Topic: If Nintendo has a "real" Press Conference at E32015...I award you no points!

[Nile Boogie Returns]

(Would it be a step back?)



Unless they are revealing some new hardware I'm going to say yes. For Nintendo, Treehouse  Live and the Digital event were some off the only things Nintendo has absolutely nailed over the last 5 years. I hope this is the wave of the future and not a one off.

[NWR_insanolord]

There's no reason they couldn't do a traditional press conference and then still do all the online content afterward. There's sometning to be said for the spectacle of the press conference.

[Adrock]

Unless Nintendo does both, I'd say going back to a traditional press conference is a step backward. I like the Nintendo Direct. It's all the information I want and very little to no fluff. Sure, they have some short skits, but I'll take them over the technical difficulties and rambling mess of regular press conferences where companies often mirror kiss on stage over their sales data. Great if you want to hear that stuff, but I just want to see/hear about the games.

[NWR_insanolord]

Nintendo usually doesn't like to show things that are more than a year out at E3, and that time period following this year's show looks to be pretty damn impressive for the Wii U. I think for that reason it makes sense to blow the doors off the place, with a conference and the Treehouse Live stuff. Nintendo tends to get credit for "winning" E3 anytime they actually come prepared, and barring something awful they're definitely set up for that this year.

[Nile Boogie Returns]

Now that I think about it, I don't need a press conference or digital event. Gimme Treehouse Live and another Smash and Splatoon Tourney and I'm good. If its budget constraints that only allow for X amount of dollars of E3, I want the most gameplay stuffs for the buck. They'll have a press 2016 for sure when they announce whatever new system /handheld thingy.

[Ian Sane]

I think having no "real" conference at E3 makes Nintendo look small time.  Like they don't matter enough to get a press conference at E3 anymore.  Like E3 only allows those for the companies that matter.  Nintendo stopped doing E3 conferences around the same time the incredibly unsuccessful Wii U came out.  That's a connection I don't think Nintendo should want people to make.  A non-Nintendo gamer that otherwise pays attention to E3 may assume that the Wii U has put Nintendo in such peril that they no longer show up to the event.

Or let's make it simple.  Nintendo has not been doing so well in the last few years.  "Skipping E3" is something they've only recently started doing.  While it's debatable if it has negatively impacted them, clearly it isn't HELPING in any way and their old approach wasn't hurting them so why not go back?  Wii U era Nintendo is a disaster.  Ideas that originated in this era, like "skipping E3", should be soundly rejected as the people who thought of them clearly have no idea what they're doing.

Nintendo Directs are cool but they're preaching to the choir.  Nintendo needs people outside their ever shrinking fanbase to care about them and avoiding major public events like E3 is not the way to do that.

[NWR_insanolord]

I actually think the way Nintendo did things last year probably had a greater reach than the old press conferences. They were putting out non-stop video content the entire show, which is pretty awesome unless you're actually at E3 trying to cover it, in which case it sucks. I still think the best approach would be to do both, though.

[Nile Boogie Returns]

  A non-Nintendo gamer that otherwise pays attention to E3

I'm not sure this is a real thing.


Last year's E3 was Nintendo's best showing at the conference in a very long time and that sentiment was echoed across most of the gaming world and not just "us". I guess it would be fine if they have a traditional presser but not at the expense of the treehouse. I bring this up because there is this article (link goes here) that states the reason Nintendo went that route last year was to save money. It cost couple of million dollars to put on E3 for Nintendo (who knew?) and they had to slash some of the fluff.

[NWR_insanolord]

People talk about anti-Nintendo sentiment in the media, but if you look back, pretty much every E3 where they actually brought their A game they were unanimously declared the winner. If the games are there, it doesn't matter if it's a live press conference or internet streams.

[Adrock]

Based on the floor layout, Nintendo occupied a larger area than Sony. That said, I don't see how anyone could reasonably say not having a traditional press conference made Nintendo look small time. That isn't even taking into account all the Treehouse stuff that runs over the course of E3 and the smaller events Nintendo has after the first day or E3. Last year, Sakurai revealed Pac-Man in Super Smash Bros. then Nintendo showed off Code Name S.T.E.A.M.

And Nintendo still addresses the press and other industry people in a closed meeting. Nintendo just took the spectacle of the traditional press conferences and focused that into the Nintendo E3 Digital Event then took all the boring crap, crammed a bunch of people into a room, and talked at them for a while, probably with a PowerPoint presentation. Then, it's business as usual where all the attendees go to the actual show and demo the games.

[Soren]

If the Treehouse Live streams continue then everything will be good.

[Mop it up]

I think what they do now is better for fans, but having one would be better for their image.

[Phil]

I didn't have to see journalists be unable to jump on a Goomba in Super Mario 3D World like at E3 two years ago. Instead, I got to see people who knew what they were doing show me the games. None of the personalities were annoying, either, unlike many game journalists and YouTube people.

Plus, it gave fans an all-access pass to E3 which was fantastic.

[Shaymin]

Only if Reggie shoots eye lasers that vaporize a writer from Polygon like last year.

[Nile Boogie Returns]

My frothing for a full Zelda U Treehouse blowout is large.

[azeke]

Hmm...

40 minute conference with half of it executives reporting sales figures and market diagrams and the other half with them trying to show the game on a stage?..

Or multiple 8 hour live streams with likable (and most importantly REAL) people just playing videogames and showing cool stuff?

Choices, choices...

[broodwars]

Hmm...

40 minute conference with half of it executives reporting sales figures and market diagrams and the other half with them trying to show the game on a stage?..

Or multiple 8 hour live streams with likable (and most importantly REAL) people just playing videogames and showing cool stuff?

Choices, choices...

Or Nintendo could just do both: do the big stage show for the press & people at home (like me) who enjoy a good E3 stage show, and then follow it up with Treehouse live streams I'll never have time to watch because during E3 there are far more and far better things I could be watching or doing.

[azeke]

Or Nintendo could just do both: do the big stage show for the press & people at home (like me) who enjoy a good E3 stage show

Good thing i am not press and don't give a single **** what they think.

And don't even try to pretend that you even begun to start to care about Kotaku/Polygon and other similar rag sites. These guys get games for free -- boo hoo they should be catered for even more!

Big presentations are 90% cringe. If it's not sales talk, it's pathetic attempts to squeeze out applauds from paid up audience. Or it's just complete debris that is so bad it gets even funny (Konami).

Unless of course you actively enjoy seeing sales talks and stupid **** like that, then i couldn't be even further from understanding your preferences.

How about you save me 40 minutes of embarrassment and get to the goods right away?

You have 30-40 minute long Direct with everything compressed if you are not committed to the hobby you spend thousands of dollars every year to eek out a paid leave for E3 week.

Trailers are the most important thing about these stupid presentations anyway. E3 Direct is just that -- trailer, after trailer, after trailer, after trailer.

And if you care for more you have livestreams that will provide the best coverage of E3 you will ever have.

[broodwars]

Or Nintendo could just do both: do the big stage show for the press & people at home (like me) who enjoy a good E3 stage show

Good thing i am not press and don't give a single **** what they think.

And don't even try to pretend that you even begun to start to care about Kotaku/Polygon and other similar rag sites. These guys get games for free -- boo hoo they should be catered for even more!

Big presentations are 90% cringe. If it's not sales talk, it's pathetic attempts to squeeze out applauds from paid up audience. Or it's just complete debris that is so bad it gets even funny (Konami).

Unless of course you actively enjoy seeing sales talks and stupid **** like that, then i couldn't be even further from understanding your preferences.

How about you save me 40 minutes of embarrassment and get to the goods right away?

You have 30-40 minute long Direct with everything compressed if you are not committed to the hobby you spend thousands of dollars every year to eek out a paid leave for E3 week.

Trailers are the most important thing about these stupid presentations anyway. E3 Direct is just that -- trailer, after trailer, after trailer, after trailer.

And if you care for more you have livestreams that will provide the best coverage of E3 you will ever have.

I find the Directs incredibly boring, and if Iwata's involved also incredibly hard to listen to due to his broken English. I enjoy a degree of theatricality, of grandeur to these proceedings. I enjoy the build-up and anticipation, and yes I also enjoy seeing things not go according to plan. By comparison, the Directs are pre-packaged and incredibly dry information dumps. There's value in that and you all remember that I said last year that Nintendo's E3 Direct was excellent, but when it comes to E3 I prefer the drama of the big stage and the occasional live demos. Also, nothing says you can play with the big boys of the gaming industry quite like an E3 press conference. When we have THREE E3 conferences this year (Sony, Microsoft, & Bethesda) and Nintendo has their dinky little latency-ladden Direct in the corner, it's easy to perceive that Nintendo doesn't matter anymore.

We get 1-2 dozen by-the-numbers, no-surprises, complete-with-Happy-Meal-box Directs a year. All I ask for is 1 day a year where those of us who enjoy it can just bask in the drama & excitement of a proper E3 press conference. We can have the best of both worlds here and make everyone happy.

[marvel_moviefan_2012]

Or Nintendo could just do both: do the big stage show for the press & people at home (like me) who enjoy a good E3 stage show

Good thing i am not press and don't give a single **** what they think.

And don't even try to pretend that you even begun to start to care about Kotaku/Polygon and other similar rag sites. These guys get games for free -- boo hoo they should be catered for even more!

Big presentations are 90% cringe. If it's not sales talk, it's pathetic attempts to squeeze out applauds from paid up audience. Or it's just complete debris that is so bad it gets even funny (Konami).

Unless of course you actively enjoy seeing sales talks and stupid **** like that, then i couldn't be even further from understanding your preferences.

How about you save me 40 minutes of embarrassment and get to the goods right away?

You have 30-40 minute long Direct with everything compressed if you are not committed to the hobby you spend thousands of dollars every year to eek out a paid leave for E3 week.

Trailers are the most important thing about these stupid presentations anyway. E3 Direct is just that -- trailer, after trailer, after trailer, after trailer.

And if you care for more you have livestreams that will provide the best coverage of E3 you will ever have.

I find the Directs incredibly boring, and if Iwata's involved also incredibly hard to listen to due to his broken English. I enjoy a degree of theatricality, of grandeur to these proceedings. I enjoy the build-up and anticipation, and yes I also enjoy seeing things not go according to plan. By comparison, the Directs are pre-packaged and incredibly dry information dumps. There's value in that and you all remember that I said last year that Nintendo's E3 Direct was excellent, but when it comes to E3 I prefer the drama of the big stage and the occasional live demos. Also, nothing says you can play with the big boys of the gaming industry quite like an E3 press conference. When we have THREE E3 conferences this year (Sony, Microsoft, & Bethesda) and Nintendo has their dinky little latency-ladden Direct in the corner, it's easy to perceive that Nintendo doesn't matter anymore.

We get 1-2 dozen by-the-numbers, no-surprises, complete-with-Happy-Meal-box Directs a year. All I ask for is 1 day a year where those of us who enjoy it can just bask in the drama & excitement of a proper E3 press conference. We can have the best of both worlds here and make everyone happy.

That is debatable though, seriously the days where Nintendo tried to make everyone happy are long gone, they will do whatever they want no matter how dumb it is there will be those who still enjoy it because they will never say anything bad about Nintendo because they are too emotionally invested in this company.


I used to be that way then I got my hands on a Wii and learned the hard way this company really doesn't treat their fans right anymore.

[broodwars]

The thing is, I don't think Nintendo's approaching E3 a bad way. Clearly the Direct format has worked well for them, and the Treehouse format was a stroke of genius that Sony was happy to copy when they did their PlayStation Experience last year. I'd just like the full stage show along with what they already did last year. It's E3: the biggest, loudest display of gaming awesomeness of the year. I'd like to see Nintendo re-take their place there.

[azeke]

I find the Directs incredibly boring,

I will take any Direct (even if i don't care about game in question, like Wii Fit Direct) over any E3 presentation from either Sony or Microsoft in the last i dunno 10 years.

Last time they spent what? 30 minutes on superhero TV series?.. Explain to me why i should spend my precious time on that crap (though i actually do plan to read Bendis' comic book sometime) instead of watching actual gameplay footage of a VIDEOGAME?

I am an IT specialist -- i PREFER my information concise, short, right to the point.

Leave fluff to shallow people, leave them their Oscars, Grammies and reality shows.

Not even touching Microsoft conference -- it was beyond awful.

and if Iwata's involved also incredibly hard to listen to due to his broken English.

I find people who instead of appreciating that CEO wants to be as direct to his consumers as possible, take offense to his accent suspiciously close to racists.

This also becomes ironic when people in question have let's say -- less than stellar speaking voice themselves.

[broodwars]

I find people who instead of appreciating that CEO wants to be as direct to his consumers as possible, take offense to his accent suspiciously close to racists.

This also becomes ironic when people in question have let's say -- less than stellar speaking voice themselves.

1. If you have an issue with any of the speaking voices on our podcast, you are always welcome to leave feedback at nintendofreeradio@gmail.com, or in the General Discussion threads for any of our podcasts. But I don't have to worry about that, because you never do.

2. This is America, a majority English-speaking territory. If you're going to put someone before an English-speaking audience to deliver a speech, use a native English-speaking person. Not only does it dramatically speed-up your presentation because you can say more than 1 word every 2 seconds, but it also allows for better cadence and flow of information. I don't care about Iwata's goddamn accent. I care that it takes him 5 minutes to deliver a 2 minute speech badly because he's not a native English speaker. And it's OK that he's not. That's why we have Reggie and Bill Trinnen to do that for him.

[Khushrenada]

1. If you have an issue with any of the speaking voices on our podcast, you are always welcome to leave feedback at nintendofreeradio@gmail.com, or in the General Discussion threads for any of our podcasts. But I don't have to worry about that, because you never do.

*gasp* So, if I write in enough complaining about your voice, you'll take yourself off the air? Time to start up the grassroots campaign to make it happen. Finally, Broodwars and fun can be used in the same sentence.

[broodwars]

1. If you have an issue with any of the speaking voices on our podcast, you are always welcome to leave feedback at nintendofreeradio@gmail.com, or in the General Discussion threads for any of our podcasts. But I don't have to worry about that, because you never do.

*gasp* So, if I write in enough complaining about your voice, you'll take yourself off the air? Time to start up the grassroots campaign to make it happen. Finally, Broodwars and fun can be used in the same sentence.

Actually listen to our shows and write-in, and I'll entertain the notion of actually caring about what you think, which is more than I do right now.  From where I stand, if I'm putting myself out there twice a month for 3 hours at a time (plus editing time, which no one who hasn't done it really appreciates) and I don't hear from someone who claims to listen to the show, I question what use you are to me.