The chat session bore some news of interest. First up, there was a question asked about Virtual console:
Q: Do you think that many people will utilize the Virtual Console to buy their old favorites?
Harrison: Certainly, we hope many people will take advantage of the virtual console games that they love from the past., but we also hope that people who have never experienced these games will enjoy them for the first time. Remember, there are other secrets of the virtual console that we won’t reveal until we get closer to launch.
Second, and probably more important for those looking forward to the game, Mr. Harrison was asked something about Zelda: Twilight Princess that a lot of people have been wondering about:
Q: What is up with the release status of Twilight Princess - is it coming out on GCN everywhere, or just here? Also, will we be able to use the GCN controller for the Wii version?
Harrison: Zelda TP will be releasing on both GCN and Wii on the same day as the launch of Wii. The GCN controller will be able to play the GCN version on the Wii console, but will not be able to play the Wii version.
That's confirmation straight from Nintendo: Twlight Princess Wii can only be played with the Wii remote controller. Those hoping to use a GameCube pad for the new Zelda may have to settle with the GameCube version, which will release simultaneously with the Wii SKU and the Wii console itself, some time before Thanksgiving.
Thanks to ant1532 from NeoGAF for the heads-up!
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Originally posted by: Acefondu
I planned to get the Wii version one way or the other, but this is depressing. Though, the only REAL change in the controls involve the bow, and some sword mechanics it seems. Movement will still be analog so it's not like Wii users will be cluncking around everywhere, similar to many disapointed by the DS Mario 64.
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Originally posted by: WindyManQuote
Originally posted by: Acefondu
I planned to get the Wii version one way or the other, but this is depressing. Though, the only REAL change in the controls involve the bow, and some sword mechanics it seems. Movement will still be analog so it's not like Wii users will be cluncking around everywhere, similar to many disapointed by the DS Mario 64.
We don't know that for sure. What was shown at E3 was running on not-final hardware, was using a controller that wasn't completely finished, and even the game itself was far from complete. I'm confident that Nintendo has been doing more than make the game look pretty with that extra year of development time.
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Originally posted by: Acefondu
I planned to get the Wii version one way or the other, but this is depressing. Though, the only REAL change in the controls involve the bow, and some sword mechanics it seems. Movement will still be analog so it's not like Wii users will be cluncking around everywhere, similar to many disapointed by the DS Mario 64.
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Originally posted by: PopeReal
I don't understand why that matters. Even if you ditch your GameCube, just buy the GC version and play it on your Wii with the GC controller if that's the way you want to play it.
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The already lame wii version just got lamer, but I dont care as long as I get my GC original. Although to be honest at this point Im very doubtful of the quality of the game. First it seemed just like some tacked-in remote functions, the main game apparently wasn't altered, but that was because most of us were deluded thinking the game was near completion, the truth is the game has never been close to that, and this split in focus can only mean both versions will be not as good as expected. Ocarina took nearly the same development time and it was just one control scheme they had to keep in mind, and anyone who has played Ocarina knows the game gravitates around the N64 controller, from simple gameplay mechanics to even dungeon level design. I have no clue how they expect to surpass what Ocarina did with this two versions which unfortunately all they do is to limit or hurt the other one.
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Although to be honest at this point Im very doubtful of the quality of the game.
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Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
Oh, I must have accidentally come to PLANET WHINECUBE by mistake...
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Originally posted by: PopeReal
I was thinking the same thing. I just don't understand why people are upset that Nintendo is giving them two ways to play this game. If you want your old school Ocarina of Time conrols you got it, if you want something a little different, you got it. What exactly is the problem?
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Originally posted by: PopeRealQuote
Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
Oh, I must have accidentally come to PLANET WHINECUBE by mistake...
I was thinking the same thing. I just don't understand why people are upset that Nintendo is giving them two ways to play this game. If you want your old school Ocarina of Time conrols you got it, if you want something a little different, you got it. What exactly is the problem?
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Originally posted by: EasyCure
this is one of those threads that makes you want to pull your hair out...
to all ranters:
did you really expect them to put gc controls into the wii version of TP? why did you think they made two seperate versions anyway, if it was that easy they would of just had a fwd compatible GC game that would allow for motion controls when loaded into the Wii. we didnt get that, they told us they'd have two sku's and that the wii version would have motion controls. they've told us numerous times that Wii games wont use the gc controllers. i dont see how any of you could actually of believed you could simply by the wii version of TP and use your GC controller. what would be the point of making two seperate sku's for the game?
and if you bother reading up to this point before replying back with "well brawl will use the GC controller, and so will DBZ!" keep in mind that those games are still in development and are using gc controllers with their dev kits. they could very well end up using the retro-controller. remember, wii runs in two modes: gc mode and wii mode. when in wii mode the system doesnt even acknowledge whatever peripherals you have plugged into it (ie gc controllers, wavebirds, memory cards, even the gba link). with that said, you'd technically be wrong anyway so dont bother.
nintendo is doing you the favor by even releasing the GC version at this point. they said themselves they were keeping their promise that its a gamecube game, but also giving players the option of trying out the title with a new control scheme for those who are able and ready to jump into their new generation of video games. if all you want to do is play it on the gc, thats ALL you have to do. buy that version and play it on your gamecube, or Wii and use the gc controllers. just because theres a second version out there, that you probably had no interest in from the beggining, doesnt mean that the version you want is flawed, it doesnt doom the series, and it wont bankrupt nintendo. so stop being babies
Quotenot really, because the controls are radically different, thus the overall difficulty of the game changes (some things are easier to do with the Wiimote than the GC controller and viceversa)
Originally posted by: sycomonkey
I still think they could have added Wii functionality in software to a Gamecube centric disc, much in the way that the Zelda Oracle series detected it when you played the game on a GBA instead of a Gameboy Color. But they didn't, so we'll deal.