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New Mario in Development
« on: April 10, 2014, 12:00:00 AM »

From the team that brought you 3D World.

http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/news/37123/new-mario-in-development

A new Mario game is in the works at Nintendo EAD Tokyo, according to the team that created Super Mario 3D World.

 

When asked in an interview by Edge Online if it will be a Wii U or 3DS title, Nintendo producer Yoshiaki Koizumi replied with, "That's still a secret!" However, EAD Tokyo team leader, Kenta Motokura, chimed in saying that if it was to be a Wii U title, it might need to make better use of the GamePad. "There’s still a lot more room for discovery and invention, and we’ll continue to propose new and exciting game mechanics going into the future," stated Koizumi.

 

No further details regarding the new title were clarified.

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Re: New Mario In Development
« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2014, 12:15:20 AM »
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Re: New Mario In Development
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2014, 12:35:35 AM »
I will be $10,000.00 that this is coming out in 2016...on the next Nintendo home console.  It will be a launch game.

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Re: New Mario In Development
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2014, 01:02:37 AM »
New Mario? ...FINALLY!!

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Re: New Mario In Development
« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2014, 01:16:35 AM »
Whew! I was seriously thinking 3D World would be the final foray into the world of Mario. Thanks for erasing my fears, Nintendo!


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« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2014, 01:29:17 AM »
Good. I was worried for a moment that the Wii U would actually have something approximating software variety.
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Re: New Mario in Development
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2014, 01:47:24 AM »
Sigh.

I love every EAD game but I am ready for them to do something new. Hopefully they at least push Mario in a new direction. Hell I'd be thrilled if they went back to the Super Mario 64/Sunshine style of Mario.

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Re: New Mario in Development
« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2014, 01:51:26 AM »
^ i surely hope you bought Jungle Beat, because people who didn't forfeited their own right to demand anything from EAD Tokyo.
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« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2014, 02:09:28 AM »
Perhaps it is a total remake of Super Mario 64?
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Re: New Mario in Development
« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2014, 02:45:04 AM »
With Mario 3D World not exactly giving the Wii U sales a huge boast, I could see Nintendo wanting to try something different with 3D Mario again just to see what it does.  You can't get anymore different then making it more exploration based again and with 3D World already providing a good engine for cheaper development, I think a Mario 64 type of game could be a real possibility.
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« Reply #10 on: April 10, 2014, 01:31:46 PM »
With both NSMB U and Super Mario 3D World failing to move systems, it would really make no sense to assume that MORE Mario will cure what ails the Wii U.  But Nintendo has no idea what they're doing anymore so I can see them thinking this will matter.

This isn't news.  It's like saying the Activision is making a new Call of Duty or EA is making a new Madden.  Yes, I now compare Mario to those soulless cash cow series but he become annualized so isn't the comparison fair?

It seems like Nintendo has become so conservative that they're using the logic that since Mario is their most popular series that they should focus almost entirely on him.  That's some really flawed logic but it is the sort of thing corporate suits will think up.  They're noticing that Mario can sell 10 million while another Nintendo franchise may only reach 2 million.  So if instead of one of each if they go with two Marios they can make 20 million instead of only 12.  The fallacy there is that the people that will buy a Nintendo system aren't only interested in Mario.  Mario might not even be their favourite Nintendo series in the first place.  What Mario is is the common denominator.  He's the Nintendo franchise that almost every Nintendo customer likes.  Now Zelda or PokĂ©mon or Wii Sports or even something more obscure like Pikmin or Fire Emblem is their favourite and ends up being their killer app but they all like Mario and will buy Mario games if they own a system his games appear on.  Nintendo is looking at that large group of Mario players and thinking that Mario is the draw for all of them, but the group for which Mario is specifically the draw is much smaller.  This is why Mario made minimal impact on the Gamecube, was a huge success on the Wii, and is again making a minimal impact on the Wii U.  The Wii had a massively popular killer app in a new IP in Wii Sports.  It had Zelda and Metroid, two franchises with very devoted fans, being released prior to Mario.  It had more than just Mario to attract an audience and by the time huge Mario hits like Mario Kart Wii and NSMB Wii came out the userbase was already established.

Mario is a draw but he isn't the reason the Wii sold like hot cakes.  If any one game could claim to be the Wii system seller it's Wii Sports but I think for any system it's a team effort of many games that make the purchase worthwhile to the individual consumer.  That's why variety is so important because you never know what specific combination is going to sway each individual.  That's why third party support matters.  That's why you aim to cover multiple genres and multiple demographics.  That's why focusing too much effort on one series and one genre at the expense of others isn't working and is sinking the Wii U like a stone.

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Re: New Mario in Development
« Reply #11 on: April 10, 2014, 02:36:30 PM »
^ i surely hope you bought Jungle Beat, because people who didn't forfeited their own right to demand anything from EAD Tokyo.
I'm totally eligible to make demands.

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« Reply #12 on: April 10, 2014, 05:45:12 PM »
With both NSMB U and Super Mario 3D World failing to move systems, it would really make no sense to assume that MORE Mario will cure what ails the Wii U.  But Nintendo has no idea what they're doing anymore so I can see them thinking this will matter.

NSMB U and 3D World were both based off of existing types of Mario games that people could get on 3DS.  Who's to say this new Mario won't be something completely different in order to give greater appeal to the Wii U since people will have to buy a Wii U just to play this new type of Mario?

You think if Mario Sunshine was a huge success we would have gotten something like Galaxy on the Wii?  No, we would have gotten something more like Sunshine, similar to how Sunshine itself was more of a continuation of 64's exploration themed gameplay.
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Re: New Mario in Development
« Reply #13 on: April 10, 2014, 05:48:26 PM »
Good. I was worried for a moment that the Wii U would actually have something approximating software variety.


There is software variety. It's just not coming from Nintendo EAD.


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« Reply #14 on: April 10, 2014, 06:27:03 PM »
It just goes to show how tainted the NSMB series is at this point that I see the words 'New' and 'Mario' together and think 'nope'.
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« Reply #15 on: April 10, 2014, 06:51:24 PM »
With both NSMB U and Super Mario 3D World failing to move systems, it would really make no sense to assume that MORE Mario will cure what ails the Wii U.  But Nintendo has no idea what they're doing anymore so I can see them thinking this will matter.

NSMB U and 3D World were both based off of existing types of Mario games that people could get on 3DS.  Who's to say this new Mario won't be something completely different in order to give greater appeal to the Wii U since people will have to buy a Wii U just to play this new type of Mario?

You think if Mario Sunshine was a huge success we would have gotten something like Galaxy on the Wii?  No, we would have gotten something more like Sunshine, similar to how Sunshine itself was more of a continuation of 64's exploration themed gameplay.

A new style Mario game stands a better chance of selling Wii U's than the previous games.  I agree with you there.  I still think they ought to try something different, though.  The Wii U has enough platform games and needs other genres.

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Re: New Mario in Development
« Reply #16 on: April 11, 2014, 10:46:08 AM »
I would've liked to see them do something new as well.  But maybe they'll do something like Jungle Beat -taking advantage of a unique controller- and just add Mario to it.  But who knows.  I don't think a Mario platformer is gonna drive people to buy the system.
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Re: New Mario in Development
« Reply #17 on: April 11, 2014, 10:56:29 AM »
There is software variety.


No, there isn't. There are bunch of platformers with a few other genres sprinkled in between. That's not variety.
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Re: New Mario in Development
« Reply #18 on: April 11, 2014, 02:23:25 PM »
I definitely have Mario fatigue at this point, having only played through world 3 fo 3D World and stopping out of disinterest.
 
That said, I'm assuming this 3D Mario game is a ways away, I might be more interested as more details are released.

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« Reply #19 on: April 11, 2014, 02:33:59 PM »
No, there isn't. There are bunch of platformers with a few other genres sprinkled in between. That's not variety.

Outside of Yarn Yoshi, the rest of Nintendo's upcoming Wii U lineup is all different genre's.  So more variety for the system is coming.

Plus this new Mario hasn't even been officially announced yet.  For all we know it might not come out until Fall 2016 so it's a little early to complain about it being a part of the too many platformer problem.  If they release a bunch of non-platformers between it and Yoshi, then I'm not seeing the problem with it being another Platformer because by the time of its release, we might have had a 2 year gap of no Nintendo platformers.
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Re: New Mario in Development
« Reply #20 on: April 11, 2014, 02:35:22 PM »
There is software variety.


No, there isn't. There are bunch of platformers with a few other genres sprinkled in between. That's not variety.


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Now, there are a wide amount of platformers, but to say there's just "a few other genres sprinkled in between" is incredibly disingenuous.
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« Reply #21 on: April 11, 2014, 03:40:21 PM »
I love that the biggest non-story ever ("Nintendo is making a Mario game.") is getting this kind of response. Wii U doomsday talk at the mere possibility that the game *might be* on the console.
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« Reply #22 on: April 12, 2014, 10:14:43 PM »
Does the story say main line Mario game or is there a chance it is a spin off like a Mario sports or Mario Party or that Mario Paintball someone mentioned before?
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« Reply #23 on: April 12, 2014, 10:30:52 PM »
I love that the biggest non-story ever ("Nintendo is making a Mario game.") is getting this kind of response. Wii U doomsday talk at the mere possibility that the game *might be* on the console.


Maybe if the Nintendo were releasing games for the Wii U, people would be talking about those games or playing those.  Until then, we'll just comment on a bunch of non-stories.  Viva la drought. 

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« Reply #24 on: April 12, 2014, 10:53:38 PM »
Does the story say main line Mario game or is there a chance it is a spin off like a Mario sports or Mario Party or that Mario Paintball someone mentioned before?

From the source story:
We speak to the team behind Super Mario 3D World in the new issue of Edge, which is published on April 10 in (ads removed) Within that feature, Nintendo producer Yoshiaki Koizumi says that while work has begun on the new game, it could not confirm whether it’ll be 3DS or Wii U title. “That’s still a secret!” he says. “I can tell you, though, that we’ve already started approaching our next challenge.” Elsewhere, Koizumi says: “There’s still a lot more room for discovery and invention, and we’ll continue to propose new and exciting game mechanics going into the future.” If follow-up to Super Mario 3D World is to be a Wii U game, co-director and EAD Tokyo team leader Kenta Motokura says his team “might need to make even more use of the GamePad.”
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