Gaming Forums => General Gaming => Topic started by: kraken613 on August 09, 2009, 01:20:42 AM
Title: Good Bye Microsoft
Post by: kraken613 on August 09, 2009, 01:20:42 AM
So today I went to flip my 360 on to play COD4. Guess what! It wouldn't turn on! Not the red rings it wouldn't even power up! Unplugged everything, tried different cable everything. It has died. My 7th 360 to die except the other 6 where RRoD's, this wasn't. So Microsoft won't repair it for free! They would charge me $170 plus shipping! No thank you! Good bye Microsoft, my days gaming with you have ended. Hello Sony, you now are the maker of my console of choice! Hello to a bright and happy future in supporting Sony, Nintendo, and the PC for all my new gaming purchases! The Microsoft Xbox division is dead to me.
Title: Re: Good Bye Microsoft
Post by: NWR_pap64 on August 09, 2009, 02:08:35 AM
Aw come on!
A TRUE Xbox fan would quit on tenth console. Afterwards its pure dedication :D .
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Post by: Smash_Brother on August 09, 2009, 02:22:24 AM
SEVENTH?! Holy ****!
I'm amazed you held out THAT long...
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Post by: KDR_11k on August 09, 2009, 02:36:38 AM
If everything before was free replacements...
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Post by: ShyGuy on August 09, 2009, 02:56:55 AM
Good news Kraken, COD4 is getting ported to the Wii.
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Post by: S-U-P-E-R on August 09, 2009, 03:11:18 AM
I've had the same one for two years. Do you bounce it off the walls or something? Keep it on carpet? Pour orange juice on it? Perhaps stick your four leaf clovers in the fan?
Title: Re: Good Bye Microsoft
Post by: ThePerm on August 09, 2009, 03:21:59 AM
xross your fingers Super?
Title: Re: Good Bye Microsoft
Post by: kraken613 on August 09, 2009, 03:42:32 AM
I've had the same one for two years. Do you bounce it off the walls or something? Keep it on carpet? Pour orange juice on it? Perhaps stick your four leaf clovers in the fan?
I have had the same one for 2 years. Last time it RRoD'ed was right before Mass Effect. Before that it was a RRoD here and RRoD there, here a RR there a RR, everywhere a RRoD. Haha, I got all my 6 RRoD's in that! haha
Title: Re: Good Bye Microsoft
Post by: ThePerm on August 09, 2009, 03:45:15 AM
after your 6th xbox they just engineered yours so it wouldnt get the rrod
Title: Re: Good Bye Microsoft
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on August 09, 2009, 03:45:38 AM
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Thats why I have a PS3, to the play real games on it...
Blu-ray movies actually don't count as real games even if they have cheap flash games built into some of them. Just saying.
Title: Re: Good Bye Microsoft
Post by: kraken613 on August 09, 2009, 03:48:02 AM
Good news Kraken, COD4 is getting ported to the Wii.
Even better new, Call of Duty 4 is already out on the PC... along with the rest of the series.
Title: Re: Good Bye Microsoft
Post by: oohhboy on August 09, 2009, 11:42:40 AM
I am continually surprised how much crap people put up with when it comes to the Xbox. This is the world where people fly into fits of rage over 10 cents, yet endless number of people who are on their nth Xbox just keep sucking it down.
What the hell is going on here?!?!
On another note COD4 is pretty awesome, but it would suck to play that on a control pad.
Title: Re: Good Bye Microsoft
Post by: Smash_Brother on August 09, 2009, 12:24:00 PM
I've had the same one for two years. Do you bounce it off the walls or something? Keep it on carpet? Pour orange juice on it? Perhaps stick your four leaf clovers in the fan?
That 360 is the only survivor of the red ring holocaust.
Everyone I know who has a 360 is on #2, minimum. Some are on #3-4.
Title: Re: Good Bye Microsoft
Post by: Adrock on August 09, 2009, 01:05:13 PM
My brother's Xbox just RROD'd the other week. It lasted a little over 2.5 years. Of course, my Gamecube still works and that's what almost 8 years old....
Microsoft is just lucky they launched first and Sony charged a soul for PS3 when it came out, otherwise they'd be SOL with this crap.
Title: Re: Good Bye Microsoft
Post by: KDR_11k on August 09, 2009, 01:28:35 PM
Out of pure curiosity, who plays movies in their xboxes?
I've seemed to notice a trend that they die much faster if you play movies in them.
I heard that's the case with all consoles that do play movies, the drive motor isn't designed to handle that.
Oh, Nintendo, you knew what was right for us all along. Are people who don't use friend codes going to start being killed off next?
That said, the only time I've had anything Nintendo break was my NES after like 15 years. The only non-Nintendo console I've had was a PS1, and one day that decided not to turn on, several years before the NES did, mind you. The PS1 breaking was what me go with a GameCube over a PS2, that and Wind Waker. I can't imagine going through 7 consoles, the one PS1 made me abandon Sony.
Title: Re: Good Bye Microsoft
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on August 09, 2009, 01:47:28 PM
It's a good console, it just beats me sometimes
Title: Re: Good Bye Microsoft
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 09, 2009, 02:51:59 PM
You realize that you don't have to take it anymore. You are setting us gamers back a whole generation, that is why we have Battered Gamers Shelters.
Title: Re: Good Bye Microsoft
Post by: Mop it up on August 09, 2009, 03:28:36 PM
No lights at all? Are you sure it isn't just that the AC adapter has a short?
Title: Re: Good Bye Microsoft
Post by: kraken613 on August 09, 2009, 03:31:03 PM
I tried 3 AC adapters from 3 different friends.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 09, 2009, 03:39:04 PM
Are you sure the outlet still works? just wanna make sure you've ruled out all other possibilities... regardless of how obvious they are.
Title: Re: Good Bye Microsoft
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on August 09, 2009, 03:49:36 PM
One thing I'm pretty sure you have to do is blast out the dust occasionally with canned air or you get overheating problems.
Title: Re: Good Bye Microsoft
Post by: kraken613 on August 09, 2009, 03:56:24 PM
Yes, I have even tried it at the different peoples houses, just brought my 360 over to them its not the plug. Everything else works in the surge protector that it is in, even other things in the very slot. Its the 360.
I clean and dust my home theater setup once a week. I work on computers for work and am going to school for them, I know to dust...
Title: Re: Good Bye Microsoft
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on August 09, 2009, 04:13:53 PM
You do know that each 360 revision has a different power connector right? It's because of different voltages. But it seems like something fried internally. If you want another 360 you are better off buying an Arcade system.
Title: Re: Good Bye Microsoft
Post by: NWR_Lindy on August 09, 2009, 07:19:08 PM
I dunno, there's less and less point to owning a 360 these days. Outside of Halo, Gears, and Mass Effect (and maybe Fable), there isn't much else out there for it that you can't get elsewhere. If I didn't have so much money tied up in 360 Rock Band peripherals I'd dump my 360 altogether.
Title: Re: Good Bye Microsoft
Post by: broodwars on August 09, 2009, 07:28:16 PM
Thats why I have a PS3, to the play real games on it...
Blu-ray movies actually don't count as real games even if they have cheap flash games built into some of them. Just saying.
People who can't find worthwhile games on the PS3 aren't looking very hard, if they're looking at all. And yeah, I'm looking forward to Uncharted 2 as well and I just finished (the awesome) Valkyria Chronicles.
Sorry to hear about your 360, but the console's now-legendary shoddy workmanship is one of the main reasons I never picked one up. Well, that and I don't give a damn about FPS titles. Like everyone else here, I'm amazed you were willing to sit through 6 RROD 360s before finally saying enough was enough with your 7th breaking down.
Title: Re: Good Bye Microsoft
Post by: Morari on August 09, 2009, 08:05:59 PM
I dunno, there's less and less point to owning a 360 these days. Outside of Halo, Gears, and Mass Effect (and maybe Fable), there isn't much else out there for it that you can't get elsewhere. If I didn't have so much money tied up in 360 Rock Band peripherals I'd dump my 360 altogether.
You can get Halo, Gears of War, Mass Effect, and Fable on the PC. However, you cannot yet get Halo 3, Gears of War 2, or Fable 2 outside of the Xbox 360. Mass Effect and Fable are really the only ones to care about anyway.
Title: Re: Good Bye Microsoft
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 09, 2009, 08:21:37 PM
"People who can't find worthwhile games on the PS3 aren't looking very hard."
People having to look hard for anything for any system shows how awesomely messed-up this generation is.
Title: Re: Good Bye Microsoft
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on August 09, 2009, 08:24:54 PM
"People who can't find worthwhile games on the PS3 aren't looking very hard."
People having to look hard for anything for any system shows how awesomely messed-up this generation is.
Yeah you have to decide. Do I want post apocalyptic, drab, brown or OMGZ realistic.
Title: Re: Good Bye Microsoft
Post by: Smash_Brother on August 09, 2009, 08:36:12 PM
I can't think of any console-exclusive reasons to own a 360. Halo 3 was fun for about a week but I eventually got bored with the online multiplayer. Haven't played GoW2 but the sheer number of online glitches alone would steer me away from it and Fable II...well, don't get me started about Fable II.
Title: Re: Good Bye Microsoft
Post by: jrlibrarian on August 09, 2009, 08:38:28 PM
I dunno, there's less and less point to owning a 360 these days. Outside of Halo, Gears, and Mass Effect (and maybe Fable), there isn't much else out there for it that you can't get elsewhere. If I didn't have so much money tied up in 360 Rock Band peripherals I'd dump my 360 altogether.
Since the 360 is my only console right now, I don't really have a choice. None of those games that you listed really interest me, so I'm pretty much playing LotR:C, Force & Sonic Unleashed, and Rock Band right now. Anyway, I'm focusing on catching up on handheld games like Pokemans:Platinum and Final Fantasy VI Advance right now.
Title: Re: Good Bye Microsoft
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on August 09, 2009, 08:43:08 PM
My 360 works and has been working perfectly for quite awhile now. I love my 360!
Title: Re: Good Bye Microsoft
Post by: BranDonk Kong on August 09, 2009, 09:04:43 PM
When's the last time you had it replaced? If it was less then a year ago, then you're under warranty, IIRC. I'm pretty sure every refurbished system comes with a 1 year warranty, even if it's only for the 3 red lights...tell them that you're getting the 3 red lights.
Title: Re: Good Bye Microsoft
Post by: broodwars on August 09, 2009, 09:27:19 PM
"People who can't find worthwhile games on the PS3 aren't looking very hard."
People having to look hard for anything for any system shows how awesomely messed-up this generation is.
Yeah you have to decide. Do I want post apocalyptic, drab, brown or OMGZ realistic.
Once again, Valkyria Chronicles says "hello"...as does the new Prince of Persia, for that matter. And that's just what I can think of off the top of my head.
Title: Re: Good Bye Microsoft
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on August 09, 2009, 09:28:13 PM
Don't be such a wuss. You can get anything fixed for free if you spend long enough on the phone.
Title: Re: Good Bye Microsoft
Post by: kraken613 on August 09, 2009, 09:37:35 PM
I am now about to start the mission of selling my games and accessories on Ebay.
The system is dead, and I am not too sad... I am going to losing the most on Rock Band. But I am just sick of the shoddy 360. Not many games are exclusives anymore anyways. And all the exclusives that I am looking forward to in the next year are on PS3.
Title: Re: Good Bye Microsoft
Post by: ShyGuy on August 09, 2009, 09:52:37 PM
It's true that almost all major 360 games come to the PC. There is little reason to own a 360.
Title: Re: Good Bye Microsoft
Post by: broodwars on August 09, 2009, 09:55:45 PM
"People who can't find worthwhile games on the PS3 aren't looking very hard."
People having to look hard for anything for any system shows how awesomely messed-up this generation is.
Yeah you have to decide. Do I want post apocalyptic, drab, brown or OMGZ realistic.
Once again, Valkyria Chronicles says "hello"...as does the new Prince of Persia, for that matter.
Prince of Persia on 360. Valkyria Chronicles is the exception not the rule (a game I have to get).
Alright, then add on top of those Eternal Sonata, Tales of Vesperia, Blaz Blue: Calamity Trigger, Disgaea 3, and Cross Edge. Granted, most of those are available on both platforms and 2 of them could be PS1 games but they are on Next-Gen platforms. There's plenty of graphical variety on all platforms, even on the Wii (though not nearly as much as I'd like with that console).
Incidentally, I find your loathing of "post apocalyptic, drab, brown or OMGZ realistic" to be rather ironic considering if I remember correctly you're a Fallout 3 fan. ;)
And I'll just end that off-topic banter right there before it gets out of hand.
Title: Re: Good Bye Microsoft
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 09, 2009, 11:11:36 PM
I am now about to start the mission of selling my games and accessories on Ebay.
The system is dead, and I am not too sad... I am going to losing the most on Rock Band. But I am just sick of the shoddy 360. Not many games are exclusives anymore anyways. And all the exclusives that I am looking forward to in the next year are on PS3.
Make sure you keep your wireless 360 controllers for console like PC gaming.
Title: Re: Good Bye Microsoft
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on August 10, 2009, 01:24:50 AM
I am now about to start the mission of selling my games and accessories on Ebay.
The system is dead, and I am not too sad... I am going to losing the most on Rock Band. But I am just sick of the shoddy 360. Not many games are exclusives anymore anyways. And all the exclusives that I am looking forward to in the next year are on PS3.
PM me a list so I can get first grabs
Title: Re: Good Bye Microsoft
Post by: kraken613 on August 10, 2009, 01:29:57 AM
^^ I already do...
Title: Re: Good Bye Microsoft
Post by: EasyCure on August 10, 2009, 07:09:02 PM
It seems like any time I have even an iota of interest in getting a 360, I come across a story/thread like this that keeps me in check. I'm not a nintendo fanboy, not even close, but it just happens to be I've never been severely dissapointed with their products.
When i was a kid i used to think my game gear was SO much cooler than a gameboy, until i realized how quickly the batteries died. Ugh. It got to the point my mom just refused to buy more batteries for me to waste, and was forced to playing with the ac adaptor plugged in. Whats the point in a portable if you have to play teathered to a wall 3ft away? When i finally got a gameboy (color.. i held out a long time) I was happy with it.
My Saturn sure was a nice gift from my stepfather, a huge step-up from my SNES graphically... too bad I hated all the games for it that he bought the system with. I prefered my SSFII:Turbo over Virtua Fighter 2, and both MegaMan 8 and X4 SUCKED compared to the MM games I had on my S/NES. Oh and then there were those memory cards that kept me from saving any of my damn games, ugh.
Sometimes it feels like its just dumb luck, though, that i've stuck with Nintendo all these years.
Title: Re: Good Bye Microsoft
Post by: Stogi on August 10, 2009, 11:29:15 PM
Whats the point in a portable if you have to play teathered to a wall 3ft away?
Ahem...speak for yourself.
I like the PS3 way more than the 360. I hate how you have to pay for online. I hate how there is no WIRELESS card unless you want to buy one for a bill. And I hate how you can't go online into ranked matches without having an account even though your playing with your friend on his account. Gay.
I like the PS3 because of blu-ray. I normally wouldn't care, but because of the access I have to free blu-rays, it really does come in handy and I really enjoy the picture. I love how it has free internet gaming. I hate how big the damn thing is and I hate how light and shitty the controllers are.
I love my wii!
Title: Re: Good Bye Microsoft
Post by: kraken613 on August 10, 2009, 11:46:13 PM
PS3 Slim, I bet $5 announced on the 18th.
Title: Re: Good Bye Microsoft
Post by: EasyCure on August 11, 2009, 10:01:25 AM
Whats the point in a portable if you have to play teathered to a wall 3ft away?
Ahem...speak for yourself.
I'd rather play with other things when taking a bath? lol
With that said, I love my Wii as well! (haha!) I can't see myself getting a playstation though, just because i've always had bad luck with Sony products. With that and how faulty the 360's are, i'm SO relieved I'm actually enjoying my Wii and aren't an "elitist hardcore gamer" that complains of the lack of good.
Title: Re: Good Bye Microsoft
Post by: Ymeegod on August 15, 2009, 03:26:13 PM
The sad state is Sony's PS3 isn't 100% realiable neither. The laser goes (main problem) and there's alot of dead systems due to failed system update--I'm on my third freaking PS3 unit and it costed around $250 for repairs so far. Sony charges $150+ for any repair nowadays and they don't sell the components to consumers directly so buying lasers cost $60ish depending on model.
Still on my orginal Xbox360 though, go figure. The one console I bought the extended warranty for ($60 for 6 years--you get 3 years orginally so it extended it additional three).
Title: Re: Good Bye Microsoft
Post by: Xander on August 24, 2009, 01:55:22 PM
I'll likely buy a PS3 Slim. Then I'll have a PSWii60.
I am glad I have my 360, so that I can play Shadow Complex.
Title: Re: Good Bye Microsoft
Post by: Nick DiMola on August 24, 2009, 02:38:31 PM
Do you want to know the secret to getting your 360 replaced for free kraken? Tell them that it RRoD'ed even if it didn't. They don't check, and they honestly don't care. They know the system is essentially broken anyway.
Kids these days, gotta teach em all the tricks.
Title: Re: Good Bye Microsoft
Post by: kraken613 on August 25, 2009, 04:35:54 PM
I don't really care, I am sick of having to send my system in and supporting a company that makes shoddy hardware. Already sold all my 360 stuff.
Happy to be a PSWii player. Plus I have a gaming PC for games like Mass Effect 2.
Title: Re: Good Bye Microsoft
Post by: Rize on August 26, 2009, 11:36:08 AM
What do you play the thing 24 hours a day?
Title: Re: Good Bye Microsoft
Post by: Ymeegod on August 27, 2009, 05:58:03 PM
Well I'm surprised MS tried charging $170? It's usually a flat $80 for repairs last I knew. For $170 you can buy a New Arcade 360 for just $30 more. Really doesn't make much sense.
GI just had a chart made up called "epic fail" and the Xbox 360 rated a whooping 40 percent. Sony actually had nearly 10% and the WII had the lowest at 6%.
But yeah if you do buy a PS3 wait for the price drop and still buy the extended warranty for the extra three years. One laser failure costs $150+ taxes for Sony to fix so a $30 warranty is fairly cheap.
Thinking about the PS3 slim myself. I'm going take my ole PS3 and make an arcade box out of it since I already modded it and I have some madcats fighting sticks. All I need is a cheap LCD (42 inch screen).
Title: Re: Good Bye Microsoft
Post by: kraken613 on August 28, 2009, 01:23:38 PM
I have had a PS3 for over a year.
Title: Re: Good Bye Microsoft
Post by: Chozo Ghost on August 29, 2009, 10:40:33 PM
Because Nintendo is not hardcore centric anymore. I mean what games would I be playing with only a Wii this fall? Mario Bros Wii.
Not this stupid argument again....
I am not arguing I am telling my honest opinion of why.
No, it is a really stupid sentiment and is PR straight from the mouths of Nintendo's competitors. The worst part is it isn't even true, Nintendo's made like 22 games for the Wii that fit the standard definition of games, either continuations of pre-existing, Pre-2004 "Casual Crisis" series or games with characters gamers already know about, with only about 6 or so games aimed at the non-gamers. On the DS, the original "Zomg casual games ruining everything" console, it's like 50 core games to 12. It's not even CLOSE to this idea that Nintendo has canceled all their core games in favor of non-gamers.
In fact this is so bad I suggest it become a bannable offense. The argument just doesn't stand up to rudimentary facts and any continuation of it is either a troll attempt or an inability to process new facts, both of which are really undesirable for a forum.
Title: Re: Good Bye Microsoft
Post by: Mop it up on August 30, 2009, 04:23:10 PM
As far as I'm concerned, Nintendo was never "hardcore-centric". They've always created games which are relatively simplistic by design and aimed at a wide audience. Nintendo hasn't changed.
Title: Re: Good Bye Microsoft
Post by: kraken613 on August 30, 2009, 06:27:42 PM
Just saying I will be getting one game for my Wii in the last 4 month of the year. That game is New Super Mario Bros Wii. No where near enough software that I am interested in to have Nintendo be my favorite console maker.
For the rest of this year for my PS3 I am interested in Modern Warfare 2, The Beatles: Rock Band(with great looking graphics), Uncharted 2, and Grand Turismo 5, Assassin's Creed II, Batman: AA.
Title: Re: Good Bye Microsoft
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on August 30, 2009, 06:42:27 PM
I personally think that all of this hardcore, casual, and whatever labeling crap is garbage. To me there will be mainstream games which are popular and appeal to a broad audience such as Mario, Sonic, Brain Age, Halo, Mario Kart, Uncharted, Wii Fit, Madden, Guitar Hero, Rock Band and your niche/obscure games which appeal to a specific fanbase or audience such as Shin Megami Tensei, Rune Factory, Mad World, Disgaea, Mystery Dungeon games.
I remember someone made a time line about this labeling nonsense:
Quote from: Neogaf
1970s - 1994: - The terms "Non-Game/Casual/Core" do not exist - Nintendo is awesome (not for Sega-fans)
1994 - 2003: - The terms "Non-Game/Casual/Core" do not exist - Nintendo is kiddy
2004: - The terms "Non-Game/Casual/Core" do not exist - Nintendo is still kiddy - "PSP is going to outsell the NDS by 5 trillion units" - "Nintendo is going 3rd Party"
2005: - Sony-fans have to eat a lot of crows - NDS becomes the super-seller - Brain Age, Nintendogs & Co. are successful - Iwata mentions the term "Non-Game" to describe Animal Crossing, which is also a great success - So, let's bad-mouth this all! -> NDS is only successful because of Non-Games -> The only games that're doing well on the NDS are Non-Games -> Everyone is going to create only Non-Games now -> Nintendo is going to create only Non-Games now -> Non-Games are destroying the industry -> Nintendo is destroying the industry
2006: - "****, NDS is great, everything sells well, industry gets bigger and bigger" - Wii gets released -> Wii is only successful because of Non-Games -> The only games that're doing well on the Wii are Non-Games -> Everyone is going to create Non-Games now -> Nintendo is going to create only Non-Games now -> Non-Games are destroying the industry -> Nintendo is destroying the industry
Irony fact: "Gamers always wanted a big industry in which everyone plays, now they're crying around"
2007: - The term "Non-Game" gets replaced by the term "Casual-Game" - Everyone uses the term "Core-Gamer" to describe themselves (or in 2006 already) - Peak year of discussions/posting bullshit
2008: - Like 2007
2009: - Finally, people are not talking that much about this topic and I hope this ends soon...
Title: Re: Good Bye Microsoft
Post by: redgiemental on August 31, 2009, 10:51:12 AM
The point remains that the PS3 has more games that appeal to kraken is interested in.
I find myself in a similar situation and it's quite frustrating to be told your opinion is purely PR garbage when it is simply an honest appraisal of what you like.
Title: Re: Good Bye Microsoft
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 31, 2009, 12:08:35 PM
It doesn't help that the honest opinion is poorly articulated in such a way to frame itself just like pure PR garbage. There are better ways to deliver your message, and I haven't seen it here. If it's deliberate then that elevates it to a new issue.
Title: Re: Good Bye Microsoft
Post by: vudu on August 31, 2009, 01:51:09 PM
Sorry kraken, but apparently your opinion is wrong. ;) I didn't know that was possible ....
Title: Re: Good Bye Microsoft
Post by: kraken613 on August 31, 2009, 02:03:30 PM
LOL!
I didn't know an opinion could be wrong either!
Deliver my message in another way other than: I want this one game on Wii and I want these 6-7 games on PS3?
Title: Re: Good Bye Microsoft
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 31, 2009, 03:48:57 PM
Right-on, that's what we mean.
But earlier it wasn't without the fluff that started a blaze.
Title: Re: Good Bye Microsoft
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 31, 2009, 03:50:18 PM
Opinions aren't wrong, but they can be poorly reasoned and invalid =D
But that wasn't what was argued. Kraken said the PS3 is now his main gaming system and he got nothing but guff. Why do we care if he likes PS3 better than Wii?
Title: Re: Good Bye Microsoft
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 31, 2009, 04:13:09 PM
Because Nintendo is not hardcore centric anymore...
This is where things took off, unintentional forum arson, maybe. His PS3 inclination wasn't getting attacked, if you followed. Saying "I want this one game on Wii and I want these 6-7 games on PS3" is pretty plain and wouldn't have gotten anyone's reaction, that's a matter of quantities on his wishlist for the year. HOWEVER, he kicked things off with a loaded "PR bullsquash" statement, and in NWR fashion, NWR Staff jumped on it. fire in the hole! hit the deck!
A part of the statement was clear PR garbage. It could've been left out without changing the point ("I only plan on getting Mario for the remainder of the year"). Why include the PR garbage to begin with?
Title: Re: Good Bye Microsoft
Post by: kraken613 on August 31, 2009, 08:57:14 PM
Am I seriously not allowed to have an opinion? Because for the past year and a half there has been not that much on the Wii to entertain me. And a total of none from Nintendo. Last game that got me really excited and I played for more than a few weeks that was from Nintendo was Brawl. Last March....
Yes the upcoming year looks awesome, but that's not right now. For me personally there has been little support from Nintendo for games that I want. Its the truth and that doesn't look to be changing until next year.
Title: Re: Good Bye Microsoft
Post by: Ymeegod on September 01, 2009, 06:11:59 PM
Not according to Deguello--only his opinion matters *rolls eyes*.
The industry been saying the same for awhile now the WII software is god awful at the best of times. There's not alot of AAA titles on the platform even though it has thousand+ software titles. It's a complete opposite of last generation for Big N.
At least the WII's linup is still better than the PSP--sony really hasn't done much in the last two years neither for that platform.
Title: Re: Good Bye Microsoft
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on September 01, 2009, 06:16:19 PM
Not according to Deguello--only his opinion matters *rolls eyes*.
The industry been saying the same for awhile now the WII software is god awful at the best of times. There's not alot of AAA titles on the platform even though it has thousand+ software titles. It's a complete opposite of last generation for Big N.
At least the WII's linup is still better than the PSP--sony really hasn't done much in the last two years neither for that platform.
All depends what you consider AAA which is subjective at best. The Wii has plenty of solid games on it, maybe not wow, 10 out of 10 games in plenty but solid games and several great games both casual and more core.
Title: Re: Good Bye Microsoft
Post by: Ymeegod on September 01, 2009, 06:47:01 PM
Well if you just go by averages and compare the first 2 1/2 years of releases on the GC vrs the WII and you'll going find more games were rated in the 85%+ on the GC during that time period.
Alot of that has to due with 3rd party games being excluded from the WII--Batman AA, Bioshock, Fallout, ect--I can go all day if I wanted to. A few developers have taken the time to make multiplatform games appear on the WII, why I supported Activision on finally porting Modern Warfare and hopefully other developers take the time to bring their titles as well.
And finally, the developers seem to focus on the casual gamers so you'll getting like 10 "mini-game clone" to 1 that isn't. There's so much "shovelware" on the WII I think the customers are starting to lose interest in gaming in general which isn't good for the industry.
The PS3 might not have tons of software coming out but if you're a fan of fighting, action, shooting, and RPGs than the WII really doesn't have much to counter in those areas.
Saddly Big N is going win the console war this generation but I don't think it's going touch the PS2 of even the SNES numbers. Just look at the monthly sales and the massive decrease from just one year ago and you'll see what I mean.
Title: Re: Good Bye Microsoft
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 01, 2009, 07:22:00 PM
"A few developers have taken the time to make multiplatform games appear on the WII"
But JUST LIKE what occurred on GameCube, those same multiplatform publishers (are the devs really deciding what's multiplatform or not?) have not been putting in those good-faith best efforts in versions that appear on Nintendo consoles. Countless on-time "multiplatform" games that landed on GameCube were either disastrous port jobs or "good enough" versions with key features axed. I could go all day down memory lane to recount the duds and bad apples, which is why I'm personally hesitant to support a company that appears to "finally support" the casual machine. They've got to put their best foot forward AND make sure the shoes look good too. Using Modern Warfare as an example, it's got to be a top-quality job meeting their [selective...] high standards AND they have to show they care enough about it by proving it already makes the grade instead of hiding it like they're ashamed of it. If they made a big deal about the original version the first time around, why aren't we seeing any of that enthusiasm now?
Typically, I'd think that if a company thinks they've got a great product and wants us to believe they've got a great product, they'd convey it by demonstrating the product as much as possible (that's what they DO, right?). Instead we see 3rd party games quietly hit Wii, no big deal, "zero" publicity (gotta go beyond the internet). Not a big deal? Fine, I'm sure the ignorant public agrees.
How about these game makers try delivering products that at least compete with the GameCube remakes that've shown up on Wii, let's start there?
Title: Re: Good Bye Microsoft
Post by: Ymeegod on September 01, 2009, 07:48:52 PM
Well it goes with sales, if there's enough sales then the ports usually recieve a better treatment--GH series or even Rock band for example.
I think Modern Warfare might get a better treatment than WoW since the sales were alot better last time around. CoD 3 for the WII didn't sell but WoW did so hopefully Activision sees that. I just hope they don't rush the game just to make the winter release. Have to wait and see.
Title: Re: Good Bye Microsoft
Post by: Luigi Dude on September 02, 2009, 06:35:37 PM
Saddly Big N is going win the console war this generation but I don't think it's going touch the PS2 of even the SNES numbers. Just look at the monthly sales and the massive decrease from just one year ago and you'll see what I mean.
If your going to say statements like this, at least do some research. At this point in the Wii's lifespan it's already several million units higher then the PS2 was at this point in it's lifespan. Not to mention even though the Wii's sales the last several months are lower then last years, these low numbers are around the same numbers the PS2 was doing at this point in it's lifespan.
Plus I'd like to point out that at this point in the PS2's life, it was $180 in North America. The PS2 launched at a $300 price tag and by it's third year was down to $180. The Wii on the other hand launch at $250 and by it's third year is STILL $250.
People have to remember this little fact since Sony had to drop the PS2's price several times in it's life to keep it's high sales going. Nintendo has yet to drop the price of the system once and yet it's still sold more at this point in it's life then the PS2 did and even at it's worst, it's still putting up the same numbers the PS2 did on average, even though the Wii is more expensive then the PS2 was at this point in it's life.
Plus I have to ask, why did you say the Wii wont touch the SNES sales in your post? The SNES only sold 49 million units during it's entire life. The Wii surpassed the 50 million mark months ago. If your going to compare the Wii to another Nintendo home console at least pick the NES which sold over 60 million units. Of course at the Wii's current pace, it'll easily surpass that mark sometime in the next year so you wont have long to use that either.
Title: Re: Good Bye Microsoft
Post by: Ymeegod on September 07, 2009, 06:48:54 PM
I'm talking about the software side of things--what good is overall sales when the software side is lacking?
There's 100's of Great PS2 games but there's only a handful of great WII games--you can't deny this since everyone is the industry states the same.
Right now even though the WII is winning the hardware side of things, in terms of software--the 360 is still considered king.
You can google either gamerankings or metacritic since both sites take the average reviews.
Title: Re: Good Bye Microsoft
Post by: NWR_insanolord on September 07, 2009, 07:06:23 PM
People who treat Metacritic ratings as objective and absolute indicators of quality are hopeless and not worth arguing with.
Title: Re: Good Bye Microsoft
Post by: Ymeegod on September 07, 2009, 07:32:01 PM
I never stated that--but it's still an average of reviews and no you're not going agree with every score but it's usually pretty fair though. Or if you didn't go by just avg but by the majority of votes you can actual filter it that way too.
Majority of votes is my method--there's some reviewers who simply rated the game extremly high or really low for one reason or other so just taking the bulk works best IMO.
For example if 4 of of 5 people rate a game at 9'0 and one can rated it a 1.0 the average is 7.4 a C rated game--that wouldn't be fair IMO so by taking the bulk you simply the majority which is 9 --making it an A rated game.
Title: Re: Good Bye Microsoft
Post by: kraken613 on September 07, 2009, 07:50:26 PM
Yes, this really has to do with the quality of Microsoft's hardware....
Title: Re: Good Bye Microsoft
Post by: Ymeegod on September 07, 2009, 08:26:20 PM
Yup, kinda went off track a bit :).
There's a nice new article about Xbox 360's hardware though.http://www.gamespot.com/news/6216691.html
Title: Re: Good Bye Microsoft
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on September 07, 2009, 08:58:16 PM
Nintendo, say what you want about the horsepower, seems to use the best quality materials in their hardware.
Title: Re: Good Bye Microsoft
Post by: kraken613 on September 07, 2009, 09:47:49 PM
The funny thing is my Wii has died once....
Just ask UncleBob about Wii's dieing...
Title: Re: Good Bye Microsoft
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on September 07, 2009, 09:55:01 PM
