You know what Mouse Clicker? I strongly disagree with you on this. I am completely on Bill's side.
First though, I must say that I was a little harsh in my first post in this thread. I had a bit to drink, and I was trying to say that FFXII might have the magic of the first 6 games. For the record, I thought that FFVII was a good game, but not the same as its ancestors. Also, I may make mention of the first 6 or 7 games like they were all good, but Final Fantasy 2j is one of the worst in the series. It's to be assumed that I am not talking about it.
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this picture for example. Some people might very well consider it to be fine art. They might buy a copy and hang it on their wall. Does that make the picture any less crappy? Hell no. But if Leonardo Davinci drew it, then some people might have a very different view of it. It's very possible that some art critics might admit that regardless of who drew it, it's still a piece of crap drawn in MS Paint. All opinions are subjective. But some opinions are just dumb. Thinking that the piece of crap I linked to is anywhere's near the quality of say... the Mona Lisa is just stupidity.
The same is true of Final Fantasy. It's because of our love for the first 7 games that we even care about all this. Seeing one of our most beloved series go straight downhill is not a pleasant thing for us to watch. Mouse Clicker, you are probably too young to remember the older games the way that we do. But it's akin to watching Einstein say that he has already proven himself to be the smartest man ever, so he's just going to go to the bar and drink himself into oblivion. We watched the series get flushed down the toilet, and WORSE, we had to listen to all the people who weren't around for the older games tell us that the new games are just as good. That makes a man bitter.
I could go on for days on this topic, but I think I will save that for a future post. It's my hope that you are able to see this from our point of view. If not, I will fight some more. I just don't like being called stuck up for being older than you, and being able to see the OBVIOUS decline of the franchise.
EDIT: It took me an hour to write that post, since I was doing other stuff as well at the time.
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I think most the people who bash FF7-X are the Nintendo fanboys who were to stuborn to buy a PSX and play them.
Give me a break. I own 2 copies of FF7, and I own a copy of FF8. I have played FF9 enough to know that it's the worst of the series. I recognize Xenogears as being one of the best games I ever played.
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FFVIII, good game, one of my least favorite FF games, but the game was still fun, Sqaure just tried to do to many things different, and there were falws, but it was nice to play something new.
I have heard that Square had two choices of works in progress to convert into Final Fantasy 8. One was Xenogears, and one was Eden's Quest. Eden's Quest was the one that became FF8. I don't know if this story is true or not, but it came from someone I think knows about this stuff. The game was a horrible soap opera of a game that I have come to hate very much. The storyline was sickening, the characters were flat and boring (aside from Squall), and the gameplay was akin to torture. New or not, you would think that someone would realize that their combat system sucked. Nintendo could easily make a Mario game in a new fashion where you run through the streets and kill hookers. Good thing that they dont' go for this whole "new" thing.
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FFIX, I can't undestand HOW some of you can say this was bad. The game had a fantastic story, and a very strong cast. Not to mention it felt like FF games of old.
It was a good try. I have always said that. Square honestly tried their hardest to give us something good and reminiscent of the old days. The problem was that they made a story that competed with "Record of Lodoss War" in terms of boringness, and the characters... I couldn't make worse characters if I tried. They were flat, boring, and simply uninteresting. The music in the game was the only good.
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FFX, I see FFX as FFVIII, but it fixed nearly all the flaws of FF8. Characters were enjoyable, story was solid, and there was enough to do. Not to mention it had a nice upgrade to the battle system.
To be honest, I haven't played much of FF10. But from what I did see of it, I hated it. The music sucked, the voice acting sucked, and I wasn't too impressed with the plot.
Gup, I am simply not going to fight with you. It's not worth either of our time. You are FAR too much of a Square fanboy for me to deal with. And you likely think that I am too much of a Nintendo fanboy for you to deal with, so I am just not going to bother. I propose that you ignore my posts about Square, and I will ignore yours. Everyone is happy.
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