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Title: Super Mario Kart Mafia: Results. Winner's podium and ending credits.
Post by: Khushrenada on July 01, 2009, 01:05:39 AM
Well, here we are. The end of another Grand Prix. It was quite the exciting race and there seemed to be some excitement everyday with one twist after another. Like a good race, it came down to the final course so it wasn't a blowout either. Good stuff. Now, at least people can comfort themselves with having given themselves a chance to win.

So, now we wait for the judges final tally of points to tell us who sits where. Personally, I'm hoping the final podium is this:

3rd Blue
2nd Red
1st Green

I'd love to crack open some victory champagne. I wonder if I could pop the cork enough to hit that Cheep Cheep balloon over there? I wonder if that is even possible. Aw, I need to quit dreaming. No guarentee I've even won yet. My body is twitching away waiting. I need to distract myself for awhile. Maybe I'll go to my shop and crank the boom box and let the tunes distract. Oh yeah!
Title: Re: Super Mario Kart Mafia: Results. Winner's podium and ending credits.
Post by: that Baby guy on July 01, 2009, 01:13:54 AM
I was rooting for anyone but red at the end!

Go Blue!  Then Green!

Edit:  So if stevey is actually on the blue team, who used the blue shell on day 2?
Title: Re: Super Mario Kart Mafia: Results. Winner's podium and ending credits.
Post by: Khushrenada on July 01, 2009, 01:22:26 AM
Stevey used the Blue shell on Day 2.
Title: Re: Super Mario Kart Mafia: Results. Winner's podium and ending credits.
Post by: that Baby guy on July 01, 2009, 01:30:33 AM
Didn't Plugabugz officially announce that both the lightning bolt and the blue shell had been used by red team members?  I don't recall reading that someone switched teams...
Title: Re: Super Mario Kart Mafia: Results. Winner's podium and ending credits.
Post by: Khushrenada on July 01, 2009, 01:41:14 AM
The lightning bolt and the star were the two items that were supposed to be team items I believe. Last Mario Kart game, Star and Lightning bolt were the special team items so I think that stayed the same. You'll notice blue shell is also listed as an item either team can get and then listed as Blue's special item. I believe that was another mix-up. Since Red received both the lightning bolt and the star, I expected Blue to get a lightning bolt and star but they only got the star and another blue shell. Whatever. With the second blue shell never getting used, it all works out in the end.
Title: Re: Super Mario Kart Mafia: Results. Winner's podium and ending credits.
Post by: Mop it up on July 01, 2009, 01:41:40 AM
Wow. I didn't realize you hated the Blue team so much...
Title: Re: Super Mario Kart Mafia: Results. Winner's podium and ending credits.
Post by: that Baby guy on July 01, 2009, 01:46:16 AM
http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=28665.msg525209#msg525209

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I have made another spectacular **** up, literally identical to last year. In response, there are no red/blue team-specific items.

I accidentally gave both team specific items to red in Day Two. This will be re-balanced shortly. I only noticed an hour ago.

I'm sorry if these minor changes aren't helping, i'm kinda disappointed in myself personally because i should have this all locked down.


If stevey was on the blue team, then he couldn't have been the one with the shell, unless more than one shell were present that day.  Plain and simple.

He had to be on the red team, unless someone else had a blue shell.  Did anyone else have a blue shell?
Title: Re: Super Mario Kart Mafia: Results. Winner's podium and ending credits.
Post by: Mop it up on July 01, 2009, 01:47:50 AM
That's exactly why I thought Stevey was Red until he showed me a screencap of Plugabugz assignment PM on day 6.
Title: Re: Super Mario Kart Mafia: Results. Winner's podium and ending credits.
Post by: Khushrenada on July 01, 2009, 01:50:16 AM
Both team specific items would be the Star and Lightning Bolt which Team Red had. I know Plugabugz said the Blue shell was team specific but that was a mistake like a few other things. I hate to keep bringing up the errors he made since he feels awful about them but that's where it is at. This time, I made sure to ask a lot of questions since I was almost burned in my first Mario Kart Mafia for not asking them.
Title: Re: Super Mario Kart Mafia: Results. Winner's podium and ending credits.
Post by: Mop it up on July 01, 2009, 01:51:51 AM
Well that explains a lot. Thatguy had a star on day 2 so he must have been the one Plugabugz was referring to.
Title: Re: Super Mario Kart Mafia: Results. Winner's podium and ending credits.
Post by: that Baby guy on July 01, 2009, 01:59:28 AM
Oh.  Well, there we go.  That makes sense.  Now I know why he stabbed me in the back, it wasn't a back stab.
Title: Re: Super Mario Kart Mafia: Results. Winner's podium and ending credits.
Post by: Mop it up on July 01, 2009, 02:05:52 AM
And yet I was so convinced Stevey was Red that I thought he photoshopped the screencap he showed me.
Title: Re: Super Mario Kart Mafia: Results. Winner's podium and ending credits.
Post by: that Baby guy on July 01, 2009, 02:51:11 AM
Well, I'd like to point out that the key to this game is twofold for red/blue:

Make the first victory.  Do whatever it takes to win the first vote.  Manipulate it all, talk to everyone.  Scare whomever.  Whatever it takes to vote off the opposing team's color.

From there, don't be greedy.  Try to work with the other team to eliminate the "mafia" team, in this case, the green team.  Make connections, be straightforward.  The truth is, if your team captured the number advantage that first day, then as long as you can convince the opposing team to go after the mafia team with you, then you have little to fear.  At the end, you'll have greater numbers than the opposing team, and items, truthfully, should neutralize each other in the long run.

The wrench in my plans?  The item mix-up made me believe one enemy was a team member with absolute conviction, and secondly, I while I could get the blue to support me in going against the green, I wasn't able to convince my own team to.  For some reason, I was perceived as a threat to some red team members, despite not once doing anything threatening towards them.  (Seriously, I threatened stevey, Mop_it_up, Maxi, and Khush, and killed Stratos without a threat.  What was up with that, red team!?)
Title: Re: Super Mario Kart Mafia: Results. Winner's podium and ending credits.
Post by: Plugabugz on July 01, 2009, 06:21:21 AM
In the last big hurrah the pow block has been used.

The votes were randomised by someone else (Everyone was assigned numbers. Person chose numbers in any order, not knowing what they were for) The new votes stand as:

Drew votes for stevey.
GP votes for stevey.
Khush votes for vudu.
Vudu votes for Drew.
Stevey votes for Khush.

At two votes, stevey is dead. He was blue.

Final item uses (having been randomised by the POW):
Vudu's mystery box was used on GP (taking her to one point).
Drew's red shell was used on khush (killing him off). Green.
Stevey's banana was used on drewmg (taking him to one point).
Green Team's red shell went to vudu (killing him off). Red.

No red team players remain.
One green team player remains.
One blue player remains.

ITS A TIE! GP and DrewMG survived to the end.
Title: Re: Super Mario Kart Mafia: Results. Winner's podium and ending credits.
Post by: NWR_DrewMG on July 01, 2009, 08:07:06 AM
See, GoldenPhoenix, this was my plan all along!

;)
Title: Re: Super Mario Kart Mafia: Results. Winner's podium and ending credits.
Post by: stevey on July 01, 2009, 08:26:50 AM
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y267/n64/Blue-1.png)

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In the last big hurrah the pow block has been used.

The votes were randomised by someone else (Everyone was assigned numbers. Person chose numbers in any order, not knowing what they were for) The new votes stand as:

The ****? The pow was supposed to randomize items? Also there were 3 people near death not four! The green team can no longer win if everyone is not dead!

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Day 6(3red and 3blue)

At 5 votes, Daaaaman64 is dead. He was red. A Toyota Prius is no match for DAISY!
Theperm is now dead. He was hit with a red shell. He had a blue shell when he died. He was blue.
Dasmos is now dead. He was killed off when he died. Chances of Green winning went with him.

THE ENDGAME BEGINS!
The blue team is now in danger of losing the game. They cannot lose anyone else if they want to win.
The Green team cannot win in their current state.

 Also the win criteria for red was they had to remove half the players of blue and green. But blue never was given that option since they had they same number of players and unlike red we had 3 blue on day 7 with only 2 red and green members. Where's our win!
Title: Re: Super Mario Kart Mafia: Results. Winner's podium and ending credits.
Post by: NWR_DrewMG on July 01, 2009, 08:29:37 AM
Hmm, yeah that is a bit suspect.  I just noticed that GP also had 2 points, but Plugabugz did say that 4 out of 5 players were near death.  No wonder Khush thought I was lying when I told him I had 2 points.
Title: Re: Super Mario Kart Mafia: Results. Winner's podium and ending credits.
Post by: BeautifulShy on July 01, 2009, 09:43:57 AM
Heh a tie. Wow has that ever happened?
Title: Re: Super Mario Kart Mafia: Results. Winner's podium and ending credits.
Post by: BeautifulShy on July 01, 2009, 10:56:48 AM
Wow quiet a turnaround for Green and Blue teams.After I was voted out I thought it was over for Green Team.
After having 1 blue player voted out on the first day it was a uphill battle for blue.

Great game guys.
Title: Re: Super Mario Kart Mafia: Results. Winner's podium and ending credits.
Post by: RABicle on July 01, 2009, 02:29:21 PM
I wasn't able to convince my own team to.  For some reason, I was perceived as a threat to some red team members, despite not once doing anything threatening towards them.  (Seriously, I threatened stevey, Mop_it_up, Maxi, and Khush, and killed Stratos without a threat.  What was up with that, red team!?)
If you're not with us, you're against us. You should've just voted party line but no, you had to be a turncoat.


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The problem with mafia is that usually I have to send out a bunch of aplogis over PM at the end of each game.
Title: Re: Super Mario Kart Mafia: Results. Winner's podium and ending credits.
Post by: vudu on July 01, 2009, 02:46:08 PM
Why does GP win, too?  She votes for Drew, Drew votes for her.  No one dies.  Tonight Drew attacks GP with an item.  GP is defenseless.  Drew wins.

I wouldn't go so far as to say GP was voted out. I thought Vudu might do something like that and I was disappointed to see that he did considering I've given him and Red team the chance to win.

It was my only chance of winning, and you know this.  If I voted out Stevey and you took out Drew I would have still lost the game because you out-numbered me.  If you had attacked Drew last night (like you told me you were going to) I would have won.  Oh well, no use crying over spilled milk.

I just want to say I really don't like this game model.  Too much is left up to chance and blind luck.  I much prefer straight forward mafia.

Also, I really am starting to get annoyed by the people in the dead thread.  I feel like they're talking too much and hurting the players who are still alive.  I know Khush saw that I made the last-minute vote switch last night, but if he had missed it he certainly wouldn't have missed the fact that people in the dead thread were announcing it to the world.

My hope was that he wouldn't have used the POW block last night since he thought stevey was going to be voted out.  Khush told me that he was going to attack Drew with the red shell.  My plan was to attack stevey with a mystery box (since his star would have run out).  Stevey and Drew agreed to attack Khush if I made the last-minute vote change to GP.  Since everyone else would have been dead (maybe; not sure how the item priorities work in this situation) I would have won.

Minor gripe:  It sucks when you can't ask anyone a question about how items work because the host lives halfway around the world and isn't around and the mod is the guy you're trying to double-cross.  I wish items were explained better in the rules thread.
Title: Re: Super Mario Kart Mafia: Results. Winner's podium and ending credits.
Post by: NWR_DrewMG on July 01, 2009, 02:53:54 PM
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Stevey and Drew agreed to attack Khush if I made the last-minute vote change to GP.

I kept my word, even if there's no evidence of it.
Title: Re: Super Mario Kart Mafia: Results. Winner's podium and ending credits.
Post by: Khushrenada on July 01, 2009, 03:03:15 PM
Hold up! There seem to be some flaws here and I'm getting tired of the mistakes. To quote your very first message to the green team:

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POW - Randomises all votes and item usage. Except Green Team.

I take that to mean that our votes and items will not be randomized. Yet, my vote was changed and my red shell last night was changed from its target. Here is my actions from last night:

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Green Team Strike Force Action:
Green Team sends our final Red Shell against DrewMG
Green Team activates the POW block and relies on the fickle fate of fortune to hopefully strike Vudu with a weapon.

So, it should be Drew that gets the Red shell, not Vudu.

Even worse is the faulty voting information. At the end of Day 7 having voted out RABicle, I sent you and GP this message:

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And so we stand at the threshold of the end. Tomorrow will mean victory for one team but which one? There is still too many unknown factors at this point. If my information is correct, as of right now the points on the remaining people are:

Stevey - 1 point
Mop_It_Up - 1 point
DrewMG - 2 point

Vudu - 2 points

Golden Phoenix - 2 points
Khushrenada - 1 point

Based on that information, my suggestion for tomorrow was this:

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We attack DrewMG tomorrow. For green and glory.

However, when Day 8 started, you stated the following:

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Red Team is nearly completely dead. Four players are near death. Five players remaining.

How can four people be near death if 2 have them have 2 points? Why does 1 person's 2 points make them closer to death than another person's 2 points? The worse thing is, I let that information change my vote.

Again, after seeing it, I sent this message to you and GP:

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Congratulations team. We have done the impossible. Given ourselves the chance to win. And man, are we in good position. It has all paid off. Since we know GP has not been hit, all other players have one point. Therefore, our goal is to vote together one blue member out. We shall use our red shell to snipe another player and hope the POW block takes out the last remaining player. With 2 votes on blue, the randomizing of the votes should keep the vote the same. The only question is, who should we attack?

It was at that point that I decided to vote stevey for the day instead of DrewMG since I felt a bit more for trusting me earlier with his team info. I figured it didn't matter which Blue I attacked, they both had 1 point. If at some point, you had corrected your error, the vote would have stayed on DrewMG. I knew on Day 7 that he had used the oil slick and had 2 points. Gah!

Do you have any explantion for these errors? When you are getting all these messages and I'm using the information that I'm getting from you, do you at any point realize they're making a mistake because of the info I've given them? Maybe I should correct that?
Title: Re: Super Mario Kart Mafia: Results. Winner's podium and ending credits.
Post by: vudu on July 01, 2009, 03:23:53 PM
So, it should be Drew that gets the Red shell, not Vudu.

Interesting ....

Also worth noting is that your votes were randomized, too.  It just so happened that stevey lost the randomized vote, too.

How can four people be near death if 2 have them have 2 points? Why does 1 person's 2 points make them closer to death than another person's 2 points? The worse thing is, I let that information change my vote.

I can answer that one.  I lied about my points.  I only had 1 point at the time.  But since my item was a mystery box (which I could not use to defend myself) I didn't want you to know that one strike and I was kaput.
Title: Re: Super Mario Kart Mafia: Results. Winner's podium and ending credits.
Post by: Plugabugz on July 01, 2009, 04:09:51 PM
I will redo everything if nobody minds, fixing this won't take long.

Part of the problem comes from repeatedly having to change things from people changing their mind about what to do with who - I go through PM's in chronological order, meaning having to backtrack takes time as i lose my train of thought going forward. Second part comes from the system i'm using to note everything has two seperate descriptions for things. Thirdly, having a full-time 1yr old nephew since i got back from NYC is incredibly distracting to concentrate on something as complex as this.

Even though I have scribbled ideas for Mario Kart Mafia 64, I don't feel up to the task of hosting another mafia for a long while.
Title: Re: Super Mario Kart Mafia: Results. Winner's podium and ending credits.
Post by: Plugabugz on July 01, 2009, 04:11:59 PM
..and now my flash drive (containing everything) just started to disintegrate. *sigh*
Title: Re: Super Mario Kart Mafia: Results. Winner's podium and ending credits.
Post by: Plugabugz on July 01, 2009, 05:06:19 PM
The POW block was used. At two votes, stevey is dead. He is blue.

The POW randomised everything except green votes and actions.
Drew was hit with a red shell and mystery box, killing him. He is blue.
GP was hit with a red shell, losing one point.

Only GP, Khush and Vudu remain. Green victory.
Title: Re: Super Mario Kart Mafia: Results. Winner's podium and ending credits.
Post by: Khushrenada on July 01, 2009, 05:07:10 PM
So, it should be Drew that gets the Red shell, not Vudu.

Interesting ....

Also worth noting is that your votes were randomized, too.  It just so happened that stevey lost the randomized vote, too.

How can four people be near death if 2 have them have 2 points? Why does 1 person's 2 points make them closer to death than another person's 2 points? The worse thing is, I let that information change my vote.

I can answer that one.  I lied about my points.  I only had 1 point at the time.  But since my item was a mystery box (which I could not use to defend myself) I didn't want you to know that one strike and I was kaput.

I thought you might have been lying about your points but that's why I depended on Plugabugz daily tally of who was near death to straighten things out. Unfortunately, that failed me as well.
Title: Re: Super Mario Kart Mafia: Results. Winner's podium and ending credits.
Post by: stevey on July 01, 2009, 05:20:43 PM
The POW block was used. At two votes, stevey is dead. He is blue.

The POW randomised everything except green votes and actions.
Drew was hit with a red shell and mystery box, killing him. He is blue.
GP was hit with a red shell, losing one point.

Only GP, Khush and Vudu remain. Green victory.

You can't do that! You never said it randomizes votes in the sign up thread and latter deleted it. Two, you didn't redo the random vote. Three, you never answer why blue didn't win on day 7.


I call shenanigans!
Title: Re: Super Mario Kart Mafia: Results. Winner's podium and ending credits.
Post by: Plugabugz on July 01, 2009, 05:22:48 PM
*bangs head on desk*
Title: Re: Super Mario Kart Mafia: Results. Winner's podium and ending credits.
Post by: stevey on July 01, 2009, 05:34:01 PM
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If we find ourselves in a position where we have an even number of red/blue players that are below the threshold, ..
[rule change]

If for some reason several groups wind up below the threshold all at once, then i will open the game up to eliminating the other team(s) entirely.


.. Green is free to do as they please at this point, as they are unable to win.

Day7
Blue 60% 5 points
Red 40% 2 points
Green 50% 3 points

We had player and point advantages!
Title: Re: Super Mario Kart Mafia: Results. Winner's podium and ending credits.
Post by: vudu on July 01, 2009, 05:34:58 PM
MULLIGAN!!  LETS REDO THE WHOLE GAME.
Title: Re: Super Mario Kart Mafia: Results. Winner's podium and ending credits.
Post by: Plugabugz on July 01, 2009, 05:37:22 PM
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If we find ourselves in a position where we have an even number of red/blue players that are below the threshold, ..[rule change].. Green is free to do as they please at this point, as they are unable to win.

Day7
Blue 60% 5 points
Red 40% 2 points
Green 50% 3 points

We had player and point advantages!

I carried it on as some people wished to continue rather than finish there. As it stands currently there is no way vudu can win against 2 other players on the same team.
Title: Re: Super Mario Kart Mafia: Results. Winner's podium and ending credits.
Post by: stevey on July 01, 2009, 05:39:56 PM
But you said it was for if everyone was below the 50% mark.

Blue wasn't!
Title: Re: Super Mario Kart Mafia: Results. Winner's podium and ending credits.
Post by: that Baby guy on July 01, 2009, 05:47:39 PM
Stevey, do you really want to argue that the game was unfair toward your disadvantage.  You had essentially a red team free pass.  Let it go, we'll play another game, and we'll see what happens.

It's your own fault for killing me instead of Khush, anyways.  I knew GP was the next most likely green player at that point, for what it's worth.
Title: Re: Super Mario Kart Mafia: Results. Winner's podium and ending credits.
Post by: Mop it up on July 01, 2009, 09:06:06 PM
Hooray GoldenPhoenix! I knew you could do it!

Though this might mean I owe one to DrewMG, unfortunately...

Stevey is just upset because he feels he played a good game and he still didn't win. I can understand that because I know that feeling. It happens a lot in the real Mario Kart.

Also, I really am starting to get annoyed by the people in the dead thread.  I feel like they're talking too much and hurting the players who are still alive.  I know Khush saw that I made the last-minute vote switch last night, but if he had missed it he certainly wouldn't have missed the fact that people in the dead thread were announcing it to the world.
I'd just like to say that I wouldn't have even noticed that if somebody else hadn't pointed it out. But you're right, I do need to be more careful about what I say.
Title: Re: Super Mario Kart Mafia: Results. Winner's podium and ending credits.
Post by: Dasmos on July 02, 2009, 01:16:05 AM
what is happening here?
Title: Re: Super Mario Kart Mafia: Results. Winner's podium and ending credits.
Post by: Mop it up on July 02, 2009, 01:19:53 AM
There was a little confusion over the rules but that's over now.
All you need to know is, there were three players still alive today.

Khushrenada = Green
GoldenPhoenix = Green
Vudu = Red

And so Green wins by majority.


Title: Re: Super Mario Kart Mafia: Results. Winner's podium and ending credits.
Post by: Dasmos on July 02, 2009, 05:34:56 AM
Yeah, but I don't understand how we (green) won when Pluga said it was impossible after I had died.
Title: Re: Super Mario Kart Mafia: Results. Winner's podium and ending credits.
Post by: Stratos on July 02, 2009, 08:27:24 AM
Poor Plugabugz. Try not to be too harsh on him. He feels like crap as it is already.

Hey, I appreciate the work you did to pull off this game, Plugz :)
Title: Re: Super Mario Kart Mafia: Results. Winner's podium and ending credits.
Post by: Mop it up on July 02, 2009, 06:30:09 PM
Yeah, but I don't understand how we (green) won when Pluga said it was impossible after I had died.
The original win conditions involved were that only half of a team would need to be eliminated in order for the other to win. But as things turned out, every team reached half or less on the same day. So Plugabugz decided that the game would continue until one team was completely eliminated. Because of this rule change, the Green team was able to win if they became the last one standing.

Or something like that.
Title: Re: Super Mario Kart Mafia: Results. Winner's podium and ending credits.
Post by: stevey on July 02, 2009, 08:19:56 PM
Yeah, but I don't understand how we (green) won when Pluga said it was impossible after I had died.
The original win conditions involved were that only half of a team would need to be eliminated in order for the other to win. But as things turned out, every team reached half or less on the same day. So Plugabugz decided that the game would continue until one team was completely eliminated. [/color]Because of this rule change, the Green team was able to win if they became the last one standing.

Or something like that.

Blue didn't!
Title: Re: Super Mario Kart Mafia: Results. Winner's podium and ending credits.
Post by: Mop it up on July 02, 2009, 08:42:46 PM
You sure about that?

In any case, the game was too close to call with so many players remaining. It didn't seem fair to end the game there, and these results show that to be true. The whole "eliminate half of a team" thing was dubious from the beginning.
Title: Re: Super Mario Kart Mafia: Results. Winner's podium and ending credits.
Post by: Khushrenada on July 02, 2009, 11:32:38 PM
Yeah, but I don't understand how we (green) won when Pluga said it was impossible after I had died.
The original win conditions involved were that only half of a team would need to be eliminated in order for the other to win. But as things turned out, every team reached half or less on the same day. So Plugabugz decided that the game would continue until one team was completely eliminated. [/color]Because of this rule change, the Green team was able to win if they became the last one standing.

Or something like that.

Blue didn't!

Oh stevey. You whine and fuss now that you've lost but it's too late to complain. If you argued the game should be over back when you had this advantage of 2 v 2 v 3, you'd have had a legitimate point. But you didn't complain about it then and you planned on eliminating the whole red team yourself. When it was announced that we would be playing to eliminate teams, you never complained then either. If you didn't like it, you should have said something then. Waiting until you have lost is poor sportsmanship and makes you look hypocritical.
Title: Re: Super Mario Kart Mafia: Results. Winner's podium and ending credits.
Post by: stevey on July 03, 2009, 08:43:24 AM
Yeah, but I don't understand how we (green) won when Pluga said it was impossible after I had died.
The original win conditions involved were that only half of a team would need to be eliminated in order for the other to win. But as things turned out, every team reached half or less on the same day. So Plugabugz decided that the game would continue until one team was completely eliminated. [/color]Because of this rule change, the Green team was able to win if they became the last one standing.

Or something like that.

Blue didn't!

Oh stevey. You whine and fuss now that you've lost but it's too late to complain. If you argued the game should be over back when you had this advantage of 2 v 2 v 3, you'd have had a legitimate point. But you didn't complain about it then and you planned on eliminating the whole red team yourself. When it was announced that we would be playing to eliminate teams, you never complained then either. If you didn't like it, you should have said something then. Waiting until you have lost is poor sportsmanship and makes you look hypocritical.

My laptop broke that day, I didn't have time to change my move or to point it out...
Title: Re: Super Mario Kart Mafia: Results. Winner's podium and ending credits.
Post by: Spak-Spang on July 04, 2009, 09:16:49 PM
I loved this mafia.  I read all the results, not necessarily the pages.  What was interesting is that you never know what is going to happen in these type of mafias even after the vote ends. 

Other mafia's you are waiting to see who was voted out...almost always a townie and then who the mafia killed.  This game crazy things happened. 

I can understand Plugabugz stress in trying to correct everything, which is why I had a limit the first action stays.  It was also interesting how the game switched very quickly, and Red team quickly fell to last place.  Amazing.

Good fun. 


Title: Re: Super Mario Kart Mafia: Results. Winner's podium and ending credits.
Post by: Plugabugz on July 05, 2009, 09:57:33 AM
I enjoyed it, but it got very very difficult towards the end. One person even complained i wasn't replying to their PM's, when at the time i was in bed.
Title: Re: Super Mario Kart Mafia: Results. Winner's podium and ending credits.
Post by: vudu on July 05, 2009, 11:34:56 AM
One person even complained i wasn't replying to their PM's, when at the time i was in bed.

That was me.  And I stand by it.  It sucks that not only did you never explain how the Star works but you're not around to answer any questions about it.

What am I supposed to do?  PM Khush?  Hey buddy, I'm thinking about screwing you over.  Can you explain how the Star works so I know what to do?
Title: Re: Super Mario Kart Mafia: Results. Winner's podium and ending credits.
Post by: Plugabugz on July 05, 2009, 12:47:56 PM
One person even complained i wasn't replying to their PM's, when at the time i was in bed.

That was me.  And I stand by it.  It sucks that not only did you never explain how the Star works but you're not around to answer any questions about it.

What am I supposed to do?  PM Khush?  Hey buddy, I'm thinking about screwing you over.  Can you explain how the Star works so I know what to do?

I did my best to answer everyone's PM's as fast as i saw them, and in a couple cases i got up at 6 & 8AM GMT to deal with them to stop the backlog getting too big.
Title: Re: Super Mario Kart Mafia: Results. Winner's podium and ending credits.
Post by: Spak-Spang on July 05, 2009, 08:02:43 PM
True, until you host a game...and a game with different rules you have no idea what it is like.  (Vudu you may have hosted a game and I just don't know it.)

But you create a single new role, you can create confusion and lots of questions.  You try to design a game, but sometimes you can't foresee every outcome.  Like everyone losing 50% of their team.  Personally, I think that win condition should of only been opened up once one of the 3 teams was completely eliminated anyway...so perhaps the original win condition was flawed and Plugz actually corrected it.

As for asking about an item...if you knew someone on your team you could have asked, or if you didn't get the answer in time, you could have just made an educated guess.

I only bring this up because I really enjoy the special different games of mafia.  However, almost every game with a new role or new twist on mafia brings about confusion and protest and then people don't play those games as much. 

I do believe we need a good solid run of some traditional mafia games soon though.  With Mario Paintball and Mario Kart mafia back to back, a nice traditional game would be great.

Title: Re: Super Mario Kart Mafia: Results. Winner's podium and ending credits.
Post by: BeautifulShy on July 05, 2009, 08:48:42 PM
One person even complained i wasn't replying to their PM's, when at the time i was in bed.

That was me.  And I stand by it.  It sucks that not only did you never explain how the Star works but you're not around to answer any questions about it.

What am I supposed to do?  PM Khush?  Hey buddy, I'm thinking about screwing you over.  Can you explain how the Star works so I know what to do?
I want to comment on the item questions. This game was based on the 1st Mario Kart Mafia.I don't think there was any new items except for the green team. You guys could have looked in the Mafia Hall of Fame thread and looked for the previous game.
Title: Re: Super Mario Kart Mafia: Results. Winner's podium and ending credits.
Post by: Khushrenada on July 05, 2009, 09:34:25 PM
One person even complained i wasn't replying to their PM's, when at the time i was in bed.

That was me.  And I stand by it.  It sucks that not only did you never explain how the Star works but you're not around to answer any questions about it.

What am I supposed to do?  PM Khush?  Hey buddy, I'm thinking about screwing you over.  Can you explain how the Star works so I know what to do?

Actually, I believe you did do that since you asked me how the POW block works. Frankly, I'm surprised you did forget about items so much since you were green last time and complained about your items.

I know there were a couple times as well that I was unsure about something and I sent Plugabugz a message after he had already gone to bed. I didn't always have an answer either but I figured Plugabugz would correct things when he got back on the next day. He'd take his time before posting results.
Title: Re: Super Mario Kart Mafia: Results. Winner's podium and ending credits.
Post by: vudu on July 05, 2009, 10:05:19 PM
Different game, different rules.  Plugabugz never said how the POW block works and he failed to mention the Star item at all. 
Title: Re: Super Mario Kart Mafia: Results. Winner's podium and ending credits.
Post by: BeautifulShy on July 05, 2009, 10:20:40 PM
Just checked the sign up thread. There isn't a description of what the star does but it is mentioned as a way to protect against certain items via other items descriptions.
Title: Re: Super Mario Kart Mafia: Results. Winner's podium and ending credits.
Post by: NWR_DrewMG on July 05, 2009, 11:01:34 PM
I'm not pleased at how this game ended either, I think that the changes in rules weren't quite communicated well enough as the game went on, but I'm done worrying about it.  It's not like I did enough scheming and plotting to deserve a partial win anyways.  It would have been nice, but let's just move on and get to the next game.