Topic: Game Journalism

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

Opening post has been updated with...
>> http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=30478.msg581036#msg581036

~ THQ ~

THQ, you've gone thru some tough times... NOW I CAN SEE WHY.  You are oh-so-dependent on your licenses; the rest your efforts (and lack of) can be summed up as "make-believe," or "wishful thinking."  Should've been making things happen instead of dreaming?

I think I was a bit generous with ^this^ Wall piece, though I'm unable to articulate how it is so.  By now I believe we've established a template for generating a 3rd Party Wii game library.  Such is herein as follows per justice:

1.  Start off with Zoo Games' Wii library.
2.  Add a handful of "major" "licenses."
3.  Add at least one "major" semi-"original" "brand" or "property."
4.  Microwave on HIGH for 9 minutes.
5.  Let stand in microwave for 1 minute.  Be careful when handling, turds may be steaming hot.

TA-DA!!  3RD PARTY SUPPORT!



Coming Soon...

~ Majesco ~

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

Opening post has been updated with...
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~ Majesco ~

I'd like to think of Majesco as an "underdog" company, but their library makes them look like any other 3rd party, just on a smaller scale.

Can you find the needle in this haystack?

Will the pain stop?



Coming Soon...

~ EVERYONE ELSE? ~

[King of Twitch]

I laughed, facepalmed, then cried at the Cold Stone game... but FIVE Spongebob games? 

You know what can make this situation better?


3d glasses

[KDR_11k]

In some stores there's even a special sticker for marking down THQ shovelware...

[Stratos]

Remember when we got cool mascot games like Cool Spot? I recall that being a decent platformer.

A friend of mine had that for the Sega Genesis. I recall liking it, though I can't remember anything specific about it. Honestly, I don't really understand where these licence games come from. Are there people out there who like M&M's and make some sort of connection that a game based on their favourite candy would be fun?

I read a review for the M&Ms adventure game on Amazon that talked about how the person was a long time M&Ms collector so that was why he bought it primarily but he had also hoped for a cute Super Mario Brothers clone and was sorely dissapointed in how the game actually played. There were even some reviews where parents mentioned their children (of all sorts of ages) found the game to frustration and difficult to play. It failed at hitting any target market right.

[Mop it up]

Good ol' THQ. They've put out a few gems over their many years of existence, but they also published quite a few questionable games as well. Of their Wii games, I own just de Blob and think it's a great game. The only other one of theirs I'm interested in trying is Deadly Creatures. Looking at the wall with no knowledge of those two games, I doubt I'd be able to pick them out as something I'd want to buy.

From Majesco, I have Cooking Mama World Kitchen, which is an adorable little game. A Boy and His Blob is about the only game there I plan to buy, though I'm kind of curious about Blast Works. I don't think I would want the other Cooking Mama game as it looks pretty similar.

[MoronSonOfBoron]

I love how we have an entire thread devoted to Kairon's porn stash.

[Chozo Ghost]

Kairon is helping to bring about the second gaming crash.

[BlackNMild2k1]

I love how we have an entire thread devoted to Kairon's porn stash.

Maybe you can help it keep going. Go grab a random Wii game from his collection and tell us who it is made by, and then we can add that company to the Wall of Shame too.

[Caliban]

This [3rd Party Wall of Shame] is why I think the Nintendo Seal of Quality should come back. If a 3rd party game is good it gets the Nintendo Seal of Quality. People see the Nintendo Seal of Quality and they will buy the good 3rd party games. Publishers are somewhat happy now because they too can sell games... as long as a Nintendo Seal of Quality is on the cover.

[Mop it up]

That seal is still there on the back of every game case, but all it means is the same as it has always meant: the game is licenced to run on Nintendo's system without causing problems, such as crashing it, wiping save data, etc.

[UncleBob]

Yes and no.

The seal is no longer a "Seal of Quality" - merely the "Official Nintendo Seal".  As you said, it means the same thing either way.

Perhaps, what is needed, is a "This item is Licensed and Approved by Nintendo" and a "This item meets Nintendo's standards of quality".  But third parties would cry at having to submit their titles for judging by Nintendo.  And hard core fans would have fits if Wii Music was considered to meet any kind of quality standards.

[ShyGuy]

Wow, EA is probably the best of the 3rd parties out there, but I recuse myself from judging their sports games. About five decent games, wouldn't mind trying 2-3 more.

Zoo is just hideous. HIDEOUS

THQ has deadly creatures and.... uh..... welp.

edit: Okay, maybe THQ has 3 more games that I would try.

[Kairon]

And hard core fans would have fits if Wii Music was considered to meet any kind of quality standards.

Let them cry.

[noname2200]

I'm calling it. Unless Nintendo moneyhats extensively, the Wall o' Shame is just going to grow even crappier.

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

You want growth?  I'll give you GROWTH

[noname2200]

You want growth?  I'll give you GROWTH

No need, your boys in the OP have got it covered.

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

And hard core fans would have fits if Wii Music was considered to meet any kind of quality standards.

Let them cry.

LET THEM CRY.  THEIR TEARS ONLY MAKE THE BLUE OCEAN DEEPER.

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

Opening post has been updated with...
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~ Sega ~

HRMMMMMMMMMMM... The least bad of the worst, if that's anything to brag about.  Sega tries, yet they don't.  Their most successful title(s) are actually Wii Sports derivatives.  Huh.


~ Konami ~

Got your bread & butter song & dance titles, plus some footsie ball.  Beyond those, Konami wants to be known for Wii Sports knockoffs, intentional kiddeh titles, and TARGET TERRORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR.  The plan was to make more of that stuff in case any of them succeeded, apparently.  Typically.  Unsurprisingly.  As usual.  Dammit, 3rd Parties.

This is the family Silent Hill: Shattered Memories was born into?


~ Take Two ~

Way to go, relying on sports license abuse that competes with EA's own.  The rest are largely vistors from the PLANET MEH.  Do any games seem to be worth working on or nurturing without those Grand Theft Auto-sized budgets?  Hmm?


~ Namco-Bandai ~

Despite hitting the ground running with a WAGGLE SPINOFF, it's suprising they haven't done much (nor localized much).  They're sorta all over the place without specializing in anything (is Zoo Games the undisputed KING of Wii racing games?).  A peculiar kind of lazy.


~ Capcom ~

good port, rail shooter, bad port, old port, old port, rail shooter, old port, stuff stuff stuff... oh my gosh, is Capcom lazier than NAMCO?


~ Square-Enix ~

1.  An on-rails spinoff NINTENDO MADE FOR THEM
2.  Some other spinoff
3.  A DEE-ESS PORT OF A SPINOFF
4.  A too-little-too-late spinoff of a SPINOFF

It's obvious that Square-Enix... DOESN'T GIVE A ****.



Salvation...?

~ The Nintendo Wall of Glory ~

[broodwars]

Actually, looking over the output from Square-Enix and Capcom, they don't come off all that badly (or to put it more precisely "they come off better than everyone else in this topic").  As for Square-Enix, I don't see any "bad" games in there.  I've played both Dragon Quest Swords and Chocobo's Mystery Dungeon, and they're both good games.  I've never played Echoes of Time or Crystal Bearers, but they both reviewed at least decently from what I remember. 

[ShyGuy]

Majesco is sadly crap. I BLAME KAIRON

Hmm, Sega has some decent titles in the mix about 5-6 good ones.

Some one needs to put Konami out of their misery.

Take Two has Bully and.... a lot of meh to ugh. Heavy on the ugh.

Namco-Bandia has more than I figured, about 3-4.

Capcom probably has the best good to crap ratio, but they don't seem to make shovelware. Instead they make ports!

Square Enix is the Dragon Quest/Final Fantasy company. They refuse to do anything else.

Hey Pro! What about 3rd parties that already died and joined a borg collective? like Sierra and Vivendi and Tecmo and I can't keep them all straight. Also, who published Ninjabread Man?

[broodwars]

I'm actually surprised that Square-Enix hasn't used the Wii as a testing ground for franchises they don't do much with, like Valkyrie Profile; Suikoden; and Ogre Battle.  They can make a sequel to any of those franchise for relatively little money on Wii and probably get a decent turnaround while keeping the IPs fresh.  Hell, I'm still amazed they've yet to take advantage of the Wii audience and put ****ing Kingdom Hearts on the Wii.  It never made sense that they never put that series on the GameCube, and it makes even less sense that they haven't brought it to the Wii.

[Stratos]

Well, Ogre Battle 64 has been rated in both PAL and NA regions so maybe when that comes out and if it sells well we will see a new one on Wii?

[broodwars]

Well, Ogre Battle 64 has been rated in both PAL and NA regions so maybe when that comes out and if it sells well we will see a new one on Wii?

One can only hope, and if so we'd better see one in the style of OB64.  None of that "Tactics" BS, thank you very much.

[Nemo]

~ Square-Enix ~

1.  An on-rails spinoff NINTENDO MADE FOR THEM

ummm... what?