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Title: Wii is 2 years old
Post by: BeautifulShy on November 19, 2008, 01:57:32 AM
Well it has been two years since Wii launched at took the world by storm.ITT I would like to hear your launch stories and what Wii games you have purchased in the time the Wii has been out.
My story of getting the Wii is full of excitement,disappointment, and euphoria.
It was about a month before the Wii came out and I remember getting excited!I didn't have enough money for the Wii at launch.So I picked up my preorder of Red Steel at launch.Black Friday rolled around I had enough.So I walked down to Target at 5:00am and looked for one.No luck there. I took the bus and went to Walmart and it was the same story as Target.Gamestop was close so I went there.They sold their last Wii about 30 min before. Undeterred I went to Best Buy.By this time it was about 11:30 am so it was getting late for BF shopping.I had no luck there or at Circuit City. On my way back I looked in another Target.No Luck.I got home and I was disappointed. Nearby I found out that someone was selling a Wii.They wanted $325 for it so I had some money to make. Finally when I made the money one of my friends handled it and I was under the impression that I would have a Wii soon. After about a week or so I wanted to find out where my Wii was.So I got to talking with my friend and it turns out this guy had gotten arrested for drug charges after my money went to this guy that had my Wii.Needless to say I was mad.I would have to continue my search for a Wii.So I called up all of the stores I went to on Black Friday in the days and weeks after.I tried everyday till I found out that Gamestop was getting shipments at 1:00 on December 1st.He told me that Fed Ex would bring some in the next shipment So I was excited!As I was reaching the mall where Gamestop was located I saw a Fed Ex truck and a UPS truck.I was in the backseat so I squeezed my self out and ran towards Gamestop. When I arrived I told the associate about the trucks that I seen. It turns out that FedEx was for the PS3 and UPS was Wii. I was waiting intently for my Wii.I got one Finally! As I looked at my receipt I saw the name Nick. I first thought about St.Nick.It was a Christmas miracle.:)
In the time after I got my Wii I have gotten. Trauma Center:SO,MKA,MP3:Corruption,No More Heroes,Castle of Shikigami 3,Okami,Boom Blox,Zack&Wiki,Elebits,RE4:Wii Edition,SNK Arcade Classics:Vol 1,Samba De Amigo,Mario Kart Wii,Mario Super Sluggers,Zelda:TP,RE:The Umbrella Chronicles,Super Mario Galaxy,Mario&Sonic,SSBB and TOS:Dawn of the New World.
Title: Re: Wii is 2 years old
Post by: ShyGuy on November 19, 2008, 04:17:48 AM
I think Capcom should give the Wii something nice for its birthday. Something like a port of RE5
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Post by: KDR_11k on November 19, 2008, 04:31:56 AM
I remember the launch day. I went to the train station early to be there for the first stores opening in the nearby city but then I started thinking about it some more, decided that the only game I wanted, Zelda TP, was better on the GC (camera controls!) so I just went back home. A week later or so my father played a demo of Wii Sports boxing and decided we need to buy a Wii so he paid the preorder money (50€) for the next batch. I think we got the Wii a day or two later.
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Post by: Infernal Monkey on November 19, 2008, 04:58:33 AM
Stood outside Myer on launch day, there was a large crowd. I was talking to this guy about vidya games. Store opens, most of the crowd rush over to the CD section. Turns out Myer had a promotion where the first 100 of some...one's new album came with a free ticket to see their live show.
So, there were six of us there at launch for the Wii. Myer had no idea what we were talking about, they never even bothered to unpack the Wii's, games or accessories in advance so we had to wait around for about half an hour. Then I bought the Wii with Zelda, Rayman, Monkey Ball and Wii Play.
Played Zelda for a few hours, ended up selling it about two weeks later. Monkey Ball and Rayman are no longer with the living either. Only Wii Play remains from launch! Wii Sports was so incredible though, God damn. I have enjoyed many vidya games on the Wii.
- BIG DAMN TRUCKS - Kororinpa - Boom Blox - Ghost Squad - Disaster: Day of Crisis - de Blob - Eledees - No More Heroes - House of the Dead 2&3 Return - Williams Pinball Hall of Fame - Mario Kart Wii - NiGHTS: JoD - Wii Sports - Bomberman Blast - Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games - Gottlieb Pinball Classics - Alien Crush Returns - Lost Winds - Toki Tori - Resident Evil: UC - Super Mario Galaxy - Oneechanbara Revolution - Wario Land: Shake Dimension - Endless Ocean - Virtual Console opening the doors to the likes of the TG-16 which was never released here. Also Sin & Punishment
Not bad for a console with no games.
Title: Re: Wii is 2 years old
Post by: MaleficentOgre on November 19, 2008, 07:26:08 AM
I got mine on launch day and it's easily been my favorite console of this generation. I'm really enthused by the number of fun games there are on the system. I'm also glad it's blowing everything else out of the water sales wise so hardcore gamers get their panties all wadded up. I hope wii fit and animal crossing sell five millions plus copies and Wii Pro Nails Shoppe comes out next year and sells another couple million.
Title: Re: Wii is 2 years old
Post by: TheFleece on November 19, 2008, 08:01:25 AM
I got mine in March of 07 when people were going crazy for the system. I didn't want to get ripped off so I went to the Nintendo Store (plus they were the only ones who had it) and stood online for three hours. This was a unique situation because it was a Monday morning and I was still sore from getting punched out at a performance gone wrong. There was also a nor easter passing through so I stood outside in the pouring rain with a black eye. I ended up getting Zelda along with the system. I called out from work for the next few days and enjoyed it. What's real funny is that when I was setting it up the cat watched the pointer for a good two hours. Cats love the Wii!
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Post by: EasyCure on November 19, 2008, 10:59:02 AM
I've probably told this story a million times so heres the short version, just to share it with Maxi and any other new readers.
I got mine on launch day, though I didn't think i would cuz of the crazy day I had...
I wake up early, drive to the train and hop on it to get to Manhattan for work, which i had to be at extra early. I was working at the Nintendo World Store, and being the Wii launch and all they needed every employee possible and as early as possible. Now I don't remember the time I had to be there, or anything like that but I DO remember the words i uttered when i walked up to 48th St. "Holy ****".
I knew that being the Nintendo World Store on Wiis launch day there'd be a line but i didnt expect anything so freaking massive. It was almost as big a shock as meeting Reggie a few days prior. I get to work and they have me doing a few different things; unpackaging bags and setting them upen next to the register so the cashiers could move the lines faster, or they'd have me unpacking Wii's from the shipment boxes and moving them out to the sales floor. The best thing they had me do was go outside and work the line. Take a count of how many people there were up to a certain point so we knew the cut off, so sadly everyone after that point wouldnt get a wii since we'd be sold out. I remember not even being cold though the temperatures were freezing out, but being close to so many nintendo fans (and you knew who they were) and just the excitement of being part of the launch was keeping me warm. I walked around talking to fans, answering questions for parents, meeting tons of new people. It was freaking awesome to say the least.
After that morning rush ended, it was back to normal and my job was simple: WiiSports gaurdian; basically i'd show people how to play, and was getting paid for it. Tons o' fun! At the end of the day there were a few wii's left over for the employees that pre-ordered... i wasn't one of them. In fact i had no preorder anywhere because NWR suggested pre-ordering would be useless, that thered be tons of wii's for everyone. Oh well. I did pick up Zelda and Red Steel at the end of my shift, with my small discount there.
Earlier in the day I'd called my mom and told her to keep an eye out for a Wii if she was out shopping, if she saw one to pick it up and i'd pay her back. I was very casual about the whole thing because i thought it'd be easy to get a wii, again because NWR said so. I'm glad my mom was able to find one (two actually!) cuz obviously NWR was wrong. When i got home my wii was waiting for me, i made my Mii all giddy (even though i'd made dozens at work) and played some wiisports (even though i was burnt out on the game from playing it so much at work! lol). I didnt get to play zelda till that weekend after, but its ok cuz.. yep, you guessed it.. i also played that at work!
I'm too lazy to list the games i've gotten since then. I'll edit this later to include it though, maybe.
Title: Re: Wii is 2 years old
Post by: NWR_Lindy on November 19, 2008, 09:22:39 PM
Ridiculously epic.
Part I: http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/specialArt.cfm?artid=12513
Part II: http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/specialArt.cfm?artid=12514
Title: Re: Wii is 2 years old
Post by: ThePerm on November 19, 2008, 10:59:40 PM
nintendo has been a successful casual gamer company for 2 years
Title: Re: Wii is 2 years old
Post by: KnowsNothing on November 19, 2008, 11:37:28 PM
BIG DAMN TRUCKS
Best game on Wii.
Title: Re: Wii is 2 years old
Post by: BeautifulShy on November 20, 2008, 12:17:44 AM
Has anybody done anything to commemorate the 2nd birthday of the Wii?Like replaying the games you got at launch or anything else?
Title: Re: Wii is 2 years old
Post by: BeautifulShy on November 20, 2008, 01:25:12 AM
Anything that has happened in the 2 years of Wii's launch date is fair game. So talk about whatever you want.
Title: Re: Wii is 2 years old
Post by: Infernal Monkey on November 20, 2008, 02:30:45 AM
nintendo has been a successful casual gamer company for 2 years
The NES launched two years ago? Whoa!
Title: Re: Wii is 2 years old
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on November 20, 2008, 12:02:10 PM
Here's the original Wii GET thread (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=18390.0). There are some fun memories in there, all right.
Title: Re: Wii is 2 years old
Post by: decoyman on November 20, 2008, 01:22:43 PM
Ah, good memories.
And for some NOT-SO-GOOD memories, here's the Wii FAIL-GET thread (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=18409.0), which is almost as fun as the Wii GET thread UPB just posted.
edit: Man, there's a lot of angst in that thread. BEWARE!! But we can all laugh about it now, right? ...Right?? :P
Title: Re: Wii is 2 years old
Post by: vudu on November 20, 2008, 02:25:54 PM
Aside #1: Bear in mind that she could have told us this information several minutes earlier, because it was blatantly obvious what we were we had lined up to get. Instead, she chose to make us watch her get a Starbucks, unlock the door, turn on everything in the store, and take her sweet time doing it. All the while she knew that she had no consoles. That’s TERRIBLE customer service, folks, and EB Games/GameStop will never get another dime of my considerable gaming budget because of it. Their entire chain is dead to me. There are plenty of places where I can buy games without having to deal with rude, inconsiderate, and unfriendly employees.
Title: Re: Wii is 2 years old
Post by: Ian Sane on November 20, 2008, 03:21:33 PM
While it doesn't feel weird for the Wii to be two years old it does feel weird to me that I've now owned it for well over a year. I got Super Mario Galaxy for Christmas last year and yet the Wii itself seems like a new addition to my house.
I got the Wii shortly before Metroid Prime 3 came out so summer 2007 I guess. I didn't have any interest in the Wii at launch since I have a Gamecube and didn't need to drop a few hundred bucks to get new hardware to play Twilight Princess. I ended up getting the Wii pretty much once I was able to find one. Superstore got some in one day and I hesitated in getting one. At that point there still wasn't anything released yet I was interested in. Well a few days later they didn't have it anymore so I decided that with Metroid due in the pipeline I best take the next opportunity I got, otherwise I might be stuck. So for the next month or so when I was in Superstore doing my grocery shopping I would alway check the electronics section just in case. When I found a Wii I don't recall it being a routine grocery shopping trip. I recall going there for one quick emergency item and ended up coming back with a Wii. It was very different then my Gamecube purchase which was calculated and had months of anticipation. That week I had no idea I would buy a Wii and didn't care if I did or not. It was just "better get this now for when Metroid comes out" and that was it. It was hardly on my mind at all. So it was weird to phone my brother out of the blue and tell him I had a Wii. He thought that was pretty cool.
I think things have gone by so fast just because 2007 and 2008 have gone by fast for me for personal reasons unrelated to videogames. I'm hoping by the time the Wii turns three it will have felt like it took a long time to get there.
Title: Re: Wii is 2 years old
Post by: Adrock on November 20, 2008, 06:06:14 PM
I've barely played the Wii in the almost 2 years since I bought it (I got Gamecrazy's 3rd shipment in early December). I only play through the current new game I buy then it sits and collects dust. I played the hell out of the N64 and Gamecube, though to be fair I was in junior high and high school resceptively. The only game that really impressed me was No More Heroes and I'm sorely disappointed in Brawl which was supposed to be my crack for the next 5 years.
Now, this isn't to say that I think a 360 or PS3 would've been better choices. I'd probably play them just as much if not less. Rather, it's the games. Nothing wows me though I still regularly buy games that look interesting and I have fun with them. Maybe, at the ripe old age of 24, I've grown spoiled, but I remember being floored by Ocarina of Time. Honestly, I've the most time into the DS and not just because I've had it longer.
Title: Re: Wii is 2 years old
Post by: Ian Sane on November 20, 2008, 07:46:48 PM
For me I don't spend as much time with the Wii as I did my Cube because for me a lot of Nintendo's big franchises have grown stale. Like the games are still good but, dammit, I've DONE this before. It's not that interesting anymore. However the new stuff is like Wii Fit and Wii Music which I care about even less. The "core games" seem to all be sequels. And I'm limited on third party games because the third party support sucks (though the third party games I do have all rock).
The Wii is LONG overdue for a big awesome new first party IP for core gamers. As far as I can tell no such game exists or has been announced. We need something new that's as special as Zelda and Mario. On the Gamecube Pikmin was this for me and on the N64 it was Rare's games. This is why the Conduit is getting so much hype, when it really wouldn't on another console. There just isn't anything like it on the Wii and though the genre is well established, it's a new IP and that's exciting.
I think Nintendo REALLY underestimates how exciting that is. Little Big Planet and Gears of War didn't exist last gen but when they were revealed Sony and MS owners went nuts. Now you can point out sales and say that Wii Fit crushes them all in sales and LBP was a bomb or whatever but sometimes you just have to throw your really devoted fans a bone and get them excited. It creates good will with your customers. It makes them feel like you care about pleasing them. And sometimes, like with Halo, that exciting new IP becomes a huge franchise of its own. This whole "Nintendo is neglecting the core" attitude exists because Nintendo hasn't done that yet. When they try to impress us they bust out a 20 year old franchise that gets less exciting with every sequel. And when they show something brand new and they sound really excited about it it's a non-game. Franchise games feel like a token effort. "Crank out a new Mario sports game and that'll shut them up." They'll always be "lol casualtendo!" until they routinely make new AAA material for core gamers.
Title: Re: Wii is 2 years old
Post by: ThePerm on November 20, 2008, 07:48:51 PM
2007 and 2008 have gone annoyingly fast
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Post by: Mario on November 20, 2008, 07:52:29 PM
Ian, Nintendo did exactly that with Disaster, but nobody bought it, so they probably aren't going to try again.
Title: Re: Wii is 2 years old
Post by: BeautifulShy on November 20, 2008, 08:02:28 PM
Ian do YOU have a idea for a game that fits your criteria?
Title: Re: Wii is 2 years old
Post by: Deguello on November 20, 2008, 08:36:44 PM
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I think Nintendo REALLY underestimates how exciting that is. Little Big Planet and Gears of War didn't exist last gen but when they were revealed Sony and MS owners went nuts.
Well that's just wrong. Nobody owned a 360 when Gears of War was revealed in August 2005. And Little Big Planet started off as some kind of Home download toy that had to be converted to a full disc game because Sony didn't have much else and were failing pretty fast. Sony said they were aiming that game towards the casuals anyway, but then suddenly it became a "hardcore bone" or whatever. It's funny that you bring up Halo, because Halo is about to be milked out as a series. I guess it'll have to be 20 years old before it gets "stale."
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Franchise games feel like a token effort. "Crank out a new Mario sports game and that'll shut them up." They'll always be "lol casualtendo!" until they routinely make new AAA material for core gamers.
And, in case you missed their October conference, Nintendo threw several bones, in the form of Punch-out, Some swordy game called Dynamic Slash, Cosmic Walker, Beautiful Ocean, Sin and Punishment 2. Particularly Punch-out, a game with more cameo appearances than actual games, has many people very excited, despite being a "20-year old franchise." These are all games not intended for the stereotypical Grandma Gamer and you conveniently don't mention them because they obliterate this ridiculous strawman argument. Quit trying to be a demagogue for people that do not agree with you. Seriously. Stop.
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Post by: mantidor on November 20, 2008, 09:50:32 PM
Ian, Nintendo did exactly that with Disaster, but nobody bought it, so they probably aren't going to try again.
If they just shift the marketing money for WiiMusic to Disaster it might have sold better
It would sell better than Wii music anyway :P
The wii, well I've never bought so many games for a console in its first two year lifespan, then again only just a year ago I had a moderately decent income for the first time in my life. I like the console but I feel its potential at this point will never be tapped. It will happen sadly too late and too close to the launch of wii 2 with whatever Zelda or Mario or something Nintendo does next, because third parties are stupid. I say overall I'm actually dissapointed. And is everyone's fault, from gamers to third parties to Nintendo themselves, but it has been ok anyway.
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on November 20, 2008, 10:03:59 PM
PS3 owners really didn't go nuts for LBP at launch. Sales are average at best for it.
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Post by: Chozo Ghost on November 21, 2008, 12:04:45 AM
2007 and 2008 are years that went by so fast for all of us, because those were years we spent playing with our Wiis. As the saying goes, time flys when you're having fun. What could be more fun than a little Wii Play? :)
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Post by: IceCold on November 21, 2008, 01:39:57 AM
Super Mario Galaxy is one of the best games I've ever played, and that's more than enough for me to love my Wii.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 21, 2008, 04:45:02 AM
Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World is the new game I can play for the rest of the generation.
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Post by: KDR_11k on November 21, 2008, 04:55:49 AM
Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World is the new game I can play for the rest of the generation.
I would have to agree Pro. I am not done with it yet but with the monster collecting aspect of it. I think you could craft tons and tons of combonations. Figuring everybody's story out in relation to the original.
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Post by: Spak-Spang on November 21, 2008, 12:15:24 PM
I got my Wii on November 18th for my Birthday. My party was running around trying to get a line to buy one, and every line was too long and the stores already commented on not having enough.
So resigned to just finish the party at my house with my friends...and my best friend since elementary school stayed over. I woke up early around 6:00am or 7:00am and jumped in my car driving around again. The line at target was too long, and the line at Best Buy was even worse. I heard that Circuit City had Wiis, and there was no line. So I drove up there, and a guy standing out in front of the store was giving out vouchers for the Wiis they had. I literally got the LAST voucher, no lie...and so I took the treasure home with me, and slept another hour and a half, because the store didn't open til 9:00am.
I bought Super Monkey Ball, Twilight Princess, and Excite Truck. Unfortunately Super Monkey Ball was a huge disappointment, but it did fill a multiplayer party game gap for awhile. Sega just screwed up on the controls of the main game.
Twilight Princess was a great game I loved, and Excite Truck was a good filler game.
Now I have: Twilight Princess, Mario Galaxy, Brawl, Excite Truck, about 30 Virtual console/Wii Ware games, Zak and Wiki, Geometry Wars, Guilty Gear, Boom Bloks and a few more.
I have loved my Wii, and I can't wait for several more years of Wii goodness.
Title: Re: Wii is 2 years old
Post by: Mario on November 21, 2008, 12:38:42 PM
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Unfortunately Super Monkey Ball was a huge disappointment, but it did fill a multiplayer party game gap for awhile. Sega just screwed up on the controls of the main game.
WTF, I feel the exact opposite, main game is AWESOME, good solid controls and amazing music and levels, while the majority of the multiplayer games were an unplayable mess. Regarding the controls after lots of time with the game I was seriously doing zen-like things with it just by instinct I could never do in the original two SMBs, though maybe the jump helped add that wow factor. I got it a few weeks after Wii came out with Red Steel and I had amazing fun with both. Lots of late nights playing Banana Blitz, mastering the levels and getting insane replays, and Red Steel was an awesome experience. The games I got at launch though were Wii Play, Sports and Zelda. Amazing times. Wii is like something i'd pull out of one of my dreams and say "I want this to exist", but it's real.
Title: Re: Wii is 2 years old
Post by: Ian Sane on November 21, 2008, 01:50:08 PM
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Ian, Nintendo did exactly that with Disaster, but nobody bought it, so they probably aren't going to try again.
What? A game that isn't even announced for North America? This is the big new IP from Nintendo that's supposed to convince me Nintendo isn't neglecting core gamers? Nobody bought it? How the hell could we? It hasn't been released yet! Japan may not have bought it but Japan's tastes in games now SUCKS anyway and North America gamers shouldn't be punished because the Japanese market no longer has any taste.
On the horizon we've got Punch-Out (sequel) and Sin & Punishment 2 (sequel) and then a bunch of stuff that probably won't ever leave Japan and on the Cube would be considered B level territory at best. I'm excited about those sequels but I want something new and I want it to be one of Nintendo's big AAA titles for the year. And from the Nintendo devs that MATTER like Retro, Intelligent Systems or EAD not the b-teams like Skip or N-Space. You guys must know the difference between a major release and a minor one. Why Super Mario Galaxy is a big deal but Captain Rainbow isn't. And it isn't because one's a sequel and one isn't. I'm talking GOTY candidate stuff vs. rental.
If Miyamoto revealed some new IP he created and it was clearly targetted at core gamers and it was going to be Nintendo's big release of the year it would show to me that Nintendo actually cares about more than the blue ocean group. I want it so that if I discount the non-gamer stuff the release schedule of the core gamer first pary games is identical to the Cube's before Nintendo abruptly abandoned it for its last two years. You can't possibly look at this barren Christmas season for the Wii and tell me that the core gamer release schedule has been unaffected by their focus on non-gamers.
Title: Re: Wii is 2 years old
Post by: Spak-Spang on November 21, 2008, 04:06:41 PM
Unfortunately Super Monkey Ball was a huge disappointment, but it did fill a multiplayer party game gap for awhile. Sega just screwed up on the controls of the main game.
WTF, I feel the exact opposite, main game is AWESOME, good solid controls and amazing music and levels, while the majority of the multiplayer games were an unplayable mess. Regarding the controls after lots of time with the game I was seriously doing zen-like things with it just by instinct I could never do in the original two SMBs, though maybe the jump helped add that wow factor. I got it a few weeks after Wii came out with Red Steel and I had amazing fun with both. Lots of late nights playing Banana Blitz, mastering the levels and getting insane replays, and Red Steel was an awesome experience. The games I got at launch though were Wii Play, Sports and Zelda. Amazing times. Wii is like something i'd pull out of one of my dreams and say "I want this to exist", but it's real.
Oh the multiplayer games controls were horrible...but there were some great games that were playable. Monkey Wars, The Hang Gliding game and such.
But, it hurt my wrist to play the main game. I don't know why Sega didn't just let you hold the controller in the classic controller position. 2 hands for more stability, and no need to twist your wrist. I really love the main game of Monkey Ball, and bought the game for that...but the controls were horrible.
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Post by: Infernal Monkey on November 22, 2008, 02:32:58 AM
Quote from: Ian Sane
What? A game that isn't even announced for North America? This is the big new IP from Nintendo that's supposed to convince me Nintendo isn't neglecting core gamers?
Is it? I thought it was a video game. Import it and shut up, you cry baby.
Title: Re: Wii is 2 years old
Post by: Adrock on November 22, 2008, 03:01:22 AM
You can't possibly look at this barren Christmas season for the Wii and tell me that the core gamer release schedule has been unaffected by their focus on non-gamers.
Mary, mother of Jesus, man..... this again? Nintendo isn't neglecting core gamers because they have released more of their own core games within the same time frame than they did on the Gamecube. See, I don't buy this "focusing on non-gamers" nonsense because the way I see it, Nintendo is releasing everything we've come to expect Nintendo to release in addition to more casual affair like Wii Fit.
And 3rd party support is better. On Gamecube, publishers might as well have just released empty boxes, all 7 of those games. Sure, there's a ton of crap out on the Wii from 3rd parties, but there's a ton of crap on 360 and PS3. Boobs and violence don't make crappy games suddenly not crappy anymore. The ratio of good to bad games on each system are probably pretty close. I only fault the Wii lineup for its abundance of last generation ports (which have slowly become less frequent) and even then, a good game is still a good game. I'm glad that, for example, Okami was released on the Wii.
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Post by: Infernal Monkey on November 22, 2008, 03:26:50 AM
Eh, don't bother, Adrock. Ian's got his trolling down pretty damn well. He baits with the same thing every single thread, no matter what it's actually about. He can derail anything. Then he'll proceed to ignore the replies he quotes and copy+paste his initial post. Endless loops.
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Post by: Chozo Ghost on November 23, 2008, 02:09:58 AM
On the horizon we've got Punch-Out (sequel) and Sin & Punishment 2 (sequel) and then a bunch of stuff that probably won't ever leave Japan and on the Cube would be considered B level territory at best.
We have a lot more than that on the horizon, Ian. Haven't you realized by now that studios are constantly working on stuff? Nintendo doesn't just pay them to sit around and shoot nerf balls at each other. When a studio like Retro wraps things up with an AAA title like Metroid, they immediately switch gears and begin work on something new. Just because stuff hasn't been announced doesn't mean its not on the horizon. The problem is video games take months or years to develop, so give it time.
Title: Re: Wii is 2 years old
Post by: KDR_11k on November 23, 2008, 02:48:52 AM
Well, the games Ian hates so much take less than a year to develop but he's not going to buy anything that takes less than two anyway.
Title: Re: Wii is 2 years old
Post by: Mario on November 23, 2008, 04:39:36 AM
I think we should all do an Ian and use selective posting, quoting and reading, and skip all his posts.
Title: Re: Wii is 2 years old
Post by: EasyCure on November 23, 2008, 06:20:19 PM
see what you started Maxi..
Title: Re: Wii is 2 years old
Post by: BeautifulShy on November 23, 2008, 09:04:37 PM
I will keep that in mind Mario.
Any more stories of how you got the Wii? Also what games have you played on Wii?Also have you gotten someone to purchase a Wii?
Title: Re: Wii is 2 years old
Post by: EasyCure on November 23, 2008, 09:13:24 PM
Any more stories of how you got the Wii? Also what games have you played on Wii?Also have you gotten someone to purchase a Wii?
Nope. My story was cut and dry. I did get my gf a wii for her birthday this past August, along with wii fit since she liked playing mine (and i liked watching.. mmm) but that wasn't hard at all. I walked into a GS one day after work cuz its the closest place that sold one, asked if they had a Wii, which they did but no Wii Fit. The latter i ended up getting the next week, with a similar story: walk in, ask, paid for it. No hassle.
In the two years after release i have more games for my Wii then i ever had during my Cubes lifespan. To be fair, i think my GC collection is still technically bigger, but thats because i keep picking up some used games every now and again, stuff i missed out on the first time around. Thats even with a few games i sold (in order to get new wii games:)), but those were disposable titles i won't miss anyway (Tony Hawk games for instance).
Title: Re: Wii is 2 years old
Post by: BeautifulShy on November 23, 2008, 09:35:10 PM
I got 5 people to get a Wii. I had my Birthday party at a friends apartment complex. I brought over Mario Kart Wii, Brawl, and Super Mario Galaxy. I used Mario Kart to sell the controls. Lots of people wanted a Wii after they got their hands on it. Another group of friends are getting a Wii for Christmas.I recommended De Blob and Wii Music.I am also giving two of my GC games to them DDR:Mario Mix and Harvest Moon:Magical Melody.I don't play those that much and they would enjoy it more than I.
Title: Re: Wii is 2 years old
Post by: Ian Sane on November 24, 2008, 12:16:51 PM
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We have a lot more than that on the horizon, Ian. Haven't you realized by now that studios are constantly working on stuff?
Of course they're always working on stuff but if you don't know what they're working on how do you know if you can be excited about it? They might be working on the greatest game ever or it might be super lame non-gamer crap. There was a time I didn't know what EAD was working on and then it turned out to be... Wii Music. For all we know Retro is currently working on Metroid Prime 1 & 2 with remote controls and that's their next project. Anything after that is years away. Well that would certainly suck, wouldn't it? Or they could be working on something absolutely awesome and for the first time isn't related to Metroid. You never know and these days I can never assume any Nintendo dev is working on something worthwhile.
Title: Re: Wii is 2 years old
Post by: KDR_11k on November 24, 2008, 12:40:30 PM
Then get excited about the stuff that is announced rather than complaining that you don't see pictures of a half-running prototype. I'm pretty fucking certain you'd still complain if they just announced the name and you'd complain even more if they showed pictures from their current development build that will be seriously unfinished and unpresentable. Do you want a bunch of pictures with debug outputs and placeholder graphics? That'd just leave a bad first impression and make people hate the game before it's even done. First impressions are important, you can't just half-ass them to rush them out earlier. The game's far off, noone cares if you announce it a year or three months before release by the time it's out.
Also you are whining that you don't know everything a single, specific developer does. Perhaps you should look at the other developers that have announced something? I don't see you caring much about Dynamic Slash, for example (which is being made by Sandlot, a company that makes games that are just distilled awesome).
Title: Re: Wii is 2 years old
Post by: Ian Sane on November 24, 2008, 02:30:25 PM
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Also you are whining that you don't know everything a single, specific developer does. Perhaps you should look at the other developers that have announced something? I don't see you caring much about Dynamic Slash, for example (which is being made by Sandlot, a company that makes games that are just distilled awesome).
I don't care because Dynamic Slash sounds like small potatoes. It's made by a company I had to look up just now to even figure out who the hell they are. They've released only like two games in North America and those are obscure b-title at best. Odds are Dynamic Slash may not even be released here, much like Disaster. Obscure Japanses developer + no announcement regarding a US release = I don't care. Now if things change and we start finding out more info about it and it is annouced for US release then I'll pay more attention to it but for now I don't care.
My argument is merely that I don't see the big Nintendo "we give more than a token effort about the core" gesture and until Nintendo's big guns actually reveal what they're working on I'm not going to see it. I'm in a "show me" mood and if the best new IPs for core gamers you can show me are potentially import-only titles from minor devs, well that's not enough.
If Sony or MS fans were pointing to such laughably minor titles as big can't-miss games on the horizon you guys would make fun of them and justifiably so.
Title: Re: Wii is 2 years old
Post by: Adrock on November 24, 2008, 09:08:22 PM
Of course they're always working on stuff but if you don't know what they're working on how do you know if you can be excited about it?
Except that you do. For example, and by no means is this the only example....
Nintendo: We're working on a new Zelda game. Ian: What on earth are they working on? Nintendo: Zelda. Ian: How frustrating?! That could be anything.
Title: Re: Wii is 2 years old
Post by: Spak-Spang on November 24, 2008, 10:50:38 PM
How many years have I been here and Ian Sane says his opinion about Nintendo, mixed with some intelligent and sometimes not intelligent analysis and then we all bash Ian for bashing Nintendo.
It is such a cliche of this board that it should almost be a standard sitcom joke.
I almost here the canned laughter in the distance.
Title: Re: Wii is 2 years old
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 24, 2008, 11:01:20 PM
Somehow there's no webcomic yet.
Title: Re: Wii is 2 years old
Post by: Spak-Spang on November 24, 2008, 11:09:41 PM
NWR is not leet enough for web comic status.
Title: Re: Wii is 2 years old
Post by: KDR_11k on November 25, 2008, 04:04:33 AM
If Sony or MS fans were pointing to such laughably minor titles as big can't-miss games on the horizon you guys would make fun of them and justifiably so.
Like LBP?
You want hardcore titles, there's a big announcement of core games, you don't care and still whine about E3. Do you think the games at the October showing would have been closer to completion had they been paraded at E3 instead of Wii Music?
Title: Re: Wii is 2 years old
Post by: Infernal Monkey on November 25, 2008, 04:20:30 AM
How many years have I been here and Ian Sane says his opinion about Nintendo, mixed with some intelligent and sometimes not intelligent analysis and then we all bash Ian for bashing Nintendo.
It's more pity-bashing by everyone at this stage, I think. I mean, Ian makes up most of PGC/NWR's total forum posts, and he's complained and whinged about Nintendo in all of them. He's willingly wasted his free time for years now on something he obviously hates (Nintendo and video games in general). You've gotta feel sorry for the guy.
Title: Re: Wii is 2 years old
Post by: Urkel on November 25, 2008, 04:40:52 AM
Let's all chip in and buy him a PS3 and just get this over with.
Title: Re: Wii is 2 years old
Post by: Plugabugz on November 25, 2008, 04:44:27 AM
I love the fact that they mentioned two games for 2009 that they could have published themselves that could have helped even-out their family friendly image (by making it more of "something for everyone"). Well done nintendo.
Title: Re: Wii is 2 years old
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on November 25, 2008, 05:08:48 AM
Ian is just upset because he really want to Animal Crossing: City Folk but knows no one will come to his village. So he is :'(
Title: Re: Wii is 2 years old
Post by: KDR_11k on November 25, 2008, 06:05:42 AM
I love the fact that they mentioned two games for 2009 that they could have published themselves that could have helped even-out their family friendly image (by making it more of "something for everyone"). Well done nintendo.
I think they don't want to hog all the games, even if just as a publisher, to make third parties see that a good game sells. If all the good games are published by Nintendo then third parties will fail to see correlation and causation again and claim they succeeded because they were published by Nintendo, not because they were good.
Noone cares about "teh kiddy" anymore, now Nintendo is "teh granny". Third parties are more concerned about core games not selling than mature games not selling (which are a sub-branch of core games as most people who aren't part of the core market find the idea of virtually killing people abhorrent). This is much worse for them since while mature was a marketting gimmick, core is a design philosophy and they have no idea how to change their philosophy because it means suddently everything they knew was good is no longer valid and might even hurt the game. It's probably much easier for someone new to gaming to design a new market game than someone who has been part of gaming for so long that its conventions and goals seem natural and unquestionable.
Title: Re: Wii is 2 years old
Post by: Chozo Ghost on November 25, 2008, 07:52:41 AM
