Post by: S-U-P-E-R on November 23, 2005, 10:39:23 PM
I love Princess Peach so much I'm going to make a creepy website about how I'm married to her.
Post by: IceCold on November 23, 2005, 10:42:09 PM
Anyway, good review. I'm probably not going to get this right away, but I'll get it somewhere along the road.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 23, 2005, 11:14:46 PM
Post by: KDR_11k on November 24, 2005, 05:05:25 AM
Post by: JonLeung on November 24, 2005, 06:34:07 AM
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Pros:
Good ol' fashioned 2D Mario gameplay
SOLD!
Okay, well, I'm insecure. I play Mario and Pokémon to death, which is enough to bother all my friends, so if I ever do get this, I'm probably not going to play it in a public place.
However, it IS 2D Mario gameplay...when's New Super Mario Bros. supposed to come out again? >_<
(Pro666's avatar images have actually gotten me...um...interested in Daisy more. I thought HI I'M DAISY from Mario Kart: Double Dash!! was cute but man...)
Post by: Ian Sane on November 24, 2005, 06:43:49 AM
The ideal balance for game difficulty is for a game to be hard enough that you're going to die and fail a few times but it's never so hard that you get frustrated and basically require sheer luck to beat certain parts (Super Mario Sunshine I'm looking at you and your sh!tty camera). Nintendo had this balance on the SNES and it was pretty good on the N64 too. Why they have tinkered with this balance I'll never know. Having a really easy game is in some ways just as bad as having an impossibly hard game. Both make you feel cheated.
Still I am going to buy this game regardless of difficulty. It sounds pretty sweet.
Post by: Darkheart on November 24, 2005, 06:47:25 AM
Post by: KDR_11k on November 24, 2005, 08:46:03 AM
After playing Super Demo World I'm forced to agree. SMW is NOTHING.
Nintendo's classic games largely were not that difficult so it makes no sense for them to lessen the difficultly in all their ports
Super Mario Bros 3 seemed more difficult to me. Sure, you don't shrink completely from one hit but the physics seem much slippier than I remember them (feels like playing Sonic), leading to many deaths.
Post by: Deguello on November 26, 2005, 06:19:22 AM
What the hell are you talking about? Sunshine's camera was great. I think you really have no idea what a terrible camera looks like. A terrible camera would be the one from Sonic Heroes. Anyway, this "balance" is impossible as everybody has different skill levels. I mean, I beat master mode once with all pilots and every mission on every difficulty in F-Zero GX. So suffice to say, things I might consider easy may not be easy for the rest of the game-playing populace.
By the way, Ian, it's nice that you figured out that the exclamation mark kinda looks like a lowercase "I" allowing for a lot of fun filter dodges but I th!nk !t's t!me we bur!ed !t.
Post by: Artimus on November 26, 2005, 06:53:27 AM
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
I'm a little disappointed to hear that it's a little easy. I wish Nintendo would realize that Super Mario World was NOT A HARD GAME. Yeah some of the levels like Tubular and the Forest Fortress were insanely hard but they were optional levels you didn't have to beat to beat the game. Nintendo's classic games largely were not that difficult so it makes no sense for them to lessen the difficultly in all their ports and make it impossible to die even once in Wind Waker unless you try to.
The ideal balance for game difficulty is for a game to be hard enough that you're going to die and fail a few times but it's never so hard that you get frustrated and basically require sheer luck to beat certain parts (Super Mario Sunshine I'm looking at you and your sh!tty camera). Nintendo had this balance on the SNES and it was pretty good on the N64 too. Why they have tinkered with this balance I'll never know. Having a really easy game is in some ways just as bad as having an impossibly hard game. Both make you feel cheated.
Still I am going to buy this game regardless of difficulty. It sounds pretty sweet.
Super Princess Peach wasn't designed as a new Mario game, it was designed to appeal to girls. They weren't trying to make it as hard as classic games.
Post by: KDR_11k on November 26, 2005, 07:45:13 AM
A terrible camera is one that hinders you while you are playing the game like the one in Super Mario Sunshine or Super Mario 64 DS. I can't count how many times that damn thing killed me.
Post by: Artimus on November 26, 2005, 08:21:17 AM
Post by: KDR_11k on November 26, 2005, 08:35:40 AM
Post by: Artimus on November 26, 2005, 08:49:31 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on November 26, 2005, 08:51:47 AM
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Originally posted by: Artimus
Or stop staring at pixelated boobs.
When I died in Mario Sunshine it was always my own fault, so this isn't the reason...
Post by: KDR_11k on November 26, 2005, 09:44:36 AM
Post by: ruby_onix on November 26, 2005, 01:15:00 PM
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IMO, it would've been much easier if the camera didn't...
Didn't you know? Nintendo is too poor to be able to afford to make games of reasonable depth/length/quality, so they're all either really easy and short, or they artificially inflate them by making them unreasonably difficult. They have no choice in the matter.
If you don't like it, go enjoy the works of the people making real money, like Naughty Dog and Insomniac, because all the other Nintendo fanboys (in their ever shrinking numbers) are very happy with the situation as it is.
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Post by: RABicle on November 26, 2005, 03:58:29 PM
Post by: KDR_11k on November 26, 2005, 09:18:15 PM
Post by: nickmitch on November 27, 2005, 09:36:51 AM
Once you got that down, you loose all camera problems.
Post by: ThePerm on November 27, 2005, 09:42:21 AM
Post by: King of Twitch on November 27, 2005, 02:29:13 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 27, 2005, 02:36:56 PM
Daisy gets eagles.
Post by: King of Twitch on November 27, 2005, 02:50:26 PM
Post by: KDR_11k on November 27, 2005, 08:28:14 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 28, 2005, 10:47:54 AM
Tho the Peach-panty-shot is difficult to achieve.
OK! that's next on the screenshot agenda.
Post by: Hostile Creation on November 28, 2005, 07:23:10 PM
