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« Last post by Luigi Dude on May 22, 2025, 01:34:06 PM »I'm sorry but everything you mentioned in your article is not what hurt the Wii U. The Wii U's biggest problem was it had a small lineup of games throughout it's lifespan, with terrible 3rd party support that lead to horrible droughts in software and the much cheaper 3DS offering similar experiences to most of the major Nintendo Wii U titles, leaving the only audience for it the most hardcore Nintendo fans who needed to have the latest Nintendo games in HD.
Seriously, let's compare the launch lineup. The Wii U's flagship title was New Super Mario Bros U, released 3 months after New Super Mario Bros 2 on the 3DS. Doesn't help that both games were just rehashing much of what New Super Mario Bros Wii did just 3 years earlier. Then the next major game was Mario 3D World in November 2013, a full YEAR after launch. Between that you had slim pickings from third parties, and Nintendo's own titles were very niche like a Wario Ware spinoff and Pikmin 3.
Meanwhile the Switch 2 will launch with Mario Kart World, the super ambitious sequel to a game that came out over 8 years ago, that not only makes major changes to the Mario Kart formula, but even includes a massive open world for people to explore. The next major game after this will be brand new 3D Donkey Kong, which looks to be a super ambitious as well, which comes out just a little over a month later.
Plus when you compare third party support at launch and what's coming in the near future, the Switch 2 third party lineup from just what we know about is lightyears better then the Wii U's lifetime total was.
Seriously, at the end of the day it's all about the games that determine the success of a console. The Wii U's biggest failure was Nintendo being unable to probably support it and the 3DS at the same time, which is the entire reason they began the process of merging their home console and handheld divisions right after the Wii U launch. This is why comparing the Switch 2 to the Wii U and even the 3DS is beyond silly when Nintendo has already shown the lineup for the Switch 2 at launch is a massive improvement over both systems when they launched.
Plus everyone seems to forget the other part of the Switch success is being a hybrid system. Since Valve is determined to keep the Steam Deck as niche as possible, the Switch has literally no competition. So if you want a hybrid console that can play the latest Nintendo games, as well as major third party titles like Cyberpunk and Elden Ring, the Switch 2 is the only console that can do that. Yeah there's rumor of Microsoft and Sony working on something but those won't be out until 2027 at the earliest and by that time the Switch 2's library will be so massive, it'll be hard for Microsoft and Sony to really take away any attention from the Switch 2.
Seriously, let's compare the launch lineup. The Wii U's flagship title was New Super Mario Bros U, released 3 months after New Super Mario Bros 2 on the 3DS. Doesn't help that both games were just rehashing much of what New Super Mario Bros Wii did just 3 years earlier. Then the next major game was Mario 3D World in November 2013, a full YEAR after launch. Between that you had slim pickings from third parties, and Nintendo's own titles were very niche like a Wario Ware spinoff and Pikmin 3.
Meanwhile the Switch 2 will launch with Mario Kart World, the super ambitious sequel to a game that came out over 8 years ago, that not only makes major changes to the Mario Kart formula, but even includes a massive open world for people to explore. The next major game after this will be brand new 3D Donkey Kong, which looks to be a super ambitious as well, which comes out just a little over a month later.
Plus when you compare third party support at launch and what's coming in the near future, the Switch 2 third party lineup from just what we know about is lightyears better then the Wii U's lifetime total was.
Seriously, at the end of the day it's all about the games that determine the success of a console. The Wii U's biggest failure was Nintendo being unable to probably support it and the 3DS at the same time, which is the entire reason they began the process of merging their home console and handheld divisions right after the Wii U launch. This is why comparing the Switch 2 to the Wii U and even the 3DS is beyond silly when Nintendo has already shown the lineup for the Switch 2 at launch is a massive improvement over both systems when they launched.
Plus everyone seems to forget the other part of the Switch success is being a hybrid system. Since Valve is determined to keep the Steam Deck as niche as possible, the Switch has literally no competition. So if you want a hybrid console that can play the latest Nintendo games, as well as major third party titles like Cyberpunk and Elden Ring, the Switch 2 is the only console that can do that. Yeah there's rumor of Microsoft and Sony working on something but those won't be out until 2027 at the earliest and by that time the Switch 2's library will be so massive, it'll be hard for Microsoft and Sony to really take away any attention from the Switch 2.
