Topic: Switch Discussion Thread (Year 3: But where are the folders??!?!)

[Nile Boogie Returns]

This is the Morpheus x300. It is the exact same concept as the Switch. Its's also older and already released.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfmBysrZ2v8


Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y845oUAxrPY

[ThePerm]

So its a morphus x300 with OUYA color scheme?

[ThePerm]

Also, lets speculate. I imagine the tablet will incrementally upgrade. 2 years from release we might switch to a beefier tablet in the dock and then use the old controller like a wii u controller.

[Soren]

http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/10/20/nintendo-confirms-amiibo-support-for-nintendo-switch-clarifies-additional-features

- amiibo support (no duh)
- No comment on touchscreen support.
- The guts of the system are inside the tablet screen

"The dock is not the main console unit of Nintendo Switch. The main unit of Nintendo Switch is the unit that has the LCD screen, which the two Joy-Con controllers can be attached to and detached from. The main function of the Nintendo Switch Dock is to provide an output to the TV, as well as charging and providing power to the system."

[Adrock]

I don't think that's so much speculation as it is an inevitability. I believe Iwata even hinted at that over the years. Our concept of hardware generations is likely over. Upgrading hardware won't be so rigid. Every couple years we'll get a spec bump. Sure, games will be compatible, but at some point, they'll stop playing as well on older iterations like 3DS. Games like Hyrule Warriors Legend and Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate just run smoother on New 3DS. We'll see the same on Switch which we're already seeing on PlayStation and Xbox.

Is that better? I don't know. I liked how I didn't have to worry about upgrading for like five years. However, the writing was on the wall. Dedicated gaming hardware can't keep up with PC, particularly handhelds like 3DS which was running 2000 level hardware on 240p resolution. That worked for Nintendo which, before 2016, only made games on its own hardware. For the rest of the game development community, developing on consoles was incredibly restrictive. And that includes Sony and Microsoft.

[Nile Boogie Returns]

Also, lets speculate. I imagine the tablet will incrementally upgrade. 2 years from release we might switch to a beefier tablet in the dock and then use the old controller like a wii u controller.

We still have to wait on the SCD. If that's not the dock(it ain't), they can introduce that during the Spring 2018. If the specs are close enough to an Xbox One, which it the LCD that can run this generations Multi-Platforms then it wont get left out of the port market being that there should be about 10 million NX's in the wild within the next 18 months. The tablet should suffice with until early next decade.




Of course its a touch screen. Can't play Super Mario Maker with out it. (USB Mouse is really an option but no)

[stevey]

- NVIDIA Tegra confirmed (https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2016/10/20/nintendo-switch/)
- NVIDIA is creating the graphics API themselves.

Welp, I'm skipping a generation.

[Soren]

https://twitter.com/devolverdigital/status/789221519243157504


Digital Devolver says they'll release stuff for Switch in 2017.

[Spak-Spang]

My initial thoughts.  This is a big change and gamble for Nintendo.  Taking all the lessons they have learned in both the console and handheld market and putting them into one system is a pretty big and bold direction for Nintendo.

It allows Nintendo to focus on a single system for games and really emphasis what makes Nintendo different, there games and unique ways of playing.  It also seems future proof in that the tablet part could be upgraded every 3-4 years just like an Apple ipad.  We don't know if there is any hardware in the dock to help with upscaling and processing, but if there is, then the first upgrade for the system would probably just be to match what the dock does.  It also means gamers could more affordably upgrade their dock every once in awhile. 

If Nintendo has a winner with this system and it is popular then Nintendo could have created a sustainable infrastructure for upgradable hardware in both the portable and home market...and paying a slight premium for both experiences is still cheaper than buying two systems for both experiences.

Going with cards is interesting, because you wonder if Nintendo will continue to do downloaded games.  This could be where Nintendo once again cheaps out, with a smaller hard drive.  However, cards are durable easy to carry and retail and resale friendly so I am OK with that.  The Dock may also have some additional hard drive space and maybe you can store games on both.

The bad is simple, this system is easy to copy and as already mentioned something similar already exists.  This means Nintendo is going to need to push hard their new system with games, and boy did it appear that Nintendo was going to go big year one.  I think Nintendo realizes year one is a make it or break it year for this system.  And Year one looks to have Mario, Zelda, Mario Kart, and Splatoon right out of the gate.  I don't mean all launch titles, but all available in December.

Next year could equally be big because we have no idea what Retro has been working on (unless it was Mario Kart.) And we could see even more games in 2018 because by then Nintendo will be in full support of only a single system.  If Nintendo got it's out put to be 1 new game every 4 months and perhaps VC and Downloadable smaller games in the gaps, then it can support this system by themselves. 

Finally question mark is the controller, I am not sure I like the button placements, and I am hoping they created a way to make the stick work well with classic games.

[Oedo]

So far Nintendo is only committing to the Dock and Joy-Con L and R coming with the Switch; no clear answer on the Grip accessory being included. I'd be really surprised if it didn't come with every system.

[ThePerm]

I'm pretty sure the grip is mainly a battery.

[Oedo]

Oh boy, sounds like details may be scarce until the new year:

Nintendo: no more official announcement would come this year on 1) game titles 2) spec details, including region-lock status.

[Soren]

Welp, I will see you guys next year then.


That is a terrible strategy and they risk burning all the goodwill they earned today.

[Evan_B]

Morons.

[ShyGuy]

Hmm, the Nvidia blog states:

Nintendo Switch is powered by the performance of the custom Tegra processor. The high-efficiency scalable processor includes an NVIDIA GPU based on the same architecture as the world’s top-performing GeForce gaming graphics cards.

So if the processor is scalable, does that mean the CPU shifts into a higher clock speed when it is plugged into the dock? Laptops already do that to scale down for battery saving when not plugged in.

[Adrock]

Oh boy, sounds like details may be scarce until the new year:

Nintendo: no more official announcement would come this year on 1) game titles 2) spec details, including region-lock status.

Wait, there it is. There's Nintendo Nintendo-ing a great situation it Nintendo'd itself in. That was a close one. Nintendo almost did something completely right.

[Luigi Dude]

Well hopefully we might still get some more Zelda footage and details since that game is still technically a Wii U game, which is why they got away with showing it at E3.  I'd imagine that game should at least get something at the videogame awards in December since they showed that early footage at the event in 2014, so it'd be fitting to show footage from the actual final version again this year.

[Lemonade]

Are we guessing release dates? I say the 31st of March, just like the original 3DS (in Australia) and Miitomo.

[Spak-Spang]

Just because Nintendo tweeted today that there will not be anymore information until the end of the year, doesn't mean that decision will stick.  I expect Nintendo may actually give us more information, perhaps later in December.  But honestly, Nintendo needed to announce things, and they did. 

It is not Nintendo's style to reveal and talk about specs.  It is also not Nintendo's style to talk about games that won't be available to play until next year.  The cat is out of the bag, and we will definitely be getting more information.  I am sure Nintendo will be allowing media to play this thing...and talking about it.  Just wait and see. 

[MagicCow64]

Hrm, that news about no more news sure doesn't sound great. You'd think retailers would want those coming soon game boxes out sooner rather than later.

But they've kept a tight lid on the pressure cooker for many months, I'm guessing there will be a steady drip of leaks from here on out if nothing else.

[Adrock]

Just because Nintendo tweeted today that there will not be anymore information until the end of the year, doesn't mean that decision will stick.

Nah, it's going to stick. Otherwise, why tweet it at all? 

It is not Nintendo's style to reveal and talk about specs.

Maybe that's why it should this time.

It is also not Nintendo's style to talk about games that won't be available to play until next year.

Ehh, Nintendo does this all the time. For example, it announced Xenoblade Chronicles X in January 2013, nearly three years before finally releasing the game. Same goes for Breath of the Wild.

[Soren]

Hell, they just revealed a 3D Mario game that might be ready God knows when.

[TrueNerd]

For my entire conscious life, I've been very interested in buying the next new machine that allows me to play the new games made by Nintendo. The Switch is the next new machine, and I will happily buy it. New Tokyo EAD (or whatever that team is called these days) Mario is coming for it. I am hype.

I will probably use the Switch as a traditional home console at least 95% of the time that I use it. Portable mode, detachable controllers, I won't use those features outside of trips. I do almost all of my 3DS playing at home on my couch. And that's fine. Nintendo's not forcing me to do any of that stuff and that Pro controller looks great.

Getting outside of my own POV, that trailer was a home run, even if most of the scenarios shown were laughable. The messaging of the system is clear, that Switch noise is genius and should become as iconic as the Mario coin noise if Nintendo does it right, the trick of switching from dock mode to portable mode is almost magic, and there appears (for now) to be third party support. I'm also shocked the Switch looks like it really pulled off being at least on par with the Wii U on a mobile processor.

Nintendo learned all the right lessons from the failure of the Wii U. This is what the Wii U should have been. I think it has a real good chance of being a mainstream success which means Nintendo might wait a little longer before switching entirely to mobile development. And that's all I want.

[Nile Boogie Returns]

Noticed a something watching the video again.


The guy playing Skyrim on the plane is playing with a different model NX than all the others. If you notice his Switch on the plane has actual FCC information on both the Joy-con and the Tablet itself. The woman playing  Super Mario has no documentation on the back of hers.


Also, looking at the guy on the plane, his NX has a off center double slot on the left bottom side of the system. Possibly the speaker placement but that would seem weird. Maybe cooling vents but if thats the case, whats on top next to the game card slot?

[BlackNMild2k1]

pictures man!!! we need pictures!!