Tantei Club: Keita Koukeisha - 2004 ◾Famicom Mini: Famicom Tantei Club Part II: Ushiro ni Tatsu Shoujo - 2004 ◾Famicom Mini: Kid Icarus - 2004 ◾Famicom Mini: Mario Bros. - 2004 ◾Famicom Mini: Nazo no Murasame-jō - 2004 ◾Famicom Mini: Super Mario Bros. 2 - 2004 ◾Wrecking Crew - 2004 ◾DK: King of Swing - 2005 ◾Donkey Kong Country 3 - 2005 ◾Sennen Kazoku - 2005 ◾Dr. Mario & Puzzle League - 2005 ◾Dynasty Warriors Advance - 2005 ◾Final Fantasy IV Advance - 2005 ◾Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones - 2005 ◾The Legend of Zelda: The Minish Cap - 2005 ◾Mario Party Advance - 2005 ◾Mario Tennis: Power Tour - 2005 ◾Pokémon Emerald - 2005 ◾WarioWare: Twisted! - 2005 ◾Yoshi Topsy-Turvy - 2005 ◾Drill Dozer - 2006 ◾Eyeshield 21: Devilbats Devildays - 2006 ◾Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Red Rescue Team - 2006 ◾Final Fantasy V Advance - 2006 ◾Tales of Phantasia - 2006 ◾Rhythm Tengoku - 2006 ◾Mother 3 - 2006 ◾Boundish - 2006 ◾Dialhex - 2006 ◾Dotstream - 2006 ◾Coloris - 2006 ◾Orbital - 2006 ◾Soundvoyager - 2006 ◾Digidrive - 2006 ◾Polarium Advance - 2006 ◾Calciobit - 2006 ◾Final Fantasy VI Advance - 2007
◾Pokémon Party mini - 2001 ◾Pokémon Pinball mini - 2001 ◾Pokémon Puzzle Collection - 2001 ◾Pokémon Zany Cards - 2001 ◾Pokémon Shock Tetris - 2001 ◾Pokémon Puzzle Collection 2 - 2001 ◾Pokémon Breeder mini - 2001 ◾Togepi's Great Adventure - 2001 ◾Pichu Bros. mini - 2001
Title: Re: Top 10 Nintendo published games (2000 - 2009)
Post by: NWR_insanolord on December 05, 2016, 07:20:36 PM
I completely forgot about the Pokémon Mini. I'm going to change my list so it's Super Mario Galaxy and then all nine games for that.
Title: Re: Top 10 Nintendo published games (2000 - 2009)
Post by: Khushrenada on December 05, 2016, 09:06:04 PM
So, there's 556 titles on that list. Now, some are sort of duplicated. You'll see there is Metroid Prime GC but there is also Metroid Prime New Play Controls and Metroid Prime Trilogy for the Wii listed. For the most part, it is the same game but someone may want to list it under one release and someone else may want to list it under another. Another example is the Electroplankton titles for DSiWare. I'm pretty sure those are all just the different modes from Electroplankton DS separated and sold individually. So, if you have Electroplankton DS, then you'll have all those titles already. Some of the titles are a technicality like World of Goo because Nintendo published it in Japan but it was published by the developers here in North America. Some games are Japan-only so it will be hard for them to crack most user's top ten lists.
For myself, I stuck with just the titles for the console I actually own. For instance, although Twilight Princess is going to be a similar experience in many ways for those that played it on GC or those that played it on Wii, I only played it on GameCube because that is the version I own and I've never played it with the Wii controls. Thus, I wouldn't list the Wii version in my list if I had it on there. That brought the list down to 134.
I then whittled down the list to titles I've actually beat/completed or played a significant portion of the game to feel I could accurately judge it. For instance, Advance Wars: Days of Ruin I never finished but I was about 6-7 campaigns away from completing the main story when I last checked. So, I had gotten about 75% of the way through. Whereas Star Fox Adventures, I've seen the opening cinematics and got to the point where Fox McCloud landed on Sauria but I haven't advanced any further than that. Barely scratched the surface of that game so I can not accurately judge it.
Surprisingly, that still left me 80 games to choose from. From that point, I removed the games I didn't like. I removed games that may have had some fun stuff but as a complete package were just so-so. Then I had to start asking myself, "If I could never play this again, would I be alright with that?" That question whittled away things like Mario Party games, remakes/remasters like Kirby Super Star Ultra and even some heavy hitters like Mario & Luigi: Superstar Sage and Metroid Prime 3: Corruption.
At that point, it then became a hard fight as I seemed to be comparing nostalgic memories against themselves. Comparing how I felt when I first played a game to how I feel when I play it now. Debating the fine points of what Metroid Prime does compared to Metroid Prime 2. Should the similarities hurt 2 or should I recommend it as the Metroid Prime game to play and then if someone were to play the first one after, they might think it is lessor compared to Prime 2? What sort of objectivity should I be using to judge these games?
Finally, I was at the point where I eliminated Smash Bros. Brawl and had a top 20. And that's what I'm going with. It's hard to be as objective with games because the time poured into them can vary for each person plus games that were released further back have a better chance of reviewing well than games released closer to the present because of nostalgia and getting played over multiple times to reinforce one's love of the title making it harder for a newer game to make as much as an impact or to be compared to how it isn't like a past/favorite game. Moreover, with me, although I would like to have seen a more diverse representation, my list is GameCube heavy because that is the era I was able to spend the most time playing games. During the Wii years around 2007-2008, my gaming time sort of dried up and I'm still playing catch-up with some of those titles released in that period. Plus, the cutoff date of 2009 removed some of the titles I was thinking of for the Wii like Kirby's Epic Yarn or Super Mario Galaxy 2 which were 2010. (That really was a strong year for the Wii.) But it is what it is. This is a representation of my gaming history and preferences. So, now that you have this unnecessarily long spiel of how I worked out my list, let's get to it!
Title: Re: Top 10 Nintendo published games (2000 - 2009)
Post by: Khushrenada on December 05, 2016, 09:24:45 PM
20. Professor Layton and the Curious Village (DS) 19. Mario Party 6 (GC) 18. Kirby: Canvas Curse (DS) 17. The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass (DS) 16. Super Mario 64 (DS) 15. Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door (GC) 14. Chibi-Robo! Plug into Adventure! (GC) 13. WarioWare: Twisted (GBA) 12. Metroid Prime 2: Echoes (GC) 11. Donkey Kong: Jungle Beat (GC)
And the top ten are:
10. Mario Kart: Double Dash!! (GC) 09. New Super Mario Bros. Wii (Wii) 08. Mario Kart DS (DS) 07. Metroid Prime (GC) 06. Super Smash Bros. Melee (GC) 05. The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker (GC) 04. Super Mario Sunshine (GC) 03. F-Zero GX (GC) 02. Metroid: Zero Mission (GBA) 01. Paper Mario (N64)
Title: Re: Top 10 Nintendo published games (2000 - 2009)
Post by: Evan_B on December 05, 2016, 09:36:33 PM
Here it is, chumps. The definitive Evan_B List.
Metroid Prime- Undeniably the best published game on the Gamecube, Metroid Prime is pure joy and solid design. Metroid: Zero Mission- Zero Mission is more straightforward and less exploratory than its competitor, Super Metroid, but that doesn't make it any less satisfying, challenging, and incredible. Super Smash Bros. Melee- The only Nintendo Fighter to retain its relevance and staying power during this era and the next, its depth might have been the result of glitches, but it's also a fun game despite that. Super Mario Sunshine- The truly superior 3D Mario platformer of this era, possibly bested by Galaxy 2, but not by Galaxy. Sunshine mixes an expanse moveset with frustrating precision and a great aesthetic. Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door- The best Paper Mario, the game features the tightest combat in the franchise, an interesting aesthetic that stands in stark contrast from Sunshine's tropic theme, and a surprisingly touching and varied story. Pikmin- Pikmin is too hard. It's too limiting. Arguments of the weak individuals that prefer Pikmin 2. Wario Land 3- The pinnacle of the Wario Land series is the most Collect-a-thon-like 2D platformer in existence, but that doesn't mean its gameplay isn't satisfying, its challenge enjoyable, and it's aesthetic immensely charming. The Legend of Zelda: The Minish Cap- Move over, Wind Waker, the real superior Zelda title has come out to play. It's fascinating dual-world mechanic turns an admittedly-small Hyrule into a dense treasure trove of secrets, and the items and unique dungeon mechanics make it more interesting than Wind Waker's rather bland and standard design. It also has a great GBA soundtrack. Pokemon HeartGold/SoulSilver- The definitive Pokemon experience. Did you like having two regions? Now have them with prettier graphics and a deeper narrative. Liked how Pikachu followed you around? Now you can have any Pokemon do so. Like good music? Here's a soundtrack. More varied than the games that surround it, HGSS utilize the best elements of the DS installments and also have the Pokewalker, which is a thing. Wii Sports- Yes, it was a huge gambit. Yes, it's not all that deep a game. But Wii Sports was a phenomenon for both gamers and non-gamers alike, and it got us to stand up and enjoy games with each other in a way that had never been done before. You have to give it credit for that.
Title: Re: Top 10 Nintendo published games (2000 - 2009)
Post by: Khushrenada on December 05, 2016, 09:38:56 PM
I was thinking of giving a brief reasoning on each title like Steefosaurus but I think I'll get to that later. In the meantime, if you're curious and want to know why a certain title is ranked as it is, go ahead and ask.
Finally, for those curious what titles I have played and made this list from, here is the list of 80 titles I selected from:
◾Kirby 64: The Crystal Shards - 2000 ◾Mario Party 2 - 2000 ◾Mickey's Speedway USA - 2000 ◾Mario Party 3 - 2001 ◾Paper Mario - 2001
◾Luigi's Mansion - 2001 ◾Super Smash Bros. Melee - 2001 ◾Pikmin - 2001 ◾Mario Party 4 - 2002 ◾Metroid Prime - 2002 ◾Super Mario Sunshine - 2002 ◾F-Zero GX - 2003 ◾The Legend of Zelda Collector's Edition - 2003 ◾The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time Master Quest - 2003 ◾The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker - 2003 ◾Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour - 2003 ◾Mario Kart: Double Dash‼ - 2003 ◾Mario Party 5 - 2003 ◾Wario World - 2003 ◾Mario Party 6 - 2004 ◾Metroid Prime 2: Echoes - 2004 ◾Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door - 2004 ◾Battalion Wars - 2005 ◾Dance Dance Revolution: Mario Mix - 2005 ◾Donkey Kong Jungle Beat - 2005 ◾Mario Party 7 - 2005 ◾Star Fox: Assault - 2005 ◾Chibi-Robo! - 2006 ◾The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess - 2006
◾Wii Sports - 2006 ◾Wii Play - 2006 ◾Mario Party 8 - 2007 ◾Metroid Prime 3: Corruption - 2007 ◾Super Mario Galaxy - 2007 ◾Super Smash Bros. Brawl - 2008 ◾Mario Kart Wii - 2008 ◾New Super Mario Bros. Wii - 2009 ◾Wii Fit Plus - 2009
◾Advance Wars - 2001 ◾Mario Kart: Super Circuit - 2001 ◾Kirby: Nightmare in Dream Land - 2002 ◾The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past - 2002 ◾Metroid Fusion - 2002 ◾Super Mario World: Super Mario Advance 2 - 2002 ◾Yoshi's Island: Super Mario Advance 3 - 2002 ◾Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga - 2003 ◾WarioWare, Inc.: Mega Microgame$ - 2003 ◾Kirby and the Amazing Mirror - 2004 ◾Mario vs. Donkey Kong - 2004 ◾Metroid: Zero Mission - 2004 ◾DK: King of Swing - 2005 ◾WarioWare: Twisted! - 2005 ◾Drill Dozer - 2006
◾Super Mario 64 DS - 2004 ◾Polarium - 2005 ◾Kirby: Canvas Curse - 2005 ◾Meteos - 2005 ◾Metroid Prime Pinball - 2005 ◾Mario Kart DS - 2005 ◾Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time - 2005 ◾Electroplankton - 2006 ◾Super Princess Peach - 2006 ◾Brain Age - 2006 ◾New Super Mario Bros. - 2006 ◾Sudoku Gridmaster - 2006 ◾Star Fox Command - 2006 ◾Clubhouse Games - 2006 ◾Yoshi's Island DS - 2006 ◾Kirby: Squeak Squad - 2006 ◾Personal Trainer: Cooking - 2006 ◾Diddy Kong Racing DS - 2007 ◾Wario: Master of Disguise - 2007 ◾Brain Age 2 - 2007 ◾The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass - 2007 ◾Advance Wars: Days of Ruin - 2008 ◾Crosswords DS - 2008 ◾Professor Layton and the Curious Village - 2008 ◾The Legendary Starfy - 2008 ◾Kirby Super Star Ultra - 2008 ◾Professor Layton and the Diabolical Box - 2009
Title: Re: Top 10 Nintendo published games (2000 - 2009)
Post by: Evan_B on December 05, 2016, 09:41:53 PM
I would have found either half of your list acceptable if you had included Kirby 64. But alas.
Alas.
Title: Re: Top 10 Nintendo published games (2000 - 2009)
Post by: supermario2k on December 05, 2016, 11:28:20 PM
Fine change the rules, what do I care I will play along.
Super Mario 64 DS- I picked this as my top game for several reasons. It was the first game I played on the DS and my favorite game on the DS. Super Mario 64 is one of my favorite games of all time and while this game is not the same it has enough Super Mario 64 to keep me happy. My favorite Mario of all-time is Super Mario World, nothing is going to change that, so I stuck to the timeframe. I think I enjoyed this game more than even the GBA remake of Super Mario World, mostly because this game took SM64 and added Luigi, something I felt that the game should have had from he start, and the mini games were pretty cool.
Mario Party 4- I picked this based on two factors, nostalgia as is the normal case, and the amount of time I put into it. For me this was the perfect Mario Party game. I played it with everyone I knew, many people I have memories of playing this game with are no longer alive so it's dear to me, mainly for the memories it preserves. But I also stopped liking Mario Party games after so for me it's also a time capsule.
Super Smash Bros. Melee- The Game Cube is easily my favorite Nintendo console most days. I sometimes go back and forth between this and the SNES but as a Sega fanboy back in the day there was a period I had major contempt for the SNES. I never had that for the Game Cube. Melee is similar to Mario Party in that it holds memories I wish to keep alive so yes as I play it I try to recall those memories, especially of friends long gone. But I also love this game tremendously it's one of my favorite games on the system and my favorite game in the series.
Star Fox Adventures- This one I disagree with most people, it truly is one of my favorite games of all time. I didn't mind the fetch quests, my biggest complaint at the time was the ending really disappointed me but I was fine with it. There was a young girl in my life at the time, she started out a kid my sisters babysat eventually she became a part of the family, it was her favorite game, it was our favorite thing to do together. I have no problem admitting emotions play a large part of the games I choose, its why I still go back to Pac-Man almost daily or at least once a week. Anyways all that aside, I still enjoyed the game, to me this was the best Zelda game you could get for the Game Cube. Not being the biggest Zelda fan anyways I just really liked this game. Also a friend that is long one showed it to me and well he influenced my decision to get it.
Legend of Zelda Collector's Edition- Zelda NES and Zelda 2 NES really are all there needs to be to say why I love this game. I would have cheated at put the Classic NES series games on here but that wouldn't be fair as to this day this is the ONLY Game Cube game I still have from my original Cube back in the day. It's the copy that came with the game.
New Super Mario Bros.- This is the game that got me back into Mario games after despising Sunshine, and not caring for Galaxies or it's sequel. Upon replaying on Wii U VC I still enjoy it a lot. It reminded me of Super Mario Bros. 3 and Super Mario World in a lot of ways and took me back in time. Also it got me through some dark days when I was losing so many of those above mentioned friends.
Metroid Prime- No story here, just was the very first Metroid game I ever played and I fell in love with it, the whole idea of First Person Shooters, and because of this game I went back and discovered the amazing Super Metroid. I also think the story and the world really drew me in and I spent a ton of hours on this game. I didn't hesitate to get the updated version for the Wii U VC in the form of Trilogy.
Tetris DS- To be honest I was contemplating Mario Kart DS as this and that were my first 2 ever online games. But I was good at Tetris, I could win matches, I could beat the game, I played all the different methods and this was the game that made it hard to sell my DS when the time came. Mario Kart DS on the other hand, holds special place as the first true online game I playd, I played it first but got them both the same day, well I suck at Mario Kart. Partly because, I hate Mario Kart, there I said it. I never cared for the series. To me it took the illusion I had in my mind of Mario existing in a fantasy world and just destroyed it. My world was shattered by that and I never forgave those punks since. But I don't know I guess Tetris is one of those games I play and I zone out. I can literally play for hours.
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles- This was my second Final Fantasy game ever. I am not a huge RPG fan, I like the genre okay and play D&D a lot but I just can't get into them they take forever. Even D&D I play encounters style not epic adventures. BUt this game felt more like a D&D RPG and not an anime turned into a video game like all those other games. As not a fan of anime I was turned off by all the anime RPG's especially the popular at the time FFX. But I also loved the 4 player aspect, I was a huge fan of the connectivity, partly why I am excited for the Switch and didn't hate the Wii U despite the flaws. But this game was my favorite RPG for a long time and as someone who just didn't get into the FF series I was surprised at how much I enjoyed this game. Also GC, did I mention I love the Game Cube. I also, sadly, have memories of this game tied to dead friends so well there is still that too.
Super Paper Mario- This was process of elimination, there was nothing else from the list Khush provided, which I just found on Google and skimmed through, that I felt I enjoyed as much. It started out as a Game Cube game so that made me automatically interested in it. But I still like it a lot and I recently started re-playing it on VC.
Title: Re: Top 10 Nintendo published games (2000 - 2009)
Post by: Khushrenada on December 06, 2016, 12:45:23 AM
I would have found either half of your list acceptable if you had included Kirby 64. But alas.
Alas.
Honestly, I did have to think hard about that one too for just the music / OST alone. If that was the only criteria, I'd dare say it would probably make top 5 of that list. It's got some great, great themes.
Ultimately, I think you and I agree on a lot. You rank TTYD higher on your list whereas I'm more positive on the original but it's not like I disdain TTYD. It just didn't make the top ten for me over a few imperfections I perceive about the game compared to the first. Haven't played Heartgold/Soulsilver, Wario Land 3 or Minish Cap to know what I might think of them in relation to my list. The only one I really disagree with is Wii Sports. Aside from Bowling, I never cared for anything else on the disc. It never felt like I was in control with the games except for Bowling. That was the only one where the illusion worked.
As for Pikmin, I do like the game. It was one of the first few titles I owned for the system but that game puts me through an emotional wringer. It's depiction of nature can be brutal sometimes and there's nothing worse than your little Pikmin croaking from an error you made or a predator taking them down. At the same time, watching the Pikmin harvest the bodies of their fallen foes is also a little creepy. At the end of the day, it is a kill or be killed game and, even though it is necessary for your survival, sending your zombie-like hordes to tear the enemy apart on all sides is such an odd thing to see from Nintendo. It may be labelled E for Everyone but I think it is one of their most mature titles. That odd dichotomy makes it hard for me to fully embrace the game like I have with Sunshine or Zero Mission.
Title: Re: Top 10 Nintendo published games (2000 - 2009)
Post by: Evan_B on December 06, 2016, 12:57:29 AM
I respect you very much, Khush.
Title: Re: Top 10 Nintendo published games (2000 - 2009)
Post by: Khushrenada on December 06, 2016, 02:31:16 AM
Awwwww. Let's hug it out, brosef! I've always respected you too, ever since we started fighting the good fight for Sunshine on these forums a couple years ago. I'm glad you've warmed back up to these forums because I've always enjoyed your opinion and take on the world of Nintendo gaming.
This thread is over. No other opinions need now apply. 8) ;)
