Topic: Get Your Grub On

[GoldenPhoenix]

Eh, I wouldn't necessarily call MSG "safe"...

http://www.truthinlabeling.org/Proof_BrainLesions_CNS.html

I've always been highly allergic to it, as has my mother. But even my friends who can consume it without much issue will get head/stomach aches in sufficient amounts. It is essentially a neurotoxin as it's job is to overstimulate the taste buds to "fake" enhanced flavor.

This says nothing to your enjoyment of the snack. If you like it, enjoy. Just saying that until they come out with an organic version (and there's debate to whether or not that's safe either), it won't be something I can partake in.

Nothing like taking one source to back up your claims. Anyway I use MSG in virtually everything I make, no one in my family is allergic to it and it adds a great flavor. I'll also match that MSG with the great tasting aspartame in a drink .

[Caliban]

You always hear about what's bad but it seems like there's not much discussion on what is good for you.

lol I know what you mean. All the advice I can give is summed up to two sentences: Anything that comes from nature, whether it is produced en mass or not, is good for you. Eat in moderation.

And the stuff that is advertised as being "healthy" is often ridiculously expensive.

Are you talking about frozen foods?

I don't even know what's going on with the whole "organic" buzzword because I've always thought all food is organic...

All natural food is organic, scientifically at least lol. Processed foods, and food put in any kind of package has non-natural ingredients I would say they aren't totally organic, but that's just my opinion. If your body can absorb all the nutrients from whatever you ate, then I would say that is as organic as can be.

Organic means that no chemicals or pesticides were used in the ground or on the plants when they were growing.

I just looked it up. It doesn't necessarily mean that absolutely no chemicals are used, just less chemicals. So you aren't even safe there.

I guess I'll just have to grow my own food...

A little story... where I grew up, the owned terrain was approximately 10 764 ft^2. A small area for the house, a similar area for garden and driveway, and a huge area for farming and the barn and whatnot. My parents would plant anything they wanted within seasonal restrictions. Everything was grown naturally, yet they had to use a minimal amount of chemicals to protect fruit trees and veggies from parasites, diseases,  bugs, and whatnot. You just can't grown anything naturally unless you have it all covered to protect the plantation from nature itself. However if you live in an area that is not surrounded by such wilderness, i.e. in the city, and you have enough space then you shouldn't have much a problem growing anything without much chemicals other than resupplying the ground with more nutrients.

[GoldenPhoenix]

Anything that comes from nature, whether it is produced en mass or not, is good for you. Eat in moderation.

So kids, next time you find an uranium deposit make sure you use it to create your dining utensils. Make sure you garnish your meal with a liberal amount of poison ivy, with a couple handfuls of deadly nightshade, and for flavor please use all the mercury you wish. Because, remember, if it comes from nature it has to be good for you!

[NWR_insanolord]

Most of the deadliest poisons known to man are 100% natural. That's why I make a point to eat as little natural food as possible.

[Caliban]

Anything that comes from nature, whether it is produced en mass or not, is good for you. Eat in moderation.

So kids, next time you find an uranium deposit make sure you use it to create your dining utensils. Make sure you garnish your meal with a liberal amount of poison ivy, with a couple handfuls of deadly nightshade, and for flavor please use all the mercury you wish. Because, remember, if it comes from nature it has to be good for you!

*FACEPALM*

Most of the deadliest poisons known to man are 100% natural. That's why I make a point to eat as little natural food as possible.

*DOUBLE FACEPALM*

Has common sense died off, or something. Of course I meant any food that is edible given by nature from the group of fruits, vegetables, grains, meats, etcetera. Good Lord! Sheesh!

I seriously hope those 2 were being sarcastic.

[GoldenPhoenix]

Anything that comes from nature, whether it is produced en mass or not, is good for you. Eat in moderation.

So kids, next time you find an uranium deposit make sure you use it to create your dining utensils. Make sure you garnish your meal with a liberal amount of poison ivy, with a couple handfuls of deadly nightshade, and for flavor please use all the mercury you wish. Because, remember, if it comes from nature it has to be good for you!

*FACEPALM*

Most of the deadliest poisons known to man are 100% natural. That's why I make a point to eat as little natural food as possible.

*DOUBLE FACEPALM*

Has common sense died off, or something. Of course I meant any food that is edible given by nature from the group of fruits, vegetables, grains, meats, etcetera. Good Lord! Sheesh!

I seriously hope those 2 were being sarcastic.

I was deadly serious, I think everyone should try my dish at least once.

[Caliban]

[UncleBob]

I thought about eating more natural foods, then I learned that so many people died from natural causes.

[vudu]

The Chinese restaurant near my home features no MSG.  Not sure how you can feature something you don't use.  Just sayin'.

[Smash_Brother]

MSG is a traditional part of Japanese cuisine and has been used (in its natural forms, primarily seaweed) for at least hundreds if not thousands of years. If you're allergic, that's one thing. Otherwise you're just paranoid.

It's a salt. Eat too much of anything and it's bad for you. Sure, there's too much MSG in the modern diet, but it's doing less harm than many other things used in excess.

Some people are allergic, some aren't.

But the real issue most people take is that MSG is very often hidden in ingredient labels. Gamer Grub at least has the balls to call it monosodium glutamate right on the list.

Generally speaking, if something lists "Natural Flavor" or "Spices", I can't eat it for risk of MSG poisoning. That's why many people are up in arms about it, because companies see the need to conceal it instead of just listing it right out there.

[Jonnyboy117]

Companies conceal it in ingredients lists because people have made it out to be some kind of evil poison when it's not. But I totally think it should be listed accurately, just like other allergens such as peanuts. I don't understand Asian restaurants that don't use MSG. At least make it an option for those of us who like it.

[NWR_pap64]

Is this even an issue?

People who are allergic to MSG avoid it. People who love MSG sprinkle it on everything edible. Its a matter of choice, like red or blue, paper or plastic, boxers or briefs. Why even argue it like it matters to everyone?

[GoldenPhoenix]

Is this even an issue?

People who are allergic to MSG avoid it. People who love MSG sprinkle it on everything edible. Its a matter of choice, like red or blue, paper or plastic, boxers or briefs. Why even argue it like it matters to everyone?

Party pooper.

[Stratos]

Is this even an issue?

People who are allergic to MSG avoid it. People who love MSG sprinkle it on everything edible. Its a matter of choice, like red or blue, paper or plastic, boxers or briefs. Why even argue it like it matters to everyone?

Party pooper.

GP likes to argue

[Stogi]

MSG is a traditional part of Japanese cuisine and has been used (in its natural forms, primarily seaweed) for at least hundreds if not thousands of years. If you're allergic, that's one thing. Otherwise you're just paranoid.

It's a salt. Eat too much of anything and it's bad for you. Sure, there's too much MSG in the modern diet, but it's doing less harm than many other things used in excess.

I'm sorry, but I usually don't care about ignorance, but this is just wrong. My mother is an oncologist and consistently warns me about MSG. MSG is absolutely terrible for you. Yes it's in a lot of Asian cuisine, but WTF does that mean?

It's hard to avoid eating MSG. Even in places that claim they don't use MSG probably do through the sauces and other ingredients they add.

Stay away from it!

[GoldenPhoenix]

MSG is a traditional part of Japanese cuisine and has been used (in its natural forms, primarily seaweed) for at least hundreds if not thousands of years. If you're allergic, that's one thing. Otherwise you're just paranoid.

It's a salt. Eat too much of anything and it's bad for you. Sure, there's too much MSG in the modern diet, but it's doing less harm than many other things used in excess.

I'm sorry, but I usually don't care about ignorance, but this is just wrong. My mother is an oncologist and consistently warns me about MSG. MSG is absolutely terrible for you. Yes it's in a lot of Asian cuisine, but WTF does that mean?

It's hard to avoid eating MSG. Even in places that claim they don't use MSG probably do through the sauces and other ingredients they add.

Stay away from it!

Or people can mind their own  business regardless of what their mom says.

Also I see some extreme irony considering the source of this warning!

[Stratos]

The trick is that people in Japan have the highest rate of people reaching centenial ages. So despite MSG in Asian food, they aren't obviously dieing from it. Unless Japan is the exception the the Asian MGS rule. Though I doubt it considering some of the dishes I've seen from there.

[Stogi]

Despite it being my mother, she is an oncologist and has been one for sometime. This is FIRST HAND knowledge.

[GoldenPhoenix]

Despite it being my mother, she is an oncologist and has been one for sometime. This is FIRST HAND knowledge.

Wow, doctors of all types never disagree either!

http://jn.nutrition.org/cgi/content/full/130/4/1058S

Seriously like most of these health concerns regarding certain food products, you can find studies from both sides. So to call someone ignorant is totally uncalled for because they know a person who believes different.

[Stogi]

It's ignorant to think that just because a society has lived through the years eating one type of food, that others are fine to eat it; ie, you ever drink the water from Mexico?

EDIT: You can heed the advice or not. Ultimately, it's your body and I could give six shades of **** what you do with it.

[GoldenPhoenix]

It's ignorant to think that just because a society has lived through the years eating one type of food, that others are fine to eat it; ie, you ever drink the water from Mexico?

EDIT: You can heed the advice or not. Ultimately, it's your body and I could give six shades of **** what you do with it.

Considering the source, I think I'll look to other sources for my information.

[Stogi]

Are you dissing me or my mother?

[GoldenPhoenix]

Are you dissing me or my mother?

Oh perhaps you, or maybe I was saying look at different sources then one person. We may never know exactly what I meant. At least I didn't call you ignorant like you called Jonny the super mod. BTW I would drink Mexican water too if it seemed to cause a great life expectancy in the population!

[Stogi]

Ignorance is not a diss, questioning my mother's status as a published researcher and tenured professor is.

Is Jonny a researcher? Is a Jonny an oncologist? Then he might not know the intricacies of what causes cancer; ie ignorant.

[King of Twitch]

A WTF.GTFO.STFU policy is in order here.

Because Without The Facts, we're just Gamers That Fight Over Stuff That's Fairly Unnecessary